Are these people high?

[Mike.Gayner]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=651336002&cc=61&pid=288142916&hbc=1&ct=link

A five year old, damaged, deregsitered 250 with 50,000km on the clock, and these idiots bid it up over $2,400?

And yet I see plenty of great gems (600+ as well as LAMS) for under $5,000. WTF is wrong with these people? Why is there even a market for 250's any more?

[koba]

Perhaps there is value in it outside your perception of the situation?

[unstuck]

Are these people high?

Who me?:confused:

[Mike.Gayner]

Perhaps there is value in it outside your perception of the situation?

I would love someone to explain it to me. Feel free to.

[tigertim20]

Perhaps there is value in it outside your perception of the situation?

given that he joined today and only has one post, Id say that might well be accurate.

for someone handy with the spanners that could be a reasonable price for that bike as a road bike or a race bike.

[Mike.Gayner]

given that he joined today and only has one post, Id say that might well be accurate.

Time on the forum = time on the bike? Got it, good logic.

[Madness]

I'll wager $5 and a medium-sized bag of home brand chips that the auction winner bought it to on-sell for a profit. Bunsen burner.

[Erelyes]

Time on the forum = time on the bike? Got it, good logic.

Ah, you'll fit right in, cunt.

Appears the frame is OK for that bike.... I guess that's a gamble the bidders are taking. Would be a good candidate for fixing up for sure.

Buy two bikes, one dropped on the left, one dropped on the right.... voila.

I've seen some fairly cool naked conversions that people mae out of the pre-07 shape after minor bins that broke fairings etc.

[Mike.Gayner]

Another auction, by the same seller that closed at the same time:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=651347390&cc=61&pid=288149606&hbc=1&ct=link

Here is a bike with infinitely more character, is less damaged and much more fixable. Sold for $520.

I get that someone probably bought that shitty Ninja to onsell, but after the cost of some sub-standard Chinese fairings, indicators, paint etc you'd be hard pressed to make a buck on it.

I don't understand the bike market sometimes.

[Madness]

Here is a bike with infinitely more character, is less damaged and much more fixable. Sold for $520.

I'm picking you're in the over-65 age group then?

[Mike.Gayner]

Incorrect.

[Katman]

Here is a bike with infinitely more character, is less damaged and much more fixable. Sold for $520.


Far out - that buyer was ripped off.

He could have bought a couple of ounces with that amount.

[spanner spinner]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=651336002&cc=61&pid=288142916&hbc=1&ct=link

A five year old, damaged, deregsitered 250 with 50,000km on the clock, and these idiots bid it up over $2,400?

And yet I see plenty of great gems (600+ as well as LAMS) for under $5,000. WTF is wrong with these people? Why is there even a market for 250's any more?

Nope not high just caught up by the have to win the auction mentality, some insurance companies now list all there write offs on trade me as they get much higher prices. Half the time with the price some people are willing to pay for a written off bike they have only ever seen in photos, add the repair cost and even repaired substandard level a good second hand bike would be cheaper.

[koba]

Another auction, by the same seller that closed at the same time:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=651347390&cc=61&pid=288149606&hbc=1&ct=link

Here is a bike with infinitely more character, is less damaged and much more fixable. Sold for $520.



Are you High!?!



I don't understand the bike market sometimes.

Correct.

[tigertim20]

Time on the forum = time on the bike? Got it, good logic.
not at all, but if you had spent a little time on the largest NZ motorcycling forum before making an ignorant comment about its value, you would have started to figure out what models are and are not popular, and what a reasonable price range for one might be.

Another auction, by the same seller that closed at the same time:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=651347390&cc=61&pid=288149606&hbc=1&ct=link

Here is a bike with infinitely more character, is less damaged and much more fixable. Sold for $520.

I get that someone probably bought that shitty Ninja to onsell, but after the cost of some sub-standard Chinese fairings, indicators, paint etc you'd be hard pressed to make a buck on it.

