I'm thinking about Hogs. Advice?

[Theantidote]

returned to riding this year after a spell caging it...went straight onto the xv1100 coz i'm not allergic to country of origin and love cruising rather than racing...but now here's the rub...ever since i was a kid i always wanted a harley...still kinda drool when i hear or see a nice one spinning past...
so given that a newbie is outta the question (budget wise) what is the oldest model i should be looking at and what should i watch out for in terms of known factory fuck ups?
i'm quite keen on the sportees as i think they offer a good entry point without being too wanky...
any tips would be cool...oh i like to spend a good few hours in the saddle at a time and would rather ride than polish...

[Akzle]

q) thinking about hog's...advice???

a) dont.

[Theantidote]

q) thinking about hog's...advice???

a) dont.

lol...:msn-wink:

[AllanB]

Buy what you like and can afford.

Just don't forget to 'wave' once you buy your hog.

[Theantidote]

Buy what you like and can afford.

Just don't forget to 'wave' once you buy your hog.

i wave to anyone...even cyclists and my friends on scooters...but if i take my hands off the bars wont something fall off????

[RDJ]

"Buying what you like and can afford" is the best buying advice in a nutshell.

I bought an '04 Sporty for a 6-month (turning out 15+-month) assignment in OZ as it was actually cheaper than taking one of my bikes from NZ to Sydney and back again. I am used to bigger bikes, but the Sportster is excellent. Nimble around town (OK that's relative to an RV90 or Vespa) and easy on the gas mileage, lots of torque, and still more than good enough to sling panniers over the back, gear up and ride SYD-BNE-SYD on a 4-day 'weekend'. Reliable for me - only replaced the battery as it had been stored too long, and front disc pads as I use the front brakes a lot more than most cruiser riders (it seems). Try it, if you don't like it there are many more bikes all over the place. And many are more expensive!

[Theantidote]

"Buying what you like and can afford" is the best buying advice in a nutshell.

I bought an '04 Sporty for a 6-month (turning out 15+-month) assignment in OZ as it was actually cheaper than taking one of my bikes from NZ to Sydney and back again. I am used to bigger bikes, but the Sportster is excellent. Nimble around town (OK that's relative to an RV90 or Vespa) and easy on the gas mileage, lots of torque, and still more than good enough to sling panniers over the back, gear up and ride SYD-BNE-SYD on a 4-day 'weekend'. Reliable for me - only replaced the battery as it had been stored too long, and front disc pads as I use the front brakes a lot more than most cruiser riders (it seems). Try it, if you don't like it there are many more bikes all over the place. And many are more expensive!

cool man thanks for that...i've done the run from syd to byron and back in a car...fuck that's a longgggggggggg drive...can imagine it be awesome on a bike...
i think i might have to agree...buy what u can afford...my biggest concern i guess and maybe i should ask the question...running maintenance and mechanical work...is it easy enough to do yourself??? the xv is okay once you get your head around why they make such complicated ways of getting to stuff...after that the basics are a walk in the park...are harleys similar in that respect???

[RDJ]

This is my 4th Harley (2 '04 V-rods - one VRSCA in US (turbo'd) and one VRSCB in NZ, and an '02 Dyna 'bagger' FXDXT in NZ. The V-rods I get all the servicing done at shops, the water-cooled engine, the electronics (not just electrics) and the tools and expertise needed are well beyond me. The older-style air-cooled Dyna and Sportster are much more user-friendly to service and do minor stuff on like lights, brakes etc. Wheels, tires, major work would go to the shops still.

That said, none of my Harleys have ever stranded me anywhere (and that includes rides from Wanganui to Cape Reinga and back, Phoenix to Sturgis and then all over the Black Hills and via Colorado to L.A. to leave the bike stored there, other fast day runs (L.A. to Phoenix, Phoenix to Route 66 etc)) so I am very happy with their reliability.

You'll see a lot of posters commenting on Harley's alleged inherent unreliability and oil leaks etc. None of mine suffer from either - and I bought them all used (although the Dyna was advertised as 'used' with only 130 km and 1 year's previous ownership by 1 owner in Singapore where I bought it in '03, go figure).

The H-D OEM service and parts manuals are well worth the investment too. Harley mech stuff on the older bikes sounds similar to what you say about the XV, IMO. Good luck with whatever you buy.

