Supercross 2014

[thorns]

Anyone know if Sky will be televising this again?

[scott411]

have not looked though the sky list yet but i see its on the same network in the states so thats a good thing,

our ESPN is just run off australia's, so while Reed (now Kawasaki mounted yay) is still racing it should still keep playing there,

can;t see any beating RV for the title tho, Stewart did show he can run with him at the monster cup tho

MIllsaps and Canard have been injured this week as well, Canard broke an arm so will likely miss a couple of rounds at least, and Millsaps is said to have done a knee, but he might tuff it out, Tedesco is said to be the back up rider for him,

[takitimu]

have not looked though the sky list yet but i see its on the same network in the states so thats a good thing,

our ESPN is just run off australia's, so while Reed (now Kawasaki mounted yay) is still racing it should still keep playing there,

can;t see any beating RV for the title tho, Stewart did show he can run with him at the monster cup tho

MIllsaps and Canard have been injured this week as well, Canard broke an arm so will likely miss a couple of rounds at least, and Millsaps is said to have done a knee, but he might tuff it out, Tedesco is said to be the back up rider for him,

I think Bubba will challenge early on, but by around round 5 he'll be injured, my take is he was running fast at the MEC, but a lot of that was a single jump he took a risk few other dared, but the rest of the track he looked slower & more on the ragged edge.

I dunno, I think Eli & Rozcen will give RV a run for his money, sounds like KTM have got an additional brace on the frame which they are claiming makes a real difference to for the 2014, so Dungey is likely to also be up there.

Losign Davi & Troy this early is a shame for them, it's pretty close to the opening to get injured, it'd be gutting for them both.

[scott411]

I think Bubba will challenge early on, but by around round 5 he'll be injured, my take is he was running fast at the MEC, but a lot of that was a single jump he took a risk few other dared, but the rest of the track he looked slower & more on the ragged edge.

I dunno, I think Eli & Rozcen will give RV a run for his money, sounds like KTM have got an additional brace on the frame which they are claiming makes a real difference to for the 2014, so Dungey is likely to also be up there.

Losign Davi & Troy this early is a shame for them, it's pretty close to the opening to get injured, it'd be gutting for them both.

KTM have made another special edition so they can run a new frame for the factory boys, shame they can't get it right the first time like the japs aye (just joking don't get upset, last years Honda was not loved by many top SX riders)

i would not be surprised to see Eli and Ken win a round or 2, but i don't think they will be in the title chase,

I think your right about Bubba, I think it will come down to the two Ryan's again, and I think Villopoto has pulled away in speed a bit last year tho,

Be interesting to see if Reed gets back to where he was in 2012, challanging for wins, as last year he was just a top 5 guy on his good nights, and especially in the outdoors he was no where near the top 5

[FlangMasterJ]

JS with a perfect supercross season. I'm calling it.

[scott411]

JS with a perfect supercross season. I'm calling it.

willing to put your money on that?

[Jay GTI]

Generally not one to listen to rumour, but I heard a rumour JS sustained a nasty head injury when he crashed in the Las Vegas final of '11 SX season, which really affected his balance (heard stories of him randomly falling over in the pits during the '12 season). It was supposedly kept quiet from the media, no idea if it's true, but was apparently why he's crashed so regularly since, as he is still having some issues.

[scott411]

Generally not one to listen to rumour, but I heard a rumour JS sustained a nasty head injury when he crashed in the Las Vegas final of '11 SX season, which really affected his balance (heard stories of him randomly falling over in the pits during the '12 season). It was supposedly kept quiet from the media, no idea if it's true, but was apparently why he's crashed so regularly since, as he is still having some issues.

he has crashed a lot before that as well, but an interesting rumor none the less, would find it hard to believe he was falling over in the pits and still allowed to ride by his family and team tho,

[Jay GTI]

he has crashed a lot before that as well, but an interesting rumor none the less, would find it hard to believe he was falling over in the pits and still allowed to ride by his family and team tho,

As with most rumours, if it has any merit, it will have been exaggerated, I'm sure. It was along the lines of it being an occassional issue with random dizzy spells and JS insisted for the most part he was fine. There were only a few people outside his team that "knew" and their opinion was he shouldn't be anywhere near a dirt bike, but it he insisted and those around him reluctantly allowed him to continue racing.

But, of course, it is a rumour and it could be complete bollocks :)

[takitimu]

KTM have made another special edition so they can run a new frame for the factory boys, shame they can't get it right the first time like the japs aye (just joking don't get upset, last years Honda was not loved by many top SX riders)

i would not be surprised to see Eli and Ken win a round or 2, but i don't think they will be in the title chase,

I think your right about Bubba, I think it will come down to the two Ryan's again, and I think Villopoto has pulled away in speed a bit last year tho,

Be interesting to see if Reed gets back to where he was in 2012, challanging for wins, as last year he was just a top 5 guy on his good nights, and especially in the outdoors he was no where near the top 5

I think ktm have come along way since everts joined and I think now you'll really see the benefits of decoster as he moves ktm from catchup to pushing things :), I think he had a huge job and I do wonder if rd was hanging back a bit and whether the frame tweak might just be enough to let him let loose. Certainly didn't sound like Broxy loved the ktm frame and as far as I know it's the same 250/450.

Good call on Eli/ken.

Cr, now that's interesting, seems to me a confidence rider and that kx450 is a very polished bike, my recollection is no real changes to rv bike since 2012, lots of evolution In there mind you.

Kinda feels like rv/rd/et/cr/kr but a long season and be a great season to get to watch a race.

[takitimu]

I think Bubba will challenge early on, but by around round 5 he'll be injured, my take is he was running fast at the MEC, but a lot of that was a single jump he took a risk few other dared, but the rest of the track he looked slower & more on the ragged edge.

I dunno, I think Eli & Rozcen will give RV a run for his money, sounds like KTM have got an additional brace on the frame which they are claiming makes a real difference to for the 2014, so Dungey is likely to also be up there.

Losign Davi & Troy this early is a shame for them, it's pretty close to the opening to get injured, it'd be gutting for them both.

Looking good for full series live coverage, well apart from the espn2 ones anyway, not sure how that will go.

http://www.motoonline.com.au/2013/12/13/espn-australia-to-air-2014-american-supercross-season-live/

2014 Monster Energy Supercross, an FIM World Championship, television schedule:
Rd1 Anaheim 1, CA – 2:30pm, 5 January – ESPN2
Rd2 Phoenix, AZ – 1:30pm, 12 January – ESPN2
Rd3 Anaheim 2, CA – 2:30pm, 19 January – ESPN
Rd4 Oakland, CA – 2:30pm, 26 January – ESPN
Rd5 Anaheim 3, CA – 2:30pm, 2 February – ESPN
Rd6 San Diego, CA – 2:30pm, 9 February – ESPN
Rd7 Arlington, TX – 12:30pm, 16 February – ESPN2
Rd8 Atlanta, GA – 11:30am, 23 February – ESPN
Rd9 Indianapolis, IN – 11:30am, 2 March – ESPN
Rd10 Detroit, MI – 10:30am, 16 March – ESPN
Rd11 Toronto, ON – 10:30am, 23 March – ESPN
Rd12 St Louis, MO – 11:30am, 30 March – ESPN
Rd13 Houston, TX – 11:30am, 6 April – ESPN
Rd14 Seattle, WA – 12:30pm, 13 April – ESPN
Rd15 East Rutherford, NJ – TBA, 27 April – ESPN
Rd16 Las Vegas, NV – 12:30pm, 4 May – ESPN

[scott411]

Looking good for full series live coverage, well apart from the espn2 ones anyway, not sure how that will go.

http://www.motoonline.com.au/2013/12/13/espn-australia-to-air-2014-american-supercross-season-live/

2014 Monster Energy Supercross, an FIM World Championship, television schedule:
Rd1 Anaheim 1, CA – 2:30pm, 5 January – ESPN2
Rd2 Phoenix, AZ – 1:30pm, 12 January – ESPN2
Rd3 Anaheim 2, CA – 2:30pm, 19 January – ESPN
Rd4 Oakland, CA – 2:30pm, 26 January – ESPN
Rd5 Anaheim 3, CA – 2:30pm, 2 February – ESPN
Rd6 San Diego, CA – 2:30pm, 9 February – ESPN
Rd7 Arlington, TX – 12:30pm, 16 February – ESPN2
Rd8 Atlanta, GA – 11:30am, 23 February – ESPN
Rd9 Indianapolis, IN – 11:30am, 2 March – ESPN
Rd10 Detroit, MI – 10:30am, 16 March – ESPN
Rd11 Toronto, ON – 10:30am, 23 March – ESPN
Rd12 St Louis, MO – 11:30am, 30 March – ESPN
Rd13 Houston, TX – 11:30am, 6 April – ESPN
Rd14 Seattle, WA – 12:30pm, 13 April – ESPN
Rd15 East Rutherford, NJ – TBA, 27 April – ESPN
Rd16 Las Vegas, NV – 12:30pm, 4 May – ESPN

its similar to last year, which means we should get live on ESPN here,

[thorns]

Looking good for full series live coverage, well apart from the espn2 ones anyway, not sure how that will go.

http://www.motoonline.com.au/2013/12/13/espn-australia-to-air-2014-american-supercross-season-live/

2014 Monster Energy Supercross, an FIM World Championship, television schedule:
Rd1 Anaheim 1, CA – 2:30pm, 5 January – ESPN2
Rd2 Phoenix, AZ – 1:30pm, 12 January – ESPN2
Rd3 Anaheim 2, CA – 2:30pm, 19 January – ESPN
Rd4 Oakland, CA – 2:30pm, 26 January – ESPN
Rd5 Anaheim 3, CA – 2:30pm, 2 February – ESPN
Rd6 San Diego, CA – 2:30pm, 9 February – ESPN
Rd7 Arlington, TX – 12:30pm, 16 February – ESPN2
Rd8 Atlanta, GA – 11:30am, 23 February – ESPN
Rd9 Indianapolis, IN – 11:30am, 2 March – ESPN
Rd10 Detroit, MI – 10:30am, 16 March – ESPN
Rd11 Toronto, ON – 10:30am, 23 March – ESPN
Rd12 St Louis, MO – 11:30am, 30 March – ESPN
Rd13 Houston, TX – 11:30am, 6 April – ESPN
Rd14 Seattle, WA – 12:30pm, 13 April – ESPN
Rd15 East Rutherford, NJ – TBA, 27 April – ESPN
Rd16 Las Vegas, NV – 12:30pm, 4 May – ESPN


Ripper! Man I'm looking forward to this season, have planned my xmas holiday around being home for the first round.

