Rear shock shock rebuild cost?

[nzspokes]

Looks like my rear is leaking a little, seal head looks to be $60. Whats the cost and best place to get it rebuilt?

Im going to respring it anyway so oh well.:facepalm:

[random rider]

Looks like my rear is leaking a little, seal head looks to be $60. Whats the cost and best place to get it rebuilt?

Im going to respring it anyway so oh well.:facepalm:

Just had the same issue.....actually had no gas left in shock and the forks were knackered. Got mine done by Richard Ebbett at MotoSR in Taupo. Just couriered them to him and he had them back to me in 3 days.
Given them a call for a quote:
126 Gillies Ave, Taupo, New Zealand: Phone 07-985 5112

[ktm84mxc]

It'll be a stab in the dark re the cost , he won't know till it's apart on the work bench to check whats shot.
Forks are relatively a simple fix new seals , wipers and oil $150/200.

[nzspokes]

It'll be a stab in the dark re the cost , he won't know till it's apart on the work bench to check whats shot.
Forks are relatively a simple fix new seals , wipers and oil $150/200.

Oh forks I can do, very easy. Im sure I could a shock to if I had Nitrogen.

Shock looks in good shape, very minor leak.

[300weatherby]

Suprised RT hasn't already killed someone in the rush to get on here and say "pick me, pick me" ! oh, and how big is your wallet again?:shifty:

[hayd3n]

Suprised RT hasn't already killed someone in the rush to get on here and say "pick me, pick me" ! oh, and how big is your wallet again?:shifty:

rt was very reasonable to me and was also very helpful

[nzspokes]

I just read through the manual and it has a section on how to do it. May take it on myself and find somebody to charge it for me. Only takes 7psi.

Shock works fine just the shaft is a little damp and I would like to keep it in good condition.

[nzspokes]

Suprised RT hasn't already killed someone in the rush to get on here and say "pick me, pick me" ! oh, and how big is your wallet again?:shifty:

Well to be honest and nothing against RTs workmanship (only heard good things) but any time Ive had my bike or parts with a professional something has come back wrong or damaged. Im very hesitant to give my bike or parts to anybody else to work on.

[Grubber]

Well to be honest and nothing against RTs workmanship (only heard good things) but any time Ive had my bike or parts with a professional something has come back wrong or damaged. Im very hesitant to give my bike or parts to anybody else to work on.

I'm a bit the same but RT took my rear suspension away with him and put a new spring in and set it up for me and i had it back in about 3 days. Cost me bugger all!
Well worth it to be fair!

[F5 Dave]

I just read through the manual and it has a section on how to do it. May take it on myself and find somebody to charge it for me. Only takes 7psi. . .

Which is why you shouldn't do it yourself. Try 165 or therabouts (I don't know real value, but I'm considerably closer than you.)

[Drew]

I just read through the manual and it has a section on how to do it. May take it on myself and find somebody to charge it for me. Only takes 7psi.

Shock works fine just the shaft is a little damp and I would like to keep it in good condition.


Which is why you shouldn't do it yourself. Try 165 or therabouts (I don't know real value, but I'm considerably closer than you.)Yeah, 7psi seems a bit low to me. But I've had nowt to do with dirt bikes.

Think the SRAD 750 shock sat at 80psi at full extention, the RF was higher and up around 120 from memory. Whole point of the charge is to stop the fluid cavitating on the back side of the piston. 7psi would do nothing to aid in that regard.

Course, I could be totally wrong. Happens a lot.

[scott411]

I just read through the manual and it has a section on how to do it. May take it on myself and find somebody to charge it for me. Only takes 7psi.

Shock works fine just the shaft is a little damp and I would like to keep it in good condition.

I know MR Motorcycles will charge gas shocks for you, other shops may as well,

[Drew]

I know MR Motorcycles will charge gas shocks for you, other shops may as well,Firestone shops will do it up to 100psi too if you ask nicely.

[nzspokes]

Which is why you shouldn't do it yourself. Try 165 or therabouts (I don't know real value, but I'm considerably closer than you.)

I may have miss read that as read it in a hurry this morning. Ive rebuilt a lot of MTB shocks before which work the same way, just smaller.