[Theantidote]

This is my 4th Harley (2 '04 V-rods - one VRSCA in US (turbo'd) and one VRSCB in NZ, and an

The H-D OEM service and parts manuals are well worth the investment too. Harley mech stuff on the older bikes sounds similar to what you say about the XV, IMO. Good luck with whatever you buy.

thanks for that man...good to get some bullshit free feedback...it'll be a wee way down the track b4 i head down the new bike road...i need to kill the one i got first before the wife will even consider INVESTING in another set of 2 wheels...

sounz like you've had some good miles under yer belt and in no hurry to slow down...good on ya and stay upright...thanks again

[yod]

buy a HONDA

[AllanB]

I'd presume a modern HD is little different from a modern Jap bike in regards to servicing. They have been fuel injected for ages the lifters will be auto adjusting like a car (correct me if wrong), electronic ignition (hell no wire throttle on some). So servicing is what - oils (tranny and engine are separate) plugs will be every 24000 or so like other bikes, air filter once a blue moon. Tyres and brakes are consumables regardless of the bike and the cruiser tyres way outlast sporty rubber.

Anything pre evo motor (mid 80's) will live to the old reputation but it is not justified on the engines after this. Like the Triumphs of old (or any maker for that matter) things have come a long way.

I did spy a brand new HONDA 750 cruiser in the CHCH dealers for $9999 last week ........ not a Harley, but cheap as chips!

[Theantidote]

buy a HONDA

cool...loving hondas for sure...had an old school late 80's cruiser vt500...awesome bike...loved every k on it...but i think the next one will b for the romance of fuck it i deserve it...

[Theantidote]

I'd presume a modern HD is little different from a modern Jap bike in regards to servicing. They have been fuel injected for ages the lifters will be auto adjusting like a car (correct me if wrong), electronic ignition (hell no wire throttle on some). So servicing is what - oils (tranny and engine are separate) plugs will be every 24000 or so like other bikes, air filter once a blue moon. Tyres and brakes are consumables regardless of the bike and the cruiser tyres way outlast sporty rubber.

Anything pre evo motor (mid 80's) will live to the old reputation but it is not justified on the engines after this. Like the Triumphs of old (or any maker for that matter) things have come a long way.

I did spy a brand new HONDA 750 cruiser in the CHCH dealers for $9999 last week ........ not a Harley, but cheap as chips!

yeah...but me thinks the newer ones are a little more than i can justify...given that vehicles are really only toys and don't usually appreciate in value i'm thinking i'll be looking at as late a model as i can afford...so that may be a little more old school than electric everything...and for 10k i'd definitely be spoilt for choice regardless of make...
thanks again for the honest opinions people...

[trumpy]

Well I bought one of these (with some trepidation I will admit) and I love it. With a few improvements (suspension mods, pipe, Power Commander) it has been a surprisingly capable bike both on the straight and bendy bits. No it won't outrun or outhandle an R1 or similar but that's not what it's about. Instead it's abnoxiously loud, pig iron heavy and the horsepower is er, gentle but I have a ball every time I ride it. Horses for courses I guess..

[ellipsis]

...I have no idea what I did to deserve a HD, but it must have been bad...

[skippa1]

Well I bought one of these (with some trepidation I will admit) and I love it. With a few improvements (suspension mods, pipe, Power Commander) it has been a surprisingly capable bike both on the straight and bendy bits. No it won't outrun or outhandle an R1 or similar but that's not what it's about. Instead it's abnoxiously loud, pig iron heavy and the horsepower is er, gentle but I have a ball every time I ride it. Horses for courses I guess..

I was going to buy one of these, the only thing that stopped me was the fuel range

[trumpy]

I was going to buy one of these, the only thing that stopped me was the fuel range

Yep, that is a bit of a downside. I get about 220kms and after that it becomes a push bike. You get used to it quite quickly and then start to add a little planning to your rides. So far hasn't been a problem, except that one time.........:facepalm:

[Theantidote]

Well I bought one of these (with some trepidation I will admit) and I love it. With a few improvements (suspension mods, pipe, Power Commander) it has been a surprisingly capable bike both on the straight and bendy bits. No it won't outrun or outhandle an R1 or similar but that's not what it's about. Instead it's abnoxiously loud, pig iron heavy and the horsepower is er, gentle but I have a ball every time I ride it. Horses for courses I guess..

nice looking bike mr trumpy...i was gonna aim for something a little less cafe racerish (seat wise) and a lot more laid back...but lovin the blacked out bits...my viagra has way too much chrome thrown around the place...

[Theantidote]

Yep, that is a bit of a downside. I get about 220kms and after that it becomes a push bike. You get used to it quite quickly and then start to add a little planning to your rides. So far hasn't been a problem, except that one time.........:facepalm:

my current viagra has similar fuel range, and in new zealand who the fuck cares...it's not like you'll ever b hours and hours from a servo...and with planning and a fuel gauge that works no problem...plus after 200 k it's gotta be coffee time anyhoo...

[Theantidote]

...I have no idea what I did to deserve a HD, but it must have been bad...

i've tried being good, and i've tried being bad now all i got left is ugly and old...wonder if that'll work

[RDJ]

As the saying goes, old age and treachery generally win over youth and enthusiasm, so we've got that going for us yes?

