What is wrong with this picture?

[BigAl]

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Pic from a ride yesterday with a group of Auckers, trike with hydraulic rear end.

[Big Dave]

The Auto-focus has selected the indicator.

[Blackbird]

Looks like my patch - is that the Coromandel Hill? (bit hard to tell from one bend, haha )

[Maha]

Can't see a knee :confused:

[Tazz]

That's pretty cool. Did you get the plate number? Is it a home built or mass produced job?

[BigAl]

The Auto-focus has selected the indicator.
lol, must remove it before next ride


Looks like my patch - is that the Coromandel Hill? (bit hard to tell from one bend, haha )
Yep just down from lookout


That's pretty cool. Did you get the plate number? Is it a home built or mass produced job?
Home made I believe & powered by a triumph and very tidy

[Gremlin]

Is it actually a trike, or an additional 2 wheels on a bike?

[husaberg]

Has no cleavage in the pic?
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[BigAl]

Is it actually a trike, or an additional 2 wheels on a bike?
Good question, I can't remember but see what you think http://youtu.be/SHscBggWONo


Has no cleavage in the pic?
Can't argue with that:niceone:

[Tazz]

Is it actually a trike, or an additional 2 wheels on a bike?

Trike.

He gets extra points if that is a parachute strapped to the back :D

[Dave-]

That's bloody cool.

Do you know if it was an electronic controlled or mechanical system?

Wonder how those flat wheels wear....

[Robbo]

It's definitely a bike with the two extra wheels. There is no drive to the outer two wheels so they are being used as stabilizers.
I have seen similar setups where the extra wheels are fixed solid and the bike is like a trike and remains upright when riding.
This one is a great concept as it allows leaning and can be ridden like a normal bike. Great for someone who has a medical condition or injury and cannot ride a normal bike.

[AllanB]

There is some weird 'third wheel' thingy for Harleys in the USA where it drives off the standard rear wheel- don't think they lean though.

Read CanAm (SP?) is making their three wheelers lean in the future.

[unstuck]

That's bloody cool.

Do you know if it was an electronic controlled or mechanical system?

Wonder how those flat wheels wear....

I would think electric over Hydraulic, just a guess though. Same as used in the lizard and menzi mucks I suppose.
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[Tazz]

It's definitely a bike with the two extra wheels. There is no drive to the outer two wheels so they are being used as stabilizers.
I have seen similar setups where the extra wheels are fixed solid and the bike is like a trike and remains upright when riding.
This one is a great concept as it allows leaning and can be ridden like a normal bike. Great for someone who has a medical condition or injury and cannot ride a normal bike.

Hrrrrmmm, yeah nah.


http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=SHscBggWONo&p=n#/42;44

Unless you can see something under there I can't?

[Drew]

It's definitely a bike with the two extra wheels. There is no drive to the outer two wheels so they are being used as stabilizers.
I have seen similar setups where the extra wheels are fixed solid and the bike is like a trike and remains upright when riding.
This one is a great concept as it allows leaning and can be ridden like a normal bike. Great for someone who has a medical condition or injury and cannot ride a normal bike.Did you watch the video? It is not a four wheeled machine at all. You can see daylight between the outside wheels all the way to the front wheel.

[Robbo]

Did you watch the video? It is not a four wheeled machine at all. You can see daylight between the outside wheels all the way to the front wheel.

Yep Drew, i did watch the video and if you pause it around the 0:42 you can see the front and the rear wheel of the bike. Also if you study carefully the two outrigger wheels there is no drive mechanism to them and the bike is certainly not front wheel drive.:yes:

[Robbo]

The concept of adding two rear wheels as outriggers is quite popular in the States, where they call it a trike kit, although technically you still have four wheels. The outer wheels are bolted on and the drive is delivered through the normal motorcycle rear wheel. The whole setup can be added or removed quite easily. I like the concept of the one we are discussing and think it's a very clever design that allows the bike to be ridden as a bike should.

