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Angel_of_Metal
30th November 2013, 15:16
Hey all

Just gave my chain a good lubin' up, however the lube I use is a real fuckin pain (Bel Ray Blu Tac) because it gets everywhere and is a real bitch to clean off. End result being that even though I was indeed careful, I need to now wash the rear tire and swing arm. Kinda getting over it now, so am wondering if there is another lube out there I can use that isn't such a nuisance to clean up after?


And before anyone says it, when I said chain, I really did mean bike chain so minds outta the gutter! :bleh:

Tazz
30th November 2013, 16:14
290454

Pixie Oiler.

Scottoiler.

Loobman.

Spray on wax, teflon etc.

:bleh:

husaberg
30th November 2013, 18:06
I won't add a comment....
i will just say its killing me not too :2thumbsup
As you were.

Point to remember is what part of the chain you are a lubing lube the rollers not the side plates.
so it should be only aimed at the top and bottom of the chain while spinning the chain around.
I use a product by a French company called Total.
i laughed when a friend raved about it and how great it was.
but they were right its cleans the chain and drys to a waxy finish.
I think Total was previously called Agip.

290460
http://www.totaloilsolutions.co.nz/our-products/construction/hydraulic/

swbarnett
1st December 2013, 11:09
According to George from Motorcycle Doctors Spectro Golden is the stuff to use. It has to be used properly though. Make sure the chain is hot (10 minute ride is enough) and apply only to the top of the bottom line of chain just in front of the rear sprocket while turning the rear wheel forward. Then leave for at least 15 minutes to soak in.

It can be found here: http://www.motozone.co.nz/products/oils-chemicals-lubes/spectro/spectro-golden-spectro.aspx

If anyone knows of a source for larger cans I'd like to hear of it.

nzspokes
1st December 2013, 11:40
Scott oiler. Use the scott oil. Tiz a great thing.

Tazz
1st December 2013, 13:42
Sounds similar to this stuff I was eyeing up yesterday.

http://www.mechs.co.nz/mlr-chain-lube-morris-aerosol-spray-can-p-4085.html

Another oiler I like the look of and forgot about is the TUTORO Chain Oiler. Seems well priced and simple enough to bring with you to your next bike/s without farking around drilling or wiring things again.

Also....on the scotoiler front... it's a vacuum one, but looks like it might go cheap enough.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=666471107

caspernz
1st December 2013, 14:29
Hey all

Just gave my chain a good lubin' up, however the lube I use is a real fuckin pain (Bel Ray Blu Tac) because it gets everywhere and is a real bitch to clean off. End result being that even though I was indeed careful, I need to now wash the rear tire and swing arm. Kinda getting over it now, so am wondering if there is another lube out there I can use that isn't such a nuisance to clean up after?


And before anyone says it, when I said chain, I really did mean bike chain so minds outta the gutter! :bleh:

Use less product, apply at the end of a ride to a hot chain for starters, then wipe off excess. Cleanup is with kero and a brush, if that takes longer than 10 minutes you're doing it wrong, bit like sex.

Or get serious and do the Scottoiler thing.

Next best thing is the chain wax approach, which has already been mentioned on here.

Akzle
1st December 2013, 15:28
Cleanup is with kero and a brush, if that takes longer than 10 minutes you're doing it wrong, bit like sex.

i have NEVER had call for kero or a brush, before, during, or after sex...
10 minutes of clean up? please!
just wipe it on the curtains and leave...



OP? 10w30, in a tin-man oil-can. hot chain, centre stand the bitch, put it in first and while it's idling, oil the bitch, you're looking to get it 'twixt the plates, so basically two lines. once it starts throwing or dripping, that's enough.

AllanB
1st December 2013, 16:27
OP? 10w30, in a tin-man oil-can. hot chain, centre stand the bitch, put it in first and while it's idling, oil the bitch, you're looking to get it 'twixt the plates, so basically two lines. once it starts throwing or dripping, that's enough.

Ya knob, do you even own a bike? - oiling the chain in that manner is the easiest way to lose a finger or two.


I just this spray on stuff - comes with a straw that attaches so you can point the spray where you want it. Bloody excellent stuff, pricey but a can lasts bloody ages. Bike shop or Super Cheap.

A tip for spraying on is to take a piece of card about A4 in size fold it into a 'L' so you can slide in under and up the back of the chain - any overspray then goes on the card not your tyre etc.

Akzle
1st December 2013, 17:37
Ya knob, do you even own a bike? - oiling the chain in that manner is the easiest way to lose a finger or two.


youd have to be pretty fucking retarded to put your fingers in.

I havent lost any yet, tho a fuw brane thells. But only because i distill and drink the shit. Then piss in the tank, that shits better than avgas.
Rocol do a cheaper and good, thick, chainspray.

slofox
1st December 2013, 17:42
Rockoil Chain WAX (note the "wax" bit) has been fine for me. Got good life out of the chains I have used. And I am not that reliable on elapsed km's either...

caspernz
1st December 2013, 19:46
i have NEVER had call for kero or a brush, before, during, or after sex...
10 minutes of clean up? please!
just wipe it on the curtains and leave...

