Shoei RF-1200 (NXR in EU)

[marine0089]

Hey guys,

I'm looking for an upgrade in the helmet department. After reading a lot of reviews and the ins and outs of the mid-range sport type helmets I've pretty much decided on the tried and true Shoei RF-1100. This just seems to be a great all round helmet and has countless reviews etc all over the world to back that up. Also being 3+ years old I can pick one up for around $500 (for the solid black) which is a pretty attractive price.

That being said, in the US and EU the Shoei RF-1200 (or NXR in the EU) which replaces the RF-1100 has been released. This is pretty much an improvement in every way on an already brilliant helmet.

My question is, has anyone got word of if/when NZ retailers may be stocking these? If so, any indication of price?

I figure it'd cost about NZD$800 to import from the states (that's $530 for helmet, $75 shipping with youshop, $90 for gst and ~$100 for any customs duty/extra charges but would obviously prefer to buy from a NZ shop.

[marine0089]

UPDATE: Just got a reply from Bits4Bikes saying that the helmet will be available form early March 2014. No real word on price however most likely similar to the current 1100.

Now, to import or not to import... Any disaster stories from importing?

[Gremlin]

Now, to import or not to import... Any disaster stories from importing?
Got a thread already on that: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/159933-Ordering-a-helmet-internationally

[marine0089]

Got a thread already on that: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/159933-Ordering-a-helmet-internationally

Cheers for the link Gremlin.

[f2dz]

I ordered my curent helmet from the states and got my brother to bring it back for me. The main thing I'd be conscious of new time is fitment. It doesn't fit me perfectly and I've had to slightly shape the liner at the front to accommodate for that, which isn't ideal.

But if you've tried on an RF1100 here and you know that the 1200 is the same shape and fit then I'd say go for it. Keep in mind you'll likely be hit by pretty decent shipping and customs charges though. My helmet cost me around $400 but if I had it shipped here it would've been close to $650.

[discotex]

I have a XR-1000 that's 6 years old. Was going to upgrade to the XR-1100 or X-Spirit. Then I saw the RF-1200 which has great graphics, pinlock insert in the box, plus emergency cheek pad removal.

I've got one inbound from the US right now with a dark smoke visor. I figure I'll about the same spend compared to what they decide on the NZ price. With how much I save on the visor I'm sure it'll work out ok. Plus the RF-1200 comes with a pinlock insert which the XR-1100 doesn't (to my knowledge).

It's not about the money for me. I've got 6 trackdays planned over summer so want a new helmet. I'd rather buy now from overseas vs who knows when for an XR-1200.. I also don't have to worry about which graphics are available locally.

I love the fit of my XR-1000 so I'm fairly happy ordering another Shoei online.

Some great photos ridersdiscount.com posted of various graphics on this forum. http://www.twowheelforum.com/showthread.php?p=512609

Can't wait for it to arrive. I've gone for the red Beacon. Fingers crossed on the colour :)

<img src="http://img.f.ridersdiscount.com/forum/shoei/shoei_rf1200_beacon_blk_red_tc1_rf_1200-1.jpg" width="600"></img>

[marine0089]

I've got one inbound from the US right now with a dark smoke visor.

This is exactly what I was thinking. The extra visor is cheaper in the US so that would help even out the NZ price once released.

Where did you order from? Are they sending directly to you or did you have to go through a mail forwarding service such as youshop.co.nz?

What's the ETA on it? Would be interested in knowing how much duty you have to pay as this is my only unknown.

Oh and nice gfx!

[discotex]

This is exactly what I was thinking. The extra visor is cheaper in the US so that would help even out the NZ price once released.

Where did you order from? Are they sending directly to you or did you have to go through a mail forwarding service such as youshop.co.nz?

What's the ETA on it? Would be interested in knowing how much duty you have to pay as this is my only unknown.

Oh and nice gfx!

Cheers :) Will post pics when it arrives. I was going to go matte black or the go oldschool with the Mystify TC-4 but changed my mind at the last second. What are you thinking of? They're all great looking. I normally don't like solids but the shape is so strong they really work. I love the wing that reminds me of a Lambo.

