FUCK!!!

[Waylander]

What kind of fucked up system requires me to answere questions on a motorcycle liscence test that has absolutely nothing to do with riding a motorcycle?

What really pisses me off thow is an hour before I took the damn test I read through the whole rode code for cars book and 30 mins before I took my motorcycle test I took the car test. Passed the car with flying colours, all 35 correct, and even on the motorcycle one I passed every one that had the remotest chance of affecting a bike. But the four that didn't have anything to do with bikes I get wrong.

Think it's time for some Halo and massive alien killing...:oi-grr: (where did that machine gun smilie go?)

[bane]

I'll ask, as someone else is bound to, what sort of things were you asked?

[Waylander]

I'll ask, as someone else is bound to, what sort of things were you asked?
One was:
When driving on a motorway you must not;
A indicate before changing lanes
B pass useing the left lane
C pass other vehicles
D pick up hitchhickers

I chose B for that one as that was the one that made the most sense. Apparently it's D. On the bike I'm not gonna pick up hitchhickers at all cause they probably wont know how to ride pillion. So that wasn't an obvious one to me.

The other one that pissed me off asked about the maximum distance between your car and a vehicle you are towing. Why the hell am I gonna tow a vehicle with the bike? It's 4 meters for those that don't know.

The other two I got wrong I can't remember.

[bane]

One was:
When driving on a motorway you must not;
A indicate before changing lanes
B pass useing the left lane
C pass other vehicles
D pick up hitchhickers



the answer is obviously A - well certainly was last time I was on the Southern motorway :rofl:

[Big Dave]

Bummer - i got 2 wrong.

but what truly amazed me is that you have to sit for 2 tests if you want to get your car and bike licences - and yup, pay 2 test fees.
But the bike test is the car test with an extra page - doesn't matter - two fees two tests - even though you've just done it.
I said don't worry about the car - and a bike licence is all I got.

[texmo]

isnt it illegal to pass in the left lane - undertaking?

[cowboyz]

I always thought it was illegal to pass on the left anywhere, be it open road, passing lanes or motorways.. I do on the bike when you get those who insist on driving at 95 in the right lane but never in a car.

[Flyingpony]

Yes, some questions can be very ambiquous.
I got caught out by one during my scratch test. Years ago so forgot question but it was very doh when I saw the cross.

You'll notice that 2 answers are definitely wrong. One is right and one looks right. It can be very tough figuring which is right and almost right.

Anyway, have a look in the public library and check out the Road code for Motorcyclist. It only has relevant information and obviously lots will be the same for a car because we share many of the same road rules.

Did you purchase test scratch tests?

Horse.

[White trash]

Soooo......indicating before changing lanes didn't seem the most obvious? The test is actually regarding motorcycling and general road rules which if you don't know, you shouldn't be in charge of any vehicle.

4 wrong's still a pass though isn't it?

[riffer]

When I went for my licence in 1983 I nearly got stumped by one question out of the blue:

What is the main criterion which must be observed before one can tow a motorcycle?

Of course, being 17 I'd never even heard of someone towing a motorcycle so I said

"Well, I guess it must be that it won't go by itself?"

which turned out to be the right answer.

Go figure. :confused:

[SARGE]

Soooo......indicating before changing lanes didn't seem the most obvious? The test is actually regarding motorcycling and general road rules which if you don't know, you shouldn't be in charge of any vehicle.

4 wrong's still a pass though isn't it?


nope .. you get to miss 3..da-da-dats all f-f-olks

[White trash]

nope .. you get to miss 3..da-da-dats all f-f-olks

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Flyingpony]

nope .. you get to miss 3..da-da-dats all f-f-olks
And I think you're only allowed one wrong on the last page too.

Horse.

[Waylander]

Yes, some questions can be very ambiquous.
I got caught out by one during my scratch test. Years ago so forgot question but it was very doh when I saw the cross.

You'll notice that 2 answers are definitely wrong. One is right and one looks right. It can be very tough figuring which is right and almost right.

Anyway, have a look in the public library and check out the Road code for Motorcyclist. It only has relevant information and obviously lots will be the same for a car because we share many of the same road rules.

Did you purchase test scratch tests?

Horse.
Nah only had enough for the tests. $123.80 total. gonna be another $30 somethin to retest.


Also the library here didn't have a current Road code for motorcyclist but don't really need it anyway. I know those answeres it's the ones about cages that give me the slip.

[N4CR]

Surely you are not blaming them for getting the wrong type of book...? There are two road codes - one specialist car and one specialist motorbike.