:banana:

[Theantidote]

As the saying goes, old age and treachery generally win over youth and enthusiasm, so we've got that going for us yes?

:banana:

i do like that one...thanks for sharing...i'll file it somewhere for the future...

[Theantidote]

www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-665743705.htm

this is more in my price range...and i'm a weee bit partial to mini apes...not sure if the colour works but i'm not so fussy...now to sell my other bike, me scooter and the old standard 10 in the garage we'll b rock'n'roll

[Banditbandit]

Buy one of these instead ...

290253

Same sensastion .. less noise to annoy the rest of us and no pollution ...

(Oh yeah . and don't get in the way on the road either ...)

[Tigadee]

my viagra has way too much bone thrown around the place...

Fixed that for ya... :shifty:

[Theantidote]

Buy one of these instead ...

290253

Same sensastion .. less noise to annoy the rest of us and no pollution ...

(Oh yeah . and don't get in the way on the road either ...)

thanks for that...i'd seriously doubt that'll get me where i want to go but hei could be fun...

[Theantidote]

Fixed that for ya... :shifty:

thanks mr tigs....:niceone:

[BIG DOUG]

ok if I was you I would be looking at a sporty from 95 on as these are 5 speed as the opposed to the 4 speed in the add and they where a bit better,as for reliablility my 99 dyna has only left me stranded once when a coil wire broke and this bike has done 180 thousand kms and I also have an xr1200 and that has just clocked up 75 thousand kms and it has only needed a regulator and a clutch basket as I've done a few track days so It gets a hard time as an aside I always read from mostly jap bike riders that harley riders don't ride there bikes much and I have to say when I'm out on the open roads I tend to see more harleys out and about than jap bikes go figure.

[Scouse]

returned to riding this year after a spell caging it...went straight onto the xv1100 coz i'm not allergic to country of origin and love cruising rather than racing...but now here's the rub...ever since i was a kid i always wanted a harley...still kinda drool when i hear or see a nice one spinning past...
so given that a newbie is outta the question (budget wise) what is the oldest model i should be looking at and what should i watch out for in terms of known factory fuck ups?
i'm quite keen on the sportees as i think they offer a good entry point without being too wanky...
any tips would be cool...oh i like to spend a good few hours in the saddle at a time and would rather ride than polish...I would go with a Night rod special plenty of power good brakes and plenty comfortable on long hours in the sadle this one looks like good buying http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-645113141.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well I bought one of these (with some trepidation I will admit) and I love it. With a few improvements (suspension mods, pipe, Power Commander) it has been a surprisingly capable bike both on the straight and bendy bits. No it won't outrun or outhandle an R1 or similar but that's not what it's about. Instead it's abnoxiously loud, pig iron heavy and the horsepower is er, gentle but I have a ball every time I ride it. Horses for courses I guess..

Still my fav Harley ever! (well apart from a gen XR750...but I'll NEVER get to own one of those).

[ruaphu]

returned to riding this year after a spell caging it...went straight onto the xv1100 coz i'm not allergic to country of origin and love cruising rather than racing...but now here's the rub...ever since i was a kid i always wanted a harley...still kinda drool when i hear or see a nice one spinning past...
so given that a newbie is outta the question (budget wise) what is the oldest model i should be looking at and what should i watch out for in terms of known factory fuck ups?
i'm quite keen on the sportees as i think they offer a good entry point without being too wanky...
any tips would be cool...oh i like to spend a good few hours in the saddle at a time and would rather ride than polish...

Anything late model and well maintained, just remember the three B's "Bigger's Better Bud" liddle harleys are not worth the chop, all puff and dissapointing to say the least.

Another option may be a metric cruiser, some of these can sound bloody awesome with the right pipes. I had a 98 Suzie LC1500, black and chrome, all kitted out, stage three tuning (available dirt cheap from the states, Gman industries) and fitted with Cobra slash back pipes. Went like a train, sounded a whole heap better than most yanky iron and was bullet proof reliable. Debadged, hard to tell it was a Jappa eh.

We only recently traded it for an 2005 2000cc Kawasaki Vulcan cruiser all kitted out, it's behemouth big, loud, long and wide, like riding a train with handle bars with more torque than an Aussie tank and still gets 40MPG. A third of the price of a harley, lots of chrome, comfort, reliable as and a hoot to ride. Cheers Ando

[Dangsta]

I'd been looking at Harley's for the best part of a year. Just seemed too pricey and the newer big blocks were waaaaayyy out of my comfort $$$ range. I kept looking though and learned quite a lot in the process. I got close a couple of times and was looking at an '03 fxdxt or wideglide but as soon as I was about to pull the trigger, I'd realise the bike just wasn't exactly what I wanted and I wasn't prepared to "make do". Fair to say I rode a lot of different modes and it got to be a bit of an obsession.

