Are the NZ police for real?

[Katman]

http://www.3news.co.nz/IPCA-Police-acted-unlawfully-with-excessive-force/tabid/423/articleID/317631/Default.aspx

Their actions can be determined as excessive and illegal (by their own watchdog) and they don't even have the balls to apologise for it.

[Katman]

Don't worry though, Scumdog will be along soon to tell us how much the guy deserved it.

[scumdog]

The guy derserved it - lots

[Katman]

The guy derserved it - lots

I spelled the word for you.

You didn't even have to look it up.

[scumdog]

I spelled the word for you.

You didn't even have to look it up.

I'm from the deep south.

We throw the letter 'r' around with gay abandon, use it in words that dorn't even have an r.:bleh:

[unstuck]

They included police forcing entry into the house, police using batons to strike people and forcibly removing partygoers by pushing, shoving and manhandling them.



They were called demolition parties back in the day.:headbang::headbang:

[george formby]

After witnessing first hand the almost fatal damage done to police officers & police adopting a very heavy hand to ensure they got home to their families in one piece during the miners strike in the UK I will reserve judgement. I also witnessed some Neanderthal thugs in uniform who would happily have worked for Idi Amin, same on the picket line, though.
Now the judgement of a watchdog, the consequences & potential punishment is a different question. We pay, we should get value.

[unstuck]

I'm from the deep south.



Pfft..deep south. Bloody Northeners.:devil2:

[Katman]

We throw the letter 'r' around with gay abandon.......

I suppose it goes with the Village People moustache.

[Laava]

I'm from the deep south.

We throw the letter 'r' around with gay abandon, use it in words that dorn't even have an r.:bleh:

http://thesassylibrarian.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/billy-redden-kid-pic1.jpg

[husaberg]

Every organisation has a few bad eggs so i don't think its entirely fair to say the whole force should carry the can.
I have friends that are in the police force and they are thoroughly decent honest hard working people.
At least the NZ police haven't given this guy a medal yet (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3611447), like the policeman who beat up the pensioner in Dunollie for no good reason (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3611451) a few years ago. I think they eventually did boot him out when the truth came out.

[george formby]

I suppose it goes with the Village People moustache.

Do we in Un Zud have an equivalent of the SPG? In my experience it's half a dozen coppers with steel around the heels & toes of their boots, fingerless fiberglass knuckled gloves, long, black coats & so big they have to duck & go sideways through a normal doorway, sans helmet.
Two of them could shut up a bar full of miners. The miners knew the rest where waiting outside in an armoured paddy wagon if somebody mouthed off. K'in scary.

[Katman]

Every organisation has a few bad eggs so i don't think its entirely fair to say the whole force should carry the can.


When a high ranking police officer claims there's no grounds for an apology then he's sure as fuck sticking the can on the whole force.

[caseye]

Slow day Katman?


