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george formby
21st December 2013, 18:04
T'other day my McBollock chainsaw seized when I started it, $239 from Bunnings. It's 9 months old, done some very hard, hot, days but puleeeeeze. I cannot take it back as I have lost the receipt, well, misplaced it and have no record of the transaction. My credit card statements only go back 6 months. C'est la vie. Bunnings were very helpful but they needed something to go on.
It's junk now & I bought a Solo to replace it, proper chainsaw apparently, full crank! Phwoar! And it's bigger.
Any hoo, buying the Solo, oil mix came up in the conversation. I ran the Mcseized at the specified ratio, 40:1, but apparently this only applies to specific full synthetic oils otherwise it's 25:1. Whats up with that? Book says 40:1, the little gubbins on the chain saw says 40:1, how is a simple man to know?
Reading the Solo book it says 40:1 with Solo oil or Castrol TT super, otherwise 25:1. I'm using Castrol, it's blue 2t oil for chainsaw's, mowers etc. I use a premix bottle with the ratios on it to mix so I'm fairly confident of the ratio I have used.
What should I be using in my new Solo and at what ratio to ensure long life & eternal happiness?
I know there are one or two chainsaw fiends here, trees give them wood...:2thumbsup

Jantar
21st December 2013, 18:28
What should I be using in my new Solo and at what ratio to ensure long life & eternal happiness?
I know there are one or two chainsaw fiends here, trees give them wood...:2thumbsup
40:1 with synthetic oil, 25:1 with 2T oil. If in doubt run 25:1 and you won't do it any harm.

paturoa
21st December 2013, 18:48
Go to your bank or get online banking. Your cc records absolutely go back more than 6 months. Failing that give gcsb a call they will have a record.

Edit: and wot Jantar said has never failed me (never had a 2 smoke seize so far)

awa355
21st December 2013, 18:50
Been using a 630 Solo chainsaw for 3 years now, mainly for cutting up pellets and the hedge. I have always used mineral 2t oil at 25-1. It is still running the original plug, Keep the air filter clean and it will keep going. I have not had one ounce of trouble. A far cry from the early 1970's when using one in the forestry.

Drain the chainbar oil out before storing, otherwise the oil will seep out via the chain lube hole. Most makes will tell you to use 40/50 - 1 when using synthetic.

Tazz
21st December 2013, 19:28
Go to your bank or get online banking. Your cc records absolutely go back more than 6 months. Failing that give gcsb a call they will have a record.

x2 and if you don't want it anyway you've got a chainsaw to give to someone for Christmas!

Littleman
21st December 2013, 19:40
Husqvarna.

Akzle
21st December 2013, 19:42
oil gets mixed according to the OILs ratio. Ignore manual.
Over mixing fouls plugs, as jatnard got at. Under mix seizes engines...

jasonu
21st December 2013, 19:47
T'other day my McBollock chainsaw seized when I started it, $239 from Bunnings. It's 9 months old, done some very hard, hot, days but puleeeeeze. I cannot take it back as I have lost the receipt, well, misplaced it and have no record of the transaction. My credit card statements only go back 6 months. C'est la vie. Bunnings were very helpful but they needed something to go on.
It's junk now & I bought a Solo to replace it, proper chainsaw apparently, full crank! Phwoar! And it's bigger.
Any hoo, buying the Solo, oil mix came up in the conversation. I ran the Mcseized at the specified ratio, 40:1, but apparently this only applies to specific full synthetic oils otherwise it's 25:1. Whats up with that? Book says 40:1, the little gubbins on the chain saw says 40:1, how is a simple man to know?
Reading the Solo book it says 40:1 with Solo oil or Castrol TT super, otherwise 25:1. I'm using Castrol, it's blue 2t oil for chainsaw's, mowers etc. I use a premix bottle with the ratios on it to mix so I'm fairly confident of the ratio I have used.
What should I be using in my new Solo and at what ratio to ensure long life & eternal happiness?
I know there are one or two chainsaw fiends here, trees give them wood...:2thumbsup

Your biggest mistake was not buying a decient make like Stihl or particularly Husqvarna. You pay more up front but will get a saw that will start, cut and last forever if properly treated.

Wannabiker
21st December 2013, 20:12
Oil ratio to the engine manufacturers specs. They are the ones that have done the metallurgy and will be the ones providing the warranty...

25:1 is a common mix for weed-whackers and saws on mineral oil. I would not go any lighter than 40:1 with synthetic, despite what the oil bottle may say. (Oil is the coolant in these engines). I commonly use 32:1 as it is the recommended mix for my model aircraft engines (150cc twins),and dirt bike. Also used in my saw, weed-eater, water-blaster, and mower....and sometimes he road bike when it is getting low!


Stihl HP Ultra is one of the better synthetics for saws. Stihl recommend 50:1 in their saws with this oil, but I would go to the engine manufacturers ratio for your saw. Redline make a good synthetic as well.

291277

150c twin, twin tuned exhausts

george formby
21st December 2013, 20:51
Husqvarna.

That's exactly what is stamped on the metal plate at the back of my Mcseized. The reason why I bought that rather than a Ryobi. No thanks.

george formby
21st December 2013, 20:57
Oil ratio to the engine manufacturers specs. They are the ones that have done the metallurgy and will be the ones providing the warranty...

25:1 is a common mix for weed-whackers and saws on mineral oil. I would not go any lighter than 40:1 with synthetic, despite what the oil bottle may say. (Oil is the coolant in these engines). I commonly use 32:1 as it is the recommended mix for my model aircraft engines (150cc twins),and dirt bike. Also used in my saw, weed-eater, water-blaster, and mower....and sometimes he road bike when it is getting low!


