F you windows 2000

[pyrocam]

a 'mate of mine' just formatted his hard drive with a backup drive to restore all his valuable 'data' files

unfortuantly on his reinstall of windows 2000 it decided to fucking format the third partition and install onto that (he was off having a smoke) he just lost 7GB of music and all his personal docs. lukily he has a 6 pack to consoul him but FUCK whats the deal with directx needing to 'validate you have a registered version of windows'


man....
running an illegal OS is getting harder and harder


.....
says my friend

[Ixion]

So why do it ? Linux free . Linux good. Ubuntu good . Free . Legal.

[pyrocam]

So why do it ? Linux free . Linux good. Ubuntu good . Free . Legal.
Been there done that. yes linux free but linux is harder to use.

we could easily go into a debate how linux is better than windows and yes in many ways it is. but for most people (I know several linux to windows converts) windows its just easier (im hitting myself for saying that)

also good games just dont run nicely on linux. im sorry.

[John]

whats the bet 'he' tried to convert the filesystem...?

I can safely say in my years and years of 2k this has only happened once, when I screwed up, wasnt thinking about what I was doing... guess you live and learn.

[pyrocam]

whats the bet he tried to convert the filesystem...?

I can safely say in my years and years of 2k this has only happened once, when I screwed up, wasnt thinking about what I was doing... guess you live and learn.

yes he did.
he had to install 95 then 98 to get 2000 to install
he said, yeah windows go right ahead and format my C: knowing that all HIS data was on D: E: F: and G: (partitions good) and so it goes oh well..... Ill just shit my pants all over HIS music and install right here

[bugjuice]

apple macintosh.

[skelstar]

apple macintosh.
Ditto here.

[Waylander]

yes he did.
he had to install 95 then 98 to get 2000 to install
he said, yeah windows go right ahead and format my C: knowing that all HIS data was on D: E: F: and G: (partitions good) and so it goes oh well..... Ill just shit my pants all over HIS music and install right here
Bet that's the last time y- I mean your friend:psst: tries doing it drunk aye mate.

[sAsLEX]

phew never had a problem with my """"original""""" copy of windows, neither have the few mates that have an awfully similar copy....

[bluninja]

a 'mate of mine' just formatted his hard drive with a backup drive to restore all his valuable 'data' files



Sticking files in a partition on the same hard drive is a backup?? :rofl: Your mate obviously deserve windows. :devil2:

[Racey Rider]

Talking partitions.
Can someone tell me how to increase the size off my C:/?

I have one 10Gb hard disk, partitioned at 2Gb C:/ and 8 Gb D:/.

I would like to take 1 Gb from D:/ and add into C:/.

Running window 98SE.

Thanks.
Racey.

[inlinefour]

If you thinkthat 2000 is an arse, you should check out Me. Its the biggest pisser that Ive come accross. Linux, not my scene and I could never understand the hassle with SP2 as everytime there was a hassle there was also a solution. However in saying that, should I ever have to reformat my desktop, it'll be 98se. Runs on any half decient computer like a cut cat. I also see that much like new gaming software, that new OS need so much more resources to run well. Don't see the point and the whole authentication/registration concept of XP had me seeing red. No worries though. Have a legit version of 98se and can still update it. Will be a total hassle when they stop the updates, although if I save them all prior, hopefully all will be sweet. :devil2:

[Teflon]

Talking partitions.
Can someone tell me how to increase the size off my C:/?

I have one 10Gb hard disk, partitioned at 2Gb C:/ and 8 Gb D:/.

I would like to take 1 Gb from D:/ and add into C:/.

Running window 98SE.

Thanks.
Racey.

You can use a dos program called 'fdisk. On reboot insert the 98 startup floopy disk, menu will appear, select "without cd-rom support".

After the A:\> prompt, type "fdisk", and follow the instructions.

Using fdisk you could have to reformat the patitions, (which means installing windows again). Same procedure as above, after the command prompt, type: format c:

Another program is patition magic.

Make sure you backup your files.

[Ixion]

You can use a dos program called 'fdisk. On reboot insert the 98 startup floopy disk, menu will appear, select "without cd-rom support".

After the A:\> prompt, type "fdisk", and follow the instructions.

Using fdisk you could have to reformat the patitions, (which means installing windows again). Same procedure as above, after the command prompt, type: format c:

Another program is patition magic.

Make sure you backup your files.

Do be aware that fdisk WILL erase ALL data in the partition . And it is very easy to get confused and erase all data on the whole disk. But certainly, all data on C: and D: WILL be erased. You will have to reinstall Windows and reload everything.

Partition Magic can SOMETIMES shuffle the partitions without losing data. But don't rely on it. make sure that anything you would not want to lose is backed up to a separate , other physical hard drive. And disconnect the power to that drive. I never trust a backup on the same physical volume. Even if whatever you are doing doesn't clobber your backup partition, I've known the partition table to be erased.