Geez KM, so tell me, the low lifes next door have a party, their "friends"(unknown party yobo's from fuckbook and Twit fuck) climb the fence piss on your dog, rape your daughters and generally do as they like, because here in NZ that sort of behaviour has become the norm.
Now, the Police arrive in the form of a TPU ( hard barstards) squad, their job?stop this rabble.
They do the usual, ask the owner to tone it down, get told "F Off Pig"! Because again here in NZ that is also acceptable ( a Jud, a fuckwit) decided sometime ago that it was OK to call Police names and swear at them,or if you like spit in their face, even if you do have HEP C or rigafucking mortis and that this sort of behaviour was no longer grounds for arrest, as it STILL is in any other country similar to ours.
Now then, with their tiny little brains at half mast because, they're, to a man ( cuse the pun) pissed to beat the band these innocent party goers start heckling a rather formidable group of well trained Police Officers, someone gets hit , it's all on.
Tell me, do you condone this sort of action by drunk, out of control, unresponsive, aggressive, uncaring, unthinking thugs who have terrorised a neighbourhood for hours?
Just a yes or no will do.
If in the course of the action instigated by these partygoers some "innocent" gets their head opened up by a fence batten that's an accident, but because the police are there and action has begun, if it's a Police baton it's somehow an incident that MUST have been avoidable and the Police Constable causing the harm should be vilified and persucuted to the ends of the earth??
I appreciate a good stir as much as the next KB'er, but I won't sit back and let anyone start preaching about how bad our Police are when they're totally ignoring the circumstance surrounding the situation to simply have a go at our Police.
They are all we have between being able to walk our streets (in most places this only applies during the day now) or not and they are the only ones willing to go into hostile environments and protect ordinary citizens.
They certainly don't get paid enough to do this, but they do it anyway, some of them ( a small number) take advantage of their uniform/position for their own ends, some fight for the thrill of it but generally they're the same as you and me, people with a passion to help, protect and serve.
To start this sort of thread with or without tongue in cheek is your perogative (a right all citizens have) free speech, OK not all of us have it anymore, ya can't call a Wog a dago anymore, might offend someone. ANYONE, doesn't matter, you can't do it,The Law(Justice System,Parliamentary law makers, not the Police!) says you will get arrested for mind fucking or something equally as perverse.
Butt you can still call a Policeman/woman a F'''ing C..t! and nothing happens to you because we let a judicial official throw away laws that worked, laws that were rarely used, but which could be if and when a Police officer decided it was appropriate to do so.You know, used their initiative.
Cripes what am I saying, we want them do to that, anymore?
I do and personally if they're well trained members of Police they should be constantly be encouraged to do so and that means standing behind them when there is a real shit fight and this is a bullshit charge brought by rich mummies and daddies because their little shit bags were where they shouldn't have been when they got involved in a big boys game of tag.
Just my opinion of course.

[Katman]

Do we in Un Zud have an equivalent of the SPG? In my experience it's half a dozen coppers with steel around the heels & toes of their boots, fingerless fiberglass knuckled gloves, long, black coats & so big they have to duck & go sideways through a normal doorway, sans helmet.
Two of them could shut up a bar full of miners. The miners knew the rest where waiting outside in an armoured paddy wagon if somebody mouthed off. K'in scary.

Dude, I was at parties that were shut down by the Red Squad.

[Laava]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmoYelIq8qA&sns=em

[husaberg]

When a high ranking police officer claims there's no grounds for an apology then he's sure as fuck sticking the can on the whole force.

You answered it yourself when "A"

Look i have been at parties and seen the whole mob mentality break out i have also seen what i considered excessive force used by the blue boys but like i said a few bad eggs is only to be expected.

I also have a friend who was a Prison Warden for over 10 years and is one of the nicest hardest working people i know.
She said the whole time she worked in the prison system, she never once met someone who actually admitted they were guilty..........
now what's the odds on that?

[jasonu]

Well that guy looks like a faggot and most probable deserved all the cops dished out.

[Tazz]

Well that guy looks like a faggot and most probable deserved all the cops dished out.

Just had to say this is the best post yet considering it is from a dude with a gun pointed at the camera for his avatar :clap::clap:

[nzspokes]

Seems to me the problem was a lack of force. If the Police need to resolve a situation like this then they need to hit it with overwhelming force. Party's of this nature are riots of a type so need to be dealt with in the same manor.

Also a displaced fracture of the C7 spinous process is benign to my understanding, which could be wrong as im not a doctor.

[Maha]

The guy derserved it - lots

:killingme well played.

[PrincessBandit]

In a mob or riot containment situation it must be pretty difficult to measure force required against restraint to minimise injury. While I hate to use the expression collateral damage it's no surprise that events like this happen. No one deserves a broken neck but the police see to be pretty much screwed whatever actions they take. I have no idea what part the guy with the broken neck played ie whether he was a passive bystander who happened to be in the wrong spot at the time of a baton swing or whether he was right in on the action. Maybe there is a lesson to be learnt about personal choices as to how and where and whom with to party? We all know there are some parties or "celebrations" that are more risky to attend than others...
Only the top cop who decided there was nothing to answer to can justify his reason for this; it is conceivable that he was counselled to do otherwise by other cops, as opposed to a blanket policy of denying culpability. They certainly have taken a tough line on other members of the force who have been found wanting.