Stihl HP Ultra is one of the better synthetics for saws. Stihl recommend 50:1 in their saws with this oil, but I would go to the engine manufacturers ratio for your saw. Redline make a good synthetic as well.

291277

150c twin, twin tuned exhausts

Cheers. I'm running the Solo on 25:1 Castrol but unsure of what else to use. The info on the 7 different bottles at me local hardware shop is shoite " suitable for mowers, strimmers, chainsaws, nasal hair trimmers, etc". Mineral, semi synth, full synth.. not a word.

What about the full synthetic I use in my water cooled 2t DT?

scott411
21st December 2013, 22:07
Cheers. I'm running the Solo on 25:1 Castrol but unsure of what else to use. The info on the 7 different bottles at me local hardware shop is shoite " suitable for mowers, strimmers, chainsaws, nasal hair trimmers, etc". Mineral, semi synth, full synth.. not a word.

What about the full synthetic I use in my water cooled 2t DT?

i run my weedeater and chain saw on my 2 stroke bike gas, which i run full synthetic oil at 32:1, probably overkill for them both but the gas is mixed and sitting there,

i used to be a stihl dealer and if you can good oil you could run 50:1 with out an issue,

geoffc
22nd December 2013, 07:55
Heard of at least two chainsaws that have seized recently after 1:40 mix was fed to them. Mineral 2 stroke not synthetic. What made it interesting was the local garage prepared the mix. Two very unhappy customers. One of the chainsaws was a Husqvarna I believe. :weep:

Katman
22nd December 2013, 13:43
oil gets mixed according to the OILs ratio. Ignore manual.
Over mixing fouls plugs, as jatnard got at. Under mix seizes engines...

Over mixing also has the ability to seize.

It has the effect of making the engine run lean.

Winston001
22nd December 2013, 22:32
One word - Stihl

Winston001
22nd December 2013, 22:48
T'other day my McBollock chainsaw seized when I started it, $239 from Bunnings. It's 9 months old, done some very hard, hot, days but puleeeeeze.


Any hoo, buying the Solo, oil mix came up in the conversation. I ran the Mcseized at the specified ratio, 40:1, but apparently this only applies to specific full synthetic oils otherwise it's 25:1. Whats up with that? Book says 40:1, the little gubbins on the chain saw says 40:1, how is a simple man to know?

Ok... My sympathies George, its no fun buying a chainsaw only to have it die an early death. I'd be very cross.

Your experience is a good illustration of when knowledge is unevenly distributed. And perhaps also an illustration of why buying small engines from specialists is the wiser choice.

I grew up learning that two stroke mix was 25:1. And that is a good rule of thumb when you are uncertain.

When I bought my first Stihl 18 years ago, the Stihl guys explained 50:1 for the synthetic oil which surprised me but it works. I've used Stihl oil ever since and share four Stihl saws in my family. They are priced slightly above Husqvarana and maybe not much different but my experience is Stihl every time.

Outboard motor two stroke oil is not the same - it has a different ash content and outboards rely on water for cooling. Don't use it in a chainsaw.

The synthetic oil for saws looks expensive but it goes a long way. Bought 4 litres four years ago and it isn't empty yet.

ellipsis
23rd December 2013, 09:31
...although being told to buy a Stihl or Husky instead of cheaper makes, is probably not what an irregular user of a chainsaw wants to hear, and there are certainly makes of 'lesser' saws that seem to plod on for yonks, it is a sensible way of looking at it...the expense of using high quality synthetics like Stihl oil works out a hell of a lot less in the long run...my 026 Stihl has been hammered for twenty years... country boy stuff... big trees, all our firewood, pruning, clearing...other peoples trees, pruning, clearing and gets the hedge trimming bar on every year to fight with the massive hedge we have, I have yet to change the plug in all those years, and recently an O ring or seal in the petrol tank has let go and it leaks a little fuel when full...I'm still in love with it...on one occasion when I lost my Stihl oil from the back of the truck I was forced to use a mates non synthetic stuff for a day...25:1...a bit fumier but no problems...like someone mentioned, too much in the mix will result in leaning out...I know of some riders who would throw a bit of Castrol R in their tank, despite enough oil being delivered through the oil pump...just to give it that, 'smell'...often they were very surprised to find out that they elevated the risk of holing a piston or seizing by doing this...

SMOKEU
23rd December 2013, 10:04
150c twin, twin tuned exhausts

That's a mean plane. Post up a video of some aeros.

Winston001
16th January 2014, 23:55
...although being told to buy a Stihl or Husky instead of cheaper makes, is probably not what an irregular user of a chainsaw wants to hear..

..the expense of using high quality synthetics like Stihl oil works out a hell of a lot less in the long run...my 026 Stihl has been hammered for twenty years... country boy stuff... big trees, all our firewood, pruning, clearing...other peoples trees....

....I have yet to change the plug in all those years, and recently an O ring or seal in the petrol tank has let go and it leaks a little fuel when full...I'm still in love with it...

Oh yeah. :2thumbsup

I enjoy chainsaws. Maybe its my farming background.

If a man had a choice, he'd have three saws. One small one 30cc 14 inch bar to prune shrubs creepers, garden stuff and for climbing into high limbs on trees. Light and very handy. Such as a Stihl MS181 or 211.

A medium size 40cc for the larger stuff. Stihl MS 261 or 291.