<img src="http://img.f.ridersdiscount.com/forum/shoei/shoei_rf1200_beacon_blk_red_tc1_rf_1200-4.jpg" width=300/>
<img src="http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/1948c796-d314-4dd0-931f-5ed9ef627091/670x377Image.jpg?p=110503_04%3A21" width="300"/>

I ordered from ridersdiscount.com. It was a 50/50 call between them and revzilla.com or sportbiketrackgear.com. They're all the same price and all reputable shops that put a lot into their stores.

Sadly Shoei has the retailers under US only so had to do YouShop. YouShop is in Oregon so the shipping from RD got held up in the big snow storm up there. Took 9 working days instead of 1-5 days. It's now on it's way to NZ so sometime in the next week I should get the customs fees and all that crap. http://www.whatsmyduty.org.nz/ should give you a good idea of the GST and fees. There's no duty on helmets thankfully.

Shipping in the US was free, YouShop was $98 + $6 for shipping insurance based on weight of 3kg and box of 41cm x 32cm x 33cm (12x12x16 inches).

With Christmas coming fast you might find you get held up so bear that in mind.

[marine0089]

Even though they have some great looking designs I was thinking of getting just the straight black version. Currently have a white/silver/black patterned shark helmet that although looked good for my last bike doesn't really go with the Red/Black of my CBR.

Straight black pretty much goes with everything and am hoping to have the helmet for a while to come.

[discotex]

Even though they have some great looking designs I was thinking of getting just the straight black version. Currently have a white/silver/black patterned shark helmet that although looked good for my last bike doesn't really go with the Red/Black of my CBR.

Straight black pretty much goes with everything and am hoping to have the helmet for a while to come.

Just realised we have almost the same bike - mine's an 08.. Totally get you.. That's why I was going matte black originally. Hope I don't end up with a major clash between the reds or it'll be :facepalm: then straight on trademe :woohoo:

[discotex]

Paid my GST and customs fees today so fingers crossed mine is delivered tomorrow. Fees were pretty much what the Customs site said they'd be. Will post some pics :)

[marine0089]

Ahh nice. That didn't take too long even with the extra Xmas load.

I'm hoping revzilla or the likes will have some sort of boxing day sale on them ;)

Fingers crossed its the same (or at least similar) shade as your bike!

[cc rider]

I put NXR on the shelf on Friday. Designs $800 Aus... less $$ for sold colours etc.

In stock:

Beacon Neon Red (Awesome) & Neon Yellow
Inception
Dutchess
Phantasm
Dominance (need to comfirm)
Sold Colours

Lighter in weight.

If you buy from Aust it had same compliance sticker

Accredited companies

Accredited companies that certify motorcycle helmets can be found on the JAS-ANZ website. As of September 2013, there are four JAS-ANZ accredited bodies that can certify motorcycle helmets to comply with AS/NZS 1698.
The four JAS-ANZ accredited bodies that can certify motorcycle helmets to comply with AS/NZS 1698

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Let me know if anyone wants me to arrange an order. Happy to help out. PM me.

cheers

CC

[marine0089]

I put NXR on the shelf on Friday. Designs $800 Aus... less $$ for sold colours etc.

Ahh that's awesome news!

How much for the solid colors? I'm just after the plan black.

You getting replacement (dark smoke) visors also?

[discotex]

So mine turned up today. Love the design. Definitely grabs attention on the street so hopefully does the same with cars. Best example of hi-vis being cool that I've seen. The design of the Beacon is amazing. The red is very close to the pics above. I tried to take some photos with my iPhone but the fluro-ness of the red freaks out the camera. Will try again tomorrow night.

Forgot how snug my XR-1000 was when i first got it. Hopefully the cheek pads soften up a bit like my XR-1000 did as it's on the tight side at the moment. The crown is fine though so worst case I'll fork out for some new cheek pads.

