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LaggyGN
20th October 2013, 13:16
I was involved in an accident last week, where someone pulled in front of me on the motorway and knocked me off. I am made of steel and managed to walk away, but my poor GN125 (that I bought brand new in 2009) bit the dust. The guys insurance is going to take care of the repairs, but from the state of the bike they may choose to write it off. I'm guessing this will mean I get a payout of $1500, although any further guesses on what I may get are welcome.

I've been riding for 4 years now, and use it exclusively as a commuter. When looking at possible replacements, I'm not looking for something fast or flashy. I need something which can putt away for 15kms a day, will be cheap as hell on petrol and reliable as the old GN. I realise this may be consigning me to getting another GN, but I would like something a bit more sturdy if possible. The recent wind conditions blew me around a bit, and something a bit more heavy would be more comfortable. I was looking at a 250 bandit, but I'm concerned about fuel costs compared to the GN, and any reliability issues.

Does anyone have a good suggestion for any replacement bikes I should look at? Under 3 grand would be ideal.

nzspokes
20th October 2013, 13:17
Busa....





Come on somebody had to say it.

LaggyGN
20th October 2013, 13:21
Busa....

I don't think I could handle the downgrade in power.

awa355
20th October 2013, 13:27
Allmost any bike ( particularly with fairings ) will cost more than the GN to repair, and suffer damage every bit as easy.

A farm bike model is about the only thing I can think of that can be dropped and picked up again without fears of breaking a $100 lever or a $300 mirror.

No bike is assured of walking away from a gunfight with a cage.<_<

LaggyGN
20th October 2013, 13:31
Allmost any bike ( particularly with fairings ) will cost more than the GN to repair, and suffer damage every bit as easy.

A farm bike model is about the only thing I can think of that can be dropped and picked up again without fears of breaking a $100 lever or a $300 mirror.

No bike is assured of walking away from a gunfight with a cage.<_<

I should emphasise I'm not looking for a bike that is more sturdy as in can survive higher impacts. I just mean something which doesn't get blown around in the wind so easily.

Smifffy
20th October 2013, 13:37
That recent lot of wind conditions was exceptional. Have you had much trouble with wind outside of that in your 4 years? If not, I wouldn't worry about it too much. To make an appreciable difference wind wise you will need an appreciably bigger bike.

LaggyGN
20th October 2013, 13:43
That recent lot of wind conditions was exceptional. Have you had much trouble with wind outside of that in your 4 years? If not, I wouldn't worry about it too much. To make an appreciable difference wind wise you will need an appreciably bigger bike.

Nup, to be honest I didn't even really have any problems in the recent bout, it would be more an issue of being more comfortable. I assumed a 250 naked bike (like a bandit or similar) would be blown around less. But if that's not the case, then I suppose that's another tick in the box for buying another GN. Maybe I'll be riding them when I'm 60.

jafar
20th October 2013, 13:57
Go up to a vl 250 or similar ?? 15 km per day isn't much, you could use the cruiser on the weekends too ;)

Erelyes
20th October 2013, 14:26
To make an appreciable difference wind wise you will need an appreciably bigger bike.

Disagree. My Scorpio was pretty bad in the wind..... Ninja 250 is ten times more stable and not much bigger/heavier. I'd recommend something along the same lines lagwagon.

LaggyGN
20th October 2013, 14:34
Cheers for the recommendations. I was actually eyeing street bikes, if possible. Hornets, Bandits, SRX etc. Although don't know if something like that is obtainable for less than 3k which will still be reliable, even though I'm not going to be doing heavy mileage on it.

f2dz
21st October 2013, 09:18
Get a GN250 or a VTR250.

HenryDorsetCase
21st October 2013, 10:17
Cheers for the recommendations. I was actually eyeing street bikes, if possible. Hornets, Bandits, SRX etc. Although don't know if something like that is obtainable for less than 3k which will still be reliable, even though I'm not going to be doing heavy mileage on it.

buy that SRX400. Thank me later.

Banditbandit
21st October 2013, 11:29
buy that SRX400. Thank me later.

Yeah .. if you can find an SRX40 in your price range buy it ...