And a serious saw for the difficult and large work. Stihl MS 440 or 460.

Of course life isn't that simple and most of us buy one saw for all jobs. So my advice is (just like motorcycles) bigger is better.

I say this because I'd been thinking about small saws because my main saw is a beast. Stihl 066. Its bloody heavy and tried to take my leg off one day. But so what! There is no substitute for power and this saw pushed through 800mm of dry willow (nasty stuff) in under a minute per cut.

You will never regret buying quality equipment and bigger is actually better.

gammaguy
17th January 2014, 02:49
I twig you wood be unhappy

i suggest you ring them on the phone and bark some orders

as for the branch manager,he should get the chop

unstuck
17th January 2014, 05:29
Im putting my money on the boot between the carb and engine not being tightened properly. :Punk:

Akzle
17th January 2014, 07:15
Oh yeah. :2thumbsup

I enjoy chainsaws. Maybe its my farming background.

If a man had a choice, he'd have three saws. One small one 30cc 14 inch bar to prune shrubs creepers, garden stuff and for climbing into high limbs on trees. Light and very handy. Such as a Stihl MS181 or 211.

A medium size 40cc for the larger stuff. Stihl MS 261 or 291.

And a serious saw for the difficult and large work. Stihl MS 440 or 460.

Of course life isn't that simple and most of us buy one saw for all jobs. So my advice is (just like motorcycles) bigger is better.

I say this because I'd been thinking about small saws because my main saw is a beast. Stihl 066. Its bloody heavy and tried to take my leg off one day. But so what! There is no substitute for power and this saw pushed through 800mm of dry willow (nasty stuff) in under a minute per cut.

You will never regret buying quality equipment and bigger is actually better.

yeah. Nah. See ive got a 180 /1? and used pretty much everything on your list. Even when i had the 2xx and 066, the 180 got most of the work.
Being said, id take the 2xx if i was buying an all porpoise.

The 18x is easy to haul and doesnt take up much space on a quad, and between a chainsaw and a quad, there arent much places i cant get.
Ive put down 40ft wattles with it.
Keep your chain sharp and cut properly and a little saw is competent for most jobs.

Banditbandit
17th January 2014, 08:31
Your biggest mistake was not buying a decient make like Stihl.

Yeah, I've run a Stihl for years - on Stihl oil at 50:1 .. just runs .... regular service new plugs .. keep the air filter clear and the chain sharp ...

Cuts me firewood every year ..

jasonu
17th January 2014, 14:22
Here is my pruning saw. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9x8rBKC4BE

george formby
17th January 2014, 16:24
Got to say, the Solo is a different beast to the McCulloch. Even though it's bigger & heavier it's easier to use, seems to rev lower but is more torquey. I'm already cutting bigger stuff & it just munches through, no struggling. Still on Castrol at 25:1, can't find any full synth round here. The Castrol is bright blue so maybe full synth any way. Saw does not smoke but is hesitant to lift the revs from idle, got to tap the trigger before a full squeeze of throttle.

When I was at the Husky dealers he showed me an American assembled saw and a Chinese one, both genuine, both identical on the outside. The Chinese one was the same as my old, seized saw, crap chain brake, crap plastic, generally crap & cheap. So, buyer beware, Husqvarna do proper saws & disposable ones.

Did a bit of research on the Solo & found no horror stories, just the opposite. Cheaper than Stihl or Husqvarna but just as good.

Any hoo. Oil?

Anyone get their oil online? I want to buy Motul full synth 2t for the DT & the preferred oil for the saw but can nae find it aroon aboot. Prices at the Stihl & Husky shop are eye bleeding! The Motul I just can't find.

FJRider
17th January 2014, 16:58
Even the big "Name" brands have three different class of chainsaws (throughout the entire size range) ... Home (light use) / Farm (Moderate use) / Professional (hard use).

Buying by brand names alone will not always cut the mustard ... you get what you pay for. See the agents for ANY particular saw you buy and ask what recommended oils/ratio's are best for THAT saw. even state you intended use amount to confirm its suitability for you. As already stated ... the warranty may be void if you didn't follow the manufacturers guidelines.

ellipsis
17th January 2014, 17:03
...no matter what brand they are, they will still make your life a pain...

george formby
17th January 2014, 17:35
I still think the dead saw basically cooked itself. Worked it for between 7 & 9 hours for 3 days. Summit like 30 ltrs of fuel. Poor wee thing.

Got about 6 m2 of fire wood to do soon & a big ass Black Wattle to fell & dismember. Gonna need help with the felling, it's 4ft across at least. Bit much for a scaredy cat like me.

unstuck
17th January 2014, 17:41
If it is hesitating from idle, then your low jet screw needs a tweek.
Keep it sharp and clean, you'll be right.:niceone:

ellipsis
17th January 2014, 17:49
...big cuts are planned and engineered...not attacked...slowly, slowly,catchee monkey...

george formby
17th January 2014, 17:56
If it is hesitating from idle, then your low jet screw needs a tweek.
Keep it sharp and clean, you'll be right.:niceone:

What!!!!!!!? My low jet screw needs tweeking! K'inell. It's fresh out the packet. :blink: I'm guessing thats what the little screwdriver in the tool kit is for.
That's the rest of my evening sorted, finding that fucker, start work at 7am so I will have a go tuning at 5:30.

I give the chain a wee touch of the file at every fuel fill, same as a good knife, a little, often. I don't like to see sawdust, I'm a shavings man.