On a whim I started looking at Victory's and got drawn to the 8 Ball models. Within a week of seeing one for sale, I owned it. Best move I ever made. Fantastic bike. I'm a convert and am pretty sure they're the only bike I'll ever own from now on. While I still appreciate them, I've no desire to ride or own any other make of bike.

[Theantidote]

I would go with a Night rod special plenty of power good brakes and plenty comfortable on long hours in the sadle this one looks like good buying http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-645113141.htm

thanks mr scouse...i hear what you're saying...as a not so short nor so tall dude i'm not sure about those...i saw someone my height not long ago on one and it looked just a bit weird...(says me on the wee viagra)...

[skippa1]

thanks mr scouse...i hear what you're saying...as a not so short nor so tall dude i'm not sure about those...i saw someone my height not long ago on one and it looked just a bit weird...(says me on the wee viagra)...
I'm 5'8" and ride one. Easy reach to the ground flat footed. What do you care what u look like for? It's what you feel that counts

[Theantidote]

Anything late model and well maintained, just remember the three B's "Bigger's Better Bud" liddle harleys are not worth the chop, all puff and dissapointing to say the least.

Another option may be a metric cruiser, some of these can sound bloody awesome with the right pipes. I had a 98 Suzie LC1500, black and chrome, all kitted out, stage three tuning (available dirt cheap from the states, Gman industries) and fitted with Cobra slash back pipes. Went like a train, sounded a whole heap better than most yanky iron and was bullet proof reliable. Debadged, hard to tell it was a Jappa eh.



hei thanks mr ando...really appreciate the feedback...i'm a big fan of metric cruisers and always have been...this next one i guess is to satisfy my long held dream of owning something from a childhood fantasy i guess...yep there are some bad ass metrics out there (not sure my viagra counts) and they're really cool and all but i dunno man...a hog just seems like something i need to have at least once in my life...i think you're on the money with the three b's...but seen as i'm only a frail old bugger a weener hog probably could still haul my hairy arse at a reasonable speed and with a bit of comfort to boot...

[skippa1]

I'd been looking at Harley's for the best part of a year. Just seemed too pricey and the newer big blocks were waaaaayyy out of my comfort $$$ range. I kept looking though and learned quite a lot in the process. I got close a couple of times and was looking at an '03 fxdxt or wideglide but as soon as I was about to pull the trigger, I'd realise the bike just wasn't exactly what I wanted and I wasn't prepared to "make do". Fair to say I rode a lot of different modes and it got to be a bit of an obsession.

On a whim I started looking at Victory's and got drawn to the 8 Ball models. Within a week of seeing one for sale, I owned it. Best move I ever made. Fantastic bike. I'm a convert and am pretty sure they're the only bike I'll ever own from now on. While I still appreciate them, I've no desire to ride or own any other make of bike.
Believe me, it wears off when you find out how useless the Victory after sales support is how hard parts are to get and how the fuckin things drag on the ground every time you try to lean it over.

i thought the same as you, wouldn't consider one now. It only took 12 months

get a v rod

[Theantidote]

i kinda sound like a wannker sometimes when i try to explain why i think a hog might b me next ride...sorry about that...i just enjoy riding and if it's based on miles for smiles well it might be worth it...

[Theantidote]

I'm 5'8" and ride one. Easy reach to the ground flat footed. What do you care what u look like for? It's what you feel that counts

true all dat mr skippa...thanks man...i'm going for feeling like riding a hole lot with a big ass grin on my face from ear to ear to the point where my face fukin hurts like a bastard...

[AllanB]

I'd have thought HD parts were two a penny online - no idea how the NZ importer is in regards to supply.

[skippa1]

I'd have thought HD parts were two a penny online - no idea how the NZ importer is in regards to supply.

They are, Victory however:no:

[Theantidote]

Believe me, it wears off when you find out how useless the Victory after sales support is how hard parts are to get and how the fuckin things drag on the ground every time you try to lean it over.

i thought the same as you, wouldn't consider one now. It only took 12 months

get a v rod

i like the look of the 8 balls and the victory story is cool...but yeah after sales service is kinda important...even tho i'll be doing what i can in terms of basics...but yeah getting bits is kinda important...

[ruaphu]

Yep I see your point, having the bike of your dreams at some stage is essential to having a full life, lol. The ole viagra doesn't quite cut it eh.

One thing HD does do is a ton of styles. Do remember the three b's. Ya can get some decent cubes in the smaller frames, it is well worth it.