It's quite a different red to my bike but the matte finish means it seems to work ok. Having the black of the jacket in between breaks it up. Ideal match would be with a black bike. Hard to tell for sure as obviously I can't see myself on the bike - and cameras don't do the colours justice. I think I'll have to find a mirror :rolleyes::lol:

As for the design.. Well it's what you'd expect from Shoei. It's quieter on my bike than the XR-1000. Riding into a headwind it felt more stable. The visibility is great through the eye port. I used to tilt my helmet up for better upwards visibility on the track - won't need to do this with the RF-1200/NXR. It's also a better shape for tiling your head back in a tuck. Airflow seems about the same but I've only ridden home on the motorway. Hard to tell to be honest. Will report back after some more riding.

I was worried about the new visor as I use the little knob on the left side to crack my visor all the time. The new catch can be unlocked a crack so all good. Anyway, there's a pinlock insert in the box so you shouldn't need that anyway. Optically the smoke visor is amazing. I'm not sure if it's just that it's new but I literally forgot it was there at times and went to pull it down. It's a weird sensation.

Overall it's a 10/10 helmet. I really struggle to see why anyone would pay the extra for the X-Spirit over this puppy. The emergency cheek pads and fully removable liner, the pinlock in the box, the breath guard and chin curtain... Well it's got everything bar a smoke visor covered.

[marine0089]

Sounds pretty positive! Glad your happy with it.

It really does confirm my decision to source a rf-1200/nxr instead of settling for an old xr-1100. Shoei really seem to have made an already great helmet even better.

[cc rider]

Ahh that's awesome news!

How much for the solid colors? I'm just after the plan black.

You getting replacement (dark smoke) visors also?
Gidday marine


I'll get prices including postage Wed. Have some visors. Will post details Wed night.

cheers
CC

[Zippo]

Gidday marine


I'll get prices including postage Wed. Have some visors. Will post details Wed night.

cheers
CC

Hi CC

Do you have the Duchess in both colour schemes (white or black/pink)? I'm really wanting one, but I was going to wait until we get ours in NZ, but knowing how stock goes, we may not even get the Duchess here :( Just weighing up my options and figuring out how much I actually want another helmet :P

Cheers, Zippo

[JayRacer37]

I have a XR-1000 that's 6 years old. Was going to upgrade to the XR-1100 or X-Spirit. Then I saw the RF-1200 which has great graphics, pinlock insert in the box, plus emergency cheek pad removal.

I've got one inbound from the US right now with a dark smoke visor. I figure I'll about the same spend compared to what they decide on the NZ price. With how much I save on the visor I'm sure it'll work out ok. Plus the RF-1200 comes with a pinlock insert which the XR-1100 doesn't (to my knowledge).

It's not about the money for me. I've got 6 trackdays planned over summer so want a new helmet. I'd rather buy now from overseas vs who knows when for an XR-1200.. I also don't have to worry about which graphics are available locally.

I love the fit of my XR-1000 so I'm fairly happy ordering another Shoei online.

Some great photos ridersdiscount.com posted of various graphics on this forum. http://www.twowheelforum.com/showthread.php?p=512609

Can't wait for it to arrive. I've gone for the red Beacon. Fingers crossed on the colour :)


XR1100 does come with a pinlock - everything from CW-1 visor onwards (so X-Spirit2, XR1100, Qwest, GT-Air etc) has so that is standard across the Shoei range.


This is exactly what I was thinking. The extra visor is cheaper in the US so that would help even out the NZ price once released.

Where did you order from? Are they sending directly to you or did you have to go through a mail forwarding service such as youshop.co.nz?

What's the ETA on it? Would be interested in knowing how much duty you have to pay as this is my only unknown.

Oh and nice gfx!


So mine turned up today. Love the design. Definitely grabs attention on the street so hopefully does the same with cars. Best example of hi-vis being cool that I've seen. The design of the Beacon is amazing. The red is very close to the pics above. I tried to take some photos with my iPhone but the fluro-ness of the red freaks out the camera. Will try again tomorrow night.