Cleaning? Give it a good, soft brushing to get the crap off it? That's my current modus operandi, never felt the need for a water blaster & wax.

ellipsis
17th January 2014, 18:01
...i have a very small cheapy that needs the H-L balance sorted constantly...no probs...just tweak til running at full shit...

T.W.R
17th January 2014, 18:01
Even the big "Name" brands have three different class of chainsaws (throughout the entire size range) ... Home (light use) / Farm (Moderate use) / Professional (hard use).

Buying by brand names alone will not always cut the mustard ... you get what you pay for. See the agents for ANY particular saw you buy and ask what recommended oils/ratio's are best for THAT saw. even state you intended use amount to confirm its suitability for you. As already stated ... the warranty may be void if you didn't follow the manufacturers guidelines.

Most under 45cc/ 16" bar or less are considered at end use: consumer/home or casual
And some supermarket specials for the likes of Mitre10 & Bunnings only really have a design life of around 100hrs some wont even confess an design life.
Even smaller model saws of the big name brands aren't even built by the parent company.

Light Professional/Semi Pro/Farmer sized saws are the best balance for durability

unstuck
17th January 2014, 18:04
Air compressor is a chainsaws best friend. Give the groove in the bar a good clean and inside the sprocket cover and airfilter. Yup, thats what that little screwdriver be for, usually the mixture screws will be on the side of the saw in a little hole and usually have a L or a H or a T marked next to them, T being the idle screw.:Punk:

Akzle
17th January 2014, 18:06
Gonna need help with the felling, it's 4ft across at least. Bit much for a scaredy cat like me.

fuken lemme addit! Lemme addit!

Ill pack me big husky and fuck the cunt up for science

unstuck
17th January 2014, 18:06
This one is a sthil and has LA instead of a T.http://scottiestech.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/chainsaw_adjust_motor.jpg

T.W.R
17th January 2014, 18:08
usually the mixture screws will be on the side of the saw in a little hole and usually have a L or a H or a T marked next to them, T being the idle screw.:Punk:

And don't fuck with them unless it's absolutely necessary, they don't adjust themselves. And don't fiddle when the saw is cold wait until it's at operating temp before adjusting anything

george formby
17th January 2014, 18:21
Just had a squizz at me hand book and indeed I need to give my little L a twiddle when warm. I exaggerated on the Wattle, 3 foot is more like it, at the top of a bank, decent lean & hoooooge limbs. Bloody good fire wood when it comes down! Got some big, old, gnarly pines, too. Akzle.....?

Sometimes with this old place I feel i have the energy of old age & the wisdom of youth.

Akzle
17th January 2014, 18:23
This one is a sthil and has LA instead of a T.[IMG]

i believes thats low (idle) and air...
Have a tutu and see what happens.

ellipsis
17th January 2014, 18:24
Just had a squizz at me hand book and indeed I need to give my little L a twiddle when warm. I exaggerated on the Wattle, 3 foot is more like it, at the top of a bank, decent lean & hoooooge limbs. Bloody good fire wood when it comes down! Got some big, old, gnarly pines, too. Akzle.....?

Sometimes with this old place I feel i have the energy of old age & the wisdom of youth.

...just do it...30,60, 90 minutes a day on any job gets it sorted...beers included...

unstuck
17th January 2014, 18:25
i believes thats low (idle) and air...
Have a tutu and see what happens.

H and L at the top, La(idle) down below.:Punk:

george formby
17th January 2014, 18:26
And don't fuck with them unless it's absolutely necessary, they don't adjust themselves. And don't fiddle when the saw is cold wait until it's at operating temp before adjusting anything

The saw does not stall, just hesitant on that first touch of throttle after idling. It tinkles, too. After beasting something, when you realease the trigger it tinkles. Sounds like an old DOT 2t trials bike coming off the gas.

According to me handbook the adjustment screws are set for the atmospheric pressure of Bremen, Germany.

T.W.R
17th January 2014, 18:51
The saw does not stall, just hesitant on that first touch of throttle after idling. It tinkles, too. After beasting something, when you realease the trigger it tinkles. Sounds like an old DOT 2t trials bike coming off the gas.

According to me handbook the adjustment screws are set for the atmospheric pressure of Bremen, Germany.

Still do the adjustments when it's hot otherwise you'll be achieving sweet f/a..... and in small increments 1/16 tweaks or you'll be chasing your arse on a hit & miss mission

Akzle
17th January 2014, 18:56
Just had a squizz at me hand book and indeed I need to give my little L a twiddle when warm. I exaggerated on the Wattle, 3 foot is more like it, at the top of a bank, decent lean & hoooooge limbs. Bloody good fire wood when it comes down! Got some big, old, gnarly pines, too. Akzle.....?

Sometimes with this old place I feel i have the energy of old age & the wisdom of youth.

3ft?
Aww. Ill bring the 180 then.
Yeah fuken bring it on.

unstuck
17th January 2014, 19:00
3ft?
Aww. Ill bring the 180 then.
Yeah fuken bring it on.

Nah, I will walk the Td9 up and push the fucker over, be there this time next year if I leave on sunday(trail ride tomorrow) morning.:headbang::headbang:

ellipsis
17th January 2014, 19:02
...i'll just look at it and it'll be kindling...

cs363
17th January 2014, 20:16
Any hoo. Oil?

Anyone get their oil online? I want to buy Motul full synth 2t for the DT & the preferred oil for the saw but can nae find it aroon aboot. Prices at the Stihl & Husky shop are eye bleeding! The Motul I just can't find.