Oh yee of little or no imagination...:innocent::facepalm:

skippa1
1st December 2013, 20:25
Hey all

Just gave my chain a good lubin' up, however the lube I use is a real fuckin pain (Bel Ray Blu Tac) because it gets everywhere and is a real bitch to clean off. End result being that even though I was indeed careful, I need to now wash the rear tire and swing arm. Kinda getting over it now, so am wondering if there is another lube out there I can use that isn't such a nuisance to clean up after?


And before anyone says it, when I said chain, I really did mean bike chain so minds outta the gutter! :bleh:
Get a belt drive

Angel_of_Metal
1st December 2013, 23:07
Get a belt drive

on a 250cc?? :oi-grr:

husaberg
2nd December 2013, 05:28
Kawa used to do GPZ or was it Z250/305 one Plus the scooters are belt,CVT with a direct drive.
If you follow the advice re the hot oiling and don't have it to tight, keep the sprockets maintained in good order you will be fine.
Gee its bloody hard to avoid innuendo on this topic, but i am trying.:scratch:

skippa1
2nd December 2013, 18:38
on a 250cc?? :oi-grr:

You don't have to ride a 250

Angel_of_Metal
2nd December 2013, 19:02
You don't have to ride a 250

You wanna buy me a bigger bike? Cool! If you need a hint, a '11/'12/'13 gsxr 600 should do me fine. You can bring it around anytime :done:

nzspokes
2nd December 2013, 19:07
I fancy one of those Honda 250s to ride to work on, easy lane splitting.

skippa1
2nd December 2013, 19:11
You wanna buy me a bigger bike? Cool! If you need a hint, a '11/'12/'13 gsxr 600 should do me fine. You can bring it around anytime :done:

They are chain drive. You can't work out how to lube the chain, how is getting a bigger chain drive going to help?

Angel_of_Metal
2nd December 2013, 20:31
They are chain drive. You can't work out how to lube the chain, how is getting a bigger chain drive going to help?

I know exactly HOW to lube a chain, I am asking for advice on different brands that I can try.

Your suggestion was not to ride a 250 (which is totally irrelevant), so I followed on by saying if you don't think I should ride a 250, then you should buy me a bigger bike.

So unless you have anything that is relevant to contribute, then feel free, otherwise please feel free to fuck off :motu:

skippa1
2nd December 2013, 20:34
I know exactly HOW to lube a chain, I am asking for advice on different brands that I can try.

Your suggestion was not to ride a 250 (which is totally irrelevant), so I followed on by saying if you don't think I should ride a 250, then you should buy me a bigger bike.

So unless you have anything that is relevant to contribute, then feel free, otherwise please feel free to fuck off :motu:

Bit touchy aren't ya....you don't know how to lube a chain or ya wouldn't be gettin it from arsehole to breakfast

Angel_of_Metal
3rd December 2013, 09:25
Bit touchy aren't ya....you don't know how to lube a chain or ya wouldn't be gettin it from arsehole to breakfast

I am, simply because you keep incorrectly assuming that I don't know how to lube a bike chain, which is totally irrelevant to the OP anyway. You clearly have nothing to contribute, so go be a twat elsewhere :tugger:

bogan
3rd December 2013, 11:24
I'm a fan of DuPont teflon whatsit, no chain gunk at all. Sprays on liquid, dries to a waxy finish in around 5mins so you get a bit of time to just wipe off overspray. Protip, just cut a bit of card/plastic you can slot in between sprocket/wheel and stop the overspray there. I tried sticky fucker lube, and wax lube, but neither are as nice to use as the teflon stuff. NFC how it stacks up for longevity cos I don't ride much, looks purdy though :D

Grubber
3rd December 2013, 12:32
According to George from Motorcycle Doctors Spectro Golden is the stuff to use. It has to be used properly though. Make sure the chain is hot (10 minute ride is enough) and apply only to the top of the bottom line of chain just in front of the rear sprocket while turning the rear wheel forward. Then leave for at least 15 minutes to soak in.

It can be found here: http://www.motozone.co.nz/products/oils-chemicals-lubes/spectro/spectro-golden-spectro.aspx

If anyone knows of a source for larger cans I'd like to hear of it.

I get exactly the same stuff from Motomail in the big can.
It seems to be pretty damn good to be honest. Haven't replaced my chain on my 955 since new and have done around 45k on it.
Use it on the race bike also and everything stays relatively clean.

swbarnett
3rd December 2013, 13:58
I get exactly the same stuff from Motomail in the big can.
Curious. They only have the small can on their web site. Must actually visit the shop and have a look.