[thorns]

Torrent link for the 2014 preview show

Site is NSFW, a few dodgy ads on the sidebars.

http://thepiratebay.pe/torrent/9352465/2014_AMA_Supercross_Season_Preview_HD_720p_slickni ck610

[thorns]

Or can watch it via facebook through this page, split into 3 parts.

https://www.facebook.com/CBM.Race

[thorns]

First round being shown delayed on espn, Sunday night at 1030. No doubt there will be a few live streams floating round as well if you look in the right place.

[jasonu]

Just started live here.

[scott411]

here you go link for A1, hopefully it lasts,o
http://www.justin.tv/checkers_or_wreckers_831

[ktm84mxc]

Good 2 c the races were close, can't say I'm a fan of the new re old format of semi's as the holeshot takes on bigger part in qualifying.
Nice to c Reed getting a good result after last year and He'll be a spoiler for some as I can't see him winning the overall but he will take points away from a few championship contenders.
Ditto the same for Bubba supa fast just seems to crash a lot now days.
Finally KTM have 2 top riders who can win and when Milsaps returns that'll be 3 . You just can't relie on 1 rider to do it alone.

[Jay GTI]

Yeah have to say it was an awesome opening round, although if there is a negative to this season, it's that there are so many 250 riders on their rookie 450 year, there's feck all riders left in the 250 class I know anything about.

I'd say RV still has the outright pace, A1 showed Roczen has the speed to stay with him, but not catch him. JS7 was fast as feck until he crashed, which shows he's still riding at 11/10ths. If he could hold it together he could win, but I think we'll continue to see more flashes of crazy speed and more crashes.

Also agree it's good to see Reed getting some form back, but there are so many fast guys in the 450s this year, I reckon it will be won and lost on the worst races, rather than the best.

[scott411]

Yeah have to say it was an awesome opening round, although if there is a negative to this season, it's that there are so many 250 riders on their rookie 450 year, there's feck all riders left in the 250 class I know anything about.

I'd say RV still has the outright pace, A1 showed Roczen has the speed to stay with him, but not catch him. JS7 was fast as feck until he crashed, which shows he's still riding at 11/10ths. If he could hold it together he could win, but I think we'll continue to see more flashes of crazy speed and more crashes.

Also agree it's good to see Reed getting some form back, but there are so many fast guys in the 450s this year, I reckon it will be won and lost on the worst races, rather than the best.

agreed with the last line, RV did not seem keen to try to get back to the front and was happy to start with a top 5, he showed some pace in the heats, and when it gets back to east coast with better dirt it will be interesting to see how he goes,

thought Roczen might get a win this year, did not expect it at round 1, I like the semi's, as it will give more guys tv time, and i like the 22 man main events in the 450's as well,

[motor_mayhem]

Yeah have to say it was an awesome opening round, although if there is a negative to this season, it's that there are so many 250 riders on their rookie 450 year, there's feck all riders left in the 250 class I know anything about.

West Coast
Dean Wilson - PCK - won 250 outdoors in 2011, was in The Moto: Inside the Outdoors
Zack Osbourne - GH - won some GPs and came back to join Geico last year, 1-2 podiums in both supercross and outdoors, was in Moto4
Jason Anderson - RSK - won a main last year, and been mentioned a bit recently due to Rockstar changing to KTM
Cole Seely - TLDH - has been round for a while
Cooper Webb - SRY - one of the most well known rookies, featured in the first series of Road to Lorettas (on red bull youtube channel)
Darryn Durham - PCK - has been around a while
Justin Hill - PCK - brother of Josh Hill
Malcom Stewart - TLDH - brother of James, rode 450s last outdoors.
Jesse Nelson - TLDH - second year, has been mentioned due to getting a few holeshots last year, also featured in the first series of Road to Lorettas (on red bull youtube channel)
Austin Politelli - just crashed this week in practice so be sitting out a while

East Coast
Pro Circuit Kawi have Baggett, Ciancirulo and Davalos
Geico Hon have Bogle, Bisceglia
Star Racing Yam have the younger Martin
Don't think Troy Lee Hon do the east coast

Probably a few more I've forgotten but that should get you started

[Jay GTI]

West Coast
Dean Wilson - PCK - won 250 outdoors in 2011, was in The Moto: Inside the Outdoors
Zack Osbourne - GH - won some GPs and came back to join Geico last year, 1-2 podiums in both supercross and outdoors, was in Moto4
Jason Anderson - RSK - won a main last year, and been mentioned a bit recently due to Rockstar changing to KTM
Cole Seely - TLDH - has been round for a while
Cooper Webb - SRY - one of the most well known rookies, featured in the first series of Road to Lorettas (on red bull youtube channel)
Darryn Durham - PCK - has been around a while
Justin Hill - PCK - brother of Josh Hill
Malcom Stewart - TLDH - brother of James, rode 450s last outdoors.
Jesse Nelson - TLDH - second year, has been mentioned due to getting a few holeshots last year, also featured in the first series of Road to Lorettas (on red bull youtube channel)
Austin Politelli - just crashed this week in practice so be sitting out a while

East Coast
Pro Circuit Kawi have Baggett, Ciancirulo and Davalos
Geico Hon have Bogle, Bisceglia
Star Racing Yam have the younger Martin
Don't think Troy Lee Hon do the east coast

Probably a few more I've forgotten but that should get you started

Oh sweet, thank you for taking the time to do that, appreciated!

[jasonu]

Phoenix SX on right now (4.14pm Sunday NZ time)

I'm waiting for another hour or so before I watch it so I can ff thru the ads.

[raglanash]

Dungey needs a kick in the nuts! Pull the trigger man FFS.
And Anderson, that dude is ruthless bloody awesome

[scott411]

Dungey needs a kick in the nuts! Pull the trigger man FFS.
And Anderson, that dude is ruthless bloody awesome

agreed , he waits to long, RV catched poeple, passes them and goes away,

Anderson just keeps trying, Seely will be spewing,

[takitimu]

agreed , he waits to long, RV catched poeple, passes them and goes away,

Anderson just keeps trying, Seely will be spewing,

Yep rd has the speed, but his passing needs work, some time watching rev or js would be good, both are awesome at catching a rider and within a few corners pulling a pass.

Another cool track and some great racing, the 450 class is stacked.

Good luck picking the podium at a2, I am not even going to try.

[Jay GTI]

I read De Coster was getting fed up with Dungey's lack of aggression last season, he'll be spitting tacks already.

[jasonu]

Best 450 main race I have seen in a bloody long time!!!!!
Bring on the next one!

[thorns]

Epic race, absoultely loving this season, so open as to who is going to win!

Good to see Dungey get some urgency about him as well!

[scott411]

man i did not beleive Reed would be that good this year, but he earnt that one, one of the best races i have seen,



Anderson has been docked 2 postions for jumping on a red cross flag, so Seely has the points lead by 1,

[thorns]

http://mxdose.com/mxdose/2014-ama-supercross-anaheim-2-rd03-replay/

All replays up here for anyone that missed it.

[raglanash]

That race had it all, I was off the couch for the last 10 laps, the OG's 7 and 22 out front was epic.
Weird deal with #7's boot going into RV's wheel and washing him out, think Stewart dodged a bullet there.

5 points separating the top 5, killer start to the season.

[merv]

Not bad for a bloke that has been racing professionally already for over 15 years.

[Jay GTI]

Really got to stop reading on here before I watch the race... although now I just want to see how 22 won.

[ktm84mxc]

He was fastest after the 1st whoop section you turned 90 degrees and into a rythem section Reed was the only 1 to jump the first part all of the others wer rolling it and jumping out.
Is Reed the 1st rider to win a main on 4 different brands? Yam Suzi Kawa can't remember if he won on a Honda?

[scott411]

He was fastest after the 1st whoop section you turned 90 degrees and into a rythem section Reed was the only 1 to jump the first part all of the others wer rolling it and jumping out.
Is Reed the 1st rider to win a main on 4 different brands? Yam Suzi Kawa can't remember if he won on a Honda?

yes he did win on a honda in 2012

I know Lusk, rode for all four brands on factory bikes, but i dont think he won on them all,

[thorns]

Supercross - Behind the Dream.

