Queensland police raid recreational Vietnam and Veterans Motorcycle Club

[Voltaire]

Saw this on the Norton forum, they are saying group riding may be under threat. Raiding a club for ex Vietnam Vets, guys in their 60's and 70's.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/queensland-police-raid-veterans-club-under-anti-bikie-laws/5059250

[unstuck]

Can see this causing a bit of a stir in the months to come.:shifty:

[SMOKEU]

"Senior officers say that if bikies meet in groups of three or more interstate all police need to do is get some recording of it, such as from a security camera at an airport, restaurant or service station, and if the bikies return to Queensland, they can be arrested and face up to three years in jail" (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/queensland-police-raid-veterans-club-under-anti-bikie-laws/5059250)

I find it hard to believe that's actually true. Surely in a civilized country like Aussie they can't do shit like that, or is the country really that fucked? I'm wondering if there's a bit more to it than the article is saying.

[Berries]

I find it hard to believe that's actually true. Surely in a civilized country like Aussie they can't do shit like that, or is the country really that fucked? I'm wondering if there's a bit more to it than the article is saying.
It's Queensland. The Police are a bit different up there.

[kevfromcoro]

It's Queensland. The Police are a bit different up there.

they sure are.. give them a uniform,, and they think they are god

[roogazza]

"Senior officers say that if bikies meet in groups of three or more interstate all police need to do is get some recording of it, such as from a security camera at an airport, restaurant or service station, and if the bikies return to Queensland, they can be arrested and face up to three years in jail" (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/queensland-police-raid-veterans-club-under-anti-bikie-laws/5059250)

I find it hard to believe that's actually true. Surely in a civilized country like Aussie they can't do shit like that, or is the country really that fucked? I'm wondering if there's a bit more to it than the article is saying.

In my day it was "Three or more people for a common purpose" ! Constitutes an unlawful assembly.
Funny enough I was there, one of the first times it was used
in NZ !!! LOL.

[Zedder]

they sure are.. give them a uniform,, and they think they are god

Yeah, they're not on my list of favourite police. The often used phrase "Queensland cops, the best money can buy..." also springs to mind.

In general though, Aussie cops seem to be too "americanised" which certainly doesn't help matters.

[Dave-]

In my day it was "Three or more people for a common purpose" ! Constitutes an unlawful assembly.
Funny enough I was there, one of the first times it was used
in NZ !!! LOL.

Came here to check this was posted.

Was not disappointed.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328559.html

[SMOKEU]

If they're going to start hating just because people choose to ride motorcycles as an alternative form of transport to a car, then what's next, arresting people for the colour of their skin?

[avgas]

Patches are like tramp stamps. Once people see yours.....they will never look at you the same way.

[Wingnut]

If they're going to start hating just because people choose to ride motorcycles as an alternative form of transport to a car, then what's next, arresting people for the colour of their skin?

I think they have already been there, done that mate.....

[Oakie]

"No-one was searched, arrested or cautioned during the raid"

Bit like roadside alcohol checks IMHO. Check the status ... all is above board ... everyone moves on.

You run with dogs, expect to get bitten. These guys weren't 'running with dogs' and nothing happened.

[Zedder]

"No-one was searched, arrested or cautioned during the raid"

Bit like roadside alcohol checks IMHO. Check the status ... all is above board ... everyone moves on.

You run with dogs, expect to get bitten. These guys weren't 'running with dogs' and nothing happened.

True, but these guys weren't on the list of banned organisations and a raid isn't quite like a roadside check.

[scumdog]

It's Queensland. The Police are a bit different up there.

The frikking politicians and all froms of 'government' in that state are 'a bit different' - the most beige state in a beige country...

[scumdog]

If they're going to start hating just because people choose to ride motorcycles as an alternative form of transport to a car, then what's next, arresting people for the colour of their skin?

I suspect in the past you've lived where that happened a lot....<_<

[Big Dave]

>>>Deputy Queensland Police Commissioner Brett Pointing, the head of the state-wide Operation Resolve, said most officers had a “limited knowledge” of legitimate motorcycle groups.
“One of the strategies gang members have used is to de-identify themselves straight away and that's meant we've had to undertake many interceptions throughout Queensland,” he said.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/bikers-asked-to-give-police-notice-of-rides-20131031-2wm1l.html#ixzz2jT4QUFRz<<<




Face palm the size of a really big palm tree.