Backup, backup, backup, and then just to be on the safe side, backup all the backups. On separate media. And do a trial restore BEFORE deleting data. and verify the backups. And make sure that the backup is meaningful. A simple copy often won't work. You can copy the files back but the programs won't run. And even a backup using something like MS Backup won't work if you restore to a system with different hardware geometry.

You can make a very good estimate of how long a sysadmin has been in the game by the size of his backup cupboard. Huge cabinet, full, he's been there and has the scars.


Be afraid, folks, be very afraid.

[Ixion]

If you thinkthat 2000 is an arse, you should check out Me. Its the biggest pisser that Ive come accross. Linux, not my scene and I could never understand the hassle with SP2 as everytime there was a hassle there was also a solution. However in saying that, should I ever have to reformat my desktop, it'll be 98se. Runs on any half decient computer like a cut cat. I also see that much like new gaming software, that new OS need so much more resources to run well. Don't see the point and the whole authentication/registration concept of XP had me seeing red. No worries though. Have a legit version of 98se and can still update it. Will be a total hassle when they stop the updates, although if I save them all prior, hopefully all will be sweet. :devil2:

Everybody agrees about Malevolent Edition. Yeah, for a simple home user, 98Se was probably the best Windows. Adequate for the purpose, could do everything needed and not bloated out by the inclusion of a lot of stuff that's not relevant to home users.

Thing was , Microsoft didn't want to have to maintain two operating systems. They couldn't strategically drop NT4 the "business" level OS. So they dropped Win98 - and tried to hide the fact by calling NT5 Windows 2000. If you look at the technical info, Windows 2000 is always descrinbed as NT5. XP is NT5a.

XP Home is just a crippled XP Professional, which in turn is NT4 with some tweaks. Good for business, but a pain for home users.

[MSTRS]

Windows 2000 ???? :puke: THE worst OS they ever released. I 'upgraded' (shall we say) from W98 cos 2000 'would be better'. HA! For no apparent reason, 2000 deleted some critical files in the startup area (I think) which crashed the whole thing. Three times in four months. Each time I had to Norton Ghost the HDD, format, reinstall 2000, all my programs & then import the data previously ghosted. Then I got XP and never had a problem since.

[Coyote]

apple macintosh.
Commodore 64

[Biff]

a 'mate of mine' just formatted his hard drive with a backup drive to restore all his valuable 'data' files

unfortuantly on his reinstall of windows 2000 it decided to fucking format the third partition and install onto that (he was off having a smoke) he just lost 7GB of music and all his personal docs. lukily he has a 6 pack to consoul him but FUCK whats the deal with directx needing to 'validate you have a registered version of windows'


man....
running an illegal OS is getting harder and harder


.....
says my friend

Microshaft sure are fighting back hard. I installed a replacment secondary HD last week as my last one died (nothing important lost as I have an Iomega Zip for backing up files). After installing the drive I noticed that my Office Suite on my primary HD was asking to be validated again, even though I didn't touch the primary drive during the install of XP on the secondary drive. As I bought this office suite from a market stall in a country not known for having any copyright laws (disclaimer: It looked original, so I 'guessed' it was...), I couldn't as my registration key was no longer valid. I also noticed that Media player and Direct X wanted to re-validate themselves.

Confused the crap out of my how installing a new secondary drive can effect the progs on my primary unit.

[pyrocam]

Bet that's the last time y- I mean your friend:psst: tries doing it drunk aye mate.
ahhh yeash

still

its not as bad as he thought. the music backup is still there (he forgot about it) on a usb2.0 160GB drive at his work. but still its a shitter.

[Ixion]

..

Confused the crap out of my how installing a new secondary drive can effect the progs on my primary unit.

When you install most Microsoft products now, it saves a "picture" of your hardware setup - the entire hardware in computer ('tis actually a number based on some complex algoritms, but in effect it tells the software what hardware you have). Every time you start the software, it checks your hardware again, and compares to the original "picture". If the hardware has changed it wants re-validation.

Which is a right PITA for us geek types that constantly put new hardware in and take it out again.

The answer starts with a "L" , folks.

[pyrocam]

woohoo

1 big upside to the reformat is that now the firewire card that I thought was busted actually works now.

muhahaha

[dhunt]

Talking partitions.
Can someone tell me how to increase the size off my C:/?

I have one 10Gb hard disk, partitioned at 2Gb C:/ and 8 Gb D:/.

I would like to take 1 Gb from D:/ and add into C:/.

Running window 98SE.

Thanks.
Racey.
Either start from scratch again. Or get yourself a copy of Partition Magic, does wonders :)

[dhunt]

So why do it ? Linux free . Linux good. Ubuntu good . Free . Legal.
I 2nd that, Much better, more powerful and free. What more can you want :2thumbsup

[Jeremy]

Though of course eventually you become so geeky you either have Partner Pack or MSDN subscriptions. So you don't have to worry about anything, just remember to leave alone the DVDs marked "beta, don't use on primary computer". The Partner Pack is only $600 a year to memory. And that includes 10 copies of the current consumer version of just about everything microsoft makes. So that's 10x WinXP Home/Pro and 10x Office Pro. And one copy of the current server. As well as rolling updates during the year.