Maha
3rd December 2013, 14:43
Any chain lube is good enough, no real good/bad as such, just preference. I use Motul which has a straw feeder attached (similar to a CRC container) thus keeping the lube where it is intended to go, on the chain only.

skippa1
3rd December 2013, 16:19
I am, simply because you keep incorrectly assuming that I don't know how to lube a bike chain, which is totally irrelevant to the OP anyway. You clearly have nothing to contribute, so go be a twat elsewhere :tugger:

If applied correctly, Bel Ray is as good as most and doesn't end up all over your wheel. Application......incorrect......relevant

manxkiwi
17th December 2013, 10:46
Ya knob, do you even own a bike? - oiling the chain in that manner is the easiest way to lose a finger or two.


I just this spray on stuff - comes with a straw that attaches so you can point the spray where you want it. Bloody excellent stuff, pricey but a can lasts bloody ages. Bike shop or Super Cheap.

A tip for spraying on is to take a piece of card about A4 in size fold it into a 'L' so you can slide in under and up the back of the chain - any overspray then goes on the card not your tyre etc.



+1, I've been using the Silkolene Titanium Gel for a few years now. Great stuff, practically no 'fling' whatsoever.

bluninja
17th December 2013, 11:15
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I used to use Slippi-Tin, but can't get it in NZ.

I thought that on modern chains the internals are lubricated by grease held in by the rubber seals and that the chain lube is to reduce wear between the chain and sprocket. That being the case then it's best applied to the inside rollers and inner side plates.

I know it's Wikipedia...but here's some info about roller chains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_chain)

SMOKEU
17th December 2013, 13:40
OP? 10w30, in a tin-man oil-can. hot chain, centre stand the bitch, put it in first and while it's idling, oil the bitch, you're looking to get it 'twixt the plates, so basically two lines. once it starts throwing or dripping, that's enough.

I saw pics on a bike forum of a dude who lubed his chain while the engine was idling in 1st gear. He lost a few fingers from that. It was really fucked up.

george formby
17th December 2013, 15:12
Gixxer forum?

I've used at least 5 different spray lubes on my current chain, it's been on awhile. I reckon the trick is a little & often, lube the bits that move and touch. One rotation of the chain is usually enough to put the lube on. I scrunch up a plastic bag & hold it onto the chain and rotate a few times after spraying. The crinkles in the scrunched up bag catch excess lube & spread the lube you want where you want it. I get barely any fling regardless of product, maybe 2 or 3 marks on the tire side wall.

SMOKEU
17th December 2013, 17:37
Gixxer forum?


Yes, and another one on a different forum too.

manxkiwi
22nd December 2013, 08:22
291123
I used to use Slippi-Tin, but can't get it in NZ.

I thought that on modern chains the internals are lubricated by grease held in by the rubber seals and that the chain lube is to reduce wear between the chain and sprocket. That being the case then it's best applied to the inside rollers and inner side plates.

I know it's Wikipedia...but here's some info about roller chains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_chain)


Looking at the image on the tin, it looks like a different type of lube!!! Not for chains, he he.

I've never worried about spraying the inside of the rollers, after all they 'roll'. A couple of turns of the wheel and you'll see the rollers are evenly coated, you can see them rolling continously when they pass over the swingarm giude. Just my 2 cents.

bluninja
22nd December 2013, 10:26
Looking at the image on the tin, it looks like a different type of lube!!! Not for chains, he he.

I've never worried about spraying the inside of the rollers, after all they 'roll'. A couple of turns of the wheel and you'll see the rollers are evenly coated, you can see them rolling continously when they pass over the swingarm giude. Just my 2 cents.

No the can and the product are definitely for bike chains and good stuff. Just a good marketing gimmick..All their other bike products have similar dodgy names.

Fair point about the rollers, just that lubing the inside gets a good film on the sprockets at the first pass rather than wait for the rollers to fully rotate. Like most people I probably over lubricate, but it's only a little bit of money. I also have been know to take multi vitamin supplements too :)

pritch
22nd December 2013, 10:36
I used the Motul and liked it initially. It sprays on really thin so it spreads evenly, then it sets sticky. Problem is that it then attracts grit and turns into something with a remarkable resemblance to grinding paste.

Then I used the Silkolene gel. That looks like you've got a new chain, on the outside sideplate at least, the inside side plates slowly rust because you can't get at them.
I now use the Silkolene on the pushbike.

Got a Scott oiler for the Triumph.

george formby
22nd December 2013, 17:09
I used the Motul and liked it initially. It sprays on really thin so it spreads evenly, then it sets sticky. Problem is that it then attracts grit and turns into something with a remarkable resemblance to grinding paste.

Then I used the Silkolene gel. That looks like you've got a new chain, on the outside sideplate at least, the inside side plates slowly rust because you can't get at them.
I now use the Silkolene on the pushbike.

Got a Scott oiler for the Triumph.

That's why I use the bag. Held over the whole chain, cleans & lubes with bugger all mess. Hold against the side plates or sprocket. Chuck it in the bin when done. Way to much oil comes out of a can anyway so you might as well give the chain one rotation to oil & then a few rotations to distribute it & remove the excess.