[Akzle]

those cracker ass boys from the last good gunfight, a) cost too much, b) know too much.

Tptb Start with the easy ones. Thin end of wedge and gradual erosion of liberty clichés.

[Diggers]

The media commonly use the term "raid" to describe Police actions. It is an emotive term which implies that the Police:

arrived suddenly
entered at speed
used force to smash their way in by breaking down doors etc
forced everyone inside to lie down and handcuffed them all
detained them in that state for some period of time
any or all of the above.

I'm fairly sure from the article about the above "raid" that none of these things happened.

But the club was "raided by Police", so the unknowing assume this and go off on tangents about what they think happened

[Voltaire]

The media commonly use the term "raid" to describe Police actions. It is an emotive term which implies that the Police:

arrived suddenly
entered at speed
used force to smash their way in by breaking down doors etc
forced everyone inside to lie down and handcuffed them all
detained them in that state for some period of time
any or all of the above.

I'm fairly sure from the article about the above "raid" that none of these things happened.

But the club was "raided by Police", so the unknowing assume this and go off on tangents about what they think happened

The Media...they just make stuff up.....like the Coatsville Evening Standard: " the Police today popped in for a chat with Herr Dotcom" :msn-wink:

[Headbanger]

What I find disturbing is that the people not only seem to find this acceptable but welcome it.

I suppose it gives the pretend outlaws a bit of an ego boost to go with their cos play.

[Big Dave]

What I find disturbing is that the people not only seem to find this acceptable but welcome it.




I've recently signed on here:

http://forums.bikeme.tv/index.php

There is a bit of rark-up-age.

[Swoop]

Goodness knows what they will do with a Ulysses ride.

They have a patch and ride around in groups.:eek5::shit:

[Headbanger]

I've recently signed on here:

http://forums.bikeme.tv/index.php

There is a bit of rark-up-age.

Cool, Ive been looking for a local bike forum, Slim pickings so far.

Some bastard has already taken the Headbanger name though.

[Big Dave]

Goodness knows what they will do with a Ulysses ride.

They have a patch and ride around in groups.:eek5::shit:


'Apparently' they stop them and check all's credentials but I haven't heard that from anyone first hand.

I've got new Harley test bikes for the next month. Will be interesting to see if I get stopped.
So far the chook chaser hasn't drawn a second glance.

[Bender]

I've recently signed on here:

http://forums.bikeme.tv/index.php

There is a bit of rark-up-age.

What is it? Seems to be no identification or information about the site and its intent.

Maybe you have to join to see what it's about but that's a no thanks from me.

I take it that under Queersland law, me and a few mates riding to a cafe for a coffee is now considered a dangerous act of sedition that is likely to undermine the safety of the good people of that state. Really?

[kevfromcoro]

There is a town here called Canungra...
it isn't big. gas stastion and a few shops. but it such good ride out there.
last time I was there ... there were prolly 300 bikes. all sorts,, there was never any trouble. and the amount of money we spent must of been a lot....
bikers are allways stuffing something down there gob
wonder wot the cops are going to do there.....
if they bust it up.... it will destroy the town

[Big Dave]

>>What is it? Seems to be no identification or information about the site and its intent.

The forums are part of www.bikeme.tv - my Pal Boris is one of the Gaffers and it's their shot at new Media.

>>Maybe you have to join to see what it's about but that's a no thanks from me.

The 'Banger will fit right in. Probably not a good place for Kiwi general politeness anyway.


>> Really?

No, but it is possible.

[Ntoxcated]

Australian Supercops

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[Big Dave]

Register rides of 12 or more or be stopped.

The govt drove the criminals underground weeks ago. They are probably driving around in unobtrusive cars and in plain clothes - still doing what they do - probably more efficiently.

The only ones left in plain view are the good guys with nothing to hide, yet they are still targeting anyone on a bike in a group.

Un-be-fucking-leavable.

Leave-able is a good word for Queensland right now. If only the climate wasn't so nice.

[SPman]

If only the climate wasn't so nice.

Nice! OK if you like the tropics and living with 500,000 kiwis........