MSDN on the other hand is much nicer as it's "everything" but about $3000/year.

[Ixion]

Though of course eventually you become so geeky you either have Partner Pack or MSDN subscriptions. So you don't have to worry about anything, just remember to leave alone the DVDs marked "beta, don't use on primary computer". The Partner Pack is only $600 a year to memory. And that includes 10 copies of the current consumer version of just about everything microsoft makes. So that's 10x WinXP Home/Pro and 10x Office Pro. And one copy of the current server. As well as rolling updates during the year.

MSDN on the other hand is much nicer as it's "everything" but about $3000/year.


$5000 and odd actually, when I renewed a few months ago .

[mini_me]

Been there done that. yes linux free but linux is harder to use.

we could easily go into a debate how linux is better than windows and yes in many ways it is. but for most people (I know several linux to windows converts) windows its just easier (im hitting myself for saying that)

also good games just dont run nicely on linux. im sorry.

hey, linux is very user friendly...

it's just picky about who it calls friends :whistle: :whistle:

[N4CR]

I found win2k to be more reliable and less naggy than xp - after all it is the same kernel and most other system files, just not all flashy gui and little options in the bars and stuff.

Therefore less is generally stable - and this is true in 2k vs xp case.

I also dislike the 'XP WAY' which is nag the user for everything and protect them from harmless jpg's, even though system administrators and techhies are all newbs eh :|

If you want to get rid of validation like me, use corporate editions, and or education ones, generally they have no windows authing - install and use ;D
Education ones are legal from schools as long as the school itself has used the product on the computer it is installed one. Sneaky huh ;)

[John]

Volume Licence I think you mean...

Just certain CDKEY's and a INI change.

[Bonez]

Dislike XP myself. Win98, Linux and OS/2 in this house hold- :psst: XP is the ME of NT. Soon to be an OS X convert.

[Ixion]

Dislike XP myself. Win98, Linux and OS/2 in this house hold- :psst: XP is the ME of NT. Soon to be an OS X convert.

OS/2 ? Interesting. Not many still using it, though I always thought it was a damn good operating system. OS X is a Unix kernal so it should be stable at any rate.

I've never used Mac myself but everyone I know who has has been very pleased with it.

[John]

people who like porn like mac's must be some connection...

[Ixion]

people who like porn like mac's must be some connection...

But everybody likes porn! (Cept maybe Mr Zed)

[inlinefour]

But everybody likes porn! (Cept maybe Mr Zed)

Had a look at internet porn the first time I got a computer. The ext thing I know is I'm pulling the plug from the wall because the computer has jammed due to zillions of pop ups etc. Besides, why waste computer time on that when I can either be here or playing mindless violence. Plus, once I tried the real thing, anything else was unacceptable. Oh and I don't like Mac, must be why? :whocares:

[FlyingDutchMan]

Talking partitions.
Can someone tell me how to increase the size off my C:/?

I have one 10Gb hard disk, partitioned at 2Gb C:/ and 8 Gb D:/.

I would like to take 1 Gb from D:/ and add into C:/.

Running window 98SE.

Thanks.
Racey.

You could use partition magic or fdisk as other people were saying, but there is another progam out there which is free and has never stuffed up for me. It might be a little slow, but you get to keep all your data still.
Partion resizer: http://www.zeleps.com/

[Biff]

people who like porn like mac's must be some connection...

I was asked to conduct some research a couple of years ago on the anticipated growth of the tinternet over the next 10 years. An interesting fact I discovered was that within the first 3 months of owning a PC 70%+ of new users visited prawn sites, and that this constituted 80%+ of the bandwidth used, per household for a period. Within 4 months of owning a PC this (bandwidth) figure dropped to 40%+, and to virtually 0% within 6 months. I guess most people get bored or pissed off with the adverts/spyware/malicious dial-ups that are installed. Which leads me onto another thread I'm just about to post here.

Tinternet prawn is only a passing fad for many. I haven't looked at prawn on the tinternet for years now. Seen one prawn film seen 328.

[Sniper]

I still check on prawn every now and again. But I must say, its getting old

[Coyote]

I have no interest in prawn. I'm allergic to seafood

[Ramius]

Talking partitions.
Can someone tell me how to increase the size off my C:/?

I have one 10Gb hard disk, partitioned at 2Gb C:/ and 8 Gb D:/.

I would like to take 1 Gb from D:/ and add into C:/.

Running window 98SE.

Thanks.
Racey.

Partition magic 8 is the bee knees as long as you are not running Go Back. Go Back is evil!