Part 1 of a 5 part series through the season, made by same people who made Inside the Outdoors MX series.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19yz0k_supercross-behind-the-dream-episode-1_auto#from=embediframe

[scott411]

Supercross - Behind the Dream.

Part 1 of a 5 part series through the season, made by same people who made Inside the Outdoors MX series.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19yz0k_supercross-behind-the-dream-episode-1_auto#from=embediframe

cheers for that, saves me looking, such and awesome series,

[cheese]

That race was epic. Looks like RD found a set of nuts to bolt and and use. Top 5 is a really interesting pack.

[raglanash]

Reedy into 2nd. #7 clawing back. 13 rounds to go. Hope the live coverage on espn continues.
1 1 Ryan Villopoto Seattle, WA 84
2 22 Chad Reed Dade City, FL 77
3 94 Ken Roczen Murrieta, CA 75
4 5 Ryan Dungey Belle Plaine, MN 75
5 10 Justin Brayton Cornelius, NC 71
6 7 James Stewart Haines City, FL 66
7 51 Justin Barcia Pinetta, FL 56
8 29 Andrew Short Smithville, TX 49
9 23 William Hahn Menifee, CA 43
10 12 Jacob Weimer Rupert, ID 37

[scott411]

Reedy into 2nd. #7 clawing back. 13 rounds to go. Hope the live coverage on espn continues.
1 1 Ryan Villopoto Seattle, WA 84
2 22 Chad Reed Dade City, FL 77
3 94 Ken Roczen Murrieta, CA 75
4 5 Ryan Dungey Belle Plaine, MN 75
5 10 Justin Brayton Cornelius, NC 71
6 7 James Stewart Haines City, FL 66
7 51 Justin Barcia Pinetta, FL 56
8 29 Andrew Short Smithville, TX 49
9 23 William Hahn Menifee, CA 43
10 12 Jacob Weimer Rupert, ID 37

clawing back??? he lost another 3 points on the leader, 18 points is going to be hard to claw back from RV,

[raglanash]

clawing back??? he lost another 3 points on the leader, 18 points is going to be hard to claw back from RV,

Gee keep calm captain Kawi ! Clawing back on the rest of the field not the leprechaun.. Agree 18 points is a lot. But it's only a DNF away. 13 rounds to go bro who know's what will happen.

I'm just pitted that there is no Honda's anywhere close really.. Not super pumped on that at all. Just left backing the old dudes, go 22 and 7. Barcia is not performing, I am convinced it's the gear he is wearing, I have never seen anything so ugly.

[scott411]

Gee keep calm captain Kawi ! Clawing back on the rest of the field not the leprechaun.. Agree 18 points is a lot. But it's only a DNF away. 13 rounds to go bro who know's what will happen.

I'm just pitted that there is no Honda's anywhere close really.. Not super pumped on that at all. Just left backing the old dudes, go 22 and 7. Barcia is not performing, I am convinced it's the gear he is wearing, I have never seen anything so ugly.

im very calm, 1 and 2 in the points type calm ;), RV is a front wheel loss, and a boot in the front wheel from being 4 from 4 for the year, and has caught and passed everyone so far at some point,

yeah I am not sure why Barcia is off the pace, you would think the bike would be better than last year, but maybe not having another person improving it as well is hurting, (no Reed or SHort like last year, and no Canard)

[Jay GTI]

I'm just hoping Dungy keeps taking his concrete pills and luck continues to occassionally shine on the German rookie, who I've being supporting/following since his FIM MX2 days. Neither will give RV any reason to lose any sleep this season (Scott is correct that he's shown a clear speed advantage in every round so far), but an orange pilot on the championship podium would keep me happy.

[scott411]

I'm just hoping Dungy keeps taking his concrete pills and luck continues to occassionally shine on the German rookie, who I've being supporting/following since his FIM MX2 days. Neither will give RV any reason to lose any sleep this season (Scott is correct that he's shown a clear speed advantage in every round so far), but an orange pilot on the championship podium would keep me happy.

i think Stewart will win one sooner or later, and i really hope Brayton wins one as well,

[motor_mayhem]

I'm just pitted that there is no Honda's anywhere close really.. Not super pumped on that at all. Just left backing the old dudes, go 22 and 7. Barcia is not performing, I am convinced it's the gear he is wearing, I have never seen anything so ugly.

When Tomac and TC come back there might be a reshuffle

[scott411]

When Tomac and TC come back there might be a reshuffle

it will be interesting, I think its always been hard to come back in mid season, the top 6-7 guys are just hauling,

I wonder if RCH will get in a fill in rider as well, as both riders are hurt now,

[Jay GTI]

i think Stewart will win one sooner or later, and i really hope Brayton wins one as well,

I agree on Stewart, sadly Anaheim 1 has done enough damage to his points total to realistically preclude him from the championship, so he may cruise to a placing instead (hope there's still enough fire in his belly to stop him from doing that). But a round win is almost certain.

Would be awesome for Breyton to win one too, he's had his fast moments, so he has the potential to.

I just hope it doesn't end up being the SX equivalent of the Schumacher/Ferrari F1 era, RV is enormously talented but it gets real boring real quick if one rider just walks away with the championship.

[thorns]

I really hope I'm wrong, but I do get the feeling the RV train has just let the station and got up to speed.

Been a great start to the season, but been a bit lucky RV has had a couple of hiccups, pretty much reminds me of last season, slow start, but once he was up to speed, was just unstoppable. Huge respect for the guy, what he does on a dirtbike is ridiculous, just hope someone else can come out swinging and at least keep him honest for the length of the season.

[takitimu]

I really hope I'm wrong, but I do get the feeling the RV train has just let the station and got up to speed.

Been a great start to the season, but been a bit lucky RV has had a couple of hiccups, pretty much reminds me of last season, slow start, but once he was up to speed, was just unstoppable. Huge respect for the guy, what he does on a dirtbike is ridiculous, just hope someone else can come out swinging and at least keep him honest for the length of the season.

I think he is for sure the front runner, but with a stacked top 7 ( 9 with tomac/carnard ) mistakes or a bad start are really costly, so I think this one is going down to the wire.

[Jay GTI]

Random Friday question... Watching Oakland with the missus on the TV on Monday (love smart TVs!), she asked "would you like to be able to ride like that?". I know, typical wifey question, but I said if I could ride like the slowest guy on that track, I'd die a happy man.

So, considering there's quite a few riders in both the 250s and 450s I have no clue about and probably will never know anything about, due to falling off the back of the LCQ, how would those guys rate if they, for example, came and raced MX in NZ, or did the Oz SX series? Are they just grid fillers, or are they geniunely fast guys waiting to build speed and experience, get the right team/bike etc?

[scott411]

Random Friday question... Watching Oakland with the missus on the TV on Monday (love smart TVs!), she asked "would you like to be able to ride like that?". I know, typical wifey question, but I said if I could ride like the slowest guy on that track, I'd die a happy man.

So, considering there's quite a few riders in both the 250s and 450s I have no clue about and probably will never know anything about, due to falling off the back of the LCQ, how would those guys rate if they, for example, came and raced MX in NZ, or did the Oz SX series? Are they just grid fillers, or are they geniunely fast guys waiting to build speed and experience, get the right team/bike etc?

Cody Cooper never qualified for a 450 main event in about 7 attempts in 2009 when on the JGR yamaha,

BIlly Ainsworth came to NZ for the first manakau SX in 2008 or 9, got 4th on a stock suspension after Air NZ lost his suspension and it did not arrive till the next day, he used to qualify for 250 east coast main events,

Daryl Hurley qualified for mains on a 450, and got top 10's on the lites bike, BT won a lites title over Dungey, Josh did one season on a 125 honda in about 03, and from memory made 3 out of 5 mains,

so basically our top guys are good enough to qualify, and out best were very good,

the guys that make the night show (40 each class), are all very good riders, if you ever go and watch the afternoon practices, their are some guys out there that need to get a bit better,

[Jay GTI]

Ah, didn't even know there were other guys trying to make the televised part of the race. Was always curious as to the skill level of the lower level riders, there always seems to be a chasm of speed differential between them and the top 10 riders, it is hard to judge how fast they really are.

Still gutted BT never got to have another go at the 'States, he did beat Dungey as you say, as well as Cairolli and he definitely kept RV honest in 07 too.

[scott411]

Ah, didn't even know there were other guys trying to make the televised part of the race. Was always curious as to the skill level of the lower level riders, there always seems to be a chasm of speed differential between them and the top 10 riders, it is hard to judge how fast they really are.

Still gutted BT never got to have another go at the 'States, he did beat Dungey as you say, as well as Cairolli and he definitely kept RV honest in 07 too.

RV said in an interview that BT is the hardest guy he has ever raced,

sometimes there are up to 80 riders trying to make the 40 riders in each class,

[FlangMasterJ]

I miss BT.

[scott411]

another great race, and Chad F N Reed is on form, only 2 points off the lead,

Roczen looked great again, and the new Angry Ryan Dungey took stewart out, and then had a nasty crash in the whoops, and messed up the bike do dnf'd

amd Wilson got his win finally, only 13 points down,

[raglanash]

Chad mother f'n Reed. He's on it. Hope he stays on it. RV had nothing, might be different when they go East though.

Awesome racing to watch. Stoked on the ESPN live coverage.

[scott411]

Chad mother f'n Reed. He's on it. Hope he stays on it. RV had nothing, might be different when they go East though.

Awesome racing to watch. Stoked on the ESPN live coverage.