[Big Dave]

Nice! OK if you like the tropics and living with 500,000 kiwis........

Yeah. But particularly the tropics bit.

[ellipsis]

...An Aussie and a Yank aid worker are helping out at the Japan nuclear
disaster.
Yank says, "You from round here, buddy?"
"No," he replies, "Queensland."
"What State's that in?" asks the Yank.
"Pretty much the same as this fuck'n place!"...

[Banditbandit]

If they're going to start hating just because people choose to ride motorcycles as an alternative form of transport to a car, then what's next, arresting people for the colour of their skin?

:killingme :rofl: :clap: :killingme coming from a white afrikaaner that's fucking hilarious ...

[Headbanger]

Nice! OK if you like the tropics and living with 500,000 kiwis........

I like the $60 an hour, company wagon,super, and weekends off.

The fact that its always sunny and there are mates here from my old kicking ground just makes it that much better.

And lets not get started on the year round theme park tickets for the kids.....

[Coldrider]

Sons of Anarchy are branching out from Charming and patching over
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/9308921/Sons-of-Anarchy-shirt-confuses-Aussie-cops

[scumdog]

I like the $60 an hour, company wagon,super, and weekends off.

The fact that its always sunny and there are mates here from my old kicking ground just makes it that much better.

And lets not get started on the year round theme park tickets for the kids.....

Gimme crappy weather - it keeps the crowds away

I got super, company car, weekends off -but not $60 an hour:no:

And theme parks bore me now...

[insane1]

Most Queensland cops are corrupt dipshits who couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery .

[Big Dave]

it's not hard to get away from the crowd Scummy. There's a ferkin' lot of it.

The biggest gear decision I have all year is whether to close the vents in my jacket in winter. So far I haven't. The hours I keep it never gets cold.

I didn't mind Auckland climate either. The quality of riding made up for the rain.

Here the weather tends to make up for the quality of riding - and Government.

[Banditbandit]

Sons of Anarchy are branching out from Charming and patching over
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/9308921/Sons-of-Anarchy-shirt-confuses-Aussie-cops

:killingme :clap: :rofl: :killingme :clap: :rofl:

Q'sland cops are obviously pretty dumb

But this ....


Queensland's Police Commissioner Ian Stewart has said officers should quit the service if they don't want to be part of the bikie crackdown.

"If people aren't prepared to do that, to step up when the going gets tough, then they really do need to consider another career," the police commissioner has told ABC radio.

What did he want ?? These officers to beat the shit out of a TV fan ???

[haydes55]

Arabs blow up planes and murder thousands of innocent people... "you can't judge the many for the actions of a few". It's racist to only search Arabs and dodgy looking burker wearers.

Gangs choose to ride bikes.... "you ride a bike like a criminal does". It's illegal to do something that gangs do! Even if it's harmless and legal.

[GrayWolf]

Goodness knows what they will do with a Ulysses ride.

They have a patch and ride around in groups.:eek5::shit:

Was thinking the same about HOG, BoOB, Boulevard club, etc, etc...........
And here's an interesting thought.... my ex is a member of the Spyder Riders group and the official 'can am' club....
Can see it know... 20 hardened criminal bikies riding Trikes pulled over.... Police accuse them all of being public transport 'fair evaders' as they are all over 65....:weird:

[SPman]

Arabs blow up planes and murder thousands of innocent people... - just like the yanks and brits......"you can't judge the many for the actions of a few". - why not? It's what most fuckheads do.

Gangs choose to ride bikes.... "you ride a bike like a criminal does". It's illegal to do something that gangs do! Even if it's harmless and legal. Just force them underground and make them drive cars - like all the other criminals :weird:

[Hawk]

Was thinking the same about HOG, BoOB, Boulevard club, etc, etc...........
And here's an interesting thought.... my ex is a member of the Spyder Riders group and the official 'can am' club....
Can see it know... 20 hardened criminal bikies riding Trikes pulled over.... Police accuse them all of being public transport 'fair evaders' as they are all over 65....:weird:

ha no problems with Spyders they are classified as a cars in New Zealand, then again there's always the boy racer laws to cover that, then there's mobility scooter option, oh the possibilities are endless.