[Swoop]

When a high ranking police officer claims there's no grounds for an apology then he's sure as fuck sticking the can on the whole force.
There has been recently (last couple of weeks) a call for a fully independant comissioner who reviews the police and prosecutions/appeals. I think this was in response to the Privy Council rulings recently.

The commentor stated that this was necessary to keep the public's perception AND TRUST of the entire police force.

The "independant" PCA is worthless and nothing more than a quango for the police.

[Zedder]

http://www.3news.co.nz/IPCA-Police-acted-unlawfully-with-excessive-force/tabid/423/articleID/317631/Default.aspx

Their actions can be determined as excessive and illegal (by their own watchdog) and they don't even have the balls to apologise for it.

My understanding is he only refused to confirm whether police would apologise and the subject would be explored in private with the injured guy. The cops have to consider the "complex issues surrounding this case" as well.

[Banditbandit]

I also have a friend who was a Prison Warden for over 10 years and is one of the nicest hardest working people i know.
She said the whole time she worked in the prison system, she never once met someone who actually admitted they were guilty..........
now what's the odds on that?

Yeah .... the cons all say they didn't do it .... none of the other cons believe them ... the only one I know that the cons believed didn't do it was Arthur Allan Thomas ...

[Asher]

I have been at parties where the cops have shown up, walked in and started smashing people over, young girls included, that's one sure fire way to piss off a lot of drunken people which to a reasonable person would be the last thing you want.

As far as I'm concerned this "few bad eggs" comment is bullshit. As long as the police keep quiet, dismiss blatant claims, have a very bias review authority and keep on protecting each other they are all equally accountable.

[Grubber]

I have been at parties where the cops have shown up, walked in and started smashing people over, young girls included, that's one sure fire way to piss off a lot of drunken people which to a reasonable person would be the last thing you want.

As far as I'm concerned this "few bad eggs" comment is bullshit. As long as the police keep quiet, dismiss blatant claims, have a very bias review authority and keep on protecting each other they are all equally accountable.

Yea this sounds feasible. I would imagine this would how they conduct themselves everyday. Tui!:tugger:

[Hoon]

Also a displaced fracture of the C7 spinous process is benign to my understanding, which could be wrong as im not a doctor.
Yeah only snapped off a brake lever in the scope of things. People hear "broken neck" and immediately think almost paralyzed when this fracture is considered stable (does not cause any injury to the spinal cord or nerves). Sounds to me like some loud mouth punk just took a good one to the neck.

[Maha]

Yeah only snapped off a brake lever in the scope of things. People hear "broken neck" and immediately think almost paralyzed when this fracture is considered stable (does not cause any injury to the spinal cord or nerves). Sounds to me like some loud mouth punk just took a good one to the neck.

Both he and his lawyer look and sound like drop kicks, they were on TV this morning, both had the most unconvincing argument/statements ever...lawyer has that lizard tounge thing going when not talking and couldn't eyeball the camera when he was talking. This happen in 09 right? Four years later and now he wants to make something of it?

[Katman]

Both he and his lawyer look and sound like drop kicks, they were on TV this morning, both had the most unconvincing argument/statements ever...lawyer has that lizard tounge thing going when not talking and couldn't eyeball the camera when he was talking. This happen in 09 right? Four years later and now he wants to make something of it?

So people who look and sound like drop kicks automatically deserve a beating with a police baton, do they? You must have been a fucking hopeless juror.

(And by the way, the IPCA report was only released yesterday).

[Asher]

Yeah only snapped off a brake lever in the scope of things. People hear "broken neck" and immediately think almost paralyzed when this fracture is considered stable (does not cause any injury to the spinal cord or nerves). Sounds to me like some loud mouth punk just took a good one to the neck.

