NZ Nationals race length

[Kickaha]

So it looks like they've cut race lengths on other classes to give the Supersport/Superbike riding faggots an extra race and a total of 40 laps racing while it looks like the rest of us for the same entry fee get to do 24 laps racing

Yep seems fair to me

[nodrog]

So it looks like they've cut race lengths on other classes to give the Supersport/Superbike riding faggots an extra race and a total of 40 laps racing while it looks like the rest of us for the same entry fee get to do 24 laps racing

Yep seems fair to me

choice! :niceone:

[Drew]

It's a conspiracy, at the request of type suppliers.

[Fast Eddie]

Awesome, always good to show favouritism.. its good for the sport as a whole.

[Fast Eddie]

should just make superbike races 2 laps, we already know whos gonna win.. Craig Syphillis followed by Mark Brandon Reid. why drag it out!

much more interesting racing gonna happen in other classes with new machines, new teams etc etc.. give them more laps

[Fast Eddie]

It's a conspiracy, at the request of type suppliers.

what type of supplier is that?

[jellywrestler]

So it looks like they've cut race lengths on other classes to give the Supersport/Superbike riding faggots an extra race and a total of 40 laps racing while it looks like the rest of us for the same entry fee get to do 24 laps racing

Yep seems fair to me

yip but there's two on a sidecar so effectively you get 48 laps for the same dollars so what are you whining about?

[nodrog]

You guys get tired after 2 laps anyway.

[jellywrestler]

should just make superbike races 2 laps, we already know whos gonna win.. Craig Syphillis followed by Mark Brandon Reid. why drag it out!

much more interesting racing gonna happen in other classes with new machines, new teams etc etc.. give them more laps

except jimmy smith was quicker at taupo last weekend that shirtlifter on an 08 bike with worn out continentals.....
there's a few more in the mix this year it's going to be busy at that end of the feild

[Fast Eddie]

yip but there's two on a sidecar so effectively you get 48 laps for the same dollars so what are you whining about?

ha, nice try but no. In fact I have to share my 24 laps that I pay for with some free loader hanging onto my bike! so I actually "effectively" get 12 laps.. its just getting worse and worse

can I just put lights and a plate on mine and using it on the road instead?

[Fast Eddie]

except jimmy smith was quicker at taupo last weekend that shirtlifter on an 08 bike with worn out continentals.....
there's a few more in the mix this year it's going to be busy at that end of the feild

jimmy who? whats a superbike... I think I'm falling asleep... better go watch some old TT footage..

[Fast Eddie]

You guys get tired after 2 laps anyway.

Well in Pig n Goobers case that is true.. not sure if they finished a single race at Ruapuna last weekend...

[wayne]

superbikes might have to stop and change bikes by about lap 9 or ten (tyre wear),
hope riders can count mm

[300weatherby]

So it looks like they've cut race lengths on other classes to give the Supersport/Superbike riding faggots an extra race and a total of 40 laps racing while it looks like the rest of us for the same entry fee get to do 24 laps racing

Yep seems fair to me

Really want to look into MNZ and "fair"?, calulate how much money they generate with the full race licence cost and the entry fee. Gotta pay for the hotels, flights about the place and the bar tabs somehow............

Supers and 600's have allways come first to them, I don't race in Clubmans, but still get quite pissed about their, arbitrary treatment and perceived lack of value, I imagine the sidecar mob feel the same about the sidecar mob.

[Wingnut]

Do they run sidecars at the Nationals....

[vinducati]

Maybe they should have a different charge.
ie: charge Supersport and Superbike class more?
Also as a spectator I really don't want to go to a National meeting and see clubmans.
Sorry, it's the truth.

[Drew]

Do they run sidecars at the Nationals....FUCK YEAH!

It's all about the skids man!

