Good sand tyre (without going to a paddle) for a KDX200?

[Jonos]

Hey guys.

Have recently bought a kdx200. Just wondering if anyone can reccomend a tyre that is good in sand without going to a paddle tyre??

I'm currently having big traction issues when riding up the bombing range.

Any help much appreciated.

[Danger Dave]

shinko 540, awesome sand tyre but will come apart on hard terrain as its only designed for sand and soft mud conditions

[mc4aregreat]

check your rear tyre size. The standard is a 100.
I, and many others, have a 110 on our KDX that gives so much more grip .

[andy 101]

Why are you riding the bombing range with the bike park nearby, the days of riding up there are well gone.

[Danger Dave]

Why are you riding the bombing range with the bike park nearby, the days of riding up there are well gone.

Riding at the Bombing range is different to anything the sandpit has to offer, if you haven't tried riding in the dunes then you really are missing out.

[ktm84mxc]

Any soft terrain tire will do the job , some can handle road/gravel better like a Michelin S12xc . Only draw back is some of the tires don't come in 18 inch eg Pirelli 410 mud/sand.
Some swear by a Kenda Millville , I just use S12xc's as they can handle most terrains and wear well.

[andy 101]

Maybe Tony can enlighten you on the error of your ways, and yes I have been there before, bikes are no longer welcome up there.

[ktm84mxc]

Ahhhh the Bombing range used to have fun up there, it only seems like yesterday but in reality is 35+ years ago we used to play cat and mousse with the forestry rangers most weekends , we were half the reason the bike park came into existence .
There were urban tracks/trails all over Auckland eg the Concourse Henderson, New Lynn now a St Johns ambo station, Glenn Innes now East Tamaki Uni campus, Cascades rd Pakuranga, Barry's point tip, Redoubt rd subdivision etc

[andy 101]

Ahhhh the Bombing range used to have fun up there, it only seems like yesterday but in reality is 35+ years ago we used to play cat and mousse with the forestry rangers most weekends , we were half the reason the bike park came into existence .
There were urban tracks/trails all over Auckland eg the Concourse Henderson, New Lynn now a St Johns ambo station, Glenn Innes now East Tamaki Uni campus, Cascades rd Pakuranga, Barry's point tip, Redoubt rd subdivision etc

I remember being delt to by the cops a few times riding by the sewege ponds over the north shore before the subdivision went in there, unfortantly riding in places like that now is what gives dirtbike riders a bad name.

[BoristheBiter]

Riding at the Bombing range is different to anything the sandpit has to offer, if you haven't tried riding in the dunes then you really are missing out.

It's also illegal and one of the reasons the popo have been asked to target the beach.

[Danger Dave]

It's also illegal and one of the reasons the popo have been asked to target the beach.

To be fair it has been about 10 years since i have riden up there

[ktm84mxc]

Muriwai beach like most beaches is a class 3 road so you need a rego and wof to legally use it , in the past the cops have turned a blind eye but it only takes a few idiots to cause trouble.
The same happens down Kareotahe near Waiuku in fact any were you can take a bike/quad/4x4, the same apply's to ChCh braided rivers.
Simply saying it's illegal is differnt to stoping and catching people in the act.
Can remember when the bike park at Muriwai was free entry.

[Jonos]

Sorry guys didnt realise it was illegal e.t.c... bike park from now on!! cheers for the tyre reccomendations .


My tire is is still original so I assume it is a 100, so will go for a 110. I assume this relates to the width??


Will go to cycletreads tommorow and see whats available.

[gwynfryn]

you will find that sand requires a certain technique and changing your tyre may not make that much difference for you. For soft sand you need momentum, revs and correct body position , and don't back off!

I like a shinko 540 front and michilin s12 rear

[pete-blen]

New Lynn now a St Johns ambo station,

Was that the little dirt area across the stream from the cement push bike track... rode the bike around that also..:yes:
talking like 1977...:shit:... Along the coast behind Lynfeild was also a good area back then..

[Tazz]

Don't see it mentioned, but does dropping your tyre pressure/s have much effect on a bike like it does a car/4x4 for traction in sand?

[BoristheBiter]

Don't see it mentioned, but does dropping your tyre pressure/s have much effect on a bike like it does a car/4x4 for traction in sand?

Yes.
For sand I am running around 10psi on the back and 12psi on the front. More on the front due to going over tree roots, rocks etc.

[Tazz]

Yes.
For sand I am running around 10psi on the back and 12psi on the front. More on the front due to going over tree roots, rocks etc.

Schweet. Thought it should. I'd be doing that before replacing your tyre/s OP to see what difference you'll get out of the set you already have.

If it is a pain/you're too lazy to carry a gauge to deflate and check, you can get tyre deflators that go do a manually set PSI and are about the same size as a spare tyre tube (i.e. fit easily in your pocket). Or if you're real lazy just pull the valve right out and count XD, it's roughly 1 PSI a second

These are the expensive ones http://www.stauntyredeflators.com.au/ but there are cheaper sets about.

And I assume the tread patterns make the same difference on a bike to a 4wd as well, in which case the less aggressive the better. A lot of dudes just run bald tyres on beach buggies, so if you're rocking around on a dirt biased tyre at road pressures, you're probably wasting a lot of effort/gas/engine wear from the heat just digging a big canal/holes behind your bike.

[Wic_ed1]

If I'm running a 19" rear I will always run one of these for the sand pit Pirelli Scorpion MX410. I've even ridden desert storm and tussock buster on one and it held together real well. http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/motorcycle/sheet/scorpion_mx_soft_410.html

For an 18" rear I use the bridgestone M102, doesn't come close to the scorpion but it's the next best thing I can find. http://www.bridgestone.com/products/motorcycle_tires/products/motocross/index.html

I always run the M101 front regardless of what I put on the back for the sand pit.

Hope that helps.