Forgot how snug my XR-1000 was when i first got it. Hopefully the cheek pads soften up a bit like my XR-1000 did as it's on the tight side at the moment. The crown is fine though so worst case I'll fork out for some new cheek pads.
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Enjoy. The NXR's (as they will be called in NZ) will be landed here about March, we have a large amount of stock on the way. The NZ spec is the same graphic selection as Europe ( http://www.shoei-europe.com/uk/products/NXR/ ) and of course built to the EU standards not the antiquated DOT ones like the US - it means ours will be about 300gm lighter than any US imports. The shells are built to a very different shape to suit our heads, so don't be fooled by sizing unless you have tried on a DOT Shoei of the same model. Also, ones not grey imported have a full 5 year warranty, and the ability to tailor cheek pads to your fit with our Platinum Shoei stockists. Keep an eye out for them in a few months time!

Also, if you are in the market for a spectacular helmet at a great price, there are likely XR1100 specials in Shoei stockists across the country.

[pratik8890]

I have a XR-1000 that's 6 years old. Was going to upgrade to the XR-1100 or X-Spirit. Then I saw the RF-1200 which has great graphics, pinlock insert in the box, plus emergency cheek pad removal.

I've got one inbound from the US right now with a dark smoke visor. I figure I'll about the same spend compared to what they decide on the NZ price. With how much I save on the visor I'm sure it'll work out ok. Plus the RF-1200 comes with a pinlock insert which the XR-1100 doesn't (to my knowledge).

It's not about the money for me. I've got 6 trackdays planned over summer so want a new helmet. I'd rather buy now from overseas vs who knows when for an XR-1200.. I also don't have to worry about which graphics are available locally.

I love the fit of my XR-1000 so I'm fairly happy ordering another Shoei online.

Some great photos ridersdiscount.com posted of various graphics on this forum.

Can't wait for it to arrive. I've gone for the red Beacon. Fingers crossed on the colour :)




Those are some mean as helmets mate. :headbang:

[discotex]

XR1100 does come with a pinlock - everything from CW-1 visor onwards (so X-Spirit2, XR1100, Qwest, GT-Air etc) has so that is standard across the Shoei range.

I thought you got the pinlock compatible visor but still had to buy the insert. Great if that's included on the XR-1100 too.



Enjoy. The NXR's (as they will be called in NZ) will be landed here about March, we have a large amount of stock on the way.


This is great news. Hope you price them in line with the outgoing XR-1100. The RF-1200/NXR is a big upgrade on the XR-1000. Can't compare to the XR-1100 but in the US the RF-1200 is getting glowing reviews.



The NZ spec is the same graphic selection as Europe ( http://www.shoei-europe.com/uk/products/NXR/ ) and of course built to the EU standards not the antiquated DOT ones like the US - it means ours will be about 300gm lighter than any US imports.


I cannot believe the small (or any size to be honest) RF-1200 could be anywhere near 300gm lighter in the NXR version. It would be lighter than ANY other helmet on the market if that were the case. 30gm I could believe if they reinforce the shell a little somewhere.

As for the DOT thing. That's not true at all. The RF-1200 is built to Snell M2010/M2015 standard, not the DOT standard. The M2010 standard and the ECE 22.05 standard are almost identical. It's not hard to design a helmet that will pass M2010 and ECE 22.05. I don't believe Shoei makes two radically (if at all) different helmets given how close the spec is. They probably brand them differently to make it easier to label and deal with ongoing certification of batches etc.

I'd appreciate you sharing the weight of the NXR in small and I'll reveal the results from my kitchen scales on the RF-1200. I'm very interested to see how mine differs to the NXR. I'll compare my old XR-1000 as well when I bring it home from work.



The shells are built to a very different shape to suit our heads, so don't be fooled by sizing unless you have tried on a DOT Shoei of the same model.


Well having an XR-1000 and an RF-1200 side by side I can tell you the interior head shape is literally identical. My head fits both perfectly. Yes the RF-1200 was snug at first but thinking back 6 years ago my XR-1000 was too. The RF-1200 has already softened up. If Shoei are customising the shape for the US vs EU markets they're doing a terrible job :)

I get your point.. But really the bigger risk I was worried about was that Shoei might have changed head models between the XR-1000/RF-1000 and the NXR/RF-1200. The US reviews said that wasn't the case so I figured I'd take the punt.