Where would you coincider to be a more dangerous place to hit someone with a baton?

[scumdog]

Both he and his lawyer look and sound like drop kicks, they were on TV this morning, both had the most unconvincing argument/statements ever...lawyer has that lizard tounge thing going when not talking and couldn't eyeball the camera when he was talking. This happen in 09 right? Four years later and now he wants to make something of it?

Yeah well 2013 IS the Year of the Compensation Claims(tm)

(And the Chinese thought it was the Year of the Snake!!! pfft!)

[Maha]

So people who look and sound like drop kicks automatically deserve a beating with a police baton, do they?

You seem to have gotten away with up until now so no, not in all cases.

[Katman]

Yeah well 2013 IS the Year of the Compensation Claims(tm)


If you guys were a bit better at your job maybe there wouldn't be so many compensation claims.

[Zedder]

Yeah well 2013 IS the Year of the Compensation Claims(tm)

(And the Chinese thought it was the Year of the Snake!!! pfft!)

It could end up to be both types for Len Brown.

[Ender EnZed]

I have been at parties where the cops have shown up, walked in and started smashing people over...

As far as I'm concerned this "few bad eggs" comment is bullshit.

Were you by any chance blind fucking drunk yourself at these parties?

[scumdog]

If you guys were a bit better at your job maybe there wouldn't be so many compensation claims.

And if people behaved themselves blah...blah...blah..:rolleyes:

[Asher]

Were you by any chance blind fucking drunk yourself at these parties?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
I have never been one to get violent or angry drunk or sober.
Ive been at parties when cops have come in, turned the music off, told everyone to leave and stood on the road making sure people werent walking off with open bottles or drink driving. All of these times the parties have been shut down with little or no violence or incidences.

Like i have said i have also been at parties where cops come in swinging, pushing, shoving and hitting anyone within reach.
All that does is create an angry crowd, which is what you would think would be the last thing the police would want, and probably more importantly it creates a generation with contempt against the police, not the thing they would want when trying to work with the community.

[duckonin]

Trouble with the police force, they will take any piece of shit into the force they can. Most were shit bags in life but never had a conviction.
Yesteryear cops were a different ball game. nothing under Six foot tall and with some skills to match, in other words an education/life skills, very hard to obtain ,these come from the school of hard knocks.
Employing fucken woman/men 5' is a fucken joke, then they use them on the front line when in actual fact they should be writing out traffic tickets nothing more.
Now they have areas in this country where Chinese prevail Samoans, Maoris and other shit the system then matches the cops of ethnicity to match the majority. Trouble now looms ! Called racism !:facepalm: I have stood beside the odd country cop in time of real need,yep and I would again, these were decent people who could read what may happen if the wrong decision was made, this part is the life skills they had obtained through being travelled persons or just having been posting by themselves. Cops in town are lead by the smart arse in the cop station, who, (a) may of had more experience, or are just those that have the knack for wankers to follow. I have seen the best at work and the worst. Take my hat off to the best non racist, others can go to fucken hell for my dollar.
Cops handling big mobs or drunk cunts at parties need to have real good life skills, no need to back down but quickly summarise the potential of their actions, real easy. Most drunks can be bought onto your side by kidding them along just like a dog. Start snarling at them then the pack with them becomes aggressive, not good. there are ways to handle situations good or bad most by todays cops are handled badly. Pat a black cunt on the head tell him he is a good cunt had he will work for you, kick the prick and snarl at him, fuck me , now b real weary.

Cayseye said once on this forum he did not really like what I said, but I say to him "fuck you" but the post he made in this thread I agree with.

[scumdog]

Trouble with the police force, they will take any piece of shit into the force they can. Most were shit bags in life but never had a conviction.
Yesteryear cops were a different ball game. nothing under Six foot tall and with some skills to match, in other words an education/life skills, very hard to obtain ,these come from the school of hard knocks.
etc etc .

Reads like a post on the TradeMe forum...