[oneofsix]

ha no problems with Spyders they are classified as a cars in New Zealand, then again there's always the boy racer laws to cover that, then there's mobility scooter option, oh the possibilities are endless.

you are going to rely on the likes that can't tell a Sons of Anarchy tee shirt from a gang patch to know that something ridden with handle bars by a group of people in bike gear is not a bike? :lol:

[Big Dave]

I have no issue with someone in SOA kit being harassed.

[scumdog]

I have no issue with someone in SOA kit being harassed.

I concur - judging by the number of slack-jawed mouthbreathing drongos that seem to favour that sort of 'kit'.

[GrayWolf]

you are going to rely on the likes that can't tell a Sons of Anarchy tee shirt from a gang patch to know that something ridden with handle bars by a group of people in bike gear is not a bike? :lol:

Well we now know why Scummy etc only park up in 2's on the roadside... or the local 'Constabulary' may pull up in their patrol car and nic 'em for being a 'Patch' wearing Bikie gang.....
After all if the general 'Plod' cant tell an SoA T-shirt from a 1% patch... they likely wont recognise a 'police patch' apart from 3 of 'em parked up together = bikie gang! :shutup::innocent::facepalm:

[Zedder]

you are going to rely on the likes that can't tell a Sons of Anarchy tee shirt from a gang patch to know that something ridden with handle bars by a group of people in bike gear is not a bike? :lol:

The cops need to watch more TV, they will then be able to identify the SOA types better (and it'll keep them off the streets more) also their briefings need to include images, like WW2 aircraft ID cards, of various patches.

Comparative images, of belligerent Alpaccas for example, would be an advantage.

[scumdog]

Well we now know why Scummy etc only park up in 2's on the roadside... or the local 'Constabulary' may pull up in their patrol car and nic 'em for being a 'Patch' wearing Bikie gang.....
After all if the general 'Plod' cant tell an SoA T-shirt from a 1% patch... they likely wont recognise a 'police patch' apart from 3 of 'em parked up together = bikie gang! :shutup::innocent::facepalm:

(a) the general 'Plod' was Aussie - nuff sed!:bleh:

And (b) we only park up in 2's 'cos that's all the staff we have down here...:msn-wink:

[Wingnut]

I have no issue with someone in SOA kit being harassed.

Exactly. Retarded is as retarded does. Generally I don't give a fuck what I look like, as long as I'm not wearing a 'Sons of Anarchy' Tee..... Maybe it makes some fell just a little bit bad and if the feds give em a bit of stick, they'd probably crack a fat over it and spend the next 6 month telling their SOA buddies all about it. Jesus, I 'm on a bit of a rant now.... Must have glanced a nerve

[GrayWolf]

I concur - judging by the number of slack-jawed mouthbreathing drongos that seem to favour that sort of 'kit'.

Have you seen the 'pisstake' version for us old farts??...... Sons of Arthritis...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/lhtjpqr

[Big Dave]

Luls. Sharing now.

FWIW the tiny url didn't work on my glowing rectangle (http://www.wordspy.com/words/glowingrectangle.asp). Had to click through.

[Muppet]

I like the $60 an hour, company wagon,super, and weekends off.

The fact that its always sunny and there are mates here from my old kicking ground just makes it that much better.

And lets not get started on the year round theme park tickets for the kids.....

Oh god, a "Life's so much better in Oz" post. Let me guess you have BBQ's every night and "things are just so much cheaper!" ?? You haven't mentioned the billions of cane toads that come out at night, the snakes, the searing heat and the fact that as Kiwi if you lose your job you won't get any benefits. Fun parks? I was at Sea World, Dream World and Wet n Wild last year and I enjoyed it, but I wouldn't go every weekend or every month for that matter. And I was accosted by a bunch of ex - kiwi no hopers, who tried to trick us into buying timeshares. They're probably telling their families in NZ how great they're all doing. As far as I'm concerned they did us all a favour by shooting through.

[Headbanger]

My life is far better in Aussie, Primarily due to the access to employment, I could not give a fuck about the benefit. I'd much rather have a job.


Snakes, toads, who gives a fuck, we are men, not mice, and the weather is stunning.

[swbarnett]

My life is far better in Aussie, Primarily due to the access to employment, I could not give a fuck about the benefit. I'd much rather have a job.
Until you don't. But I hear ya. A job with no prospect of a benifit is better than no job and a benifit.



