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Wingnut
17th November 2013, 09:39
Hope he gets well again... This is something that (having hit a dog once) is always in the back of my mind whilst riding...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/9409694/Motorbiker-critical-after-hitting-sheep

actungbaby
17th November 2013, 10:07
Hope he gets well again... This is something that (having hit a dog once) is always in the back of my mind whilst riding...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/9409694/Motorbiker-critical-after-hitting-sheep

yes me too but it pass with time . not like its your fault so you know dont freet

about it buddy

slofox
17th November 2013, 10:35
Yeah, I know what you mean. I hit a sheep once. Once is enough...

G4L4XY
17th November 2013, 10:46
There is a corner on the way between whangamata/waihi where a family of wild chickens like to hangout....sometimes they like to hangout ON the road so seeing one of them suckers mid corner whilst ya hanging off the side of your bike is a real undie stainer.
I've narrowly missed one whilst 2up luckily was able to avoid it without riding off the side of the road down the cliff

Akzle
17th November 2013, 12:28
Yeah, I know what you mean. I hit a sheep once. Once is enough...

really? Wasnt for me. Had to run the cunt over twice at least.
Sheep are fuken stupid.

russd7
17th November 2013, 14:06
really? Wasnt for me. Had to run the cunt over twice at least.
Sheep are fuken stupid.

was thinking along similar lines, often only hitting them once isn't enough especially when they are kicking whilst ya trying to shear the buggers.

that said, i hope the rider makes a full recovery.

Wingnut
17th November 2013, 14:38
Down here there are many instances of Mr Joe Farmer, grazing his livestock in the road reserve with just a single strip of fence separating them from vehicles @ 100kph. I wonder how the liability side of things would go. Surely the farmer would have to fork out if their stock caused any incident that resulted in vehicle damage. Probably like getting blood from a stone though. Seeing how hard up the majority of Dairy Farmers are these days..... So keep an eye out for rouge cows....

Tazz
17th November 2013, 15:26
Ouch. Hope he pulls through. Just one of those shit timing things in life eh.


Hope he gets well again... This is something that (having hit a dog once) is always in the back of my mind whilst riding...


Almost hit a dog in the middle of the road coming around a corner at only 65k (100k zone) a few weeks back, and the owner tried to tell me off instead of her dog...:no:


Down here there are many instances of Mr Joe Farmer, grazing his livestock in the road reserve with just a single strip of fence separating them from vehicles @ 100kph. I wonder how the liability side of things would go. Surely the farmer would have to fork out if their stock caused any incident that resulted in vehicle damage. Probably like getting blood from a stone though. Seeing how hard up the majority of Dairy Farmers are these days..... So keep an eye out for rogue cows....

Not that I don't think it is the best idea to do that (you see it with horses too and fencing they could pretty much step over into traffic if spooked too) but just to state the obvious, you could always engage your grey matter and slow down a bit around them instead of carrying on at 100kph. Pretty sure you'd be lucky to come out alive let alone be worrying about vehicle.

Berries
17th November 2013, 15:34
So keep an eye out for rouge cows....
Why, do they lave less road sense than black and white ones?

Wingnut
17th November 2013, 15:40
Not that I don't think it is the best idea to do that (you see it with horses too and fencing they could pretty much step over into traffic if spooked too) but just to state the obvious, you could always engage your grey matter and slow down a bit around them instead of carrying on at 100kph. Pretty sure you'd be lucky to come out alive let alone be worrying about vehicle.

Not sure what you think I meant there but my point was simply regarding the liability side as surely farmers must be held accountable. We had a ute vs cow incident at work a few years back. Not sure what the outcome with that was. The insurance company sorted it all.

SMOKEU
17th November 2013, 16:15
Over in South Africa, I have a few relatives who have hit kaffirs on the motorways. The trouble with them is that at night they're nearly invisible, all you can see is a flock of eyes moving from one squatter camp to the next. At least most sheep are white, so they're easier to spot.

willytheekid
17th November 2013, 17:09
Poor Marty :(

Hope its a speedy recovery:yes:, sending my family's love and best wishes to his :love:

slofox
17th November 2013, 17:09
really? Wasnt for me. Had to run the cunt over twice at least.
Sheep are fuken stupid.

It ran away before I could get it again...:whistle:

Motu
17th November 2013, 17:14
I wonder how the liability side of things would go. Surely the farmer would have to fork out if their stock caused any incident that resulted in vehicle damage.