4 litre: http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/mo800fl2t4.aspx
1 litre: http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/mo800fl2t1.aspx <<( looks like a bit of a typo in the description on that one, but it's 8002T http://www.motul.com/nz/en/products/oils-lubricants/800-2t-factory-line-road-racing?f%5Bengine_type%5D=22&f%5Brange%5D=21)

:scooter:

george formby
17th January 2014, 20:22
4 litre: http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/mo800fl2t4.aspx
1 litre: http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/mo800fl2t1.aspx <<( looks like a bit of a typo in the description on that one, but it's 8002T http://www.motul.com/nz/en/products/oils-lubricants/800-2t-factory-line-road-racing?f%5Bengine_type%5D=22&f%5Brange%5D=21)

:scooter:

That is gold. Thank you.

jasonu
18th January 2014, 15:05
When I was at the Husky dealers he showed me an American assembled saw and a Chinese one, both genuine, both identical on the outside. The Chinese one was the same as my old, seized saw, crap chain brake, crap plastic, generally crap & cheap. So, buyer beware, Husqvarna do proper saws & disposable ones.
.

Huskys made in China, never heard that one before. I googled it and found some 2 series huskys were made in Brazil to make up supply otherwise Sweden is the place of manufacture. Not saying anyone is lying but just saying... I've had 3 and 4 series huskys and all made in Sweden.
Solo brandwise is as good as Husky, stihl etc.

jasonu
18th January 2014, 15:07
That is gold. Thank you.

They sell husky and stihl oil in six pack bottles, each one is measured to mix with a gallon (3.7l) of gas (petrol for you unzudder types). That is how I have always bought my smoke oil and never had a problem.

george formby
18th January 2014, 20:05
Huskys made in China, never heard that one before. I googled it and found some 2 series huskys were made in Brazil to make up supply otherwise Sweden is the place of manufacture. Not saying anyone is lying but just saying... I've had 3 and 4 series huskys and all made in Sweden.
Solo brandwise is as good as Husky, stihl etc.

The saws I was shown at the dealers had Made in China or Made in America on them & in there hand books. The dealer pointed it out to me.
I'm not biased. The thought of American production lines no longer makes me think quality first. Now I initially think profit. Same as China.

It's all live & learn really. I always assumed Sweden too. Guess they moved closer to market,

unstuck
18th January 2014, 20:43
I thought the American Husqvarnas had rancher stamped into the handle, the chinese ones had a single thin fall line in the body, and the swedish ones the thick fall lines in the body.:wacko:

Winston001
18th January 2014, 23:12
There are clones of Husqvara saws coming out of China but with their own brand name. I don't believe they are manufactured under licence - they simply look very similar which is entirely deliberate.

We shouldn't knock China too quickly - their factories are capable of building good quality equipment which is why Apple and others have established plants there.

Personally I accept a Chinese saw (plenty on TM) will do the job so long as you don't plan to pick it up season after season. For the casual home user who doesn't expect much, they can be very good.

Here is a link and comment 5 is by a Kiwi who has used Stihls:

http://forestry.about.com/b/2008/08/20/discussion-chinese-chainsaws-are-rubbish.htm

Comment:

"So for the home user I feel these are fine, obviously there are some bad eggs, but for the money we pay in NZ for these Chinese saws they are damn good value. Any professional user would not buy Chinese anyway in my mind, I always ran Stihl during my logging years, but wasn’t prepared to pay $NZ 1150 for the equivalent saw to the Chinese one.

My only advice for the Chinese saws is to replace the original spark plug with a Champion or similar, and be prepared to adjust carburettor a couple od times during break in. They do require a 25:1 ratio fuel, but the good quality oils such as Castrol etc have barely a puff of smoke at that ratio nowadays. Just my opinion, but I feel for the price we pay (here in NZ anyway) they are good value."


Here is an example on TM - http://www.trademe.co.nz/business-farming-industry/farming-forestry/forestry/chainsaws-parts/auction-685111784.htm

jasonu
19th January 2014, 04:57
I thought the American Husqvarnas had rancher stamped into the handle, the chinese ones had a single thin fall line in the body, and the swedish ones the thick fall lines in the body.:wacko:


http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m541/nagasadow13/w077.jpg
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/chainsaw_test_02_0810-xl-48469414.jpg
This is what I have and it has never missed a beat.
http://www.macarthurmowersandmarine.com.au/Husqvarna%20460%20Rancher%20Semi%20Professional%20 Chainsaw/slides/CIMG5108.JPG

Akzle
19th January 2014, 05:56
We shouldn't knock China too quickly - their factories are capable of building good quality equipment which is why Apple and others have established plants there.


we absolutely should. no-one should buy anything from china. we don't need to be propping up their economoney, there's enough nomoney here in nz to worry about.

second to that, their qc is, on the whole shit.

tertiarily, their chainsaws are heavier than comparable models, unbalanced which leads to fatigue and white finger a lot quicker, much quicker to wear out and generally or otherwise are poos to use.

so no. fuck china.

unstuck
19th January 2014, 07:36
This is what I have and it has never missed a beat.


I have one of those 460's too, but without the rancher bit. My 365 special does most of my work now though, And that is a real good saw. I used to be all Sthil, but the parts and the like are just too damn expensive.

unstuck
19th January 2014, 11:09
Just stumbled onto this...http://thecounterfeitreport.com/product/360/365-Chainsaws.html

Bit hard to tell one from the other when looking at them.

jasonu
19th January 2014, 13:50
we absolutely should. no-one should buy anything from china. we don't need to be propping up their economoney, there's enough nomoney here in nz to worry about.

second to that, their qc is, on the whole shit.

tertiarily, their chainsaws are heavier than comparable models, unbalanced which leads to fatigue and white finger a lot quicker, much quicker to wear out and generally or otherwise are poos to use.

so no. fuck china.