[Crisis management]

Pro-ride suspension in Massey, good, fair pricing and local, what more do you want?

http://www.proride.co.nz/index2.html

[Robert Taylor]

Suprised RT hasn't already killed someone in the rush to get on here and say "pick me, pick me" ! oh, and how big is your wallet again?:shifty:

I think you should withdraw such remarks and apologise on account of your assumptive and judgemental remarks.

Yes we are not the cheapest. Nor do we attempt to be as we do not cut corners. I apologise profusely for training as an aircraft engineer and therefore being attentive to doing a solid and reliable job ( aircraft cannot park on clouds when they break )

We do not operate out of a shed at the bottom of a garden

Maybe you should do a survey of motorcycle suspension workshops in NZ and find out what the levels of equipment, training and experience are

How many have;

A huge inventory of every conceivable special tool

Digital spring rate tester

Digital fork spring tester

Suspension data logging equipment

Test gear for mechatronics systems

Lathes, drill presses and other machinery

Vacuum bleeding equipment

NZs hugest range of springs and shock rebuild parts

A fitted out service trailer

State of the art shock dyno

WSBK experience with Ohlins and many suspension schools attended in Sweden and the US.

Etc

And BTW I don't really need to dispense so much free advice from the benefit of my experience and many trips to Sweden, something that groups such as doctors and lawyers certainly don't dispense freely.

Tall poppy syndrome is clearly alive and well in NZ. Its also easy to snipe and run from the anonymity of a forum name.

The guy who started this thread will make a choice, there are many good suspension guys ( Norm Cobb in Auckland does a great job ) and there are also a good few that I wouldn't trust to work on a pushbike

[300weatherby]

I think you should withdraw such remarks and apologise on account of your assumptive and judgemental remarks.

Yes we are not the cheapest. Nor do we attempt to be as we do not cut corners. I apologise profusely for training as an aircraft engineer and therefore being attentive to doing a solid and reliable job ( aircraft cannot park on clouds when they break )

We do not operate out of a shed at the bottom of a garden

Maybe you should do a survey of motorcycle suspension workshops in NZ and find out what the levels of equipment, training and experience are

How many have;

A huge inventory of every conceivable special tool

Digital spring rate tester

Digital fork spring tester

Suspension data logging equipment

Test gear for mechatronics systems

Lathes, drill presses and other machinery

Vacuum bleeding equipment

NZs hugest range of springs and shock rebuild parts

A fitted out service trailer

State of the art shock dyno

WSBK experience with Ohlins and many suspension schools attended in Sweden and the US.

Etc

And BTW I don't really need to dispense so much free advice from the benefit of my experience and many trips to Sweden, something that groups such as doctors and lawyers certainly don't dispense freely.

Tall poppy syndrome is clearly alive and well in NZ. Its also easy to snipe and run from the anonymity of a forum name.

The guy who started this thread will make a choice, there are many good suspension guys ( Norm Cobb in Auckland does a great job ) and there are also a good few that I wouldn't trust to work on a pushbike

Gotcha!:bleh::bleh: But you don't have an F16 out the back to support!

[gwynfryn]

Pro-ride suspension in Massey, good, fair pricing and local, what more do you want?

http://www.proride.co.nz/index2.html

Greg at proride does a good job but you pay for it and you may find he is unwilling to work on older bikes!
Personally I would recommend Tjebbe Bruin.

ps both work from home if that upsets you.

[Robert Taylor]

Greg at proride does a good job but you pay for it and you may find he is unwilling to work on older bikes!
Personally I would recommend Tjebbe Bruin.

ps both work from home if that upsets you.

And they both have credible operations. Tjebbe has got a lot of machining gear

[nzspokes]

and there are also a good few that I wouldn't trust to work on a pushbike

Speaking of which, have got the info on servicing the Ohlins MTB product yet?

[nzspokes]

I think I will be having a go at it myself.

Then once Ive fucked it up I will get somebody else to fix it. :headbang:

[scratcher]

pull it apart, rebuild whats needed, pump it back up with a mtb front fork pump, mine was approx 140psi, try it out for a few rides, if all is good get it refilled when you have time.I like mucking about in shed learning about how crap works, enjoy

[Robert Taylor]

Speaking of which, have got the info on servicing the Ohlins MTB product yet?