[jellywrestler]

Also as a spectator I really don't want to go to a National meeting and see clubmans.
Sorry, it's the truth.
maybe thens your time to go and have a look through the pits? There are a number of people who dont fit into the national classes for various reasons, ability or ineligible machines etc but still want to have a shot so if there's room it's still a valid class, other people are focussed on one class or two classes only and they cope, it's a sport after all.
big example is invers where there's a strong following of road racers due to the burt munro challenge but bikes for reasons stated earlier unable to race in points class, down there the biggest feild is usually clubbies

[Wingnut]

FUCK YEAH!

It's all about the skids man!

Where is the sarcastic font....

I think the sidecars could be really great from a spectator point of view if they had some numbers in the field. Last time I watched them at the nationals it was such a procession..... With massive gaps between each ummm bike... car?

[Drew]

Where is the sarcastic font....

I think the sidecars could be really great from a spectator point of view if they had some numbers in the field. Last time I watched them at the nationals it was such a procession..... With massive gaps between each ummm bike... car?
Not sure of numbers this season for the nats. Someone said there were gonna be 19 of us at the Suzuki series though.

They're bikes by the way.

[Kickaha]

Where is the sarcastic font....

I think the sidecars could be really great from a spectator point of view if they had some numbers in the field. Last time I watched them at the nationals it was such a procession..... With massive gaps between each ummm bike... car?

19 entered for Wanganui, should be better numbers for Nationals this year compared to last for our three short races

[gixerracer]

Not sure of numbers this season for the nats. Someone said there were gonna be 19 of us at the Suzuki series though.

They're bikes by the way.

Motorbikes have TWO wheels, Tricycles have 3

[jellywrestler]

Where is the sarcastic font....

I think the sidecars could be really great from a spectator point of view if they had some numbers in the field. Last time I watched them at the nationals it was such a procession..... With massive gaps between each ummm bike... car?

the biggest threat this year is the ferry dilemna, having said that it's not a lot of years ago there were i think 23 machines at timaru for the first round of the nats, they had some troubled times a couple of years ago but back on form now just make sure you're there......

[gixerracer]

except jimmy smith was quicker at taupo last weekend that shirtlifter on an 08 bike with worn out continentals.....
there's a few more in the mix this year it's going to be busy at that end of the feild

Chicken legs did not go faster than shirtlifter and was on Pirellis new stuff not worn out contis:motu:

[jellywrestler]

Chicken legs did not go faster than shirtlifter and was on Pirellis new stuff not worn out contis:motu:

you bite well; i heard you were on michelins at the nationals at taupo............

[300weatherby]

19 entered for Wanganui, should be better numbers for Nationals this year compared to last for our three short races

Be good if you can achieve that, normally don't watch because four rigs circulating on different points of the track has little appeal, but a bunch of them, having battles and a bit of push and shove could be fun. Any girl based rigs on the go? my daughter has this nutty idea about having a bash as a swinger ( dirty little schoolboy sniggers about now I bet.......)

I see your buddy Waters out last friday to have a practise on another rig, you scared?:corn:

[Billy]

the biggest threat this year is the ferry dilemna, having said that it's not a lot of years ago there were i think 23 machines at timaru for the first round of the nats, they had some troubled times a couple of years ago but back on form now just make sure you're there......

Not quite true,

The biggest threat is whether there will be enough rigs left in the country to make up the numbers for the North Island rounds

[Kickaha]

Any girl based rigs on the go? my daughter has this nutty idea about having a bash as a swinger
Only Tracey and Tina on Pinky, we can probably organise a few laps for her one test day

I see your buddy Waters out last friday to have a practise on another rig, you scared?:corn:
I'm not scared of that big poof, he didn't ever beat us on the last one he rode

The biggest threat is whether there will be enough rigs left in the country to make up the numbers for the North Island rounds
There will be, although we're not sure it's worth heading North for such short races

[jellywrestler]

Be good if you can achieve that, normally don't watch because four rigs circulating on different points of the track has little appeal, but a bunch of them, having battles and a bit of push and shove could be fun. Any girl based rigs on the go? my daughter has this nutty idea about having a bash as a swinger ( dirty little schoolboy sniggers about now I bet.......)