[unstuck]

I got battened by a lady cop at the queen street riots for climbing a lamp post, fuckin good times. :Punk::Punk:

[Road kill]

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
I have never been one to get violent or angry drunk or sober.
Ive been at parties when cops have come in, turned the music off, told everyone to leave and stood on the road making sure people werent walking off with open bottles or drink driving. All of these times the parties have been shut down with little or no violence or incidences.

Like i have said i have also been at parties where cops come in swinging, pushing, shoving and hitting anyone within reach.
All that does is create an angry crowd, which is what you would think would be the last thing the police would want, and probably more importantly it creates a generation with contempt against the police, not the thing they would want when trying to work with the community.

A generation that hates the police is nothing new.

Fuckin' flat foots.

[BoristheBiter]

Trouble with the police force, they will take any piece of shit into the force they can. Most were shit bags in life but never had a conviction.
Yesteryear cops were a different ball game. nothing under Six foot tall and with some skills to match, in other words an education/life skills, very hard to obtain ,these come from the school of hard knocks.
Employing fucken woman/men 5' is a fucken joke, then they use them on the front line when in actual fact they should be writing out traffic tickets nothing more.
Now they have areas in this country where Chinese prevail Samoans, Maoris and other shit the system then matches the cops of ethnicity to match the majority. Trouble now looms ! Called racism !:facepalm: I have stood beside the odd country cop in time of real need,yep and I would again, these were decent people who could read what may happen if the wrong decision was made, this part is the life skills they had obtained through being travelled persons or just having been posting by themselves. Cops in town are lead by the smart arse in the cop station, who, (a) may of had more experience, or are just those that have the knack for wankers to follow. I have seen the best at work and the worst. Take my hat off to the best non racist, others can go to fucken hell for my dollar.
Cops handling big mobs or drunk cunts at parties need to have real good life skills, no need to back down but quickly summarise the potential of their actions, real easy. Most drunks can be bought onto your side by kidding them along just like a dog. Start snarling at them then the pack with them becomes aggressive, not good. there are ways to handle situations good or bad most by todays cops are handled badly. Pat a black cunt on the head tell him he is a good cunt had he will work for you, kick the prick and snarl at him, fuck me , now b real weary.

Cayseye said once on this forum he did not really like what I said, but I say to him "fuck you" but the post he made in this thread I agree with.

So what you are saying is all cops should be men, 6' and over and white.

[Zedder]

A generation that hates the police is nothing new.

Fuckin' flat foots.

Whole generations? Got any real data for that?

[Road kill]

I got battened by a lady cop at the queen street riots for climbing a lamp post, fuckin good times. :Punk::Punk:

I walked through the police line during the Queen st riot with my 6 year old daughter in my arms.

This copper had a helmet and a minto bar all set to smack me up the head,you could see an smell the fear on him,,,which was understandable I guess.

Then an older cop stopped him an let us walk through.

After that the cops rushed the crowd.

It was good to watch,about 20 cops rushed a group of 2000 an the 2000 all ran away.

[nzspokes]

Yeah only snapped off a brake lever in the scope of things. People hear "broken neck" and immediately think almost paralyzed when this fracture is considered stable (does not cause any injury to the spinal cord or nerves). Sounds to me like some loud mouth punk just took a good one to the neck.

They mention in the article he could have been paralyzed. :facepalm:

[nzspokes]

I have been at parties where the cops have shown up, walked in and started smashing people over, young girls included, that's one sure fire way to piss off a lot of drunken people which to a reasonable person would be the last thing you want.


Do you think it is reasonable to have partys that effect other members of the community to the degree they feel they need to call Police?

Whats the root cause here?

[unstuck]

Whats the root cause here?

Alcohol. Turning fuckwits into BIGGER fuckwits since ages ago. Ban the booze, free the weed.:devil2:

[nzspokes]

Alcohol.


Fair call.

[Akzle]

Whats the root cause here?

jews
. .