Also, ones not grey imported have a full 5 year warranty, and the ability to tailor cheek pads to your fit with our Platinum Shoei stockists. Keep an eye out for them in a few months time!


Totally agree with this. From memory your top stockists all test rides as well which is a major benefit. Personally I trust Shoei that I don't need a warranty but yes buying local is always best. Helmet fit is paramount so you're always taking a risk with mail order of any kind. Parallel importing just makes returns a lot harder.

If it weren't for timing I'd be buying locally. It's not like I've saved any money with YouShop, GST and Customs fees. Perhaps $50 cheaper at best. However, I get to be the only person in NZ with the red Beacon for Summer :Punk:

Frankly I don't think you need to worry about mass parallel importing. The price is well over the $400 GST limit, US shops will only send to a US address so you need YouShop.. And if it's only a break even at US$0.81 to the kiwi dollar, it'll only get worse if the dollar drops. As soon as these are out in shops here it'd be too much hassle to bother importing one. Unless of course you RRP them above about $850 with graphics.



Also, if you are in the market for a spectacular helmet at a great price, there are likely XR1100 specials in Shoei stockists across the country.

Might need to make that more obvious online. Still $799 at Motomail and virtually nothing other than solids listed as in stock on whites.co.nz (in small). Personally, I can't buy something knowing there's a new model around the corner but a lot of people would probably be up for a good closeout deal.

[nzspokes]

The shells are built to a very different shape to suit our heads, so don't be fooled by sizing unless you have tried on a DOT Shoei of the same model.

Which head shape standard are you getting for NZ?

Interested as will be buying a GT Air early next year.

[cc rider]

Hi CC

Do you have the Duchess in both colour schemes (white or black/pink)?

Cheers, ZippoYes Zippo, have both.


I thought you got the pinlock compatible visor but still had to buy the insert. Great if that's included on the XR-1100 too.In Australia NXR & GT-Air come with a clear pinlock insert. Prob same as NZ.

All helmets sold here have a clear visor. Smoke is available for NXR $109.95
NXR, GT-AIR, X12, XR1100 & TX-Z are all pinlock ready as standard.

Plain/blank colours $719 - Graghics $799



Definitely buy local where possible. It is easier if a warranty issue arises.
Re- buying OC, I supose it depends if having a compliance sticker is a biggy for you. At least Aust/NZ are compatable. So I can't get pinged for non-compliant lid whenever I'm travelling across the ditch.

The Beacon Red is so vibrant. Is my fav :yes:

[nzspokes]

Yes Zippo, have both.

In Australia NXR & GT-Air come with a clear pinlock insert. Prob same as NZ.

All helmets sold here have a clear visor. Smoke is available for NXR $109.95
NXR, GT-AIR, X12, XR1100 & TX-Z are all pinlock ready as standard.

Plain/blank colours $719 - Graghics $799



Definitely buy local where possible. It is easier if a warranty issue arises.
Re- buying OC, I supose it depends if having a compliance sticker is a biggy for you. At least Aust/NZ are compatable. So I can't get pinged for non-compliant lid whenever I'm travelling across the ditch.

The Beacon Red is so vibrant. Is my fav :yes:

Hi CC

Do your GT-Air have the quick release buckle?

[JayRacer37]

I thought you got the pinlock compatible visor but still had to buy the insert. Great if that's included on the XR-1100 too.

Yeah, you do get the complete insert as standard - not a bad inclusion!


This is great news. Hope you price them in line with the outgoing XR-1100. The RF-1200/NXR is a big upgrade on the XR-1000. Can't compare to the XR-1100 but in the US the RF-1200 is getting glowing reviews.

I can't confirm what NZ retail will be at this point I'm sorry, but we are very aware the helmet market is a competitive one price wise!



I cannot believe the small (or any size to be honest) RF-1200 could be anywhere near 300gm lighter in the NXR version. It would be lighter than ANY other helmet on the market if that were the case. 30gm I could believe if they reinforce the shell a little somewhere.