I see your buddy Waters out last friday to have a practise on another rig, you scared?:corn:

so you've only been to nationals about once in the last ten years then? fairs fair, they did have a rough patch but seem to have pulled themselves out of it although from what billy is saying......?????

[Billy]

Only Tracey and Tina on Pinky, we can probably organise a few laps for her one test day

I'm not scared of that big poof, he didn't ever beat us on the last one he rode

There will be, although we're not sure it's worth heading North for such short races

Not sure they will be that short at Manfeild but I won't know that for sure til Monday when I get their final format,Taupo and Timaru both have severe time restraints and with the Postie TTs at Taupo,They don't have time for a support class at all,MCI elected to run 2 support classes plus the extra GP class,Guess we're never gonna please everybody and certainly aren't in a position to start telling the tracks how long we're going to be racing.On that note,It is what it is,If it's not good enough then your entry may be the one that sinks the chairs in the North Island.

[jellywrestler]

If it's not good enough then your entry may be the one that sinks the chairs in the North Island. he'll just tell you the propellor fell off in cook straight or sumtin like that...

[Kickaha]

If it's not good enough then your entry may be the one that sinks the chairs in the North Island.
There should be enough for NI rounds, there are at least 3 from here going up and possibly 4-5 which will be the most I have seen go North since I've been racing them

[Drew]

We opted to do the Nats over going to Eastern Creek. To try and make sure numbers were good for the Nats. I certainly hope everyone else in the country with a running chair is gonna do them.

[Kickaha]

I certainly hope everyone else in the country with a running chair is gonna do them.

Well you'd hope they would

But this is meant to be more about the Supersport/Superbike riding fags getting preferential treatment at the expense of the other classes

[Drew]

Well you'd hope they would

But this is meant to be more about the Supersport/Superbike riding fags getting preferential treatment at the expense of the other classes

I'm keen to see the Superbike championship play out this year. I think more time on track for supersport is a waste of everyone else's time though.

The field gets good numbers, but longer races will do little but spread the bikes more.

[wayne]

its about tv coverage for the sponsors

[Robert Taylor]

Chicken legs did not go faster than shirtlifter and was on Pirellis new stuff not worn out contis:motu:

And Craig was also on quite worn hard compound Dunlops. Nothing against Jimmy but I know who Id put my money on.

[jellywrestler]

The field gets good numbers, but longer races will do little but spread the bikes more. and it wont for sidecars?

[jellywrestler]

And Craig was also on quite worn hard compound Dunlops. Nothing against Jimmy but I know who Id put my money on.

fuck you bite well too, but hang on didn't craig use five tyres over two days, whats with this worn shit, you're starting to sound like J H now, it's always the bikes fault...

[Drew]

and it wont for sidecars?I'm don't actually have a problem with the shortened races for chairs. I'm more likely to be able to go flat out the whole race, the shorterer they are.

[scrivy]

I'm don't actually have a problem with the shortened races for chairs. I'm more likely to be able to go flat out the whole race, the shorterer they are.

I agree, I'd rather do 4 x 6 sprint lap races......

[Robert Taylor]

fuck you bite well too, but hang on didn't craig use five tyres over two days, whats with this worn shit, you're starting to sound like J H now, it's always the bikes fault...

No! If you check with Craig he is awaiting new tyres for the season, supply is not instant. So he has been using a mix of less than suitable compounds and worn tyres

[jellywrestler]

No! If you check with Craig he is awaiting new tyres for the season, supply is not instant. So he has been using a mix of less than suitable compounds and worn tyres

hook line and sinker............

[nodrog]

hook line and sinker............

are you my uncle ....... Bully?

[jellywrestler]

are you my uncle ....... Bully?

with my build, try eithiopia, you might find a better genetic match there...........

[Kickaha]

its about tv coverage for the sponsors

What sponsors and what TV coverage are we getting for the Nationals?