I think RV has calmed down a bit this year, saw it at A1 when he was happy to stay 4th after the tip over, and again last night, its like he has realized he can not win every race but to stay on the podium until he gets where he is better in the soft dirt,

you know its a slick track when Wilson out qualifies the 450's by a second,

[raglanash]

Gotta love Wilson's comment when he was choking up after winning. "I feel like Alessi right now" funny shit.
And staring at DD's cans while on the podium.... Hahaha

[FlangMasterJ]

What about Malcolm's move on Anderson?

[scott411]

What about Malcolm's move on Anderson?

at first i thought it was pretty dirty, then i saw the first reply and did not think it was that bad, then the second reply from the angle behind made it look worse,

overall i think Mookie jsut tried to get the position back straight away, and Anderson tried to cover, but not well enough, it was tuff racing but not really dirty IMO

[FlangMasterJ]

It looked to me like some team tactics. Malcolm took out Anderson so his teammate Seely could make up some points.

[raglanash]

Anderson used a different line. The 2 of them had a discussion in the mid field straight after the race about it. Sorted it out and shook hands.
AMA cleared reviewed it and cleared Stewart. Don't get me wrong I like the way Anderson roll's.

Troy Lee has to be stoked with his guys, all 4 in the top 10 in points.

The lights is getting good, Anderson and Seely tied for 1st Wilson only 12 back. Impressed with the rookies Webb and Hill. Be interesting to see how AC goes on the east coast.

Live on ESPN again, bring on Sunday.

[flyingcr250]

any youtube for us peasants who dont have sky sport?

[scott411]

any youtube for us peasants who dont have sky sport?

look up supercross 2014

[scott411]

both riders go pros from the incident are here

http://vurbmoto.com/videos/a3-gopro-stewarts-roczen-peick-villopoto/16542/

[raglanash]

Watch where Anderson lands @ 11 seconds. Then again @ 1:35. He jumped over to protect the inside, big Mookie was already there.. He sure chucked it in there, got very close as Anderson was moving over in the lane. Watched espn coverage again and K-Dub commentating mentioned it was a line nobody had taken all day. Nah well shit happens eh.

CBM Racing on Facebook always chucks up youtube links as soon as they are available if ya can't be bothered searching.

https://www.facebook.com/CBM.Race?fref=ts

[scott411]

Watch where Anderson lands @ 11 seconds. Then again @ 1:35. He jumped over to protect the inside, big Mookie was already there.. He sure chucked it in there, got very close as Anderson was moving over in the lane. Watched espn coverage again and K-Dub commentating mentioned it was a line nobody had taken all day. Nah well shit happens eh.

CBM Racing on Facebook always chucks up youtube links as soon as they are available if ya can't be bothered searching.

https://www.facebook.com/CBM.Race?fref=ts

agree with your comments, Mookie was going for the block pass back, and Anderson tried to cover the line, he just did not get their fast enough,

as with the Block pass he did on Mookie the corner before, Mookie stopped as not to get taken out, Travis Pastana wrote a good article that basically said if you get taken out its your fault, for not covering the inside enough, and not being smart enough to pull up in time,

[raglanash]

Nothing wrong with any of it alright, just racing. Love chucking in a block pass myself if someone leaves the door open. Not too nasty in the Vet's though but in saying that not to many doors get left open in that class either...

[scott411]

Nothing wrong with any of it alright, just racing. Love chucking in a block pass myself if someone leaves the door open. Not too nasty in the Vet's though but in saying that not to many doors get left open in that class either...

the vets are the worst for hugging insides, jumping bungy's,

[scott411]

Bubba wins his first one, Chad crashes hard, RV extends his points lead,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSUHIT5govs

Reed is claiming on social media he is going to try to ride next weekend,

[takitimu]

Bubba wins his first one, Chad crashes hard, RV extends his points lead,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSUHIT5govs

Reed is claiming on social media he is going to try to ride next weekend,

Broken scapula/ broken collarbone/ broken T1

That's a pretty hefty set of injuries to ride with I'm thinking.

Such a shame, he was riding so well & it was shaping to be an awesome last lap with him RD & KR

[scott411]

interesting stat, RV is looking in a pretty strong position,

Steve Matthes ‏@pulpmx 2h
After six west coast races last year, RV had one less podium & was 27 points back of lead. So yeah, he's fine.

[takitimu]

interesting stat, RV is looking in a pretty strong position,

Steve Matthes ‏@pulpmx 2h
After six west coast races last year, RV had one less podium & was 27 points back of lead. So yeah, he's fine.

It definitely seems to be shaping up to a RV vs KR battle, in training & the series :), with JS as a potential spoiler. Going to be some great racing out east as guys like Tomac try & mix things up.

[FlangMasterJ]

Broken scapula/ broken collarbone/ broken T1

That's a pretty hefty set of injuries to ride with I'm thinking.

Such a shame, he was riding so well & it was shaping to be an awesome last lap with him RD & KR

Jesus! I kind of want to see him continue on but with a back injury you'd hope he'd stay off the bike.

Every Sunday night I'm on youtube refreshing Supercross2014's page waiting for his uploads.

[raglanash]

Reeds a hard c#nt if he races. Just shows what can happen at any time.
Stoked on the #7 win finally.

Roczen looks dangerous, sure has a big future ahead.

[Jay GTI]

The social media announcements I saw were along the lines of "if the shoulder isn't broken, I'm racing on Sunday". Would assume he's had a re-think, now he's been examined.

Was great to see Stewart take the win, he was obviously stoked as well, but his crash record already will put him out of serious contention for the championship. Roczen may keep on RV's tail, but I don't see him really making the push to close the overall points gap. He was really fading by the end, reckon both Reed and Dungey would have put a challenge on him in the last lap. K-Roc will win a championship though, he's definitely got the talent and more time racing 450s will bring even more speed.

[scott411]

The social media announcements I saw were along the lines of "if the shoulder isn't broken, I'm racing on Sunday". Would assume he's had a re-think, now he's been examined.

Was great to see Stewart take the win, he was obviously stoked as well, but his crash record already will put him out of serious contention for the championship. Roczen may keep on RV's tail, but I don't see him really making the push to close the overall points gap. He was really fading by the end, reckon both Reed and Dungey would have put a challenge on him in the last lap. K-Roc will win a championship though, he's definitely got the talent and more time racing 450s will bring even more speed.

if those bones are broken, and he can ride the main, then he is the man for sure, but with out a week off till easter, i think the title is not really within his reach,

East Coast starts this week, be interesting to see how it goes,

[FlangMasterJ]

"Chad Reed did a few laps in the first practice and a few more in the final one before pulling off. We’re now hearing Chad is officially out—he gave it a go and a great effort, but his attempt for a storybook championship season appears to have come to an end."

[Jay GTI]

"Chad Reed did a few laps in the first practice and a few more in the final one before pulling off. We’re now hearing Chad is officially out—he gave it a go and a great effort, but his attempt for a storybook championship season appears to have come to an end."

Ah bugger, was hoping he'd at least be able to compete this round and recover over the next few weeks.

[barty5]

We have Nascar racing instead of supercross live Nascar rules all tv here no matter what is on have to watch replay in the morning.

[raglanash]

Stream here http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ama-supercross-series-2014

[jasonu]

We have Nascar racing instead of supercross live Nascar rules all tv here no matter what is on have to watch replay in the morning.

Not over here in the North West. Got it live and in full on Fox Sports One.

[scott411]

another hard pack track and not alot of passing, Stew was a class above everyone,

Pro Circuit swept the podium, cool to see the AC win on debut, but a big shock that one of the title favourites Jeremy Martin did not qualify,

[takitimu]

Not over here in the North West. Got it live and in full on Fox Sports One.

Here on the east coast it was on fox sports 2, which is not available on comcast :(

See chad dislocated his shoulder in the final practise which sucks for him.

I have to say barcia can pull off one heck of a mean whip, but really glad he didn't tangle with roczen doing it, that could have been messy.

[barty5]

Here on the east coast it was on fox sports 2, which is not available on comcast :(

See chad dislocated his shoulder in the final practise which sucks for him.

I have to say barcia can pull off one heck of a mean whip, but really glad he didn't tangle with roczen doing it, that could have been messy.

Where on the east coast of this fast country are you ? In Connecticut myself for next year an half

[takitimu]

Where on the east coast of this fast country are you ? In Connecticut myself for next year an half

No way, I'm in Hoboken for four weeks.

How's the tristate treating you ?

[FlangMasterJ]

See chad dislocated his shoulder in the final practise which sucks for him.

Oh jeez really? Must be heartbreaking.

[barty5]

No way, I'm in Hoboken for four weeks.

How's the tristate treating you ?

Not to bad still waiting on work permit had a 7 month holiday so far. Just keeping an eye out for another bike to rebuild at the mo. Was down that way bout 3 weeks ago and again for the supercross in April.

[takitimu]

Not to bad still waiting on work permit had a 7 month holiday so far. Just keeping an eye out for another bike to rebuild at the mo. Was down that way bout 3 weeks ago and again for the supercross in April.

I'll give you a buzz if I head up that way, planning to come back just in time forMetLife sx.

7 month holiday is not shabby, you got the tail end of a good summer to, are you up the top of ct ?, she gets cool up there.

[barty5]

I'll give you a buzz if I head up that way, planning to come back just in time forMetLife sx.

7 month holiday is not shabby, you got the tail end of a good summer to, are you up the top of ct ?, she gets cool up there.