Later model the better and ensure the cosmetics are up to scratch too, nothing worse than pitted rusted chrome, costs a ton to fix. A few mates HD's have cost them a small fortune putting this aspect right.

Take care have fun finding a decent ride eh, oh make you flick is decent pics of your new ride too eh.

Should ya pass us less fortunate bikers on your new HD beast do make sure u flick us the finger...... No wait! I mean a wave eh, lol
Cheers Ando.


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[ratusratus]

get any Harley mate.....Jap bikes are shit and victorys are ugly

[Crasherfromwayback]

Believe me, it wears off when you find out how useless the Victory after sales support is how hard parts are to get and how the fuckin things drag on the ground every time you try to lean it over.

i thought the same as you, wouldn't consider one now. It only took 12 months

get a v rod

Let alone the fact that your old Victory has cracked it's cyl head. Again.

[skippa1]

Let alone the fact that your old Victory has cracked it's cyl head. Again.

victory = defeat
Good chat on the phone Pete. Looks like I did trade at the right time, shit outcome for you guys, reinforces my view of Victory.

[Crasherfromwayback]

victory = defeat
Good chat on the phone Pete. Looks like I did trade at the right time, shit outcome for you guys, reinforces my view of Victory.

Yeah cheers for the call mate! Yeah good luck/timing for you...one of those bad timing/unlucky things for us. That's life/business!

[Big Dave]

get any Harley mate.....Jap bikes are shit and victorys are ugly

I remember when you were the Trump guy.

[Wingnut]

get any Harley mate.....Jap bikes are shit and victorys are ugly

Oxymoron much....

[AD345]

Just to leap into the looming threadjack

I've owned (and still do) Victory's for 5 years. close to 50,000 miles and not a single problem

Both of them had some a mixture of Victory and aftermarket accessories - including a full rake kit for the Kingpin that worked a treat - and looked fantastic. The interweb makes the world your oyster

The Kingpin used to scrape the boards a bit but once I got the Highball - which is a whole inch LOWER - I finally figured out that it wasn't the bike, it was me. Managed to do the whole Coro loop the other day without a single touch. It hasn't slowed me up either

oh and ratus, ya never mentioned my bike looked ugly when you saw it a few years back. Mutsa mumbled, my hearing is pretty bad.. ;)

[skippa1]

Just to leap into the looming threadjack

I've owned (and still do) Victory's for 5 years. close to 50,000 miles and not a single problem


The Kingpin used to scrape the boards a bit but once I got the Highball - which is a whole inch LOWER - I finally figured out that it wasn't the bike, it was me. Managed to do the whole Coro loop the other day without a single touch. It hasn't slowed me up either


Lucky you having no problems

in regard to scrapping, the piss poor lean angle is what it is. You might find you have slowed up unless your lines were shit before and now you are riding using a better approach to corners. Either way, they just don't do twists fast

[AD345]

Lucky you having no problems

in regard to scrapping, the piss poor lean angle is what it is. You might find you have slowed up unless your lines were shit before and now you are riding using a better approach to corners. Either way, they just don't do twists fast

I'd say it's more that you were unlucky rather than me being lucky. None of the 40 odd Vic owners that I know have had any problems beyond a few (3) broken clutch cables. That's not bad going

It sounds like you had a bit of a lemon ( don't know exactly what the issue was but it really doesn't matter - it sucks, I understand) but it is certainly not the norm with Vics

Most cruisers have pretty crap lean angles - granted the Vics are particularly low in some models, especially the later Vegas framed bikes, but my lines and pace haven't attracted any negative comment nor do I struggle to keep up, now or previously. I figured just figured out that moving MY centre of mass/gravity is a lot better than trying to grind it out on the frame

It does take a bit more work though

[carbonhed]

Most cruisers have pretty crap lean angles - granted the Vics are particularly low in some models, especially the later Vegas framed bikes, but my lines and pace haven't attracted any negative comment nor do I struggle to keep up, now or previously. I figured just figured out that moving MY centre of mass/gravity is a lot better than trying to grind it out on the frame

It does take a bit more work though

So you're hanging off the Highball?

[AD345]

So you're hanging off the Highball?


"Hanging" might be a stretch.

I do have a fair amount of....uhh...mass so I "swing" off the sides. Basically push my knee out and lean down and in to the corner. My arse is still pretty much on the seat but it's amazing how much less lean I need from the bike to still get a good corner radius.

Now - before anyone gets excited it should be noted that even in my most strenuous moment my knee is probably still half a metre off the ground. It's just that the centre of mass has moved and the bike doesn't have to lean over so much.

It means I can use my measly 4.7 inches of clearance to maximum benefit - plus get some exercise!