[Drew]

What sponsors and what TV coverage are we getting for the Nationals?"Don't mention the war"!

[Robert Taylor]

hook line and sinker............

Just correcting incorrect statements

[jellywrestler]

Just correcting incorrect statements

you forgot to add a fullstop Robert

[Robert Taylor]

you forgot to add a fullstop Robert

Stop. For that I will fall on my sword . Stop.

[Gremlin]

The field gets good numbers, but longer races will do little but spread the bikes more.
Oh I dunno about that. Last time we tried an endurance race at Pukie I had 8 lazy bikers parked up at my corner after they all wanted a rest :rolleyes:

[Billy]

South Island Gold cup,

Entry forms for the 3rd and final round of the South Island Gold cup(South Island championship),Will be available form the MNZ website from this afternoon,This meeting combined with rounds 1 and 2 of the NZSBK series make up a genuine stand alone recognised championship.

[nodrog]

with my build, try eithiopia, you might find a better genetic match there...........

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[jellywrestler]

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isn't that the pits at HD early on???

[RobGassit]

isn't that the pits at HD early on???[/QUOTE]

Invercargill. I recognise the dunnies....

[Kickaha]

Invercargill. I recognise the dunnies....
Their roof is the best viewing platform at that track (for the racing)

[300weatherby]

Their roof is the best viewing platform at that track (for the racing)

The best viewing platform at that track is from behind the visor! great track, shit location.

[Deano]

Do SBK and SS get any more track time, or is it just the number of laps? I can't be bothered working it out after a couple of beers.


We opted to do the Nats over going to Eastern Creek. To try and make sure numbers were good for the Nats. I certainly hope everyone else in the country with a running chair is gonna do them.

Thats a fatuous argument isn't it ? Could you and Alan afford to go to Eastern Creek bro ? Has Jodie been doing overtime. :shutup:

[Drew]

Thats a fatuous argument isn't it ? Could you and Alan afford to go to Eastern Creek bro ? Has Jodie been doing overtime. :shutup:
Eastern Creek would have been heaps cheaper ya dick.

[Deano]

Eastern Creek would have been heaps cheaper ya dick.

I was just giving ya shit of course but really ? I guess you wouldn't need to replace the shoes on the rape dungeon LOL

What would it have cost to do EC ?

[Drew]

I was just giving ya shit of course but really ?

What would it have cost to do EC ?

Talk to ya about it in a less public arena over a beer next Thursday bro.

[Kickaha]

Do SBK and SS get any more track time, or is it just the number of laps?
They get both

[gixerracer]

They get both

Incorrect!
They get no more time on track infact maybe less than the last 7 years! We have had our Saturday arvo Q replaced by a 10 lap race which will be less time on track than the apporx 20 min Q
Every year was 3 rides on Saturday FOR ALL CLASSES nothing has changed except 600s and Supers get one less practice whic has been replaced with a sprint race

[Kickaha]

Incorrect!
They get no more time on track infact maybe less than the last 7 years! We have had our Saturday arvo Q replaced by a 10 lap race which will be less time on track than the apporx 20 min Q
Every year was 3 rides on Saturday FOR ALL CLASSES nothing has changed except 600s and Supers get one less practice whic has been replaced with a sprint race

Last year there was 2 practice sessions + qualifying which was roughly 45 minutes total (Mylaps) + 1 x 13 and 1 x15 lap races

This year Superbike 1 x 20 minute practice & 1 x 20 minute qualifying + 10 lap race + 2 x 15 lap races

[Drew]

Incorrect!
They get no more time on track infact maybe less than the last 7 years! We have had our Saturday arvo Q replaced by a 10 lap race which will be less time on track than the apporx 20 min Q
Every year was 3 rides on Saturday FOR ALL CLASSES nothing has changed except 600s and Supers get one less practice whic has been replaced with a sprint raceIf you would just go slower in the race, you'd get more time on track!

I reckon the theory will catch on.