Smack in the middle Farmington Hartford wife is here on an Air Force project ( new helicopters) there is a whole group of us 5 other familes all here as well. If your back for metlife sx we'll be there staying just down the road from it ought tickets last month. Have try grab a beer someplace.

[takitimu]

Smack in the middle Farmington Hartford wife is here on an Air Force project ( new helicopters) there is a whole group of us 5 other familes all here as well. If your back for metlife sx we'll be there staying just down the road from it ought tickets last month. Have try grab a beer someplace.

A beer sounds a fine plan. I've not got tickets yet, going to wait until my trip is confirmed :). Must chase that up on the pretext of personal reasons.

Hartford, mmm, home of huck Finn, well Mark twain, or is that Samuel Clemens :). I went for a wander one weekend a few years back, ct is pretty cool, ton of cycle trails.

8 lanes of traffic each way on the bridge and 5mph, dang traffic.

[browny]

Smack in the middle Farmington Hartford wife is here on an Air Force project ( new helicopters) there is a whole group of us 5 other familes all here as well. If your back for metlife sx we'll be there staying just down the road from it ought tickets last month. Have try grab a beer someplace.

my cousin,niki is over there somewhere lookin at choppas for the airforce, you may may know her

[raglanash]

Mike Alessi. Dick move bro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df1x-leTu4g

[scott411]

Mike Alessi. Dick move bro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df1x-leTu4g

i think Alessi got plenty of hate, Pink (hows husband Carey Hart is one of the owners of tickles team) tweeted about it, 22.4 million pink fans would be rather nasty to have against you,

your right tho, horrible move, and I think he should have been parked for the night after it, $4k fine is pretty weak, considering he made more than that on teh night with the holeshot money

[raglanash]

Did ya catch any of Jeffs rant on Vital before it got taken down? Those guys really are a special breed of dickhead..

[Shorty_925]

I saw it there and went to next page and gone! Good for a laugh and time to kill. Carmicheal said it best about not living up to expectations : 294102

[raglanash]

Such a kook. I don't know what tangent he went on to get there but ended up calling RC a drug cheat.

[Shorty_925]

Yea I didnt know then this morning I read this from someone else who read a bit more before it was gone:

Jeff has a full meltdown after someone posted RC's response in the broadcast toward MA's takeout. after accusing RC of using PEDs (and alden baker supplying them to him), Jeff calls him (RC) the lance armstrong of MX/SX and the father of cheating in this sport.

Admins step in, have a behind the scenes father/son moment that is sure to cure Jeff once and for all of his ass-wipe-itis and poof...... gone

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mike Alessi. Dick move bro.
l]

What a clown.

[scott411]

Did ya catch any of Jeffs rant on Vital before it got taken down? Those guys really are a special breed of dickhead..

i caught the first post, but not the bit about RC, Man the Alessi's are a special sort of dickheads, the boys at Vital should really give them a cut because they are great for business, Jeff has had about 3 meltdowns on there, and the lasergate issue was just awesome,

[FlangMasterJ]

Haha "lasergate". Clever.

[barty5]

my cousin,niki is over there somewhere lookin at choppas for the airforce, you may may know her
Lol I shoukd do im married to her.

[takitimu]

Lol I shoukd do im married to her.

Gold, pure gold

[browny]

Lol I shoukd do im married to her.

small world.say hi

[raglanash]

Indy this weekend.
Bubba for the win, Roczen and RV take each other out. Wilson podiums on the 22 bike and Alessi gets punted.
250, boring PC guys up front all day.

Definitely maybe.

[scott411]

Indy this weekend.
Bubba for the win, Roczen and RV take each other out. Wilson podiums on the 22 bike and Alessi gets punted.
250, boring PC guys up front all day.

Definitely maybe.

well, i think your 450 picks are a little off, I say RV wins, Wilson 5-8th.

but your right about the 250F's Green up front,

[raglanash]

well, i think your 450 picks are a little off, I say RV wins, Wilson 5-8th.

but your right about the 250F's Green up front,

Thanks for the input Mr green undies..

Damn no Hondas in my picks.. Hahn went good last week hope he keeps on it, and Bogle for an outside chance at disrupting the PC crew.

Did ya hear Chad thinks the Kawi is slow stock bro? haha http://www.pulpmx.com/stories/decision

Obviously it would be fast enough for me though..

[scott411]

Thanks for the input Mr green undies..

Damn no Hondas in my picks.. Hahn went good last week hope he keeps on it, and Bogle for an outside chance at disrupting the PC crew.

Did ya hear Chad thinks the Kawi is slow stock bro? haha http://www.pulpmx.com/stories/decision

Obviously it would be fast enough for me though..

"all stock bikes are slow" that was an interesting article, i am surprised by the lack of talk at all about the yamaha, apprantly he did ride the new one, can't argue with the results tho,

the talk is Barcia wants off the Honda as well, and looks to be heading to JGR next year, be interesting to see who ends up on the factory honda, presume canard comes back, but maybe Peick,

[motor_mayhem]

"all stock bikes are slow" that was an interesting article, i am surprised by the lack of talk at all about the yamaha, apprantly he did ride the new one, can't argue with the results tho,

the talk is Barcia wants off the Honda as well, and looks to be heading to JGR next year, be interesting to see who ends up on the factory honda, presume canard comes back, but maybe Peick,

Did you hear/read in one of the recent articles that Reed was trying to get Milsaps to ride for 22 at the start of the season?

[raglanash]

Cole Seely on the Honda this weekend. Be lucky to get a top 10. Factory Honda is not looking good.

[scott411]

Did you hear/read in one of the recent articles that Reed was trying to get Milsaps to ride for 22 at the start of the season?

yeah their was some talk in december about MIlsaps shopping, apprantly the team had not paid some bonuses from last year, or that was what the rumor mill was saying,

the rumor mill, (which is mostly the vitalMX forum) is quite often wrong,

[Shorty_925]

Dunno if anyone else has seen these or mention them on here, but its simlar/same format as The Mot : Inside the outdoors. This time supcross and 5 episodes over 4 months. Here's two of them:

Ep 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJrJ192gR2M

Ep 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0q27F2YBs0

Ep 3 should be up within a week or so, due to air in the US over the next day or two.

The whole familes spending crazy money on kids is insane, and living by yourself since 13...? Raises alot of questions about the direction of the 'sport'.

[raglanash]

Got the RV Roczen bit right.. RV came back saved his night well. And 2 x Hondas on the podium, hard to believe.
Davalos has got to be pitted crashing out front again..

Tedesco's start crash, so lucky to get out of that one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJus9WohF7w

[raglanash]

Ep 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJrJ192gR2M

Ep 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0q27F2YBs0

Ep 3 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1e82nl_supercross-behind-the-dream-episode-3_auto

[scott411]

Dunno if anyone else has seen these or mention them on here, but its simlar/same format as The Mot : Inside the outdoors. This time supcross and 5 episodes over 4 months. Here's two of them:

Ep 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJrJ192gR2M

Ep 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0q27F2YBs0

Ep 3 should be up within a week or so, due to air in the US over the next day or two.

The whole familes spending crazy money on kids is insane, and living by yourself since 13...? Raises alot of questions about the direction of the 'sport'.

its not just there, there are a number of Kids from NZ that have spent huge time at MIlsaps, (one was even shown on the first episode), i would hate to think what their parents have put into it money wise,

i think taking your kid out of school to be a MX racer in NZ, is dam near child abuse,

[scott411]

Got the RV Roczen bit right.. RV came back saved his night well. And 2 x Hondas on the podium, hard to believe.
Davalos has got to be pitted crashing out front again..

Tedesco's start crash, so lucky to get out of that one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJus9WohF7w

crazy night for sure, track was nasty, RV got out of a bad situation pretty dam good, if you go down on the first corner, you want the two guy close to you in the points with ya, he is 2 points off a whole race lead now, he will be pretty hard to peg back, thought Alessi might get a podium, but cool to see Eli back up there, and cool for Seely to get the factory honda up there as well,

AC has impressed me, Davalos is making rookie mistakes, , that quad AC was doing was pretty impressive,

[thorns]

Looks like we dont get TV coverage of Daytona here this weekend, cant see it on Sky at all.
I'm guessing this is because Daytona is run by others, not Feld, would that be correct?

[barty5]

Looks like we dont get TV coverage of Daytona here this weekend, cant see it on Sky at all.
I'm guessing this is because Daytona is run by others, not Feld, would that be correct?

Im living in the US and for couple a weeks it was delayed coverage by 24 hrs due to Nascar and boxing might find it they have done the same for what ever reason.
Although not long to go for New Jersey round get to go to that round.

[scott411]

we dont normally get daytona as its not in the TV package that Feld does,

[thorns]

http://lag10.com/channel33

Live streaming, quality stream.

[thorns]

http://www.justin.tv/nascar49low

Other one switched to basketball.

[jasonu]

Im living in the US and for couple a weeks it was delayed coverage by 24 hrs due to Nascar and boxing might find it they have done the same for what ever reason.
Although not long to go for New Jersey round get to go to that round.

Not here up in the Norfwest. All live to air of Fox Sports 1. The Daytona coverage looked a bit different to the usual top quality broadcast. Lots of ooohhhs and aahhhs from the crowd but no replays to see what happened.