As for the DOT thing. That's not true at all. The RF-1200 is built to Snell M2010/M2015 standard, not the DOT standard. The M2010 standard and the ECE 22.05 standard are almost identical. It's not hard to design a helmet that will pass M2010 and ECE 22.05. I don't believe Shoei makes two radically (if at all) different helmets given how close the spec is. They probably brand them differently to make it easier to label and deal with ongoing certification of batches etc.

I'd appreciate you sharing the weight of the NXR in small and I'll reveal the results from my kitchen scales on the RF-1200. I'm very interested to see how mine differs to the NXR. I'll compare my old XR-1000 as well when I bring it home from work.

We will wait and see, if I can remember when we land one i'll grab it! Yes, we are hoping it will be a very light lid, but as with any and all Shoei designs, safety and aerodynamic weight are very, very important - anyone who has ridden in a cheap, extremely light helmet will attest to how flimsy they feel, how thin the EPS liner is, and how much hard work it is on your neck in a wind.

I could be wrong (yep, it's happened before) but to our understanding US models are built to DOT standard along with Snell - this could have changed as obviously we don't see too many of them here, but DOT's repeat penetrative test which has very little or no effect in real life (who repeatedly crashes a helmet into a pin?) means that anything achieving DOT standard has a significant weight disadvantage in the shell (right on the extremity where it makes the most difference in weight feel). Be good if they have changed it. As a non-Shoei example, the HJC HQ-1 Carbon helmet in my size was 1200g +/- 50gm from memory in ECE standard, and the DOT model was 1500g +/- 50gm.


Well having an XR-1000 and an RF-1200 side by side I can tell you the interior head shape is literally identical. My head fits both perfectly. Yes the RF-1200 was snug at first but thinking back 6 years ago my XR-1000 was too. The RF-1200 has already softened up. If Shoei are customising the shape for the US vs EU markets they're doing a terrible job :)

I get your point.. But really the bigger risk I was worried about was that Shoei might have changed head models between the XR-1000/RF-1000 and the NXR/RF-1200. The US reviews said that wasn't the case so I figured I'd take the punt.

The XR1000 was a little before my time but they have changed the shell shape design from those models. Notable changes too like the size and location of the visor port increasing visibility like you have noticed. Some big steps! Our shells do differ - not dramatically, but generally not as wide in the cheeks as the US, and less round than the Asian market ones. If you know, you'll be right, but it's an easy way to get caught out.


Totally agree with this. From memory your top stockists all test rides as well which is a major benefit. Personally I trust Shoei that I don't need a warranty but yes buying local is always best. Helmet fit is paramount so you're always taking a risk with mail order of any kind. Parallel importing just makes returns a lot harder.

Yeah, with the ability to import direct something very close, we need our stockists to be top notch and do as much as we can to support them to achieve this. A good example is that we have in our building in Hamilton two Shoei trained and approved service agents, one of whom has been to Japan for full training on all models at all levels. They take looking after their product seriously!


If it weren't for timing I'd be buying locally. It's not like I've saved any money with YouShop, GST and Customs fees. Perhaps $50 cheaper at best. However, I get to be the only person in NZ with the red Beacon for Summer :Punk:

Frankly I don't think you need to worry about mass parallel importing. The price is well over the $400 GST limit, US shops will only send to a US address so you need YouShop.. And if it's only a break even at US$0.81 to the kiwi dollar, it'll only get worse if the dollar drops. As soon as these are out in shops here it'd be too much hassle to bother importing one. Unless of course you RRP them above about $850 with graphics.

That's good to hear! A shame we have ended up behind the rest of the world in timing, usually these releases are timed so we all get product at the same time but clearly this time little ol' NZ is a wee bit behind :( Must say that your graphic looks sharp, and sadly not one we can even attempt to order.


Might need to make that more obvious online. Still $799 at Motomail and virtually nothing other than solids listed as in stock on whites.co.nz (in small). Personally, I can't buy something knowing there's a new model around the corner but a lot of people would probably be up for a good closeout deal.

All unofficial of course, likely online pricing won't change at this point but worth a call to a stockist. Me too, I'll hold on for the new one.


Which head shape standard are you getting for NZ?

Interested as will be buying a GT Air early next year.