HenryDorsetCase
21st October 2013, 11:38
there was one on tardme or on here up till very recently.

superjackal
21st October 2013, 15:35
I used to get blown around a lot on my GN250, so wouldn't recommend that. No good in a headwind either. I went to an ER-5 but a GS500 is basically the same. There's heaps of choice for around $3000.....

husaberg
21st October 2013, 17:38
I was involved in an accident last week, where someone pulled in front of me on the motorway and knocked me off. I am made of steel and managed to walk away, but my poor GN125 (that I bought brand new in 2009) bit the dust. The guys insurance is going to take care of the repairs, but from the state of the bike they may choose to write it off. I'm guessing this will mean I get a payout of $1500, although any further guesses on what I may get are welcome.

I've been riding for 4 years now, and use it exclusively as a commuter. When looking at possible replacements, I'm not looking for something fast or flashy. I need something which can putt away for 15kms a day, will be cheap as hell on petrol and reliable as the old GN. I realise this may be consigning me to getting another GN, but I would like something a bit more sturdy if possible. The recent wind conditions blew me around a bit, and something a bit more heavy would be more comfortable. I was looking at a 250 bandit, but I'm concerned about fuel costs compared to the GN, and any reliability issues.

Does anyone have a good suggestion for any replacement bikes I should look at? Under 3 grand would be ideal.





I never thought I would say this, but I have become a paid up member of the GN125 fan club. Great bike, reputedly, a little down on power compared to the CBR150 that won but the GN is the sort of bike I like. Home made, fast, handles, well developed engine with some interesting ideas and in the race it went the distance. Kick gave me one of his spare clutches which I intend using in my new engine for the Beast.


288768
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=245230&d=1313915804
I am surprised Kikaha hasn't showed up here yet

For basic transport keep to a single or twin.

ducatilover
21st October 2013, 19:52
Kawasaki ER-5 or Suzuki GS500 are nice sensible and dependable bikes.

chasio
22nd October 2013, 11:08
Some good suggestions above for if it is written off.

Another possibility is to talk to the shop or assessor and find out whether the frame and forks are OK. If they are, it may just be written off due to having to use genuine Suzuki parts. If it is scratched and scraped but you can live with it and/or needs parts that can be replaced cheaply, you might ask them how much to buy it off them and just put it back on the road while you make your mind up.

Even if it is not written off, some of the above bikes would be very good replacements if you fancy a change ;)

BuzzardNZ
22nd October 2013, 11:37
Some good suggestions above for if it is written off.

Another possibility is to talk to the shop or assessor and find out whether the frame and forks are OK. If they are, it may just be written off due to having to use genuine Suzuki parts. If it is scratched and scraped but you can live with it and/or needs parts that can be replaced cheaply, you might ask them how much to buy it off them and just put it back on the road while you make your mind up.

Even if it is not written off, some of the above bikes would be very good replacements if you fancy a change ;)

+1 on this. I had an old GB400 written off. I went to the assessor and bought it off them for half of what they paid out. Still got a warrant, so apart from a few new scraps and dents, it was still my main method of transport.

LaggyGN
23rd October 2013, 18:59
Thanks guys, I might just do that actually. Only problem is 7 days later the insurance company has changed their mind. I had their final decision, but today I got a call saying 'sorry, the other person is disputing, so you'll have to wait again'. Sigh.

husaberg
23rd October 2013, 19:23
Avoid the GN250
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tigertim20
23rd October 2013, 19:28
Kawasaki ER-5 or Suzuki GS500 are nice sensible and dependable bikes.

these are good aptions, as is a VTR250 if you want smaller cc options.

ducatilover
23rd October 2013, 19:51
these are good aptions, as is a VTR250 if you want smaller cc options.

VTRs are brilliant. A mate just picked up a '99 for just under $2k :yes:

LaggyGN
23rd October 2013, 20:10
A VTR definitely is on my watchlist. I always thought they were quite expensive for Japanese bikes, but if you say you can get one for 2 grand then does sound tempting.

ducatilover
23rd October 2013, 20:56
A VTR definitely is on my watchlist. I always thought they were quite expensive for Japanese bikes, but if you say you can get one for 2 grand then does sound tempting.

It'd be a tatty one. But you can get 'em for reasonable coin. The v-twin are easy to live with and much nicer on the road than you GN125 would ever be.
If you're really set on the smaller bikes, why not a GPX250/EX250/ZZR250? good little bikes for relatively little money.
Don't worry about cost of fixing fairings, at their value they'll be written off if you hit a small pebble and scratch the muffler.

mossy1200
23rd October 2013, 21:36
Thanks guys, I might just do that actually. Only problem is 7 days later the insurance company has changed their mind. I had their final decision, but today I got a call saying 'sorry, the other person is disputing, so you'll have to wait again'. Sigh.