, and the weather is stunning.
What a brilliant choice of words. If I was over there I'd be stunned most of the time. Can't stand the heat.

[Muppet]

My life is far better in Aussie, Primarily due to the access to employment, I could not give a fuck about the benefit. I'd much rather have a job.


Snakes, toads, who gives a fuck, we are men, not mice, and the weather is stunning.

Really? And what happens when you lose your job, or quit and can't find another? I watched a program last night about a woman who headed a charitable trust for kiwi's in the shit in OZ. One couple were living in a caravan on her front lawn because the hubby had lost his job after suffering an injury. This could happen to you at any time friend, you never know what's around the corner. Are you entitled to the Oz equivalent of ACC? This woman is the only person with any guts to come out and say Oz isn't the land of milk and honey and to do your homework before you come over.

Two people I know in their 50's who moved near Darwin, have only just found out that to get their NZ Super (GRI at 65 years) they have to have worked for 5 years continuous in New Zealand, between the age of 50 and 65 to be eligible. They are now considering coming back.

As for snakes, the people we were visiting in Tweed Heads told us they saw a snake "disappear in the garage somewhere" while we were having a, yes you guessed it BBQ and their kids had to "Put ya gummies on" before they could go play in their back yard! (A 2 acre block with long grass) Oh and the Cane Toads had poisoned their dog numerous times. And we had to go inside eventually as the two electric bug zappers they had hanging in the "verandah" couldn't cope and we got eaten alive. The guy who owned the house was a kiwi Plumber earning a ton of money but he worked 60 hours a week. He said the only good thing about Oz was the weather.

"Where the bloody hell are ya?" in NZ mate and I'm staying put!!!

[Headbanger]

Really? And what happens when you lose your job, or quit and can't find another?!

Go home. I don't see that unemployed Kiwis are Australias problem.

Having said that, Fuck all jobs in NZ and I wouldn't be going anywhere to go on the benefit.

I've put in the ground work to ensure Im employable even in a tight job market, The only way is up.

[Zedder]

Go home. I don't see that unemployed Kiwis are Australias problem.

Having said that, Fuck all jobs in NZ and I wouldn't be going anywhere to go on the benefit.

I've put in the ground work to ensure Im employable even in a tight job market, The only way is up.

Good attitude. Living over there isn't for everyone but if you can give it a go then fair enough. The same probably applies to any country which isn't your own.

It would be good however if Oz gave the same deal to Kiwis as we do to their people over here.

[swbarnett]

Go home. I don't see that unemployed Kiwis are Australias problem.
Why not? Afterall, it's the Aussie coffers that you've been paying tax into.

What you're really saying is that you'll come back to NZ and claim a benifit that you haven't been contributing to. Why should a job loss in Aus be NZs problem?

Personally I prefer the way they did it in Switzerland when I was there. Bugger all tax but you're expected to pay for your own employment insurance. No argument as to who's entitled irrespective of where you come from.

[Headbanger]

Why not? Afterall, it's the Aussie coffers that you've been paying tax into.

What you're really saying is that you'll come back to NZ and claim a benifit that you haven't been contributing to. Why should a job loss in Aus be NZs problem?


fuck you chap, Thats the opposite of what I said i would do.

Anyhow, NZ has bred a few generations of welfare dependent shitbags and single mums who are pumping out even more of the same, Boat people are more desirable. Keep the fuckers in NZ so they don't ruin shit over here.

[Road kill]

I lived in Oz five years and was fully employed the whole time,two years by meself.

Saw most of the Southern states driving wide/over sized loads pilot to everywhere.
Rode my HD Shovel on as many of the better roads I drove on at work.

Got ripped off heaps while learning to do bussiness with Aussies then just as things were getting good I decided it was getting boring again an the whole country was really a hot dirty place full of cunts that tell the same sheep joke to often and junkies that steal your shit when your not home.
And God forgive me but,,,Abo's

The fishing was also not very good unless you were willing to travel fuck'n miles

Then the Gov't reduced the rights of legit firearms owners following Port Arthur.
I had a small collection of rifles I was going to import from NZ to Oz but it soon became pretty obvious it wasn't going to happen.


