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lenyboi4
10th December 2013, 10:00
Lately my interest has been growing and i really want a motard . i own a cbr400rr at the momentand wondering how fun are they really? and any good on the Open road? They seem like a blast but my other half is not so keen on me getn one of these bad boys but i am thinking really seroiusly about flogging the che cbr and pickig up a motard :) anyways:)

BigAl
10th December 2013, 10:58
Take one for a ride,

won't be as comfortable as the CBR on the open rd but all depends on how far you go and at what speed.

haydes55
10th December 2013, 11:17
The negatives:
Luggage is a challenge
Seats are usually on the harder side
No wind protection

The positives:
Lighter and easy to throw around town or twisties
Sit upright comfier and higher, better for commuting
They can go over kurbs and through median bushes without worry
Just more fun.

You won't regret going motard. Even a motard with less power than your CBR would be more fun.

Look at a drz400 or yammy wr450. If you can find a KTM 525/520/690/640 and can handle the short service intervals go that way.

Motards make speed bumps into speed jumps.

Devil
10th December 2013, 13:32
The negatives:
Luggage is a challenge
Seats are usually on the harder side
No wind protection

You won't regret going motard. Even a motard with less power than your CBR would be more fun.

Look at a drz400 or yammy wr450. If you can find a KTM 525/520/690/640 and can handle the short service intervals go that way.


Service intervals on a 690 are 10,000km.
Luggage isn't a major speaking from teh KTM perspective. Touratech is your friend. Throwover panniers are the easiest. Some bikes have the option of a Ventura pack rack.
Screens as well available for a few models.

oneblackflag
10th December 2013, 15:11
Look at a drz400 or yammy wr450. If you can find a KTM 525/520/690/640 and can handle the short service intervals go that way.

Motards make speed bumps into speed jumps.

Gotta agree with Haydes there ;).

Maybe if its going to be your sole bike go for something bigger like the 690. Great thing is with the motard you can always chuck some knobs on and go for an adventure.

I have the WR250r which is surprisingly quick up to the limit and keeps up with the bigger bikes I ride with... until the long hills or heavy head wind. I plan on keeping that as my motard/adventure bike but will upgrade to a bigger road bike as well at some stage.

Akzle
10th December 2013, 17:47
i have an opinion and some very strong feelings about things.

my choice for you,
is give me the cbr. then go and buy a motard. and give me that. after that i don't think you'll be any use to me.

lenyboi4
10th December 2013, 18:36
I tell u what i buy me a nice motard and ill hand over the cbr :) seriously if any1 knows sum1 with a nice tard who wants a very nice cbr let me know

SVboy
10th December 2013, 18:52
Another bike you might like to consider is an adventure bike eg Suzuki V Strom, Honda Transalp which look more roadlike but will
handle on the road similar to a Motard except heavier. They will still handle better than a road bike around town and tight bends. The
only negative I have found is the high seat but that is offset by the lighter handling.

You are not being serious I hope!

haydes55
10th December 2013, 20:25
You are not being serious I hope!




there is a bit of overlap between motards and dual purpose sometimes WR250 for example. Then there is a bit of an overlap between dual purpose and adventure bikes. V-strom is more dual purpose adventure than motard. Never the less would be a great all rounder. But I think the point of a motard is no frills urban fun.

george formby
10th December 2013, 20:25
I considered buying a CBR 400 RR a few years ago, briefly. The test ride was on a twisty road I knew well. By about the 5th corner I knew it would give me really bad habits & road manners, the bike just had to be ridden the way it was designed.
Motards are even worse at causing this. If you have no self restraint or sense of personal responsibility a decent motard will turn you into a cackling twat in 5km's or less.
Get a Munch Mammoth instead.

haydes55
10th December 2013, 20:42
I considered buying a CBR 400 RR a few years ago, briefly. The test ride was on a twisty road I knew well. By about the 5th corner I knew it would give me really bad habits & road manners, the bike just had to be ridden the way it was designed.

Motards are even worse at causing this. If you have no self restraint or sense of personal responsibility a decent motard will turn you into a cackling twat in 5km's or less.

Get a Munch Mammoth instead.