Might help to look around properly next time.

[John]

When driving on a motorway you must not;
A indicate before changing lanes
B pass useing the left lane
C pass other vehicles
D pick up hitchhickers

dude, are you kidding?? - you said pass on the left lane.... BWAHAHAHAHA

dude thats not a car question thats just common sense.... :|

[Waylander]

Surely you are not blaming them for getting the wrong type of book...? There are two road codes - one specialist car and one specialist motorbike.

Might help to look around properly next time.
I knew I only had the car road code mate. That's not the point. Doesn't matter anymore I've had my little rant and gotten over it. (killed me alot of aliens too those damned covenant bastards and fuck those jackel snipers are hard to beat on legendary)

[MacD]

I always thought it was illegal to pass on the left anywhere, be it open road, passing lanes or motorways.. I do on the bike when you get those who insist on driving at 95 in the right lane but never in a car.

It is illegal to pass on the left in the same lane, unless the vehicle on your right is stopped (ie: waiting to turn right). It is perfectly legal in NZ to pass a vehicle travelling in the right lane while you are in the (separate) left lane.

In fact on Auckland's Southern motorway the left lane usually has the least traffic and flows the fastest because of all the idiots trying to drive in the so-called "fast" right lane!

Passing in the left lane is illegal in the UK however, but so is driving in the right lane unless passing...

[John]

Surely you are not blaming them for getting the wrong type of book...? There are two road codes - one specialist car and one specialist motorbike.

Might help to look around properly next time.
HEY BRO, LETS GO DOWN THE NORTHWESTERN AND GET SOME BITCH HIKERS?

[Waylander]

When driving on a motorway you must not;
A indicate before changing lanes
B pass useing the left lane
C pass other vehicles
D pick up hitchhickers

dude, are you kidding?? - you said pass on the left lane.... BWAHAHAHAHA

dude thats not a car question thats just common sense.... :|
Ok so why did I get it wrong when I did answere that you are not supposed to pass useing the left lane. (BTW in the road code it says that you can pass in the left lane if the road is clear and the car in the right lane is stopped or going less than speed limit )

[John]

Ok so why did I get it wrong when I did answere that you are not supposed to pass useing the left lane. (BTW in the road code it says that you can pass in the left lane if the road is clear and the car in the right lane is stopped or going less than speed limit )
When driving on a motorway you must not;

are you pulling my pisser?

[Waylander]

When driving on a motorway you must not;

are you pulling my pisser?
No...

And considering that when I got down here, everyone (including a few cops) said the best way to explore the country is to hitchhike.

Maybe their definition of motorway needs to be more specific. Doesn't matter will be taking the test again soon and this time I will pass.

[MacD]

Ok so why did I get it wrong when I did answere that you are not supposed to pass useing the left lane. (BTW in the road code it says that you can pass in the left lane if the road is clear and the car in the right lane is stopped or going less than speed limit )

Err, didn't you answer your own question? You are allowed to pass using the left lane. The bit about the speed limit is a red herring as you are not allowed to exceed the speed limit when passing, therefore in order to pass a car it must be travelling at less that the speed limit.

(Yeah right ;) )

[John]

No...

And considering that when I got down here, everyone (including a few cops) said the best way to explore the country is to hitchhike.

Maybe their definition of motorway needs to be more specific. Doesn't matter will be taking the test again soon and this time I will pass.
at the moment it would seem asthough your brain is broken, please do a rebuild or trade in.

[Waylander]

at the moment it would seem asthough your brain is broken, please do a rebuild or trade in.
Not my fault, it came this way...

[NordieBoy]

One of my oral questions was "What is the speed limit for towing a trailer".
This was just after the speeds changed for this.
I said I had no idea as I was trying for a motorbike licence.
Still have no idea but didn't it just change again recently?

[NordieBoy]

Not my fault, it came this way...
Probably out of warranty now.
Packaging damaged.
Flog it on trademe.

[SuperDave]

Those tests are so easy. Tough shit if this is sounding harsh but I can't understand how anybody can fail the test if they actually paid attention to the shit they read in the roadcode.

Yeah I know some stuff may not make sense in a practical situation such as indicating out of a roundabout when going straight through for example, But if it's written in the book then damn well consider it the correct answer for the test - it's really not worth putting the 'sensible real life answer' in if its gonna make you fail the test.

Comeone, nothing personal but no one can bitch about failing these theory tests, they are piss easy, too easy in my honest opinion.

[Ixion]

Not my fault, it came this way...

I got a skilsaw if y'wanna try repairing. Always wanted to have a tinker with that stuff, just not been able to find anyone willing to volunteer.