So now the fishing is pretty good on my doorstep,the roads are better for bikes,the grass is green,an there's no snakes or freaky lizards an fish that sting real bad.

Oz was fun but it ain't home.

Relax dude.:cool:

[SPman]

Oz was fun but it ain't home.

in a nutshell.....

[Headbanger]

Glad I'm able to shake off all that home bullshit, still, it ain't hard when home is Wanganui.

Only thing I miss is my bike (still in Wanganui)

[russd7]

Glad I'm able to shake off all that home bullshit, still, it ain't hard when home is Whanganui.

Only thing I miss is my bike (still in Whanganui)

there fixed that for ya, hate to get all the PC'rs off side

[Headbanger]

You mean to stay you got rid of the stink, the shitbags, The legacy of shithouse management from every council in the last 50 years, the small minded morons, and removed barriers so as to enable business to get a foothold so the town has the ability to offer viable employment and retain more of its young people thereby increasing trade for the commercial district and creating a housing market......

Or did you just add an H.

Yeah, Awesome work New Zealand.

Hope that came with a decent cash payout for the brothers.

[swbarnett]

fuck you chap, Thats the opposite of what I said i would do.
Well, I seem to have gotten the wrong end of the stick. Perhaps I took what you said too literally.

You said you wouldn't be going anywhere to go on the benefit after saying you would go home if you lost your job. What if there were no jobs to be had in Aus or here?

[Headbanger]

What if there were no jobs to be had in Aus or here?

Set fire to shit.

How is endless "what ifs" relevant to anything?

[swbarnett]

Set fire to shit.
Sounds like the right move. Maybe then the government will pull finger and do something about things.


How is endless "what ifs" relevant to anything?
Agreed. My point is just that you're paying tax in Aus yet you aren't entitled to the benifits that tax is paying for. And on the flip side you're not paying tax in NZ but would be entitled to the DOL if you came back.

The problem is with the discrimintation of the Aussie government against Kiwis.

[Headbanger]

So they should pay us to come to their country, use their health care, their education, their infrastructure?

If you want the dole you can either stay at home or do what everyone else in the world has to do, apply to be a citizen and get in line.

Either way, if the dole is your plan, then you have a shit plan.

[swbarnett]

So they should pay us to come to their country, use their health care, their education, their infrastructure?
No, they should, however, give you the benifits you've paid for if you happen to need them. Just like everybody else that pays Aussie tax.


If you want the dole you can either stay at home or do what everyone else in the world has to do, apply to be a citizen and get in line.

Either way, if the dole is your plan, then you have a shit plan.
Agreed. The DOL is never a plan. More a shit happens, get off it ASAP backstop.

The DOL is just a contingency and, more importantly, an example of a benifit you should be entitled to if you're paying the same tax as a native.

[Zedder]

I lived in Oz five years and was fully employed the whole time,two years by meself.

Saw most of the Southern states driving wide/over sized loads pilot to everywhere.
Rode my HD Shovel on as many of the better roads I drove on at work.

Got ripped off heaps while learning to do bussiness with Aussies then just as things were getting good I decided it was getting boring again an the whole country was really a hot dirty place full of cunts that tell the same sheep joke to often and junkies that steal your shit when your not home.
And God forgive me but,,,Abo's

The fishing was also not very good unless you were willing to travel fuck'n miles

Then the Gov't reduced the rights of legit firearms owners following Port Arthur.
I had a small collection of rifles I was going to import from NZ to Oz but it soon became pretty obvious it wasn't going to happen.


So now the fishing is pretty good on my doorstep,the roads are better for bikes,the grass is green,an there's no snakes or freaky lizards an fish that sting real bad.

Oz was fun but it ain't home.

Relax dude.:cool:

I'm always interested in hearing about experiences people have had in countries I've been to and yet to go to.

I've met people who've had a crap time in some of the nicest places and fantastic times in crap places. Visiting is of course totally different to actually living in a country. However, IMHO it also depends on the type of person you are, how you react to situations, what you do for a job etc.

Ultimately though, there is no place like home.

[pritch]

I've met people who've had a crap time in some of the nicest places and fantastic times in crap places. Visiting is of course totally different to actually living in a country. However, IMHO it also depends on the type of person you are, how you react to situations, what you do for a job etc.