Several fair statements right there.:2thumbsup

jasonu
19th January 2014, 13:52
I have one of those 460's too, but without the rancher bit. My 365 special does most of my work now though, And that is a real good saw. I used to be all Sthil, but the parts and the like are just too damn expensive.

The 365 is a much better saw than the 460. Lighter and more power. The 460 is the biggest of the farm/ranch saws and the 365 is the beginning of the pro grade line.

p.dath
20th January 2014, 07:12
Go to your bank or get online banking. Your cc records absolutely go back more than 6 months. Failing that give gcsb a call they will have a record.

Failing that send an anonymous email asking for help and I'm sure the NSA will respond with the answer.

jasonu
20th January 2014, 14:07
This just popped up on Craigslist.
http://bend.craigslist.org/tls/4295405573.html
If it is as stated it is a good buy.

unstuck
20th January 2014, 14:13
This just popped up on Craigslist.
http://bend.craigslist.org/tls/4295405573.html
If it is as stated it is a good buy.

Yeah, that would be a good buy, as long as the compression is still good.:niceone:

Akzle
20th January 2014, 15:07
Failing that send an anonymous email asking for help and I'm sure the NSA will respond with the answer.

wow. you are late to that fuken party.

Winston001
27th January 2014, 23:25
Gotta share cos nobody at home gets it. :no:

A few days ago had a common-sense malfunction and bid on TM for a non-running Stihl chainsaw. Not even the model number was known although it looked to be a small size.

To my horror I won. $81 - Ok it won't break the bank but I was feeling a bit silly. Tinkering is fun but really I'm no mechanic.

Picked it up this morning and my heart sank. :facepalm: The previous owner was a cruel sod who abused a piece of quality machinery, scratches all over, broken taped-up handle and another crack, chain brake no good, dirty etc. Shag. Plus of course the bastard wouldn't fire.

The saw turned out to be a Stihl MS 211 C which is at the high end of the light pruning/firewood range. By coincidence I'd looked at the latest model just before Christmas but at $685 put that decision off.

Anyway, so there I am cursing quietly in the garage in between running teenagers around and wondering if I should just sell the bloody thing to another optimist. The good news was good compression and it produced a spark but more of a whimper than a bright blue flash. Tried meths in the carb which has always worked in the past but nadda.

Farg.

So I decided to at least make the thing presentable dismantling bits and blew into holes, as you do. Removed the pull-starter and found the rotor surrounded by oil and dirt. To be honest at this point I only had a vague idea of what to do but cleaned out as much as possible, discovered an electrical connection, cleaned around the coil/ignition unit, and as an after-thought, rubbed a bit of sandpaper over the rotor magnets and the points.

Was about to go to bed and thought of giving it one last try which meant reassembly but ok. Poured in a bit of meths. Pulled. Nothin. No wait -


YES


You beauty the sucker fired right up and didn't want to stop. Damn that felt good.

And that's tonights bedtime story. We now know the MS 211 runs on meths. Tomorrow we will introduce proper fuel but thats for another day. :D

unstuck
28th January 2014, 04:15
Think I may still have some parts for one of those in the Shagged pile. Black handled jobby, or the white handle??? Will have a looksee.:niceone:

p.dath
28th January 2014, 06:53
Gotta share cos nobody at home gets it. :no:

Well done! That is a real feel good moment.

unstuck
28th January 2014, 20:26
This was todays weaponry, Had some 80+ yr old pines to clean up. Fire wood for years.:headbang::headbang:

Husky 365sp, 2x Sthil 066 magnums. 9hrs only stopping for fuel and sharpens, my fore arms feel fucked. Chainsaws-1 , 80 yr old pines - nil.:2thumbsup

Winston001
28th January 2014, 20:34
Think I may still have some parts for one of those in the Shagged pile. Black handled jobby, or the white handle??? Will have a looksee.:niceone:

Cheers, very thoughtful. :D It has the black and orange handle.

The crack had been wrapped with a very strong tape which made a solid fix but of course I only realised that once it was removed. I'll try to make an aluminium strap to fit and paint it black.

Here is the saw - pretty rough - but looking better by now.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=685502011

Winston001
28th January 2014, 20:37
Well done! That is a real feel good moment.

Thanks man. Sometimes I think motorcyclists are the only people who understand the satisfaction of finding a problem and solving it by yourself.

Winston001
28th January 2014, 20:45
This was todays weaponry, Had some 80+ yr old pines to clean up. Fire wood for years.:headbang::headbang:

Husky 365sp, 2x Sthil 066 magnums. 9hrs only stopping for fuel and sharpens, my fore arms feel fucked. Chainsaws-1 , 80 yr old pines - nil.:2thumbsup

Ho yuss!! Excellent machines. And old man pine is good wood. Respect, that is a hard days yakka.

I love the 066 although they are a beast to use. What size bar? - and is that a 36inch bar on the ground?

ellipsis
28th January 2014, 21:02
...it's fucking good to have a win on an older motor with no history...glad it's you and not me...I should have been down the shed tonight tickling up the little gear and taking the hedge trimmer off the 026 and sussing her for a few big days of clearing shit...buuut, my missus said we should get out on the sportys by 4pm and I obliged her whim...manana...

unstuck
29th January 2014, 06:48
Here is the saw - pretty rough - but looking better by now.