Yep. I got hit by a 4wheel drive speeding in the wet down a hill who slid across the road hitting me head on in my lane while I had managed to stop and drove over my convertible writing it off. He admitted being at fault then changed his mind later so my insurance company asked for an excess due to accident be neither parties fault.

What I have learnt is have a small injury so the police have to attend and will lay blame. No injury and they wont attend just tell you to contact insurance company.

LaggyGN
24th October 2013, 12:21
It'd be a tatty one. But you can get 'em for reasonable coin. The v-twin are easy to live with and much nicer on the road than you GN125 would ever be.
If you're really set on the smaller bikes, why not a GPX250/EX250/ZZR250? good little bikes for relatively little money.
Don't worry about cost of fixing fairings, at their value they'll be written off if you hit a small pebble and scratch the muffler.

I wouldn't mind spending up to 2500,3000 if it will get me a more reliable bike. Cosmetics don't matter to me, as long as it runs as reliably as you can expect. I wouldn't mind a sports bike, but with the riding I do I would prefer something a bit more upright. I'd love an SRX250 if they were easy to get. Bandit 250 is another option I'm looking at.


Yep. I got hit by a 4wheel drive speeding in the wet down a hill who slid across the road hitting me head on in my lane while I had managed to stop and drove over my convertible writing it off. He admitted being at fault then changed his mind later so my insurance company asked for an excess due to accident be neither parties fault.

What I have learnt is have a small injury so the police have to attend and will lay blame. No injury and they wont attend just tell you to contact insurance company.

Yep, with hindsight I should have got the police to take a look at my foot or something, which was bruised badly but completely fine now. At least they could have sorted out the official record there and then.

EDIT: Repair bill definitely beyond any economic value. Will definitely be buying a new bike. Hopefully insurance gets sorted out.

husaberg
24th October 2013, 14:27
I wouldn't mind spending up to 2500,3000 if it will get me a more reliable bike. Cosmetics don't matter to me, as long as it runs as reliably as you can expect. I wouldn't mind a sports bike, but with the riding I do I would prefer something a bit more upright. I'd love an SRX250 if they were easy to get. Bandit 250 is another option I'm looking at.


I was going to mention the SRX250 but i have never seen one in NZ or the Kawa near equivalent BR250?. i always liked the look of them if the CB250RS was anything to go by they would have sold alright i'd have thought.
Aussie had the 250 (V twin XV250 engined) cafe racer styled bike, can't remember what it was called but it always looked kinda nice

F5 Dave
24th October 2013, 16:17
yeah there were a few SRX around here when I was rider training, a mate used one for a bucket. A lass I knew had a BR250, but they are all old as the hills now. You really can't go past a later VTR250, (just watch the shock isn't leaking on an older one)...Hondalicious.

. . .hey, whos been at my logon?

LaggyGN
24th October 2013, 16:50
Yeah VTR's are tempting, especially with the lack of SRX's around. I wonder how a bandit 250 compares to a VTR. Not many people seem to be raving about bandits, might be a sign.

ducatilover
24th October 2013, 21:49
SRXs are neat, bit like the aforementioned BR250 and the Suzuki NZ250, all old and fucked now sadly
Yamaha did a real neat little bike, the SDR, I was in love with them but haven't seen one in years :no:

2.5-3 will get you a VTR.

sil3nt
25th October 2013, 08:43
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=654303711

Banditbandit
25th October 2013, 09:18
Kawasaki ER-5 or Suzuki GS500 are nice sensible and dependable bikes.

So why would anyone want one - surely sensible and dependable is not the point ...


Thanks guys, I might just do that actually. Only problem is 7 days later the insurance company has changed their mind. I had their final decision, but today I got a call saying 'sorry, the other person is disputing, so you'll have to wait again'. Sigh.

Tell them that's not your problem - they pay out to you then they dispute with the other party ...

I like what's been done to this ... but not the price


289047

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-650582314.htm

chasio
26th October 2013, 17:59
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=654303711

:niceone:

That makes me wonder why older GN's go for more.

tigertim20
27th October 2013, 15:33
:niceone:

That makes me wonder why older GN's go for more.

there are loads of them around, and most people know what a GN is, so when asked what a great learner bike is, they say oh, get a GN, despite the fact that there are loads of superior learner bikes out there.

ducatilover
28th October 2013, 18:28
So why would anyone want one - surely sensible and dependable is not the point ...






Can't all aspire to own crazy bikes like you mate ;)