Or as Banksy would have it:

289725

[Headbanger]

No, they should, however,

well, I think we have established that we disagree :niceone:

[Headbanger]

Back in the mid-ninties when I done my first 5 year stint in Aussie I was in the habit of being a bit of a cunt at work and ended up changing jobs regularly, during one of the down times I went into the dole office and made a few enquirers, What I was entitled to at that time wouldn't have even covered the rent, and I was tied into a 12 month lease.

oh how I laughed.

And even then there were public parks full of homeless Kiwis living off charity,boozing it up, being useless felching fucks.

[swbarnett]

well, I think we have established that we disagree :niceone:
Indeed. It's all academic for me anyway. As you were...

[Muppet]

Go home. I don't see that unemployed Kiwis are Australias problem.

Having said that, Fuck all jobs in NZ and I wouldn't be going anywhere to go on the benefit.

I've put in the ground work to ensure Im employable even in a tight job market, The only way is up.

Oh? So you're a drug dealer then?

[Big Dave]

If any of you are coming over for a motorcycle holiday alone or with the Mrs - it's still quite OK here. I haven't had any grief.

If you are coming over in a group - even a small group - for the time being I would avoid Queensland altogether and head for Northern NSW.
The riding is better anyway.



I can well understand how Kiwis get sick of the sheep jokes. Ignorance is not universal however.

[Robbo]

How about this group Dave??

[Big Dave]

How about this group Dave??


They have been patched over. It's all yellow now. Even the bike is yellow hi vis. Boots - everything.

Like a giant mobile piss after consuming a packet of lemon barocca.

[Headbanger]

They have been patched over. It's all yellow now. Even the bike is yellow hi vis. Boots - everything.



Hard case, I live 100m away from that intersection.

Thats the corner of Finucane and Old Cleveland rd east

[Road kill]

Glad I'm able to shake off all that home bullshit, still, it ain't hard when home is Wanganui.

Only thing I miss is my bike (still in Wanganui)

Can't help but notice your still posting on a "Home" forum though.

Muldoon got it so bloody right huh.:crazy:

[Headbanger]

Can't help but notice your still posting on a "Home" forum though.

Muldoon got it so bloody right huh.:crazy:

Muldoon was a fuckstick. Short sighted small minded dumb motherfucker.

The work force here is full of Kiwis that are motivated to work, to support themselves, and to achieve something without all the manufactured baggage created in NZ to justify shitbags and bludgers.

The country should have concentrated everything on retaining the workers and entrepreneurs rather then building a system that fucks them all over in order to support a grievance industry.

[Big Dave]

Hard case, I live 100m away from that intersection.

Thats the corner of Finucane and Old Cleveland rd east

Aye.

Get that speed triple over and we'll go for a skid. While it's still legal.

[Headbanger]

Aye.

Get that speed triple over and we'll go for a skid. While it's still legal.

Been trying to, Only have a six month window to bring over a personal vehicle and Ive been here almost 18 months.

Probably going to have to buy something local.

[SPman]

Probably going to have to buy something local.probably be cheaper all round......

[Road kill]

Muldoon was a fuckstick. Short sighted small minded dumb motherfucker.

The work force here is full of Kiwis that are motivated to work, to support themselves, and to achieve something without all the manufactured baggage created in NZ to justify shitbags and bludgers.

The country should have concentrated everything on retaining the workers and entrepreneurs rather then building a system that fucks them all over in order to support a grievance industry.

LOL,it's all the Murrays fault that you couldn't cut it so ran away huh.

Not that it ever personally cost you a fucking cent,but you carry on mate because all losers need their excuses aye.;)

BTW,we have a guy called Jamal that took your place an actually does the job properly so you stay right where you are you motivated hard working type you.

Pity the day Oz decides they don't really need Kiwi blow in's taking jobs off locals aye.;)

[Big Dave]

Just counting down to the 'Roaring Sporties' ride this morning.
I've been invited to 'bring cameras' so will try and film any police interaction.
Unlike NZ that is not illegal. About the only thing currently though!

[RDJ]

'Apparently' they stop them and check all's credentials but I haven't heard that from anyone first hand.