I don't understand the bike market sometimes.
good chance the person bought it to keep too. just because you consider it to have more character doesnt mean that it has higher value.

your last line is the only accurate thing you have said yet, you don't understand the bike market

[nzspokes]

So you didnt win it huh?

[Mike.Gayner]

Absolutely had no interest in bidding.

[nzspokes]

Talk about sad auctions, check out the chicken strip on this....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=651686212

[koba]

Look!

a VFR400!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-652503186.htm

Why is it that NC30's with similar KM's got for at least 3x the price?!?!?

[Mike.Gayner]

Look!

a VFR400!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-652503186.htm

Why is it that NC30's with similar KM's got for at least 3x the price?!?!?

Good find - I like to keep my eye on bikes that are out of favour, seeking a bargain. That VFR doesn't particularly tickle my fancy, but compared with a $4,000 CBR250 of the same vintage it looks fucking good.

I'm eyeing up a few VTR1000's - I love these bikes purely because they're so unpopular and therefore so cheap. Easily 30% cheaper than a very similar SV, but with a lot more personality IMO.

[Madness]

Good find - I like to keep my eye on bikes that are out of favour, seeking a bargain.

Thank me later.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-653071853.htm

[Mike.Gayner]

LOL wow look at the price - now THAT guy must be high.

[BigAl]

Another auction, by the same seller that closed at the same time:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=651347390&cc=61&pid=288149606&hbc=1&ct=link

Here is a bike with infinitely more character, is less damaged and much more fixable. Sold for $520.


I agree, $520 for that NV is a bargain even taking the risk as engine not running. Wouldn't take much to tidy up and on sell for a couple of thou.

[Vinz0r]

Sounds like you're a tight bastard who likes cheap/unpopular bikes because they're cheap and unpopular.
Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, but you shouldn't really rag on other peoples taste in bikes just because you don't agree with their justifications.
Step outside your subjective opinion bubble, your preferences and opinion on value don't dictate the market.

[BigAl]

Thank me later.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-653071853.htm

Awwww my eyes, my eyes........

[Mike.Gayner]

Sounds like you're a tight bastard who likes cheap/unpopular bikes because they're cheap and unpopular.
Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, but you shouldn't really rag on other peoples taste in bikes just because you don't agree with their justifications.
Step outside your subjective opinion bubble, your preferences and opinion on value don't dictate the market.

Sorry I didn't mean to offend your delicate feelings. My apologies to you, you special little snowflake.

[fastoyz]

Perhaps there is value in it outside your perception of the situation?

theres not actually, imo they went about $1400 over what they should have paid, a good example of this is the one that sold a few weeks ago, 2009, not de reg`d, 9K kms http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=646017259 I think this was a case of auction frenzy

[st00ji]

if you check out the winners other buyings and sellings, it seems he or she is probably a wrecker of some description. perhaps the bike is worth more as parts than as a going concern... cars have gone the same way in recent years.

[The Reibz]

Sorry I didn't mean to offend your delicate feelings. My apologies to you, you special little snowflake.

I think I'm beginning to like this guy

[Banditbandit]

Talk about sad auctions, check out the chicken strip on this....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=651686212

1 The tyres look very new .. maybe the owner just put on new tyres and rode the bike hme to take the photograph ... and as he says, he is currently riding it .. can can tell fuck all from chicekn strips ...

2 a GSXR thou with chicken strips like that? Shit - i'd buy it - shows the bike has not been too thrashed ...

And whaddarya .. some kind of trademe policeman or wannabe commentator .. ??? If people can get good money for bikes why shouldn't they - a bike is worth what someone wll pay for it - not what an owner or a wannabe think it's worth ..

[Banditbandit]

I think I'm beginning to like this guy


Just don't get too friendly ... he might want to show up on a Hyosung, park next to your delicate little 'busa and talk to you ..