[MOTOXXX]

OH Yea!
Just moved to canada from Wellington late last year.
Off to the Toronto AMA Super Cross next weekend at the Rogers Center.
Got tickets to see practice and qual and good seats for the racing.

Never been before so looking forward to checking it out live.

[raglanash]

AC continues to impress, Davalos continues to fail..

The #7 looked good out front. RV let him have it eh Scott..
Barcia seems to be riding like a bigger dick each week, Seely was showing him up until he crashed.

Deano punts Alessi and the team goes on Vital with their own footage and has a cry. WTF. And they create a new term.. Allessied. If it actually was them, total marketing stupidity.
That term will stick though.

[Jay GTI]

Gutted K-Roc was a lap down due to a mechanical and is now sitting in 4th. RV hasn't totally dominated, but he's yet to have a shocker round, which every other possible challenger has.

Realistically, for Dungey to have a hope in hell, it's going to require at least one DNF from RV, which I don't see happening. Roczen and Stewart are too far behind now.

[scott411]

AC continues to impress, Davalos continues to fail..

The #7 looked good out front. RV let him have it eh Scott..
Barcia seems to be riding like a bigger dick each week, Seely was showing him up until he crashed.

Deano punts Alessi and the team goes on Vital with their own footage and has a cry. WTF. And they create a new term.. Allessied. If it actually was them, total marketing stupidity.
That term will stick though.

I doubt he could have pulled 5 seconds on him, he took to long to get past Seely, and i doubt he would have tried anyway, 30 point lead and all,

AC is really impressing me tho, his riding is awesome, and he is just not making the mistakes, I think PC will sweep that coast, Boogle was better on the weekend tho,

[scott411]

as for Moto Conepts, man they need a new marketing person, they are Horrible at it,

[takitimu]

as for Moto Conepts, man they need a new marketing person, they are Horrible at it,

I feel for the guy funding that team, I am so unsure why he is doing it.

I think if you give Jeff Alessi the details for your vital login, you get what you deserve, kidding, I have no idea that he did it, but it was pretty naive I have to say.

[scott411]

I feel for the guy funding that team, I am so unsure why he is doing it.

I think if you give Jeff Alessi the details for your vital login, you get what you deserve, kidding, I have no idea that he did it, but it was pretty naive I have to say.

yes, if the Alessi's are living proof on why you should not home school your kids and make motocross the only option,

[takitimu]

yes, if the Alessi's are living proof on why you should not home school your kids and make motocross the only option,

Or living proof that sporting parents gone wild is scary :). Random aside, tickets just booked for Metlife Apr 26 woohoo.

[scott411]

Or living proof that sporting parents gone wild is scary :). Random aside, tickets just booked for Metlife Apr 26 woohoo.

hope they pull a big crowd there, have not been to the New York area for a long time, be interesting to see how it goes,

[takitimu]

hope they pull a big crowd there, have not been to the New York area for a long time, be interesting to see how it goes,

If the ticket map is being honest it'll be a sellout, figure 85% sold now, if not more. I did get a pit pass, my second sx & I won't make the mistake of turning up just for the main show again, I want to catch all the practice sessions.

I've got an apartment in hoboken for 2 months from mid april, so there's a free couch to crash on :).

[scott411]

If the ticket map is being honest it'll be a sellout, figure 85% sold now, if not more. I did get a pit pass, my second sx & I won't make the mistake of turning up just for the main show again, I want to catch all the practice sessions.

I've got an apartment in hoboken for 2 months from mid april, so there's a free couch to crash on :).

would love to but i am not really due any holidays around that time,

[FlangMasterJ]

The latest round was amazing.

8K4zuLBu4cw

[scott411]

The latest round was amazing.



James was unstoppable tonight, a lot like Chads A2 ride IMO, the two sections he was doing that no one else was were amazing,

they say you win championships on your bad days, and RV's 6th was gutting it out,

was gutted for AC, you have to admire his determination to try and get back out there after getting his shoulder put back in,

[MOTOXXX]

I went to the Toronto round last night, it was one of the best shows i've ever seen. The yanks sure do know how to put on a show.
Kevin Winham came out and opened the show and did a few transitions.

I managed to get a track walk pass, the dirt was very soft and the maintenance machines came out every 3 races to fix up all the ruts.

Stewart was amazing to watch live, he is some kind of freak to be able to ride at those speeds.

[raglanash]

Awesome to see the 7 ride like that. And a Honda won the lite's !

[scott411]

Awesome to see the 7 ride like that. And a Honda won the lite's !

it looked like Barcia would get his first win, but he was horrible in that long rythem section,

Roczen was average last night as well, holeshoting and going back to 5th

[Jay GTI]

it looked like Barcia would get his first win, but he was horrible in that long rythem section,

Roczen was average last night as well, holeshoting and going back to 5th

Roczen was average last week as well, even without the mechanical (wasn't looking great in qualifying). I'm hoping the rumours about his switch to RCH next year aren't true, in that he's buttoned off because this is his last season on orange and he's not committed to the current team anymore.

[scott411]

Roczen was average last week as well, even without the mechanical (wasn't looking great in qualifying). I'm hoping the rumours about his switch to RCH next year aren't true, in that he's buttoned off because this is his last season on orange and he's not committed to the current team anymore.

i doubt that, I wonder if all the weeks in a row are catching up on him, the SX series is a killer like that, he still has the whole outdoors and it will be interesting to see if he can stay with RV outdoors,

[Jay GTI]

i doubt that, I wonder if all the weeks in a row are catching up on him, the SX series is a killer like that, he still has the whole outdoors and it will be interesting to see if he can stay with RV outdoors,

True, even though he's got plenty of experience, first season of 450s, with a heavy schedule and one of the fastest fields to race against for a long time, will all definitely be taking it's toll. He had a decent fall at Indy too, might have knocked him back a bit.

[FlangMasterJ]

it looked like Barcia would get his first win, but he was horrible in that long rythem section,

Roczen was average last night as well, holeshoting and going back to 5th

Yep Barcia just couldn't figure that section out. He was doing that wheelie to seat bounce that James was doing.

[scott411]

Yep Barcia just couldn't figure that section out. He was doing that wheelie to seat bounce that James was doing.

he and dungey were stepping on and off the first section, which seemed to put them out of whack, Stew and RV where getting over the table top and it seemed to flow better, esp when Stew quaded the middle section, apprantly Brayton was doing that rythem as well,

[MOTOXXX]

a few pics from the weekend...

[raglanash]

Straight up win for #7 over RV? Or did he let him have it...
Either way he's got this championship in the bag.
Dungey totally blew it !

[scott411]

Straight up win for #7 over RV? Or did he let him have it...
Either way he's got this championship in the bag.
Dungey totally blew it !

I am not sure RV could have beat him, but your right, no point going after it when Dungey was a couple of places back, and Dungey made the mistake on the last lap which will cost him 2nd in teh championship i think, Stew is riding awesome at the moment, 35 points with 4 races to go will be pretty hard to beat, only has to get 4th in every round to win,

Davalos showed some guts under pressure to, hes crashed our of the lead so many times over the years, and this one was with the red plate,

[Jay GTI]

No sign of the stomach issues that affected him last week, that is the only thing that could really stop RV from taking another championship, so naturally he'll be riding smart. Not much point risking injury, when keeping one foot on the podium in the next 4 rounds will get him the overall.

[FlangMasterJ]

Part 4 of Behind the Dream.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kqttd_supercross-behind-the-dream-episode-4_auto

[scott411]

Part 4 of Behind the Dream.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kqttd_supercross-behind-the-dream-episode-4_auto

taking your kid out of school at 7 years old to practice moto, this sport is screwed up,

[ktm84mxc]

Not really parents have put time,effort, money into all kinds of sport be it tennis, golf, soccer etc . When you can make millions at it there will always be some who see it as a way out for their kids and a chance they never had other then a lottery win.
The season has been a good one not one rider really dominating , but the riders who makes the least mistakes/bad days is sure to win RVP.

[barty5]

FRAM TV Commercial -- Tricycle: http://youtu.be/bx4p7weQne4

[scott411]

well RV layed a pretty good smack down on everyone tongiht, JS was sick, Dungey went down on the first lap,

44 points with 3 rounds to go, it will be hard to lose it from here, but they are saying its a 50% chance of rain in Seatle next week and that is an open air stadium,

[barty5]

well RV layed a pretty good smack down on everyone tongiht, JS was sick, Dungey went down on the first lap,

44 points with 3 rounds to go, it will be hard to lose it from here, but they are saying its a 50% chance of rain in Seatle next week and that is an open air stadium,

Hmm. Not a huge rv fan he has been braging bout it here for ages even the latest adds he states "Kawasaki will win a championship ever year as long as I ride one."

[raglanash]

well RV layed a pretty good smack down on everyone tongiht, JS was sick, Dungey went down on the first lap,

44 points with 3 rounds to go, it will be hard to lose it from here, but they are saying its a 50% chance of rain in Seatle next week and that is an open air stadium,

He sure did. Dungey, opportunity lost to grab points on the #7 bro. Shame Hill crashed he looked good.

[scott411]

Hmm. Not a huge rv fan he has been braging bout it here for ages even the latest adds he states "Kawasaki will win a championship ever year as long as I ride one."

i thought it said Kawasaki has won a championship every year i have ridden one,

[FlangMasterJ]

Dammit I thought RV was going to have trouble after his crash and drop more points to James.

Big Stewart fan. Seriously the times he has missed a season or crashed out I've pretty much not bothered to watch those championships. He just brings so much excitement to the races.