I'm not a Ulysses member but am age-eligible. My riding gear over here is a very faded H-D orange-and-black mesh jacket, black Draggin' Jeans, a black Shoei Multitec with a light smoke visor (saves swapping glasses for sunglasses) and nary a patch in sight (even the H-D logo is barely readable these days). And, yes, I was pulled over for "inspection". I had been warned on how to react - or rather how to not react - by a couple of riders I'd met on the road / at a gas station. Just as well. The phrase "looking for trouble" came to mind. And it wasn't me looking.

[RDJ]

Just counting down to the 'Roaring Sporties' ride this morning.
I've been invited to 'bring cameras' so will try and film any police interaction.
Unlike NZ that is not illegal. About the only thing currently though!

Hope you enjoy the ride Dave.

As for me I'm thinking about investing in a helmet camera if I'm going to be riding in Oz much longer...

[RDJ]

They have been patched over. It's all yellow now. Even the bike is yellow hi vis. Boots - everything.

That is just violently bilious!!!

[Big Dave]

We got eyeballed a few times. No interaction in 150km.

Morgan & Wacker loaned me a Heritage Softail.
It was a good day. We did a loop north west of Brisbane with some nice folks. Some are just starting out on the adventure, some returning to it, and some hard cases.
I've got the Heritage for the rest of weekend too. Yee har.

[Big Dave]

Another Boris bit:

http://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/gang-bang/

[Big Dave]

25 is the speed limit.

290368

[HenryDorsetCase]

[QUOTE=Big Dave;1130643776]25 is the speed limit.



How many will get it? should someone post the link to Tina sweating like a racehorse, and the Ikettes in fear of their lives? Also, thank you, it is now rolling round in my otherwise empty head. could be a worse lyric I guess.

[Big Dave]

OK

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[Headbanger]

LOL,it's all the Murrays fault that you couldn't cut it so ran away huh.

Not that it ever personally cost you a fucking cent,but you carry on mate because all losers need their excuses aye.;)

BTW,we have a guy called Jamal that took your place an actually does the job properly so you stay right where you are you motivated hard working type you.

Pity the day Oz decides they don't really need Kiwi blow in's taking jobs off locals aye.;)

Yeah, Granted your a fuckstick, But I'm simply not that racist.

Plenty of the hard working kiwis I referred to in the Aussie workforce are our brown shaded brothers, and the grievance industry is about greed not race. Plenty of flies bathing in that shit that aren't "murrays".

[Berries]

Also, thank you, it is now rolling round in my otherwise empty head. could be a worse lyric I guess.
Could be the Macc Lads version. Pure poetry.

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[Big Dave]

'Big' protest rides on the weekend. Couple of thousand in Brisbane. Others interstate. An Ausie-oi or an Oi-oi-oi oi?
Anyway - all it did is confirm what a prick Premier Campbell Newman is. Nothing much else.
His comment - instead of perhaps reassuring recreational motorcyclists or saying 'bear with us' or any similar message - was no, "Waste of time'. He may as well have finished with 'idiots'.
'We make no apology' which is Queenslander for - 'we don't give a fuck'.

(FWIW I mowed the laws - the protest reaction was a perfectly predictable outcome really.)


* Edit - I meant to type lawns - but laws is funnier.

[RDJ]

'Big' protest rides on the weekend. Couple of thousand in Brisbane. Others interstate. An Ausie-oi or an Oi-oi-oi oi?
Anyway - all it did is confirm what a prick Premier Campbell Newman is. Nothing much else.
His comment - instead of perhaps reassuring recreational motorcyclists or saying 'bear with us' or any similar message - was no, "Waste of time'. He may as well have finished with 'idiots'.
'We make no apology' which is Queenslander for - 'we don't give a fuck'.

(FWIW I mowed the laws - the protest reaction was a perfectly predictable outcome really.)


* Edit - I meant to type lawns - but laws is funnier.

And the PM weighed in...

Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who was in Brisbane on Sunday morning, said...

“We’re not talking here about motorcycling enthusiasts. We’re talking about hardened criminals engaging in – to put it bluntly – a giant criminal conspiracy against the public,” Mr Abbott said.

Good to hear Tony. Was he finally acknowledging Aussie pols stealing from the public in expenses rorts? Or maybe the Obeid dynasty's intergenerational 'business' activities? Oh no, he wasn't!