EU only for us. There are three shell shapes; US, EU, and Asia. We buy everything with EU standard and sizing as it best fits the majority of Kiwi's heads, and we have varying cheek pad sizing available to tailor your fit.

[discotex]

We will wait and see, if I can remember when we land one i'll grab it! Yes, we are hoping it will be a very light lid, but as with any and all Shoei designs, safety and aerodynamic weight are very, very important - anyone who has ridden in a cheap, extremely light helmet will attest to how flimsy they feel, how thin the EPS liner is, and how much hard work it is on your neck in a wind.


Cool.. Will be really interesting to see if they manage to make them lighter in the NXR. Totally agree with the flimsy thing. I'd rather know I have something decent on my head.



I could be wrong (yep, it's happened before) but to our understanding US models are built to DOT standard along with Snell - this could have changed as obviously we don't see too many of them here, but DOT's repeat penetrative test which has very little or no effect in real life (who repeatedly crashes a helmet into a pin?) means that anything achieving DOT standard has a significant weight disadvantage in the shell (right on the extremity where it makes the most difference in weight feel). Be good if they have changed it. As a non-Shoei example, the HJC HQ-1 Carbon helmet in my size was 1200g +/- 50gm from memory in ECE standard, and the DOT model was 1500g +/- 50gm.


Ahh I think you might be thinking of the old Snell M2005 standard. That skewed designs because they used the same weight for S, M, L sizes and did the double impact. M2010/M2015 has changed to use the same head weights as ECE 22.05 to make the two standards compatible and allow one design for both certifications. Snell still does two impacts though.. But frankly if I'm ragdolling after a 150km/h crash (on the track of course) I think the double impact test has some validity.



Yeah, with the ability to import direct something very close, we need our stockists to be top notch and do as much as we can to support them to achieve this. A good example is that we have in our building in Hamilton two Shoei trained and approved service agents, one of whom has been to Japan for full training on all models at all levels. They take looking after their product seriously!


Shoei helmets probably sell themselves but little things like having shops know that whistling can be fixed by adjusting the visor plates would be good. I know a few people who had no idea you can do that.



That's good to hear! A shame we have ended up behind the rest of the world in timing, usually these releases are timed so we all get product at the same time but clearly this time little ol' NZ is a wee bit behind :( Must say that your graphic looks sharp, and sadly not one we can even attempt to order.


Gutted for kiwis that the NXR won't be in the Beacon but in a way I'm stoked. I'll be the only one on the road :cool: Weird that it is available in Aussie.. It looks like they have the RF-1200 graphics but under the NXR brand.

http://www.mcleodaccessories.com.au/CA2571B700170C18/page/Products-Our+Brands-SHOEI?OpenDocument&1=20-Products~&2=10-Our+Brands~&3=10-SHOEI~#nxr

Hopefully this means you'll be able to get some of the RF graphics as well?? Or do you think the Aussie model is a rebranded RF-1200.. The Aussie XR-1100 seems to be Snell M2010 rather than ECE 22.05 which is interesting. It's like it's the US cert/graphics but with the Euro naming. NXR seems to be doing the same thing.

[JayRacer37]

Hopefully this means you'll be able to get some of the RF graphics as well?? Or do you think the Aussie model is a rebranded RF-1200.. The Aussie XR-1100 seems to be Snell M2010 rather than ECE 22.05 which is interesting. It's like it's the US cert/graphics but with the Euro naming. NXR seems to be doing the same thing.

Our graphic range is pretty set. We buy in EU standard therefore we get the EU graphics - the ones we can see on Shoei-Europe. I can't talk about Australia as I just don't know, but I would guess in that case they buy from the Snell standards which is the US market. Anything branded RF, or X11/X12 not X-Spirit, is a US model as the rest of the world use XR1100, NXR, X-Spirit2 ETC. Graphics would normally differ along with that naming.

[discotex]

Our graphic range is pretty set. We buy in EU standard therefore we get the EU graphics - the ones we can see on Shoei-Europe. I can't talk about Australia as I just don't know, but I would guess in that case they buy from the Snell standards which is the US market. Anything branded RF, or X11/X12 not X-Spirit, is a US model as the rest of the world use XR1100, NXR, X-Spirit2 ETC. Graphics would normally differ along with that naming.