Bloody hell, someone hated that saw in a previous life.:eek5:

jasonu
29th January 2014, 15:36
Another good deal.
http://bend.craigslist.org/tls/4309132476.html
Wish there was a cheap way of getting them to NZ.

unstuck
29th January 2014, 16:03
Wish there was a cheap way of getting them to NZ.

Me too, with deals like that.:Punk::Punk:

unstuck
29th January 2014, 16:16
. What size bar? - and is that a 36inch bar on the ground?

34,s on the saws, and a 40 lying on the ground. Had a look for that 211 but no joy, the one I was thinking was there is an 023, very similar but different enough to be of little use to you Im afraid. :oi-grr:

ellipsis
29th January 2014, 17:49
...I have a cool thing in the shed that is heavy, barks like a tz and cuts like it was meant to...a Partner...Swedish and............http://www.partner.biz/int/discover-partner/history/.......

Winston001
29th January 2014, 20:57
34,s on the saws, and a 40 lying on the ground. Had a look for that 211 but no joy, the one I was thinking was there is an 023, very similar but different enough to be of little use to you Im afraid. :oi-grr:

No worries and thanks for looking. I've just fixed the handle tonight with an aluminium strap which is largely hidden. A touch of black paint and it will look right.

Those are big bars, never used anything that long.

Winston001
30th January 2014, 00:17
...I have a cool thing in the shed that is heavy, barks like a tz and cuts like it was meant to...a Partner...Swedish and............http://www.partner.biz/int/discover-partner/history/.......

Never heard of Partner - very cool.

:D

unstuck
30th January 2014, 05:53
Partners are cool, a bit like the echo's of old. The New echo's are pretty crap though in my opinion.

I used one of these old pioneer 620s for years, you could put just about any length bar on, and they still had power to spare. The power head weighs about 3 times a 066 though, which made for some long, hard days.:2thumbsup

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RXhuxE9QYhE/S6FeXy06hGI/AAAAAAAABaY/TcnBsCPBt6A/s640/Picture%20053.jpg

awa355
30th January 2014, 19:13
I own a Solo, but not this model. I wouldn't like to lug it up some of the hills around here with pine trees growing on them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83IQu0Pnevc

ellipsis
30th January 2014, 19:37
...I like races...


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Winston001
31st January 2014, 03:29
Bloody hell, someone hated that saw in a previous life.:eek5:

Yeah the aiseole whoever he is. However he seems to have done the right thing with fuel and oil which is a relief. Good compression, piston looks fine, and the muffler is clean.

Here are a few pics for comparrison with what I picked up:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=685502011



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unstuck
31st January 2014, 06:30
Good job on the handle. Should keep you in firewood for awhile.:2thumbsup

Winston001
11th February 2014, 12:32
...I have a cool thing in the shed that is heavy, barks like a tz and cuts like it was meant to...a Partner...Swedish and............http://www.partner.biz/int/discover-partner/history/.......

There is a whole discussion thread about the Partner in the chainsaw forum on Arboristsite.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/partner-chainsaw-thread.170206/

ellipsis
11th February 2014, 13:16
There is a whole discussion thread about the Partner in the chainsaw forum on Arboristsite.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/partner-chainsaw-thread.170206/

...i'm wishing i had just shut up about the thing...I pulled it out last week, my bar on the 026 is fucked and i thought i would put off the inevitable 117 dollar compulsory purchase of one until i had that kind of spare coin floating...new plug and a couple of hours cleaning up the Partner and she roared into life, did twenty minutes work and died...cooled off, started again first pull, died a minute later...cooled off, started again, first pull, died a minute later...I am hoping it is the tank breather but I have that dread feeling it could be the coil...another part of the world of unobtanium I would say...I will check out your link, you never know...cheers...

george formby
11th February 2014, 13:49
...I like races...



Hmmmm, my solo tinkles like that husky 272 when it's idling. Sounds like an old Euro trials bike.

I cut about 3 mtr of dry plum & manuka, similar size & bigger t'other day. The wee solo, 639 I think, just fell through it. I use one of those smart holders, too. The blue stand in the vid. Brilliant bit of kit for a n00b like me. Very happy with the new saw as well.

Back onto oil. Solo recommends Castrol Super TT if I want to run at 40:1. My mate has just been advised to use Castrol TT in his KX 125. Same oil? If so does that mean full synth 2t bike oil is the go?

ellipsis
3rd March 2014, 20:01
...check this Oz racer...


http://www.wimp.com/australianchainsaw/

unstuck
4th March 2014, 05:09
...check this Oz racer...




You just stole that off my facebook page, didn't you. :devil2:

Im cutting between 15 and 20 mtrs of firewood a day at the moment, at least when we are not having hurricane type winds and hail like golfballs.:niceone:

ellipsis
4th March 2014, 12:30
...I just watched a macro, two foot thick, snap and turn to matchwood before it hit the ground. Too close for comfort for me. I'm hoping it's mate which is a lot closer to the house stays up. I'm fairly freaked at the moment. Our roof is straining to leave and the wind has not dropped below 140-150 k all night and today . I didnt think any linesmen would be able to work in this shit, but the power just came back...for now. They are fucking hard men.

There is gonna be a lot of firewood real close to home.

Akzle
4th March 2014, 18:18
shutthefuckup you two. Youll push insurance up. Again.

unstuck
4th March 2014, 18:33
Awesome being out in the bush in that shit, get a sore neck from looking above you all day.:yawn: Only another 3 or 4 hundred meters, then Im having a break from firewood, and onto cutting tracks.:woohoo::woohoo:

unstuck
6th March 2014, 06:00
Been cutting this pile for 3 days now, and hardly made a dent in it. Great views at lunchtime though.:Punk::Punk:

george formby
6th March 2014, 08:50
My ickle Solo is getting a good work out too.

