Adjustable brake levers?

[lenyboi4]

So i bought some nice adjustable levers for my mc22 . The front brake works beautifull nice and close to the bars(small hands)
But installing the clutch lever proves more dificult as once installed the bike wil not go into any gear exept 1st and then the bloody bike starts moving forward even with the clutch pulled in all the way
Any advise ? Anybody had the same problem how did u fix it?

[imdying]

Wind the cable adjuster out.

[lenyboi4]

Already tried that makes no difrence. wondering if a new cable might do the trick but dont want to buy 1 then be stuck in the same situation

[Sable]

Take it to someone who knows what they're doing because you obviously don't.

[lenyboi4]

Here we go typical kb mentality i was wanting advise from some1 whose been in the same boat before i took it to mechanics and dont be such a dick dude

[SVboy]

Here we go typical kb mentality i was wanting advise from some1 whose been in the same boat before i took it to mechanics and dont be such a dick dude

Good reply Sir! You will fit right in! It might be your bike has multiple adjustment points, although if the leavers are the correct ones they should be close in size.

[F5 Dave]

Well a picture would have been a help as clearly most of us don't have a MC22 in front of us. Might have shown an issue like the wrong design lever or a clash with the switchgear.

people are usually here to help, but we're not psychic (psychotic maybe).

[imdying]

Already tried that makes no difrence. wondering if a new cable might do the trick but dont want to buy 1 then be stuck in the same situationCan't make no difference bro, either it changes the cable adjustment or it doesn't. Cables are made of steel and cannot stretch, so it the cable isn't frayed, there is nothing that can be wrong with it.

Maybe it's another mistreated sack of shit and has been neglected so long the adjustment at the bottom is also out.... being a CBR250, it's quite possible.

Either get yourself a workshop manual which will explain it all step by step, or take it to a mechanic. It's a small enough job so won't be expensive. Alternatively I've explained the entire process on here a few times so use the search function (although using Google to search the site is better/faster).

[lenyboi4]

I can assure u its not neglected or a sack of crap far from it what i meant by makes no diffrence is that no matter how far i wind it in or out it stil moves forward when put in 1 st gear a longer clutch cable has been suggested il upload some pics when i get home if that helps thanks

[imdying]

One other thing, was just a lever, or an entirely new perch?

Have you whipped the lever off and compared it to the old? Can you take a decent close up of the two (in focus or don't bother, use macro mode on your camera), perhaps their a subtle difference you've missed?

[imdying]

I can assure u its not neglected or a sack of crap far from it what i meant by makes no diffrence is that no matter how far i wind it in or out it stil moves forward when put in 1 st gear a longer clutch cable has been suggested il upload some pics when i get home if that helps thanksNo, a longer clutch cable would not do it... if anything, and you wanted to butcher it instead of fixing it properly, a shorter (inner) one is what you would want, FWIW.

What I mean by neglected is that at every service you should clean and grease the cable, and when reinstalling it use all the adjustments (starting at the gearbox end) to get it correct. The top adjuster is merely to adjust the free play, not to actually adjust the actuator.... most people are either too lazy or just plain ignorant, so they just adjust the top... which is basically neglect.

[lenyboi4]

Found the problem ive attached pics to explain better

[lenyboi4]

There is a 4mm difrence between the original and the aftermarket lever

[F5 Dave]

One other thing, was just a lever, or an entirely new perch?

Have you whipped the lever off and compared it to the old? Can you take a decent close up of the two (in focus or don't bother, use macro mode on your camera), perhaps their a subtle difference you've missed?

imdying for the win, but it shows how a methodical approach will often answer the questions.


Quite often the wrong levers are fitted to bikes, usually it is the front brake that stays partially on & people are blaming the other components of the brakes.

[BigAl]

So inner cable is now too long, have you wound out cable adjuster at crankcase?

[lenyboi4]

No not yet i have not though about doing that (duh) il try that after work and see what happens

[imdying]

Found the problem ive attached pics to explain betterBrilliant! A win! Good job on the photos too.


So inner cable is now too long, have you wound out cable adjuster at crankcase?No, the cable is still fine... the length of the inner is dictated by the amount of adjustment, and the distance from the adjusters to the fixing that the inner ends connect to (i.e. the levers).

What you have now is a lack of inner end actuation travel... which is distinctly different from the travel the cable has itself. Somebody else can do the math, but that 4mm probably works about to be more like 8mm less that this lever pulls the inner through the outer.

The best thing you can do is get a lever with the correct leverage ratio. In the mean time, put your old lever back on. If you do not, and you do manage to adjust it enough to stop the bike moving when the clutch is pulled in, it will probably subtley ride the clutch when the lever is out, potentially burning the clutch out, which is a much more expensive problem.


/edit: Personally, I think your best next move is to email those pictures to the seller for their reference, and have them look through their products for one that will fit. Should be a minor problem for them to sort out :)

[swarfie]

Found the problem ive attached pics to explain better

Yep your'e right there is "about" 4mm (3.7mm actually) but you need to learn how to read a vernier scale. Measurements are 17.3mm and 21.0mm...hey I'm a toolmaker and yes a pedantic one...just saying is all :Police::clap:

[lenyboi4]

Ok i emailed them the pictures hes gona send me some sort of adapter il see how that goes ive playd around with it and i got it working but its hard to get into nuetral when the engine is running but easy when turned off?

[imdying]

Please be careful with it. If you notice any 'hot brakes' kind of smell (cluthc self destructing), or the revs start to rise but the bike does not go further (clutch slipping), stop riding it straight away. Motorcycle clutches can be very easy to destroy if improperly adjusted, so don't think she'll be right I can make it the 10kms home or whatever. GL

[lenyboi4]

Thanks:) il ride it only to work and back and check free play at crankcase adjuster along the way see how i go. i think how i got it should be ok but hey im only a noob ive replaced the clutch on my previous cbr. wasnt hard at all so if the worst happens i can fix it

[imdying]

You'll be right with that attitude :)

If it's new to you, give it a good going over... they're often neglected frightfully :(

[jellywrestler]

Here we go typical kb mentality i was wanting advise from some1 whose been in the same boat before i took it to mechanics and dont be such a dick dude

it's spelt Advice actually

[jellywrestler]

There is a 4mm difrence between the original and the aftermarket lever

yep lever ratio means it wont have the travel it should, common problem easy fix

[jellywrestler]

Yep your'e right there is "about" 4mm (3.7mm actually) but you need to learn how to read a vernier scale. Measurements are 17.3mm and 21.0mm...hey I'm a toolmaker and yes a pedantic one...just saying is all :Police::clap:

and maker of EVIL home brew spirits, saturday was a tough day.....