[Dangsta]

Believe me, it wears off when you find out how useless the Victory after sales support is how hard parts are to get and how the fuckin things drag on the ground every time you try to lean it over.

i thought the same as you, wouldn't consider one now. It only took 12 months

get a v rod

If you're in New Plymouth, you're not the guy who had the Hammer 8 ball are you? Shit, I was dead jealous when I saw it. Tell you what bro, I'm still happy with my Vic and to date, I've had no trouble sourcing parts (just got them shipped in apart from the oil and filter which I got down the road in Palmy). The V/Night/Street Rods are about the only ones (apart from the Sporty's but they can fuck right off) that I've not test ridden but ironically when I sat on one it felt pretty good. I might just have a blat on one next time I'm near a dealer as the later models are pretty affordable. Thanks man, if the Vic does get on my nerves I might just take your advice.

[Dangsta]

I'd say it's more that you were unlucky rather than me being lucky. None of the 40 odd Vic owners that I know have had any problems beyond a few (3) broken clutch cables. That's not bad going

It sounds like you had a bit of a lemon ( don't know exactly what the issue was but it really doesn't matter - it sucks, I understand) but it is certainly not the norm with Vics

Most cruisers have pretty crap lean angles - granted the Vics are particularly low in some models, especially the later Vegas framed bikes, but my lines and pace haven't attracted any negative comment nor do I struggle to keep up, now or previously. I figured just figured out that moving MY centre of mass/gravity is a lot better than trying to grind it out on the frame

It does take a bit more work though

Yeah, I heard about the clutch cable problem. Again, I'm pretty lucky and my ride has been brilliant with not a thing wrong with it. It came with a whole stack of after market performance parts so I think I've got alot to thank the previous owner for. My cornering feels alot better on my Vegas than other bikes I've had and have no complaints to date. It does take a bit of getting used to but I guess you can add me to your list at number 41.

[skippa1]

If you're in New Plymouth, you're not the guy who had the Hammer 8 ball are you? Shit, I was dead jealous when I saw it. Tell you what bro, I'm still happy with my Vic and to date, I've had no trouble sourcing parts (just got them shipped in apart from the oil and filter which I got down the road in Palmy). The V/Night/Street Rods are about the only ones (apart from the Sporty's but they can fuck right off) that I've not test ridden but ironically when I sat on one it felt pretty good. I might just have a blat on one next time I'm near a dealer as the later models are pretty affordable. Thanks man, if the Vic does get on my nerves I might just take your advice.
Yeah bro, I'm in New Plymouth . Nah, I had a Vegas low. I traded the Vic on a V Rod Muscle at Wellington MC. I broke the Victory clutch cable 100m from the shop when trading. Then blew a gearbox seal for the new owner. Finally it has a cracked head for the second time. It was a piece of shit. Never again. I took the rod for a blast today, the power would embarrass a Victory and the ride was outstanding.
i am so happy with the rod......
try a rod you won't regret it.

[scumdog]

I was going to buy one of these, the only thing that stopped me was the fuel range
Just back from a trip to Napier (and other N.I. areas) with Mrs Scumdog, she has a 1200 'S' Sportster, we went all over the place without fuel worries.

She just re-sets the trip-meter everytime she fills up and any time after 150km she starts looking for a handy petrol station.

Of course if your trip has a planned route it's easy to figure out where to fuel up.

I haven't read the whole thread so maybe somebody has already posted this info.

[scumdog]

We only recently traded it for an 2005 2000cc Kawasaki Vulcan cruiser all kitted out, it's behemouth big, loud, long and wide, like riding a train with handle bars with more torque than an Aussie tank and still gets 40MPG. A third of the price of a harley, lots of chrome, comfort, reliable as and a hoot to ride. Cheers Ando

But it's still not a Harley eh....;)

[skippa1]

Just back from a trip to Napier (and other N.I. areas) with Mrs Scumdog, she has a 1200 'S' Sportster, we went all over the place without fuel worries.

She just re-sets the trip-meter everytime she fills up and any time after 150km she starts looking for a handy petrol station.

Of course if your trip has a planned route it's easy to figure out where to fuel up.

I haven't read the whole thread so maybe somebody has already posted this info.

There are some roads down there (South) where you need 220kms range plus or you may run out. If you twist the throttle hard, you risk running low.......bitch if you do....

[scumdog]

There are some roads down there (South) where you need 220kms range plus or you may run out. If you twist the throttle hard, you risk running low.......bitch if you do....
Only the Milford road has ever caused us concern, been everywhere else with the Sportster.

[carbonhed]

"Hanging" might be a stretch.

I do have a fair amount of....uhh...mass so I "swing" off the sides. Basically push my knee out and lean down and in to the corner. My arse is still pretty much on the seat but it's amazing how much less lean I need from the bike to still get a good corner radius.