[SMOKEU]

That still is way too much money for the bike. After re-registering it and fixing it up, you wouldn't be much better off than buying a road legal one that isn't fucked, and there's also the cost of time to fuck around with it and of course the risk of buying a bike that could have more damage.

[F5 Dave]

I think I'm beginning to like this guy
Yeah I gave him some rep for that, Nice Sassin'

Not much taste though, the NVs, well I borrowed one in the 90s while my bike was being fixed & had it for a month. I can report they have absolutely no character. Certainly was glad to have it & it was just fine as a bike to ride around on with no vices. I mean if someone offered you a go on theirs you wouldn't even look up.

At the end of the day people will pay what they are prepared to. I'd have to think they can't have done thier sums if they thought they were going to make any money unless they are doing the labour as a charitable entity to return bikes to the road.


and as for the Mantra, well they look as bad in real life. I think I'd rather have a first Multistrada, except they are hideous, maybe I'd rather have the Mantra, no the Multistrada, no Syphilis.

[Vinz0r]

Sorry I didn't mean to offend your delicate feelings. My apologies to you, you special little snowflake.

Oo that burns.. I think I'm going to melt.

[Big Dave]

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[Big Dave]

I think I'm beginning to like this guy

Get a room.

[Old Steve]

Why is there even a market for 250's any more?

I think a 250 makes a pretty good learner bike, as well as a great commuter/around town bike. May not tick all the items on the rabid litre sports bike riders list, but there are some learner riders who will feel much more comfortable on a lighter bike, maybe they don't do much road riding where there's a need to pass at the open speed limit. I'm thankful I did 20 months on a 250 learner cruiser.

[avgas]

Lots of sexual tension in this thread.

[Maha]

Lots of sexual tension in this thread.

..agreed, just needs one to get the juices flowing and rest go hard (pun intended)

[F5 Dave]

I don’t see any.

There’s plenty of guys that I like, but I certainly don’t want to homo any of them. Don’t you have any platonic friends?

I think you guys are suffering textbook projection if you can read this thread & think that.

[baffa]

I tend to agree with him, the second hand bike market is out of whack.
People pay good money for sub par bikes, when bigger and better bikes, which are often learner legal, get less.

One thing that makes me laugh is that certain bikes, like Yamaha Scorpios, are sold second hand for the same money you can buy one absolutely new with a warranty.

If you're gonna spend say $4k on some 250 that has seen 50km, and is 15 years old, why dont you spend a little more, and get a new 300cc ninja, or CBR500R, with warranty.

[F5 Dave]

Thing is, Scorpos are a stain on Yamaha's name if you look at the build quality. I like the concept, but leave one outside & they look like they are reverting to base elements in short order. I guess at that end they make em as cheap as pos.

[tigertim20]

I tend to agree with him, the second hand bike market is out of whack.
People pay good money for sub par bikes, when bigger and better bikes, which are often learner legal, get less.

One thing that makes me laugh is that certain bikes, like Yamaha Scorpios, are sold second hand for the same money you can buy one absolutely new with a warranty.

If you're gonna spend say $4k on some 250 that has seen 50km, and is 15 years old, why dont you spend a little more, and get a new 300cc ninja, or CBR500R, with warranty.

I see your point, but for alot of people, going the extra 6k, from 4k up to the cost of a new 300 ninja for 10k, isnt just a little extra!
plus, there are an awful lot of people out there who still have no idea about the learner stuff that is now legal. Have spoken to alot of motorcyclists who didnt even know, and as for non riders that are only thinking about it, unless the really look into it, how would they know until/unless they join a forum

[varminter]

It's red, people like red, they leave their brain at home for red.:laugh:

[Smifffy]

So you joined up especially to tell us that there are rip offs and bargains to be had on Trademe. Do you work for the Herald? Or are you some kind of consultant?

[F5 Dave]

Well coming back from the racing listening to Queen I heard some disturbing trivia about the song Don't stop me now. Apparently it's about Bum sex on acid. Euew!


so why do they call you Mr Fahrenheit?