[Big Dave]

Hardly conclusive but looks like trike to me

[Motu]

I'm on the 4 wheel motorcycle side, you can see the rear wheel, and unless it's got hydrostatic drive there is no drive to the outside wheels, also no path for the drive force into the frame. But cool, very cool.

[Tazz]

Yep Drew, i did watch the video and if you pause it around the 0:42 you can see the front and the rear wheel of the bike. Also if you study carefully the two outrigger wheels there is no drive mechanism to them and the bike is certainly not front wheel drive.:yes:

That's a shadow to my eye. If you go one second more you see nothing? And again at 57 seconds?

At the risk of sounding stupid (wouldn't be the first time and it sounds like you know a lot more than me about these things), in my mind the back wouldn't be squatting down the way it is if there was indeed still a wheel in the middle?

Cool setup either way. With 4 wheels would it be classed as a car?

P.S. BigAl - You need a better camera =P

[BigAl]

I'll go back to the original clearer footage and try to get a conclusive rear shot and post up tomorrow guys.

[BigAl]

P.S. BigAl - You need a better camera =P

:bleh: yeah still saving for a GoPro

[swbarnett]

...and can be ridden like a normal bike.
Try lane splittting ...

[Robbo]

Try lane splittting ...

LOL. Yep, except for lane splitting. :niceone:

[Robbo]

[QUOTE=Tazz;1130633457]

Cool setup either way. With 4 wheels would it be classed as a car?


Interesting call Tazz, if you could class it as a car because of having four wheels i wonder if you could register it as such.
Be a lot cheaper than bike rego.

[slofox]

When I get senile (prolly next week) I'll look at one of those...

[cynna]

[QUOTE=Tazz;1130633457]

Cool setup either way. With 4 wheels would it be classed as a car?


Interesting call Tazz, if you could class it as a car because of having four wheels i wonder if you could register it as such.
Be a lot cheaper than bike rego.


think the car/bike reg has to to do with size rather then number of wheels - most v8 trikes are classed as cars and most bikes converted to trikes are reg as bikes

spyders must be classed as bikes as they still have to wear a helmet

[jim.cox]

Try lane splittting ...

And they're not so great at avoiding potholes...

[Drew]

spyders must be classed as bikes as they still have to wear a helmetNa, Spyders are registered as cars. I think I recall beign told that if you fit seat belts you don't need to wear a helmet, but that could be entirely incorrect.

[Robbo]

Na, Spyders are registered as cars. I think I recall beign told that if you fit seat belts you don't need to wear a helmet, but that could be entirely incorrect.

Yep, i think you could be right on that one Drew. I seem to remember some years ago i had a mate who built a home made trike with a VW engine in the rear and i believe he had the choice of registering it as either a car or a bike. If a bike then he had to wear a crash helmet and if a car he had to have seat belts fitted and did'nt have to wear a helmet. I think he chose the bike option as rego was cheaper back then.

[5150]

The main question is.... Did he wave?

[BigAl]

Def trike289408289407

[cynna]

. If a bike then he had to wear a crash helmet and if a car he had to have seat belts fitted and did'nt have to wear a helmet. I think he chose the bike option as rego was cheaper back then.

also depends what year it was certified regarding the seat belt laws. now I think they have to have a proper over the shoulder seatbelt

[xXGIBBOXx]

couldnt be arsed reading it all. it a rocket 3 ,hydraulic rams set up in the rear . he lives out west auckland somewhere . i work at repco and he was telling me bout it . most of it was over my head , but think of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb-MIuXTlEs

[Robbo]

Speaking of Trikes...:facepalm:

[husaberg]

I can't help but think it should be like this way around.
Best use (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2134026/Training-wheels-bikers-New-electric-motor-trike-FAR-safer-motorcycles-40mph.html) of a scooter ever.

[HenryDorsetCase]

wonder why they used car wheels not motorcycle wheels and tyres for the outriggers? cos you can see it tipping up onto the edges of the tyres which must seem weird.

is the rider disabled?