[crashe]

The answer is so obvious.
D. You are NOT allowed to pick up any hitch hiker on the motorway.
I think there are even a few signs up around the entrance way to the motorways.

Waylander - There are two roadcode books that you should have gotten.
The car road code and also the motorbike road code books.
Ok one wasn't available at your local library, so then you go to another library.

They are two different types of vehicles so different things to learn.
Reading just before sitting it means you havent had time enough to learn it properly.

You can buy the book at whitcoulls for $25.

[NotaGoth]

whats a motorway? i only know what gravel roads are.. lol

gutted but just make sure you pass next time! i did have a lil giggle though =P

[idb]

whats a motorway?
Exactly!910

[inlinefour]

Mindless violence on a computer allways helps for me... :woohoo:

[Lou Girardin]

Let me get this, you fail because you don't know all that you have to about traffic rules, and it's the tests fault?
Some of the other posts in here show a dire need for periodic licence retesting as well. :hitcher:

[crashe]

I was following a heap of cars the other day...
Next thing a cop comes towards us with their lights flashing.

All of us all moved over to the left (yep cars on both sides of the road)
EXCEPT the car in front of me...

Well I eventually pulled up beside the car.
The Young blond girl was on the cell phone chatting away.
I spoke to her and asked if she had seen the cop car.
Girl - "What cop car?"
Me - "The one that just past you by with flashing lights"
Girl - "Nope" "Oh you mean the one that went the other way?"
Me - "YEP"
Girl - "Yeah, oh yeah I saw it"

Me - "Well you know that you are supposed to pull over to the left, when you seen any emergnacy vehicles with their flashing lights on... no matter what side of the road they are on. Its in the road code"

Girl - "Oh, I didn't know that. Thank you for telling me"

Like this young girl was about 17 or 18 years old..
Now at what point did she get her license and wasnt she supposed to read the road code to help her get her license.

You have to wonder just how many honestly do not read the road code.

[dveus]

With multichoice tests you can get away with very little knowledge of the roadcode. There will always be 2 options that are very obviously wrong, and generally a little common sense will get you through the other 2 options.

Waylander: quick question, Are you still able to ride on your american license?

[TerminalAddict]

Waylander (and any others) was this a theory test for a learners license?

[Waylander]

With multichoice tests you can get away with very little knowledge of the roadcode. There will always be 2 options that are very obviously wrong, and generally a little common sense will get you through the other 2 options.

Waylander: quick question, Are you still able to ride on your american license?
Not really I have a temp liscense that I can ride on. Have 21 days to retest before it all goes to shite though.



Waylander (and any others) was this a theory test for a learners license?
It was a theory test for learners liscence even though I was going for full. All I'm doing is getting my liscence transferd from American to NZ.

[Ramius]

No...

And considering that when I got down here, everyone (including a few cops) said the best way to explore the country is to hitchhike.

Maybe their definition of motorway needs to be more specific. Doesn't matter will be taking the test again soon and this time I will pass.

Having read both books, I believe, if my hallucination is correct, that the rules about motorway use are in both books. But it is against the law (you can be fined) if you are caught hitch hiking on the motorway.

[bungbung]

Don't get 'motorway' and 'highway' confused.

You are not allowed to walk along the verge of a motorway, you can't cycle on a motorway etc.

[scumdog]

I knew I only had the car road code mate. That's not the point. Doesn't matter anymore I've had my little rant and gotten over it. (killed me alot of aliens too those damned covenant bastards and fuck those jackel snipers are hard to beat on legendary)

Sound like too much time on the computer and not enough on the road code.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :bleh: :whistle:

[Waylander]

the system is there to stop gay virago riding yanks from getting a licence. looks like its working :rofl:
Wow you're original... You wouldn't be an alter ego of a wind blown jinxer rider would you?

[Drum]

The reason it is not illegal to 'undertake' in the left hand lane is because it too hard to define by law (I used to work in this field in an engineering capacity before I went insane). What happens when someone pulls into a right turn bay? You undertake. The law says (translated into english) "you should keep left when you can, but we cant rustle up enough legal jargon to describe it". p.s if you have questions regarding weird road or traffic designs let me know, coz I was a designer for many years and know a lot of the 'logic' (sic) involved.

[Waylander]

you just be sure to be home by 10 pm, or you will be in trouble.
Now why should I? Are you my dad? Oh no wait even he can't tell me what time to be home by and he scares me more than some guy I've never seen and probably never will on the internet.