Up until a few years ago, the '90's anyway, the farmer had all the rights - if you hit a cow with your car and killed it, you had to pay for the cow, and he didn't have to pay for your car. Things have changed, but it pays not to hit big things.

Yesterday I came across some cows being let out onto the road, I stopped and asked the farmer where they were going. He said just down the road a bit, but just ride through them, so I did. This was a small mixed group, cows with swinging udders, calves and bulls with swinging balls. I was riding next to the big boys with balls and horns, but it's all cool - you watch what they are doing, they have their ears swivelling to keep track of you...just watch the body language and don't do anything to spook them.

Road kill
17th November 2013, 17:20
Not sure what you think I meant there but my point was simply regarding the liability side as surely farmers must be held accountable. We had a ute vs cow incident at work a few years back. Not sure what the outcome with that was. The insurance company sorted it all.

The accountability is all yours.
We don't invite you cocks into our area to play your little boy racer games,,,so fuck off.

Mental Trousers
17th November 2013, 17:31
If you're about to hit a sheep more throttle is the only way.

onearmedbandit
17th November 2013, 17:34
The accountability is all yours.
We don't invite you cocks into our area to play your little boy racer games,,,so fuck off.

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SMOKEU
17th November 2013, 17:44
The accountability is all yours.
We don't invite you cocks into our area to play your little boy racer games,,,so fuck off.

And we don't invite large domesticated animals onto the roads to dump excrement onto said roads, and create a big hazard by blocking traffic.

Oakie
17th November 2013, 18:29
I hit a sheep once.

I shit a heap once...

russd7
17th November 2013, 18:32
its quite simple really, most councils require the farmer to keep their roadsides clean and clear of grass, easiest way to do this is to graze the land, it is actually a pain in the ass but easier than wrecking mowers hitting trash that dimwits dump on the roadside, very rarely do farmers graze stock on busy roads as it is to risky and with cow prices the way they are not many farmers want to lose animals by having someone hit them. As has already been stated, the obvious thing is to slow down and not spook them, as for liability, if the farmer can prove that the animals were spooked by the vehicle driving or behaving like an idiot then the driver is at fault, and trust me its pretty obvious when animals have been spooked, the same for if some dickhead lets them loose but if they escape due to not being controlled properly then the farmer is at fault and yes one electric wire is sufficient, especially these days with the amount of current that runs through most modern electric fences, as for the comment about animals shitting on the road its quite simple, if you don't like it then stay in your own little insulated world in the city that all the hard up dairy farmers and associated staff and contractors subsidize for you.

R650R
17th November 2013, 18:42
Before we go vilifying farmers word is that it was a pet sheep from Camp David (local religious/youth camp). Rider very experienced and a safe competent road user, hope he gets well soon. As for slowing down, sheep are everywhere in this country. Worry more about the goats on Napier Wairoa rd, those savages would probably survive the impact and maul you afterwards!

Wingnut
17th November 2013, 19:13
The accountability is all yours.
We don't invite you cocks into our area to play your little boy racer games,,,so fuck off.

WTF are you on about....Its a fucken road!

Cant help but see the irony in your profile name :laugh:

Zedder
17th November 2013, 19:19
I shit a heap once...

Motorcycle safety levy's a heap o' shit.

Wingnut
17th November 2013, 19:57
Before we go vilifying farmers word is that it was a pet sheep from Camp David (local religious/youth camp). Rider very experienced and a safe competent road user, hope he gets well soon. As for slowing down, sheep are everywhere in this country. Worry more about the goats on Napier Wairoa rd, those savages would probably survive the impact and maul you afterwards!

Not pointing the finger at anyone. Just saw it on stuff.co.nz and it triggered some thought is all..... There are shitloads of hazards out there, cases like this one are probably few and far between.

Squiggles
17th November 2013, 21:05
Seeing how hard up the majority of Dairy Farmers are these days..... So keep an eye out for rouge cows....

Thursday evening two weeks back we came within a couple of feet of collecting a cow that had got out! :eek5: Ended up spending 15min herding it into a nearby paddock.

300weatherby
17th November 2013, 21:19
The accountability is all yours.
We don't invite you cocks into our area to play your little boy racer games,,,so fuck off.

On the way to a drilling job out the back of Tuatapre in a 40 series Landcruiser flatdeck towing a 1.5 ton compressor, sheep runs onto the road. Landcruiser 1, sheep 0. Chucked it on the back and took it with us. The boys were pleased to have fresh meat.