[unstuck]

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[Road kill]

Whole generations? Got any real data for that?

Anybody that's read about their past history of assaults and murders during NZ's early industrial actions and the history of our union developments would have damn good reason to hate and fear the Police.

When the chips are down it's always been about them and us,,,,if us are normal NZ citizens and them are the gov'ts bullyboy flunkys.

You want some data then look it up yourself,it's not hard to find and it's a black mark of shame on the whole country.

What's next,holding children in the gutter at gun point while terrorising the whole town ?
Yeah sorry,, that's already been done,,,you need some fucking data for that as well ?

[Maha]

The Police are generally pretty good, as are motorcyclists, because very rarely do you see any bikers in the wrong.

[Zedder]

Anybody that's read about their past history of assaults and murders during NZ's early industrial actions and the history of our union developments would have damn good reason to hate and fear the Police.

When the chips are down it's always been about them and us,,,,if us are normal NZ citizens and them are the gov'ts bullyboy flunkys.

You want some data then look it up yourself,it's not hard to find and it's a black mark of shame on the whole country.

What's next,holding children in the gutter at gun point while terrorising the whole town ?
Yeah sorry,, that's already been done,,,you need some fucking data for that as well ?

I was going to head out for a ride today but do you think it's safe out there? It sure sounds very scary with all that hate and fear going on.

And here I was thinking it was going to be a good day.

[ellipsis]

...everyone that shits on you is not necessarily your enemy...and everyone that pulls you out of the shit is not necessarily your friend...

[nzspokes]

I was going to head out for a ride today but do you think it's safe out there? It sure sounds very scary with all that hate and fear going on.

And here I was thinking it was going to be a good day.

Yeah its strange, ive not been attacked by the Police yet either.

[jellywrestler]

They mention in the article he could have been paralyzed. :facepalm:

he could have also stayed home and not been a public nuisance

[jellywrestler]

...everyone that shits on you is not necessarily your enemy...and everyone that pulls you out of the shit is not necessarily your friend...

that tgoes someway to explaining 'two girls one cup'...

[Hoon]

Where would you coincider to be a more dangerous place to hit someone with a baton?

Head and throat. But for dumb arses with no brain, just the throat.

[oldrider]

Yeah .... the cons all say they didn't do it .... none of the other cons believe them ... the only one I know that the cons believed didn't do it was Arthur Allan Thomas ...

True!

Unfortunately the first of a long long long growing list of others since then! :rolleyes:

[Zedder]

Yeah its strange, ive not been attacked by the Police yet either.

Maybe we're part of a generation that miraculously escaped the rampant police brutality that some people believe is out there.

Anyway, I've just got back from a ride north and have survived any form of government oppression (apart from on road costs) that I know of, or any other threats for that matter, although I did pass a herd of belligerent looking alpacas near Dairy Flat.

A great ride out and I'm looking forward to many more now I'm back in the country.

[SPman]

..... although I did pass a herd of belligerent looking alpacas near Dairy Flat.

Gotta watch out for those Alpacas....an angry Bull Alpaca is a fearsome animal .....true!

[Tazz]

Too right!

If something has never happened to you/in front of you, how could it have ever happened/be happening at all ;)

[SPman]

The Police are generally pretty good, as are motorcyclists, because very rarely do you see any bikers in the wrong.

sort of reminds me of Boris.....
I know this may wound some of the sensitive, limpid-eyed souls among you, but we are not one big happy motorcycling family. We are not brothers of the handlebars, and we are not some cheery fraternity of two-wheeled stallions rumbling down the highway of life.
A valid argument could be mounted that once, around the time that mastodons bristled with the spears of the Neanderthal hunters, we were indeed some kind of brotherhood. A weird commonality bound us together, and it was a time when the motorcycle called to only a chosen few.
Then what happened? Lots of things, actually. Not the least of which was the formation of various volunteer-based organisations that set themselves up as representatives of the whole. And, as is the case with all such creations, they invariably became peopled with committee-loving creatures who actually represented nothing but their own interests and views and liked nothing more than to attend meetings.
There was a push to make motorcycling socially acceptable and respectable.
There was drive to make motorcycling more accessible.
And as these insipid opinions began to gain traction with the policy makers and government myrmidons, so did it come to pass.
In a few short years, the very essence of motorcycling became diluted, neutered and to a great degree became some kind of sad imitation of what it once was.
And then it began to fragment, which was exactly what was always going to happen. The purity and truth and validity of riding became some idiotic scramble for broader social acceptance................................