It's like Gremlins sig... Something like "if you haven't turned into a hooligan after swinging your leg over a KTM990SM, I'll eat my helmet"

Gremlin
10th December 2013, 22:38
It's like Gremlins sig... Something like "if you haven't turned into a hooligan after swinging your leg over a KTM990SM, I'll eat my helmet"
Something like that :innocent: and it wasn't even strictly a motard. Then again, if you thought a motard was fun, trying 100hp and a little more weight.

For a crazy motard, SXV550, I demo'd one with a race pipe fitted. Comfort was obviously horrible and non-existent, and you needed gas after 100km, but what a wicked 100km! :yes:

lenyboi4
12th December 2013, 10:54
Any opinion's on gas gas pampera 450?

george formby
12th December 2013, 17:30
Any opinion's on gas gas pampera 450?

Always hankered after the 250 2t but that's based on a trials bike. As wid any 4 fiddly 4t I would be looking at servicing frequency, parts availability & cost, ease of maintenance etc.
Met a guy a while back with a 4t Husaberg SM and he virtually had to change the oil after a weekends use, servicing was equally frequent. Mind you, he said it was hilarious to ride but kept him very poor.

lenyboi4
12th December 2013, 18:57
Whats the xr600r like found one worh 17's road tyres wof and rego new digital speedo looks good and it wheelies lol

haydes55
12th December 2013, 19:17
Whats the xr600r like found one worh 17's road tyres wof and rego new digital speedo looks good and it wheelies lol






I have lusted after a mint XR600 or 650, for a while.

XR series engines are great power, reliability and simple. My first ever bike engine was an XR125, then an XR200.

They would need a bit of work to be a good looking motard, but more than enough power and good/cheap service intervals.

I'd see if they had the stock wheels as well, then you could have a dual purpose and motard, more fun that way! Just ask some adventure riders how they rate an XR600.

leathel
13th December 2013, 07:25
I had a blast when I had a XR600, Loved it apart from kick starting after it had been dropped when I was knackered (dirt riding) but the 650 is electric start :D

This one has had very little use as it was purchased years ago as a spare bike when Friends visited but then they never went riding.... Hardly used for a long time, Getting used ATM and going well..... I seriously looked at it being a local bike but just couldn't justify spending the coin when I already have a XR250, DRZ400 and 2 cruisers :innocent:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-531145561.htm

haydes55
13th December 2013, 17:45
Tastey Tard (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-674457525.htm)

Watch this auction, if it goes cheap enough, that would be a great bike!

unstuck
13th December 2013, 18:20
but my other half is not so keen on me getn one of these bad boys

My advice is, try being a whole person, then you wouldn't have to worry about your "other half" telling you what to do.:msn-wink:

busadayz
13th December 2013, 19:48
Heres a bit of food for thought.
NZ's top superbikes are lapping Hampton Downs in the 1.04's, the top motard guys are lapping in 1.10's on well setup machines. 6 seconds in a race is a large margin, but put it into perspective and the motards punch way above their weight in the right hands. Not to mention the price difference.

TLDV8
14th December 2013, 00:16
The negatives:
Luggage is a challenge
Seats are usually on the harder side
No wind protection



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haydes55
14th December 2013, 06:46
That's an adventure bike.

husaberg
14th December 2013, 07:38
Lately my interest has been growing and i really want a motard . i own a cbr400rr at the momentand wondering how fun are they really? and any good on the Open road? They seem like a blast but my other half is not so keen on me getn one of these bad boys but i am thinking really seroiusly about flogging the che cbr and pickig up a motard :) anyways:)

Sound like you might really want a street fighter:shifty:
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Always hankered after the 250 2t but that's based on a trials bike. As wid any 4 fiddly 4t I would be looking at servicing frequency, parts availability & cost, ease of maintenance etc.
Met a guy a while back with a 4t Husaberg SM and he virtually had to change the oil after a weekends use, servicing was equally frequent. Mind you, he said it was hilarious to ride but kept him very poor.

The early Bergs had a rep for unreliability because people treated them like a jap 4 stroke trailie rather than what they were a full on competition bike that happened to be a 4 stroke.
This wasn't helped by the fact they held f-all oil. The guy you talked to treats the Berg right they are a connoisseurs bike they deserve to be treated to frequent oil changes.