No, the product is not released yet for general sale. There will be tools involved and specific techniques. Therefore also approved service agents, as is general and sensible business and technical practice.

[Robert Taylor]

pull it apart, rebuild whats needed, pump it back up with a mtb front fork pump, mine was approx 140psi, try it out for a few rides, if all is good get it refilled when you have time.I like mucking about in shed learning about how crap works, enjoy

That's fine if you are inherently sensible, careful and thoughtful. But as you will agree there are unfortunately those with the mechanical sympathy of an elephant. So they need protection from themselves!

[nzspokes]

pull it apart, rebuild whats needed, pump it back up with a mtb front fork pump, mine was approx 140psi, try it out for a few rides, if all is good get it refilled when you have time.I like mucking about in shed learning about how crap works, enjoy

Which sadly was the Kiwi way untill recently. Now things are "Black boxed" to try and get people to buy new stuff.

Im trying to instill this ethic into my son. Im on the lookout for a small motorbike for him to ride but I will get one that needs a rebuild so we can have a project and learn from it then enjoy the result.

[noobi]

Greg at proride does a good job but you pay for it and you may find he is unwilling to work on older bikes!



I just cant take the spinning "Go fast, handle good" on the proride site seriously.

[Drew]

I just cant take the spinning "Go fast, handle good" on the proride site seriously.

Yea that's proper bad English right there. Not that I mind illiterate spanner spinners working on my gear.

[Jay GTI]

Greg might not be able to do English properly, but he revalved my forks and rebuilt the shock (probably didn't need it, but while the bike was there...) and the work he did was awesome, completely sorted out the forks for the trail riding I do. He also told me the best thing I could do to really improve the suspension was go on a diet. He was spot on with that one as well.

[nzspokes]

He also told me the best thing I could do to really improve the suspension was go on a diet. He was spot on with that one as well.

I dont need someone to tell me that. :(

Working on it.

[nzspokes]

No, the product is not released yet for general sale. There will be tools involved and specific techniques. Therefore also approved service agents, as is general and sensible business and technical practice.

Will be interesting to see how that goes when it hits. Couple of brands have that market well covered at the moment.

[Drew]

Couple of brands have that market well covered at the moment.Which brands are they? Just out of interest.

[nzspokes]

Which brands are they? Just out of interest.

Rockshox and Fox. I reckon there's room for more.

[Drew]

Rockshox and Fox. I reckon there's room for more.Heard of Rockshox before now that you mention it. I only see MotoX gear when I think Fox though.

What's a rear shock worth at the moment for a peddly?

[nzspokes]

Heard of Rockshox before now that you mention it. I only see MotoX gear when I think Fox though.

What's a rear shock worth at the moment for a peddly?

Shitloads. You generally wouldnt replace a rear shock as they are easily serviced. But anywhere from $300 to $1200 depending on use etc.

Fox are big in bicycle shocks and do some moto stuff.

There used to be a MTB shock brand, Manitou that was in my opinion really good and easy to service. You just needed to make sure you bleed them and set the floating piston at the right height. But now there are better anti bob systems built into them which is essentially a low speed compression control. As frames are getting better designs the less crap needs to be added to the shock.

[Drew]

As frames are getting better designs the less crap needs to be added to the shock.
Hmmmm, this sounds suspect. I picture downhill bikes, and the shock on those things is getting just as hard a time as a motoX item.

I imagine you can expect some twin tube designs some time, if they're not on the market already.

[nzspokes]

Hmmmm, this sounds suspect. I picture downhill bikes, and the shock on those things is getting just as hard a time as a motoX item.

I imagine you can expect some twin tube designs some time, if they're not on the market already.

No they just have electronic terrain sensing systems that adjust suspension action to suit how your riding, nothing that flash....

[nzspokes]

DH bike standard fair....

http://www.ridefox.com/product.php?m=bike&t=shocks&p=99301&ref=filter

[Drew]

No they just have electronic terrain sensing systems that adjust suspension action to suit how your riding, nothing that flash....


DH bike standard fair....

http://www.ridefox.com/product.php?m=bike&t=shocks&p=99301&ref=filter

Wow, I really underestimated what you meant by "more cap"

Basically everything not allowed in production bike racing, is all go on mountain tiles!

[F5 Dave]

So you still have to push the crank arrangement around manually? Sounds dumb.