[White trash]

Wow you're original... You wouldn't be an alter ego of a wind blown jinxer rider would you?

Fuck off son, I don't need an alter ego to make my point. See who's online right now? WT and.....

Snot me. Still a funny bastard though.

[White trash]

Why arnt you at the hairdressers?

Hey, hey, hey, I gots no problem with you. Don't MAKE me come over there.

[Waylander]

Fuck off son, I don't need an alter ego to make my point. See who's online right now? WT and.....

Snot me. Still a funny bastard though.
Funny how you picked that out as you lol. I could have been talking about WINJA. Nah mate I'm having fun with this guy. Just kinda teasing him cause everything he has said so far you or someone else has said before. Not gonna faze me one bit. In too good a mood today, starting work Saturday and maybe getting another job somewhere up north if things go right and finally got my speedo cable. (cable doesn't work for some reason but will suss that soon.)

[Krayy]

isnt it illegal to pass in the left lane - undertaking?
Only in Australia

[Beemer]

Only in Australia

I was under the impression it was illegal to pass in the left lane in the UK as well.

[Lou Girardin]

I was under the impression it was illegal to pass in the left lane in the UK as well.

It is in most countries with effective road safety laws.

[Motoracer]

It is in most countries with effective road safety laws.

*most 'left hand drive' countries*

[Waylander]

Well there it is folks. Took the test again and this time passed it with straight aces. So, sorry to say but, John you're wrong. This country isn't rejecting me, just making the relationship a bit difficult. Like the women in most of my other relationships.

[Warr]

Well there it is folks. Took the test again and this time passed it with straight aces.
Good to hear.. :chase:

[Ixion]

It is in most countries with effective road safety laws.

Always thought it a damn silly rule m'self (no passing on the left on a multi lane road).

After all, you obviously can't apply it in city traffic - or straight ahead traffic would have to slow down and stop , just because right turning traffic couldn't proceed.

And on a motorway/multilane highway, each lane is effectively equivalent to your own single lane road. Where's the problem? You stick in your lane, they stay in theirs. It's not like someone trying to undertake you in your lane, or on a one lane road. You've got the whole lane width to do your stuff, set your lines etc. Why is it no problem if there's a vehicle to your left moving at the same speed as you, but it's suddenly the end of the earth because he creeps a length ahead of you?

I suspect that in the UK it's a hangover from the days before multilane roads, and the Poms haven't caught up with the 20th century yet. :devil2: And do the usual "neep neep neep , it's different to back home , wah wah wah " thing.

Just look right AND left. Most bikes have two mirrors. That's all that's needed.

[Lou Girardin]

The trade off for not passing on the left (or right as the case may be) is strictly controlled lane discipline. Trucks stay in the inner lanes only, not waft all over the place as here.
You wouldn't last long in the fast lane of an Autobahn at 130 k's. (or even 160)

[sunhuntin]

[QUOTE=crashe]The answer is so obvious.
D. You are NOT allowed to pick up any hitch hiker on the motorway.
I think there are even a few signs up around the entrance way to the motorways.
QUOTE]

honestly....the hitchhiker one got me as well while studying....i defined motorway as highway. i had to have it explained to me what the difference was. i associate motorways with big cities. the closest around here is auckland, lol. when i was studying for the test, i got friends to drill me on the least known topics [like hitchikers, yellow, blue and white reflectors on the road and what they mean, etc.] turns out the bits i studied most werent what i needed to know for it.

crashe, just read your other post re: pulling over for emergency vehicles. does that also apply for funerals? cos no one seems to anymore, but i always have and will.

[crashe]

crashe, just read your other post re: pulling over for emergency vehicles. does that also apply for funerals? cos no one seems to anymore, but i always have and will.

Funerals - ummmmmmm check your road code for that one...

I do know when the funeral procession is coming from the oposite direction...
I make sure that I slow down to 50km (when on the city streets) and pay my respects to the dead person with a slight nod, even thou I don't know them... I don't tend to pull over to the far left of the road thou.

If they are ahead of me I dont overtake on the bike at all.
Tend to find another way if necessary.
If they are behind me.. then it doesn't matter cos you are going at 50km.

They do travel at a slower speed thou.. But cant remember what speed they go at. The cars in the procession have their car lights on as well.

I have a cementary not too far away from me... (8 minutes away) and I have been quite lucky that I havent been stuck in a funeral procession when going out and about that often.

[sunhuntin]

they didnt have anything on funerals in the biker road code...

think ill just stick to pulling over and letting them pass, no matter where they are and find another way if necessary. seems to be the more respectful/safer option.