[nzspokes]

1 The tyres look very new .. maybe the owner just put on new tyres and rode the bike hme to take the photograph ... and as he says, he is currently riding it .. can can tell fuck all from chicekn strips ...

2 a GSXR thou with chicken strips like that? Shit - i'd buy it - shows the bike has not been too thrashed ...

And whaddarya .. some kind of trademe policeman or wannabe commentator .. ??? If people can get good money for bikes why shouldn't they - a bike is worth what someone wll pay for it - not what an owner or a wannabe think it's worth ..

Oh come on, the center of that tyre is flat as a pancake.

Yes it would be a good buy, certainly doesnt look to have done 12000ks.

[Smifffy]

Well coming back from the racing listening to Queen I heard some disturbing trivia about the song Don't stop me now. Apparently it's about Bum sex on acid. Euew!


so why do they call you Mr Fahrenheit?

You'd have to ask Them.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=653718529

Idd go crazy on this. Maybe even into the mid twos.

[Banditbandit]

I like this - not so sure about the money tho'

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=653432493

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/289219761.jpg

[Mike.Gayner]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=653718529

Idd go crazy on this. Maybe even into the mid twos.

I've actually had my eyes on this, but I'd have to buy it sight-unseen, which is a bit of a risk with this particular bike.

[F5 Dave]

You must have been high.
You must have been high.
You must have been.

Foot in mouth, and head up asshole.
Whatcha talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out, boy!

You must have been, so high.
You must have been, so high.

Steal, borrow, refer, save your shady inference.
kangaroo done hung the juror with the innocent.

Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo
Got lemon juice up in your...EYE!

When you pissed all over my black kettle
You must have been HIGH, HIGH
You must have been HIGH, HIGH

[Smifffy]

I've actually had my eyes on this, but I'd have to buy it sight-unseen, which is a bit of a risk with this particular bike.

...and with that particular seller, given the feedback.

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-649440422.htm

what is this dude selling? Pimping out his (quite MILF-y it has to be said) lady friend?

unless its her bike?

so many questions.

[Tazz]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-649440422.htm

what is this dude selling? Pimping out his (quite MILF-y it has to be said) lady friend?

unless its her bike?

so many questions.

Bikini doesn't match her heels and there is no water in sight.
Square bottomed heels don't match the curvature of the bike and are not suited to the gravel surroundings.
Terrible posture.
Knees are disproportionate to the girth of her thighs

2/10 - would not bang.

[Smifffy]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-649440422.htm

what is this dude selling? Pimping out his (quite MILF-y it has to be said) lady friend?

unless its her bike?

so many questions.

I reckon only pics 8-18 are of the actual bike, all the rest are just pics that make Neil30 jizz.

[F5 Dave]

Is that a motorbike? Doesn't fit my description. And that's a internet stolen picture.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Is that a motorbike? Doesn't fit my description. And that's a internet stolen picture.

I never even saw that logo. Too much milf-flesh I guess.

mmmm flesh

[Gremlin]

I never even saw that logo. Too much milf-flesh I guess.

mmmm flesh
It's Ok, it was a test. You didn't see the logo, you passed ;)

Still, he does have a GS Adventure the garage... he's redeemed himself...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well coming back from the racing listening to Queen I heard some disturbing trivia about the song Don't stop me now. Apparently it's about Bum sex on acid. Euew!


so why do they call you Mr Fahrenheit?anonyous cocaine fuelled unprotected gy sex. Fred died f AIDS you do reaise?

[Erelyes]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-649440422.htm

what is this dude selling? Pimping out his (quite MILF-y it has to be said) lady friend?

unless its her bike?

so many questions.

Sorry, this classified has expired.

1/10 for stamina

[spray36]

Mike is right. only an idiot, or someone with money than brains would spend 2.4k on a deregistered run down 250 ninja. could definitely get a decent one that is registered for 2k. even less if you're in the know. it's expensive to re-register a bike