[Drew]

So you still have to push the crank arrangement around manually? Sounds dumb.Saves pushing the whole bike back from the far side of the track, when it blows up though.

[F5 Dave]

ooh that's just cruel.

[Drew]

ooh that's just cruel.

Your bikes still complete a higher percentage of laps per fuck out, than anything I've taken to the bucket track. I wouldn't consider anything I say to be overly scathing.

[Danger]

Hi guys, don't visit here much sorry, maybe once a year when things start getting quiet, almost finished up for the the year thank goodness As for the Go Fast and Handle Good on my website, its a bit of a thing that I used to always come across in MX mags before the internet (Super Hunky?) in the 80's where some snotty nosed kid would always write in asking how to make their bike Go Fast and Handle Good and the editors always gave a smart ass reply, it was funny back then. Guess you had to be there. My attempts at humour often go over the heads of many and are misunderstood, one of the reasons I started finding websites like this not so enjoyable to me, sometimes its better just to stay away and say nothing and spend time on other interests outside of dirt bikes and after working all week on bikes its nice to have down time and do other things.Yes my website is probably overdue some updates (tired of people calling me about flywheel weights etc, gotta sort that out over Christmas) but its really the least of my concerns and most of my work is word of mouth.

I admit I'm not the cheapest around and I'm proud of the work I do. I have many jobs come here sometimes only a week or two after being elsewhere and I've run a rag through the fork tubes for example and shown the customer the filth I've removed, its unbelievable some of the stuff I've seen, base valves choca with locktite, drilled pistons with broken ports, ruined bushes from forks that have been slide hammered a part reused and the never ending gutted mid valves. I do take the time to do a job properly, no time pressure on me from the boss to turn around an $80.00 an hour workshop. People can take their suspension where ever they wish too, I have my loyal customers that return over and over and are prepared to spend the money because they know I'll support them until they are happy, mostly that's the first time. If you want cheap, there are places out there that will provide that level of service.

As for the resistance to working on older bikes, usually I'll work on 2000 and up, before that its just not worth me continuing to stock parts for the odd old bike that I get called about, the bikes are usually owned by people that do not want to spend the money to get them working right, often shock shafts need to be replaced, inside fork tubes are corroded etc, it starts getting too expensive and they start looking for second hand parts that have the same issues. I've just been around long enough to know what's profitable to work on and what's not, you can spend an extra hour or more talking and explaining to the customer who doesn't want to spend the money why they need to spend the extra money or you can focus on getting the customers that have the money and the desire to get their bikes working to the level they expect. If a bike needs a new shock shaft or fork tubes anodised its a less profitable job as the costs and time to get the work done outside of my workshop means more down time, longer turn around and less profit. If someone calls about road bikes I'll generally direct them towards Robert Taylor as he is the expert and road bikes are not my area of expertise, for vintage stuff I recommend Tjebbe as usually I need to get him to make new shock shafts, hoses etc anyway so simpler for the owner just to deal direct than to keep calling me while I wait for the parts turn around via couriers etc.

Yes most of my customers are KTM riders, older riders that have been riding as long as I have and have the disposable income to get their bikes working well, not so much the younger MX rider that does not have the disposable income and want's it done cheap. I'm ok with the customers that I have, probably not the type that spend too much time talking dirt bikes on internet forums.

Thanks for the endorsement from my valued customers and Merry Christmas, hope I don't come across too illiterate, I try.

[F5 Dave]

. . ., its a bit of a thing that I used to always come across in MX mags before the internet (Super Hunky?) in the 80's where some snotty nosed kid would always write in asking how to make their bike Go Fast and Handle Good and the editors always gave a smart ass reply, it was funny back then. Guess you had to be there. . . .

haven't looked but not long ago you could still find Rick's columns online on some dirt & 4 wheeler site & he was still answering, perhaps a little calmer. Yes the idiocy of some of the kids writing in was priceless. I also enjoyed ADB's Honest Muz's satire pieces, like the vegetable V8 juice additive. can't read dirt magazines now, its all TroyLee type adds or lowest common denominator script from lacklustre journos.

[cheese]

I've had no issues with the work that Greg has done on my bike. Like everything, you want something done well, pay the money for it. There is a reason a job is cheap......