Now - before anyone gets excited it should be noted that even in my most strenuous moment my knee is probably still half a metre off the ground. It's just that the centre of mass has moved and the bike doesn't have to lean over so much.

It means I can use my measly 4.7 inches of clearance to maximum benefit - plus get some exercise!

Yeah, that would work. Was hoping for photos of you doing a Marquez :laugh:

[ruaphu]

Ahhh Too true Scumdog too true. We'd happily have a hog in the garage but cant justify that outlay for a fully kitted cruiser.........yet!. Have to wait until kids gone, mortage paid and life 'chite' sorted, ya know............OLD lol
Cheers Ando


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[skippa1]

Only the Milford road has ever caused us concern, been everywhere else with the Sportster.
The run from Wanaka to the glaciers can be touch and go, we have had two run out a few Kms short on a fine day when you can cane it. I had to do the gas run for couple of v rods when I had a trumpy 1050, it happens

[scumdog]

The run from Wanaka to the glaciers can be touch and go, we have had two run out a few Kms short on a fine day when you can cane it. I had to do the gas run for couple of v rods when I had a trumpy 1050, it happens

We fill at Cromwell then Haast on that run - but have been known to top up at Makarora...'just to be safe'....

[skippa1]

We fill at Cromwell then Haast on that run - but have been known to top up at Makarora...'just to be safe'....
Haast isn't always open and the little cunt that owns the station is an arse. You must ride economically, itas always touch n go for us.

[Theantidote]

Haast isn't always open and the little cunt that owns the station is an arse. You must ride economically, itas always touch n go for us.

u could always carry a few spare litres in an aluminium fuel bottle couldn't you??? or is a couple of litres just gonna burn when you hit the start button???

avoid all cunts that are arses...it's hard enough sometimes to work out what i like best...that's just gonna fuck me right up

[skippa1]

u could always carry a few spare litres in an aluminium fuel bottle couldn't you??? or is a couple of litres just gonna burn when you hit the start button???

avoid all cunts that are arses...it's hard enough sometimes to work out what i like best...that's just gonna fuck me right up

You on drugs?

[Theantidote]

You on drugs?

it would appear i was mr skippa...thanks for noticing...

[Theantidote]

love the one you ride...
so i'll work the viagra for a bit longer and fit some new bars...soundz like an easier and cheaper way of not even coming close to a hog...but hei she runs sweet and is super comfortable with a nimble weee body for commuting...
will probably redo the seat more king n queen chopper styles...

thanks everyone for the advice, the humour and your time...now step away from the technology and go for a ride...the roads calling you...c u out there.............................................

[nytrain]

Hi there, Im in the same boat as you, always wanted one, finally found the right time in life and space to hold one? As for my budget....im going in with an open mind, a dyna or a softail, looking more toward a deluxe or nightrain. The more people i talk to the more convinced i am of what im getting. wont happen till the end of this year tho, or the start of next year, depending on wether i can find the right one of the two at that time?

Best of luck to you tho!!

[Theantidote]

hei man...good on you...we're still in the process of living life with the budget restraints that it throws...been talking with a shite load of biker dudes and dudedess's about the choices they make and i gotta say at the end o the day it's about lovin the ride you got whilst dreaming of the ride you want...
did have a seat on a trumpy speedmaster over the hols...all i can say is wow...nice cruiser position, super light, and the guy who owned it won't have anything else now...
so till the finance gods look down on me and smile i'll stick with the viagra, enjoy every minute i get on her and clock up the k's, burn the rubber and see the cuntry...
good luck on your hunt for the ultimate bike of the moment...it's not an easy one...keep in touch and ride safe :)

[Theantidote]

hei guys...quick update...
just got me a gravel rashed wee c50 proudly built by a japanese robot from mostly recycled tuperware containers and a little steel thrown in...
very different geometric thingees from the viagra...but loving it so far...bit of a ride to opotiki next weekend so it'll be a good op to sus her out...
commuting is okay...but a bit confused as to what gear she likes at at what speeds...50 km doesn't seem to have a gear but 60 she settles...great...
any other c50 riders got any advice or stories to share?

[ruaphu]

Nice one man, those sound not half bad with a decent set of pipes. Reliable as too. Are ya gonna modd it at all since its been aliddle rashed up? Either way, well done, keep rollin, cheers Ando


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[Theantidote]

Nice one man, those sound not half bad with a decent set of pipes. Reliable as too. Are ya gonna modd it at all since its been aliddle rashed up? Either way, well done, keep rollin, cheers Ando


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hei ando...cheers man...1 week on loving it...
mods...mmmm mods...at some stage I'd love a set of 12'' apes, and sorry to say it but I've always dug the old ghost flames in a nice subtle way...
also gonna redo me seat...thinking of dropping the foam down about an inch, dished out a little and finished off in a croc print trim skirt...
son really wants me to hurry up and stick the pillion seat back on, but for now lovin just toolin around with the solo
plus...and here's where some might say I'm a bit loopy...but I really want to redo the tank emblem as 1 was really rashed up bad...but I'll leave that till I got nothing more to do with my time...