[BigAl]

wonder why they used car wheels not motorcycle wheels and tyres for the outriggers? cos you can see it tipping up onto the edges of the tyres which must seem weird.

is the rider disabled?

Well he was from Auckland.....:bleh: but was fully mobile

[Ttonka]

This is a seriously awesome trike, based on a Triumph Rocket, running motorcycle wheels at the rear and is driven by chain drive to each rear wheel. I had the pleasure or riding with the owner
from the Bombays to the Barry Sheene on Labour weekend. It is self designed and built and is a testatment to the mans skill set.:niceone:

[Drew]

wonder why they used car wheels not motorcycle wheels and tyres for the outriggers? cos you can see it tipping up onto the edges of the tyres which must seem weird.

is the rider disabled?


This is a seriously awesome trike, based on a Triumph Rocket, running motorcycle wheels at the rear and is driven by chain drive to each rear wheel. I had the pleasure or riding with the owner
from the Bombays to the Barry Sheene on Labour weekend. It is self designed and built and is a testatment to the mans skill set.:niceone:I was gonna say. Looks like bike tyres to me.

Chain drive, from a diff and axle set up? The rocket s shaft drive I thought, so seems like the easiest way to solve issues to me.

[Tazz]

Def trike

Noice. Was fairly certain from the way the back squatted down. Would have been a pivoting if there was a wheel in the middle I would have thought..

I guess it is safe to say if you're ever out with Robbo make sure you do the map reading yourself =P


also depends what year it was certified regarding the seat belt laws. now I think they have to have a proper over the shoulder seatbelt

:shit: Really? That just doesn't make sense to me. I'd rather my chances without one in most situations I can think of (on a trike).


This is a seriously awesome trike, based on a Triumph Rocket, running motorcycle wheels at the rear and is driven by chain drive to each rear wheel. I had the pleasure or riding with the owner
from the Bombays to the Barry Sheene on Labour weekend. It is self designed and built and is a testatment to the mans skill set.:niceone:

Cheers for the info man. Has he put any details up on the internet anywhere? Would be cool to see a few more detailed pictures and some build details.

[Laava]

[QUOTE=Robbo;
spyders must be classed as bikes as they still have to wear a helmet

They can be registered as either, but the car rego is cheaper. Our mates one is registered as a car but he wears helmet and there is no seatbelt. If it is registered as a car, it has to have a handbrake. Not sure about other criteria tho

[Ttonka]

Cheers for the info man. Has he put any details up on the internet anywhere? Would be cool to see a few more detailed pictures and some build details.


Hey Tazz, I don,t think so. Apparently gets mobbed everywhere he stops. It certainly draws a lot of interest. Going to the Burt with him so will find out more.

Cheers.

[GrayWolf]

[QUOTE=cynna;1130633591]

They can be registered as either, but the car rego is cheaper. Our mates one is registered as a car but he wears helmet and there is no seatbelt. If it is registered as a car, it has to have a handbrake. Not sure about other criteria tho

Unless the law has changed in the 2 years since we bought Vicky's Spyder.. By 'default' they are registered/considered a car here, but governed under the motorcycle laws for helmets etc.
They are actually an 'orphan' that LTSA didnt know what to do with, due to them being the 'reverse' of a normal trike... The only other manufactured 'example' of a front wheel trike commercially I can remember was the Scorcher in the 1970's,,, that used a Mini's front sub frame and motor, used the steering wheel and had the same fore/aft seating arrangement.... I would guess from history that as the Morgan 3 wheeler is a 2 front, one rear... that's the option that's been followed.

I believe most of the Spyder's do have a 'park brake', hers is electrically operated (RT), I think others have a manual operated one (RS).

[Tazz]

Hey Tazz, I don,t think so. Apparently gets mobbed everywhere he stops. It certainly draws a lot of interest. Going to the Burt with him so will find out more.

Cheers.

Sweet! Enjoy yourself in between grilling him for details and taking some pictures of the driveline and suspension setup to post up here haha