Just watched the 250's. Anderson is riding so smooth. Why was Dean Wilson so upset at the end of the race?

[thorns]

Dammit I thought RV was going to have trouble after his crash and drop more points to James.

Big Stewart fan. Seriously the times he has missed a season or crashed out I've pretty much not bothered to watch those championships. He just brings so much excitement to the races.


Just watched the 250's. Anderson is riding so smooth. Why was Dean Wilson so upset at the end of the race?

I think he injured his shoulder in practice, so was riding in pain for the main.

Bit of a let down that race after the last couple, RV just in a league of his own last night.

I Just hoping now that no one else gets injured, and we get a healthy starting gate stacked with the top riders at Glen Helen for the outdoors.

[scott411]

Dammit I thought RV was going to have trouble after his crash and drop more points to James.

Big Stewart fan. Seriously the times he has missed a season or crashed out I've pretty much not bothered to watch those championships. He just brings so much excitement to the races.


Just watched the 250's. Anderson is riding so smooth. Why was Dean Wilson so upset at the end of the race?

agreed last night was pretty boring, i much prefer to see RV start last, pass everyone and win that way, but ill take a holeshot and pull away and win anyway ;)

Wilson apprantly hurt his shoulder in the heat race crash, that is why he looked upset after the main, he put a hell of a charge in the last couple of laps, I think he made a mistake going to the inside of the split lain on the last lap, no on made that line work all night, he may have been able to get close enough for a block pass on the last corner had we tried to get closer,

[barty5]

i thought it said Kawasaki has won a championship every year i have ridden one,

Add says I think a championship can be won every year ill be racing for Kawasaki. Way it comes across make it sound like no one else can do it little smug for my liking. I know you have to have convinced an all but is a bit of a cocky comment.

[scott411]

Add says I think a championship can be won every year ill be racing for Kawasaki. Way it comes across make it sound like no one else can do it little smug for my liking. I know you have to have convinced an all but is a bit of a cocky comment.

can you remember how cocky RC and MC were in their time, RC in a king uniform made the whole crowd boo him,

Reed is another one who was cocky as fuck, but when he got older he got humbler and made more fans, Stewart is going though a similar transition now,

i bet it would be hard not to be cocky with 4 championships is a row,

not sure a scripted add is what i would judge anyone off anyway,

RV's interview style does not really help him IMO, although some of the stuff he does on pulpmx is way more human, but most of the time he does not look like he is loving it up there like someone like Roczen does,

but i dont care about being RV's # 1 fanboy on here, hes won this title alot different to the previous years, more consistant, and less raw speed showings,

[ktm84mxc]

Have to agree with Scott some don't interview well , some are like hyped up teenagers, some see it as a job, some are happy to be living the dream[as we all would],
You don't get to the top and stay there with out a huge slice of self confidence and belief that you own the top spot, Stefan Everts was a classic example the greatest modern day MX rider.

[scott411]

Have to agree with Scott some don't interview well , some are like hyped up teenagers, some see it as a job, some are happy to be living the dream[as we all would],
You don't get to the top and stay there with out a huge slice of self confidence and belief that you own the top spot, Stefan Everts was a classic example the greatest modern day MX rider.

big call saying Everts is the best modern day MX rider, I would say RC is, 10 MX titles in 10 years, but Everts is the greatest Euro ever for sure, and his last ride against Stewart at Matterly basin was pretty amazing,

I would have been very cool to see Everts VS RC for a season in Europe, as I think Everts would have gone a lot better than any of the US people would assume, with the difference in tracks and surfaces being a huge difference, where in america they are all prepped very similar,

[motor_mayhem]

can you remember how cocky RC and MC were in their time, RC in a king uniform made the whole crowd boo him,

Reed is another one who was cocky as fuck, but when he got older he got humbler and made more fans, Stewart is going though a similar transition now,

i bet it would be hard not to be cocky with 4 championships is a row,

not sure a scripted add is what i would judge anyone off anyway,

RV's interview style does not really help him IMO, although some of the stuff he does on pulpmx is way more human, but most of the time he does not look like he is loving it up there like someone like Roczen does,

but i dont care about being RV's # 1 fanboy on here, hes won this title alot different to the previous years, more consistant, and less raw speed showings,

They award the championship to the guy (or girl if CD gets there) who is the fastest over the rounds, not the one who interviews the best.

I gather in in sx/mx confidence in yourself and your abilities may not be everything but it's pretty high on the list of must have's and I think a side effect of that is appearing cocky.

I also think that it seems like Stewart's riding has really matured this year, he seems to be pushing to the edge in the right places, and would really be in the points hunt without that handlebar/header pipe collision.

Like all the riders except the 800 who can't admit when he was going to take someone out and Barcia who has put in some douchey passes this year, generally a big fan of CR, ET, CW.

[scott411]

RC vs Everts 2014

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Everts-vs-Carmichael,1268682

[barty5]

Like all the riders except the 800 who can't admit when he was going to take someone out and Barcia who has put in some douchey passes this year, generally a big fan of CR, ET, CW.

Reckon Alessi should give up on the 1st and 2nd heat races early on never makes it anyway save the energy and just come back for the semi heats which he dose well in might then be able to stay up front in the main. Not that im a fan of his just thing you notice while watching.

[scott411]

Reckon Alessi should give up on the 1st and 2nd heat races early on never makes it anyway save the energy and just come back for the semi heats which he dose well in might then be able to stay up front in the main. Not that im a fan of his just thing you notice while watching.

he has one a couple of heat races this year, and got the TV time that goes with it, the Crying at round 1 was the highlight,

they are off to Canada for their nationals, instead of the US nationals,

[Jay GTI]

RC vs Everts 2014

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Everts-vs-Carmichael,1268682

Where would you money go on this one Scott? RC is still bleating on about how much faster he was than Everts (even though he admits the last MXoN they raced together Everts was far from on form). Both have obviously lost their race pace, but Everts still does a few club and charity races in Europe, RC is spending more time enjoying being retired.

[scott411]

Where would you money go on this one Scott? RC is still bleating on about how much faster he was than Everts (even though he admits the last MXoN they raced together Everts was far from on form). Both have obviously lost their race pace, but Everts still does a few club and charity races in Europe, RC is spending more time enjoying being retired.

the photos have seen of RC lately look like he is really enjoying retirement, but Everts looks pretty fit still,

Genk is an old school Euro track as well, which RC has never been really good on, so as long as the moto is long, I'll take Everts,

[ktm84mxc]

They should be racing at a sand track eg Lommel, Valkenswad , Mill and old school moto's 40 min + 2 laps . That's old school Euro MX for the hard men of MX.

[Lotus54]

I'm going to the Seattle Supercross (only about 90 miles east from here- with a ferry ride) this Saturday. I'm doing a trial Sunday (in Poulsbo- Villipotos home town) so I get to ride also.

I like going to watch practice and qualifying. You can wander around, see if from different angles/places. Those jumps are nuts!
I've yet to get to the Washugal MX- it's about 5 hours away and often hot and crowded. Maybe this year?

Who know what it will be like, they are claiming nice weather this week (rained today). I was there a few years ago when Windham lapped up to 2nd place!

[scott411]

I'm going to the Seattle Supercross (only about 90 miles east from here- with a ferry ride) this Saturday. I'm doing a trial Sunday (in Poulsbo- Villipotos home town) so I get to ride also.

I like going to watch practice and qualifying. You can wander around, see if from different angles/places. Those jumps are nuts!
I've yet to get to the Washugal MX- it's about 5 hours away and often hot and crowded. Maybe this year?

Who know what it will be like, they are claiming nice weather this week (rained today). I was there a few years ago when Windham lapped up to 2nd place!

I agree, teh Practice is a cool thing to watch, and much better to take photos of the riders as you can get close around different parts of the stadium,

I have been to the Washougal National, I was a mechanic for a NZ rider over there so did not really get to see many races, but the park is one of the best i have ever been to, alot of trees for shade, although it does stop you seeing a bit at times, but it was easy to walk around and see different spots,

[scott411]

RV again, he seems to have found his mojo, interesting to see James have 3 or 4 massive moments, he was giving everything to catch RV, and you have to respect that, how on earth he saved that front wheel case on that qaud ill never know, they will would be picking parts of me out of that if it was me, 3 more points needed to wrap it up, also 5 wins this season, be interesting to see who ends up with more wins, RV or JS,

Seely rode well, but Anderson looked like he was trying to throw it away, he needed to back it down a bit,

[FlangMasterJ]

I can't find the latest race anywhere. There used to be a few guys uploading it to youtube in HD. All I can find is a horrible 360p version.

Might have to wait till slicknick uploads his torrent.

[motor_mayhem]

Slightly off topic but this might leave the outdoors wide open?

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1079483-so-rv-might-skip-the-outdoors-has-to-get-injury-fixed/

[scott411]

Slightly off topic but this might leave the outdoors wide open?

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1079483-so-rv-might-skip-the-outdoors-has-to-get-injury-fixed/

it was mentioned on Racer X, but blown off by RV on the weekend, it went something like I am going to get it checked but I would be suprised that anyone would not have niggles after 15 weekend straight racing,

only something like 6 riders have made every main event this year, from memory its the top 4 (RV, JS, RD and KR) plus Short and Alessi,

[takitimu]

RV again, he seems to have found his mojo, interesting to see James have 3 or 4 massive moments, he was giving everything to catch RV, and you have to respect that, how on earth he saved that front wheel case on that qaud ill never know, they will would be picking parts of me out of that if it was me, 3 more points needed to wrap it up, also 5 wins this season, be interesting to see who ends up with more wins, RV or JS,

Seely rode well, but Anderson looked like he was trying to throw it away, he needed to back it down a bit,

How he avoided his face contacting the bar was amazing, that had to have hurt. RV was flying his corner speed is stunning.

