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northland-newbie
5th November 2013, 17:44
Hi KB members,
I know this has been asked a thousand times, but I'm after some up to date information...
I have just acquired a 1991 yamaha virago xv535 that "is not registered". the guy that i got it from did not DE-REGISTER IT, but just stopped paying the registration. This was in 2006. it still has a VIN tag on it and a number plate, both of which come up in a carjam search. can I just go to the shop and register it again, or do I have to go through a whole lot of bullsh#t to get her back on the road?

Cheers, N-N

SMOKEU
5th November 2013, 17:47
If the vehicle licensing hasn't been put on hold, then after 2 years it becomes deregistered.

northland-newbie
5th November 2013, 17:53
okay, thanks for clearing that up. i knew they did that to cars, wasn't sure about bikes...
so what is involved in getting a "deregistered" bike back on the road?

nzmikey
5th November 2013, 18:04
okay, thanks for clearing that up. i knew they did that to cars, wasn't sure about bikes...
so what is involved in getting a "deregistered" bike back on the road?

Take it to VTNZ ask for a for pay money fill out form, as far as I know they make you send it to a bike shop to get the brakes checked & make sure that they are within spec ... then it is a hard out wof

parts may be missing as I never went that far.... i just bought a new frame & plate ( P&P type thing )

Erelyes
5th November 2013, 18:34
Read this ? http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/registration/re-registering.html

northland-newbie
5th November 2013, 18:40
Read this ? http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/registration/re-registering.html

i had read that, i was more wondering on the specifics of it for bikes ie the brake checks. Thanks for the info though

northland-newbie
5th November 2013, 18:42
Take it to VTNZ ask for a for pay money fill out form, as far as I know they make you send it to a bike shop to get the brakes checked & make sure that they are within spec ... then it is a hard out wof

parts may be missing as I never went that far.... i just bought a new frame & plate ( P&P type thing )

that doesn't sound as bad as i was told. the bike is in pretty good condition so fingers crossed it flys through the tests. any pointers on parts that i should replace regardless because of how long it has been sitting for?

mossy1200
5th November 2013, 19:08
that doesn't sound as bad as i was told. the bike is in pretty good condition so fingers crossed it flys through the tests. any pointers on parts that i should replace regardless because of how long it has been sitting for?

You can do your own brake declaration.
Disc should have min wear limit stamped on them.
All you need do is state the minimum disc width and your measured results stating what gear you used and that you are competent to measure the discs.
Sign it and thats done.

Popo declaration of no interest on the bike.

VTNZ warrant and plate plus 6month min rego and your done.

Laava
5th November 2013, 19:26
Actually, you no longer need the popo declaration of "no interest to the police"
You need to get a JP to sign a statutory declaration to state that you are the legal owner. If the bike is in the registration system as having been stolen, then that is another issue.

northland-newbie
5th November 2013, 19:32
Actually, you no longer need the popo declaration of "no interest to the police"
You need to get a JP to sign a statutory declaration to state that you are the legal owner. If the bike is in the registration system as having been stolen, then that is another issue.

So i should just be able to ask the vtnz people for a brake declaration form and a JP statutory declaration form? or is a JP signature on the change of ownership papers okay?

mossy1200
5th November 2013, 19:36
So i should just be able to ask the vtnz people for a brake declaration form and a JP statutory declaration form? or is a JP signature on the change of ownership papers okay?

You don't need a brake dec form just write your own. They wont have a form as its something a bike shop does itself.
Just needs information and signature.

Gremlin
5th November 2013, 20:04
I thought that as the bike had not been deregistered all back registration owing was payable before it could be reregistered again.
It's de-registered automatically if registration isn't paid (12 month period I think).

Laava
5th November 2013, 20:42
So i should just be able to ask the vtnz people for a brake declaration form and a JP statutory declaration form? or is a JP signature on the change of ownership papers okay?

Pretty sure that vtnz will have a brake dec form and yes you need a statutory dec signed by a jp. There will be no change of ownership on a deregistered bike.

iranana
6th November 2013, 11:59
When I got my RD legal for the road at the start of this year (which hadn't been registered since 1988, and I had no contact with the last registered owner, and there was no trace of it in the system as it predated digital archiving), I had to have the following:

A statutory declaration from a JP that stated I purchased the bike for X amount (and was therefore the legal owner). In order to get this, I just went to a JP with a receipt from the person I bought it from and explained the situation. She gave me a long, hard look to make sure I wasn't lying, and that was that. I believe that if you have a receipt from the last registered owner you don't need a statutory declaration.

Then I took it over to VTNZ in Auckland, and a guy called Paul sorted it all out for me, very helpful. He did his thing, gave me the papers and I went and paid something like 440 for 6 months reg, a wof and a new plate. Done!

It's a pretty straightforward procedure, just call the places you can get it checked at and ask exactly what they need from you. Each place will probably tell you different things... and the AA will probably fuck you around (they told me all sorts of bullshit that wasn't not needed), so call around and find someone who knows what they're doing and is straight up with you.

Vinz0r
6th November 2013, 19:18
Surprised nobody has directed you here yet:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/105993-How-to-get-a-deregistered-bike-on-the-road

iranana
7th November 2013, 14:26
Surprised nobody has directed you here yet:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/105993-How-to-get-a-deregistered-bike-on-the-road

Pretty sure that's out of date. I didn't have to see the police or get a brake cert. The compliance centre did this all for me. All I needed was proof of ownership, which for me was in the form of a statutory declaration, as the bike had changed hands a couple of times since the last registered owner.

northland-newbie
7th November 2013, 19:33
Pretty sure that's out of date. I didn't have to see the police or get a brake cert. The compliance centre did this all for me. All I needed was proof of ownership, which for me was in the form of a statutory declaration, as the bike had changed hands a couple of times since the last registered owner.

i think that there is an age thing to do with the brake certificate. don't quote me, but i think bikes manufactured after 1991 have to have a brake cert...

mossy1200
7th November 2013, 22:06
i think that there is an age thing to do with the brake certificate. don't quote me, but i think bikes manufactured after 1991 have to have a brake cert...

Yes 1991 onwards and these bikes should have the min wear limit stamped onto the disc.