.....................................a vast and very disparate group of 11,000-odd motorcyclist gathered in the space of two weeks. There were bone fide outlaws, commuters, HOG members, racers, scratchers, learners, tourers, dirt-riders, and crusty old bastards who had been riding since the Roman Empire marched its legions across the world.
And they had nothing at all in common.
Hell, they didn’t even like each other.
The motorcycle did not bind them with commonality!


Which is, of course why we all bitch at each other like querulous old Hyenas.......


http://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/democracy-sucks/

[Zedder]

Gotta watch out for those Alpacas....an angry Bull Alpaca is a fearsome animal .....true!

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I find myself inadvertantly in a field with one of them.

I've been working in WA over the last 5 years off and on and have had a few interesting encounters with wildlife.

Been attacked by a kangaroo once, the bloody things are vicious and I'd certainly not advise taking one on. Water buffalo are very dangerous as well and kill quite a few people. Also, I've had a few snake frights but all in all, still enjoy going there.

[Zedder]

Too right!

If something has never happened to you/in front of you, how could it have ever happened/be happening at all ;)

If something is supposedly as rampant as it's made out to be then it would have been experienced at some time.

[Tazz]

If something is supposedly as rampant as it's made out to be then it would have been experienced at some time.

Yeah I guess because you haven't heard much about it that's a fair call. I'll just go back to being sick with this rampant bird flu epidemic that is killing us all...;)

I hear your point, but I've come across people that shouldn't be cops, who most unfortunately are, and they can tend to be heavy handed. Bear in mind these dudes are pretty much running in and whacking over a bunch of kids when this sort of thing happens, takes a real man to do that (and no not all cops are bad/not suited to their job, but the ones that are should be held accountable)

[Katman]

Maybe we're part of a generation that miraculously escaped the rampant police brutality that some people believe is out there.


I don't think anyone's necessarily suggesting there's a problem with rampant police brutality.

The fact is though, there should be zero police brutality.

[husaberg]

I don't think anyone's necessarily suggesting there's a problem with rampant police brutality.

The fact is though, there should be zero police brutality.

Err shouldn't there also be no murders, no assaults and so forth as well then.
I am picking there is a lot more criminal offending that is gotten away with than there is actual cases of police brutality.

I also agree with you about whether there is an actual problem with rampant over zealous violence from the police.
They are likely far to busy filling the ticket quota:msn-wink:

[Akzle]

The Police are generally pretty good, as are motorcyclists, because very rarely do you see any bikers in the wrong.

have they changed your meds? Did you play with nuclear waste?
Your retard level is down, and your trulz level is up...

[Zedder]

I don't think anyone's necessarily suggesting there's a problem with rampant police brutality.

The fact is though, there should be zero police brutality.


Well, some people think there's enough of a problem with police brutality etc to do this: http://nzpca.co.nz/police-brutality-in-new-zealand/

[G4L4XY]

September 5, 2009.

4 years later wow

[unstuck]

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[craigdek]

Ok no comment. I have seen way worse where I come from.

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[scumdog]

have they changed your meds? Did you play with nuclear waste?
Your retard level is down, and your trulz level is up...

ALMOST a sensible reply. Almost.

[PrincessBandit]

Whats the root cause here?

nodrog?

10char

[Kickaha]

nodrog?
Everything is that cunts fault

[ellipsis]

Everything is that cunts fault


...no, not everything...some shit happened while he was elsewhere, shirley...