My favorite was JS showing how it's not just extreme guys who can ride the front wheel, but SX guys at full race pace.

[scott411]

How he avoided his face contacting the bar was amazing, that had to have hurt. RV was flying his corner speed is stunning.

My favorite was JS showing how it's not just extreme guys who can ride the front wheel, but SX guys at full race pace.

the Toyota triple challange finsihes this weekend, and with Barcia, RV, JS and Roczen all within 2 points of winning a truck they should put it on the line,

[takitimu]

the Toyota triple challange finsihes this weekend, and with Barcia, RV, JS and Roczen all within 2 points of winning a truck they should put it on the line,

Your in a rush Scott :), it's another two weeks @ Metlife.

1. James Stewart 39
2. Ryan Villopoto 38
3. Justin Barcia 38
4. Ken Roczen 37
5. Justin Brayton 31

I'll go on a limb here & say I think Roczen will win it.

[scott411]

Your in a rush Scott :), it's another two weeks @ Metlife.

1. James Stewart 39
2. Ryan Villopoto 38
3. Justin Barcia 38
4. Ken Roczen 37
5. Justin Brayton 31

I'll go on a limb here & say I think Roczen will win it.

I say either JS or RV, depends on which guy is on it, because the RV from the last 2 weeks is almost unbeatable, and the JS from the 3 weeks before that was as well, The both will be outdoor testing for at least some of the time,

[FlangMasterJ]

The final instalment of the Behind the Dream series. :headbang:

jVff6ivjWpk

[raglanash]

[QUOTE=FlangMasterJ;1130707112]The final instalment of the Behind the Dream series. :headbang:

Hey the full 43mins is here. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1o6zf6_supercross-behind-the-dream-episode-5_auto

[FlangMasterJ]

[QUOTE=FlangMasterJ;1130707112]The final instalment of the Behind the Dream series. :headbang:

Hey the full 43mins is here. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1o6zf6_supercross-behind-the-dream-episode-5_auto

Haha cheers mate.

[scott411]

great article by Jason Thomas here,
http://racerxonline.com/2014/04/15/breakdown-the-hidden-battle-in-seattle

I have really liked his insights this year, he is a guy that made a living in this sport for a long time, when others with more talent and speed have come and gone, he raced down in NZ once as well at the Mystry Creek Supercross

[Jay GTI]

great article by Jason Thomas here,
http://racerxonline.com/2014/04/15/breakdown-the-hidden-battle-in-seattle

I have really liked his insights this year, he is a guy that made a living in this sport for a long time, when others with more talent and speed have come and gone, he raced down in NZ once as well at the Mystry Creek Supercross

Yes a very good article. I kind of suspected that the last 2 races were more of a case of RV not having to ride safe and go for the points, he has the buffer to wind up to a full 100% and silence a few people who up until then were claiming (fairly) that JS was still the fastest guy out there this season, despite the points talley.

[scott411]

Yes a very good article. I kind of suspected that the last 2 races were more of a case of RV not having to ride safe and go for the points, he has the buffer to wind up to a full 100% and silence a few people who up until then were claiming (fairly) that JS was still the fastest guy out there this season, despite the points talley.

after Stewart passed RV at St Louis RV looked pissed as hell in the interviews, it looked like RC did when Reed was beating him in 04 at the end of the season, it hurt like hell, and that was straight up, I think he would not ride on the edge like JS tried to do last weekend,

[takitimu]

after Stewart passed RV at St Louis RV looked pissed as hell in the interviews, it looked like RC did when Reed was beating him in 04 at the end of the season, it hurt like hell, and that was straight up, I think he would not ride on the edge like JS tried to do last weekend,

See the rumors RV is out for the outdoors, I think it makes alot of sense. Seems to me he needs a break, 6 months to just unwind a bit.

I don't see how it's any easier for those guys than say Richie McCaw or Dan Carter.

[scott411]

See the rumors RV is out for the outdoors, I think it makes alot of sense. Seems to me he needs a break, 6 months to just unwind a bit.

I don't see how it's any easier for those guys than say Richie McCaw or Dan Carter.

I agree, I think they make a big deal of these guys racing 15 weekends in a row, NFL, rugby and league do it, Ice Hockey/NBA, Baseball and Football will play 2 or 3 times a week, although half of those games are at home, were SX travel every week,

it will be interesting, MC went to MX only to make his SX career longer, so did Windom, and Larrocco,

RC did miss a SX season due to injury, but that was the only one,

I was hoping for a CR22 VS RV1 battle of the KX450F's all summer ;) ;)

[takitimu]

I agree, I think they make a big deal of these guys racing 15 weekends in a row, NFL, rugby and league do it, Ice Hockey/NBA, Baseball and Football will play 2 or 3 times a week, although half of those games are at home, were SX travel every week,

it will be interesting, MC went to MX only to make his SX career longer, so did Windom, and Larrocco,

RC did miss a SX season due to injury, but that was the only one,

I was hoping for a CR22 VS RV1 battle of the KX450F's all summer ;) ;)

You'll have to make do with watching the KTM's of Dungey & Roczen dominating :).

I actually think it'll be interesting if Fox can do to MX what they've achieved with SX TV coverage, it's been a huge lift & I think MX covered right could be the better rating sport to be honest.

[cheese]

Late to the party here. But anyway my 2 cents

Alessi has been showing some amazing starts but can never hold it together past the first few laps. Not sure if its mental or physical with him. And Dungey has finally grown a set of balls and not riding like mr nice guy everywhere.

[jasonu]

Late to the party here. But anyway my 2 cents

Alessi has been showing some amazing starts but can never hold it together past the first few laps. Not sure if its mental or physical with him. And Dungey has finally grown a set of balls and not riding like mr nice guy everywhere.

He sets his bike up for the starts to get the holeshot bonus because he knows he is not good enough to get win or even place money.

[scott411]

He sets his bike up for the starts to get the holeshot bonus because he knows he is not good enough to get win or even place money.

RV has more holeshots in main events than Alessi this year,

he seems to be able to stay up front for the heat races, but your right, he's been dropping like a stone in the mains,

[barty5]

Looking forward to weekend heading to New York tonight for tomorrow's dawn parade at vets park then Metlife stadium Saturday for 2nd to last round. hoping the weather holds out ment to be some rain open roof stadium.

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

[takitimu]

I say either JS or RV, depends on which guy is on it, because the RV from the last 2 weeks is almost unbeatable, and the JS from the 3 weeks before that was as well, The both will be outdoor testing for at least some of the time,

I stand by kr :), fastest in practise and the track got a short dump of rain about 5:15, looks ok as long as not another rainfall.

Everyone got hauled inside earlier because they were worried about lightning, looks like racing will be on time though.

[scott411]

RV clinched with another dominating wire to wire win, 6 wins on the year, and has looked a step above everybody in the last 2 races, would be a brace man to bet against him next week, esp with Stewart looking like he damaged his knee,

[barty5]

Well last night was bloody awesome so much more to the racing that isnt shown on tv meet a ton of people everyone was really friendly.
Had some great seats even had a fully stocked bar at the top our seating (made for many short trips to top up)
And the rain just made it more exciting. Starting to think the 500 mile round trip for the outdoor will have to be added to the bucket list.

[scott411]

Well last night was bloody awesome so much more to the racing that isnt shown on tv meet a ton of people everyone was really friendly.
Had some great seats even had a fully stocked bar at the top our seating (made for many short trips to top up)
And the rain just made it more exciting. Starting to think the 500 mile round trip for the outdoor will have to be added to the bucket list.

outdoors are a different buzz, but still amazing, the SX "show" is just awesome, well worth the trip,

Unadilla is ment to be awesome, if you can get a camper to camp at the track i would reccomend it, but even just a day trip is well worth it,

[scott411]

well Sky screwed us again, saying it would be live and it wasn't,

RV won again, leading the last 80 laps of racing, 7 wins, 63 point gap in the end, pretty dominate performance,

Good to see another winner in the lites, with Yamaha getting its first win on their new 250F

[Jay GTI]

Dungey and Roczen 2 and 3, so 2 orange bikes on the final podium and championship, so I'm happy!

[barty5]

well Sky screwed us again, saying it would be live and it wasn't,

RV won again, leading the last 80 laps of racing, 7 wins, 63 point gap in the end, pretty dominate performance,

Good to see another winner in the lites, with Yamaha getting its first win on their new 250F

Got screwed here as well tbey thought it was more important to replay a baseball game so when I watched this morning missed the last 8 laps of the 450s. Would have stayed I p to watch but the time difference ment a 2am finish.

[scott411]

Got screwed here as well tbey thought it was more important to replay a baseball game so when I watched this morning missed the last 8 laps of the 450s. Would have stayed I p to watch but the time difference ment a 2am finish.

it was basketball that was played here as well,

now onto the outdoors, everyone except RV seems to be saying he will be missing, and then

[oldguy]

The All Time Supercross Wins List – All Classes

http://www.motoxaddicts.com/2014/05/04/the-all-time-supercross-wins-list-all-classes/