Berries
17th November 2013, 21:55
The accountability is all yours.
We don't invite you cocks into our area to play your little boy racer games,,,so fuck off.
First the fireworks, now this. Seeing as you have been having a bad couple of weeks I just wondered whether you were Len Brown?

Better post where 'your area' is so nobody strays there accidentally and uses 'your' road, we don't need another Deliverance incident.

reggie1198
17th November 2013, 23:44
There is a corner on the way between whangamata/waihi where a family of wild chickens like to hangout....sometimes they like to hangout ON the road so seeing one of them suckers mid corner whilst ya hanging off the side of your bike is a real undie stainer.
I've narrowly missed one whilst 2up luckily was able to avoid it without riding off the side of the road down the cliff


How do you you think the chicken feels, she's just "plucked" up the courage to answer that age old question, and now she'll never cross the road to find the answer.

Grubber
18th November 2013, 07:09
Thursday evening two weeks back we came within a couple of feet of collecting a cow that had got out! :eek5: Ended up spending 15min herding it into a nearby paddock.

Jeez what a good bastard.
You would be about the only person i know would have taken time to do soemthing like that.
Seriously deserve a medal. Well done!:rockon:

awa355
18th November 2013, 09:09
Yeah, I know what you mean. I hit on a sheep once. Once is enough...

Fixed that for ya Slo. it's a buggar when even sheep turn you down. :facepalm:

slofox
18th November 2013, 12:03
Fixed that for ya Slo. it's a buggar when even sheep turn you down. :facepalm:

I may have chosen the wrong sheep - it had a lamb at heel. :whistle:

pritch
18th November 2013, 16:19
I wonder how the liability side of things would go. Surely the farmer would have to fork out if their stock caused any incident that resulted in vehicle damage.

In some parts of the western world the farmer would be liable. In NZ the laws tend to favour farmers and miners so you might be lucky if the farmer didn't go you for the loss of his sheep?

pritch
18th November 2013, 16:44
Ended up spending 15min herding it into a nearby paddock.

Happens a fair bit out here on the rural rump. The mantra on country roads is "Expect the unexpected."

Phoned the Police about a herd of calves on on a bridge on SH3 one night, that phone call turned into a game of twenty questions.

Spent a large part of one lunch break with my gundog putting a loose sheep back in a paddock. OK, I put a Romney in with a flock of Perendales but better in there than on the road?

I admired an ad in the paper years ago, it was to the effect.
"The owner of the steer loose on Mangorei Rd should be aware that it is getting dangerously close to my freezer."

Erelyes
18th November 2013, 20:15
wrecking mowers hitting trash that dimwits dump on the roadside

Heard of a weedeater?

=cJ=
18th November 2013, 20:57
Heard of a weedeater?

When your road frontage (AKA long acre) is the thick end of a kilometer or more long...you'd be there a bloody long time.

Grashopper
18th November 2013, 21:25
Worry more about the goats on Napier Wairoa rd, those savages would probably survive the impact and maul you afterwards!

Yeah, saw those the other day. They were right next to the road and then ran off into the bushes. Scary shit. A couple of hours later on the way back they were out next to the road again. Wasn't a one time thing then :no:

Hope the rider will be ok soon.

Akzle
19th November 2013, 05:25
Heard of a weedeater?

yes. mine have four legs. and double as a food supply...

Frodo
19th November 2013, 16:22
Hope the rider will be ok soon.

Yes let's not forget that one of us was badly hurt out there the other day.
I was riding through the north Wairarapa on Friday and encountered some sheep and cattle on the road, so it was particularly poignant to read about this accident.
I wish him a speedy recovery.

R650R
19th November 2013, 17:59
Yeah, saw those the other day. They were right next to the road and then ran off into the bushes. Scary shit. A couple of hours later on the way back they were out next to the road again. Wasn't a one time thing then :no:

Hope the rider will be ok soon.

This place https://maps.google.co.nz/?ll=-39.062166,177.087207&spn=0.014695,0.033023&t=h&z=16 has always had a resident pack roaming about, last time I caught them they had moved a fair bit north from normal and got quite a fright out of it... There are quite a few places on Napier-Taupo road too where Stock lost from truck rollovers have established themselves in the wild, not to mention the domesticated cattle and horses up the summit that often escape... Don't go fast through here https://maps.google.co.nz/?ll=-39.082581,176.578188&spn=0.007345,0.016512&t=h&z=17 in the dark, might be some hamburger grazing in middle of road...

Frodo
19th November 2013, 20:09
Thanks for the advice. Will be taking the long way to Tauranga through one of those roads this weekend.