[Fastmark]

I'm thinking about Hogs. Advice?

Sicko get on a normal porn channel like everyone else

[Theantidote]

I'm thinking about Hogs. Advice?

Sicko get on a normal porn channel like everyone else

bit hard to look at porn while riding...tried it once...never again...promise mum...

[GrayWolf]

hei guys...quick update...
just got me a gravel rashed wee c50 proudly built by a japanese robot from mostly recycled tuperware containers and a little steel thrown in...
very different geometric thingees from the viagra...but loving it so far...bit of a ride to opotiki next weekend so it'll be a good op to sus her out...
commuting is okay...but a bit confused as to what gear she likes at at what speeds...50 km doesn't seem to have a gear but 60 she settles...great...
any other c50 riders got any advice or stories to share?

One of the guys at work has a C50, reliable motor, fairly grunty, does a fair amount of K's on it 2 up.... BUT, the achilles heel, which happened on the Forgotten World highway bout 4 km from Whangamamona (of course it HAD to :nono:) Came to a dead stop!
The stator is a weak link, his was burnt out... as there was another similar bike we just kept swapping batteries, back to Wellington. Myself and Vicki rode ahead into Tauramanui and spoke to the guy in the Suzook dealer, as soon as we told him, he said "Stator gone/burnt out", (they've done a 'couple' of them). He was 100% correct when it went into the shopin Welly, think it cost about $300+ for a new one.

[Theantidote]

One of the guys at work has a C50, reliable motor, fairly grunty, does a fair amount of K's on it 2 up.... BUT, the achilles heel, which happened on the Forgotten World highway bout 4 km from Whangamamona (of course it HAD to :nono:) Came to a dead stop!
The stator is a weak link, his was burnt out... as there was another similar bike we just kept swapping batteries, back to Wellington. Myself and Vicki rode ahead into Tauramanui and spoke to the guy in the Suzook dealer, as soon as we told him, he said "Stator gone/burnt out", (they've done a 'couple' of them). He was 100% correct when it went into the shopin Welly, think it cost about $300+ for a new one.

cool thanx for that...I'll keep my eye on it...any ideas on the k's your m8s one had done before then?
uncle seems pretty grunty for an 8hundy...trip to opotiki on the weekend and she had no probs keeping up with the big blocks...I did but I'm sure she would've happily sat at 140-50 odd all day long if it weren't for my desire to keep my licence...she seems too handle the corners and crap roads well...but then it's a more modern suspension set up than the ole viagra...

[GrayWolf]

cool thanx for that...I'll keep my eye on it...any ideas on the k's your m8s one had done before then?
uncle seems pretty grunty for an 8hundy...trip to opotiki on the weekend and she had no probs keeping up with the big blocks...I did but I'm sure she would've happily sat at 140-50 odd all day long if it weren't for my desire to keep my licence...she seems too handle the corners and crap roads well...but then it's a more modern suspension set up than the ole viagra...

Yeh ridden properly, the 800's can keep pace cruising with the big blocks,,, I dont think there is much more than 10-15kph difference in top speed, It'd be two -up with luggage you'd really notice the difference. A learner has a Yam (Star)650 which gets along quite well, but you can hear it is revving a bit more than the 'big blocks'.
Now what I'd love to have a ride on, is the C109, I think it is one of the few bikes that would tempt me/replace the MT-01 in the future! I'm actually not a fan of the riding position of the M109.

[Theantidote]

Yeh ridden properly, the 800's can keep pace cruising with the big blocks,,, I dont think there is much more than 10-15kph difference in top speed, It'd be two -up with luggage you'd really notice the difference. A learner has a Yam (Star)650 which gets along quite well, but you can hear it is revving a bit more than the 'big blocks'.
Now what I'd love to have a ride on, is the C109, I think it is one of the few bikes that would tempt me/replace the MT-01 in the future! I'm actually not a fan of the riding position of the M109.

ohhhh yeah the 109 are pretty cool...serious grunt from what I've seen...I could b tempted myself but on the budget we usually have it'd have to wait till there all about 20 years old and slapping like an old hooker looking for a quick buck...
for now I need to flick the viagra and keep this one humming for a few years...buuuuut I do need to tweek the bars somewhat...after 300 k my left shoulder hurts like a bastard...spent almost a year getting the viagra just right...also need to fill the po's dings in the tank and paint her up rattle can styles...apart from that and make me a more contoured seat with cool as skirt I'm happy....