Been looking around online and it looks like the Aussie XR-1100 and NXR are definitely US graphics and Snell M2010 certified (and apparently the Australian AS/NZS 1698 standard which is legally required).

For some reason Shoei chooses to use the European names just to make things confusing. They really should come up with yet another name, or just call them the RF-1100/RF-1200 in Aussie if that is what they are. Totally bizarre :wacko:

[Grashopper]

Does anyone know yet, which ones of the NXR will be available here in XXS?

I'd really rather want to buy local, but that's how I ended up with a crap helmet last time. (Ok, that is a bit unfair. It is not totally crap, just noisy, drafty and not that comfy). If you have a head this small your choices are definitely limited.

[Moise]

Old thread I know, but just thought that I'd clarify a couple of things. I had to wait for a while to get an insurance payout on a helmet damaged in an accident, so did far too much research. :)

Shoei make different helmets for USA/Australia and Europe/NZ. The US shells are stronger and therefore heavier so that they can pass the Snell double impact and penetration test - the AS includes the latter. So the European helmets will probably result in lower g forces in a crash unless you hit a spike or the same part of the helmet hard twice. (The Snell 2010 onwards and ECE standards have similar test procedures, but expecting Snell to change their double impact requirement would be like National doing something about Auckland housing.)

The NXR weight difference seems to be about 150-200 g based on the weight of my XL and the figure given by Webbikeworld for the RF1200.

As an aside, it appears that Arai are now making a single helmet for both Europe and the USA. This may explain their poor ratings in the UK SHARP scheme and the helmet tests carried out by Motorrad magazine, which are both based on the ECE standard.

[geoffc]

Interesting reading guys. Decided to buy a NXR in Matt Black. Arriving later in the week. :yes:

[yomikey]

Hi guys, I am after some knowledge if possible. I have been wearing a Shoei XR1100 for the last few years and it is coming up due for replacement. The problem is I have an XL sized head and the XR replacement NXR is a different shape and will not fit. I have tried Arai, HJC, Bell, Shoei NXR and cannot get a good fit. Does anyone know if an RF1200 is bigger or smaller than the XR1100 ? Any other observaions?:brick:

[discotex]

What way doesn’t it fit? I went from an XR-1000 to a RF-1200 and the fit was identical aside from the cheek pads being tight. They loosened up nicely though.

[Berries]

I went from an XR1000 to an NXR and the fit is very much the same although it is a bit tighter when taking it off.

Has your head grown?

[yomikey]

I would like to say my head has grown due to excessive amount of knowledge but we all know bullshit when we hear it.:2thumbsup The nxr has 2 pressure point on my forehead causing headaches after about 5 minutes in the shop so I am too nervous about it on the bike.

[Cosmik de Bris]

I would like to say my head has grown due to excessive amount of knowledge but we all know bullshit when we hear it.:2thumbsup The nxr has 2 pressure point on my forehead causing headaches after about 5 minutes in the shop so I am too nervous about it on the bike.

It probably means your head is just not Shoei shaped. Which helmets do you find comfortable? People talk about Arai shaped heads etc. There is a list somewhere of the different head shapes and the matching helmet makes.

Cheers

[R650R]

Good thread. I want the 1200 in Trooper white scheme. Wondering about the cost vs NZ prices, not much once you factor shipping and customs/gst etc....

[pyroguy55]

My current bike is a bit more of an upright ride than my previous bikes and I am currently still running an XR-1000. Picking up my new GT-Air tomorrow though so after a few kms with it I shall let you all know what I think.

[Cosmik de Bris]

One thing I hadn't realised until recently was that some helmets are not suitable for sports bikes or those with clip-ons. I bought an AGV K5 just 'cause I liked it but the way it sits on my head combined with the low forehead bit means my neck is at an uncomfortable angle on my sports bike. It is OK on the flat but going up hill I have very limited vision. My Bell is OK. So if some of you, like me, have this problem be careful on your helmet choice.

Cheers

[R650R]

Anyone know when new shoei colours available in NZ?