294535

Anybody use Jay Max oil? Spotted it in the engineers yesterday & the bloke who cut my tree down uses it in his 1980s Husky light sabre. T'is cheap & apparently good.

unstuck
6th March 2014, 16:40
That lot should take about an hour to clean up George. Never heard of jay max oil. We used to get a lot of Fuchs oil down this way, which was good stuff and affordable, but cant seem to get it here now. All my 2 stroke oil is Mobile at the moment, as they are giving me not bad deals on 18 liter chainbar oils. Dumb how you cannot buy 20 liter drums anymore. Stupid OSH, stupid humans.:shifty:

Winston001
6th March 2014, 17:08
North Canterbury Equipment are selling 20 litres of bar oil on TM for $95 plus $20 freight. And a Christchurch outfit is selling 20 litres of Morris chain oil for $120 delivered.

Any thoughts?



(Ummm...I use old black oil :facepalm:)

george formby
6th March 2014, 17:37
North Canterbury Equipment are selling 20 litres of bar oil on TM for $95 plus $20 freight. And a Christchurch outfit is selling 20 litres of Morris chain oil for $120 delivered.

Any thoughts?



(Ummm...I use old black oil :facepalm:)

I'm using a cheap Merckan chain bar oil at the mo, $25 / 4 ltr. Used most of it today, nearly 4 ltr of gas, too. That is obviously cheaper!
The tree I'm cutting up is a dead, dry, Black Wattle. I thought dry Manuka was hard until I discovered dry plum. Now I've discovered dry Wattle.The bar is getting hot enough to make the chain smoke. The wood is like iron. I took the chain in for a professional sharpen because I'm a numpty n00b & it was making more saw dust than shavings. $18 later & no change, the wood looks polished when it's cut. Cut some Plum for a comparison & got lovely big, curly chips...
My bad, the oil is labelled JAK MAX, Aussie company, Link Here (http://www.jakmax.com.au/index.php) the oil is made by ALCO in the US, semi synthetic & recommended to run at 50:1. $17.95 + GST for 1 ltr, $49.95 + GST for 4 ltr. Semi synth. Found out it smokes more than generic Castrol at 25:!. Saw seems happy, though. Revvin like a good'un.
6 mtrs down, 6 to go.
Oh, the trunk with my piddly saw on it is our newest Trials bike section.....:eek: Just need the trials bike.

unstuck
6th March 2014, 17:50
North Canterbury Equipment are selling 20 litres of bar oil on TM for $95 plus $20 freight. And a Christchurch outfit is selling 20 litres of Morris chain oil for $120 delivered.

Any thoughts?



(Ummm...I use old black oil :facepalm:)

AllRig, next to transport repairs in Gore do me a 18ltr for $87.63, but I use one every 4 days. Do not use waste oil, fucks everything from oil lines to guide rails and sprockets.:spanking:

unstuck
6th March 2014, 17:54
North Canterbury Equipment are selling 20 litres of bar oil on TM for $95 plus $20 freight. And a Christchurch outfit is selling 20 litres of Morris chain oil for $120 delivered.

Any thoughts?



(Ummm...I use old black oil :facepalm:)


I'm using a cheap Merckan chain bar oil at the mo, $25 / 4 ltr. Used most of it today, nearly 4 ltr of gas, too. That is obviously cheaper!
The tree I'm cutting up is a dead, dry, Black Wattle. I thought dry Manuka was hard until I discovered dry plum. Now I've discovered dry Wattle.The bar is getting hot enough to make the chain smoke. The wood is like iron. I took the chain in for a professional sharpen because I'm a numpty n00b & it was making more saw dust than shavings. $18 later & no change, the wood looks polished when it's cut. Cut some Plum for a comparison & got lovely big, curly chips...
My bad, the oil is labelled JAK MAX, Aussie company, Link Here (http://www.jakmax.com.au/index.php) the oil is made by ALCO in the US, semi synthetic & recommended to run at 50:1. $17.95 + GST for 1 ltr, $49.95 + GST for 4 ltr. Semi synth. Found out it smokes more than generic Castrol at 25:!. Saw seems happy, though. Revvin like a good'un.
6 mtrs down, 6 to go.
Oh, the trunk with my piddly saw on it is our newest Trials bike section.....:eek: Just need the trials bike.

Get yourself a chisel chain for that shit, your saw will thank you for it later. All that reving and dust making is just fucking everything. Fine dust will fill your guide rails, oil holes and air filter a lot more than chips. As long as the oil is sticking to the bar and chain, and not getting flung off like car engine oil would, then brands not important.:Punk::Punk:

george formby
6th March 2014, 18:24
Get yourself a chisel chain for that shit, your saw will thank you for it later. All that reving and dust making is just fucking everything. Fine dust will fill your guide rails, oil holes and air filter a lot more than chips. As long as the oil is sticking to the bar and chain, and not getting flung off like car engine oil would, then brands not important.:Punk::Punk:

Them sounds like wise words. The poor wee chainsaw is just a big ball of dust & I'm barely half way through. I just started the big stuff on my last fill before beer o clock. Takes forever to cut a 6ft 50cm log into sections. The bigger stuff is still there. When do you flip the bar over?

Oh. I felt inadequate enough yesterday when Tony, the feller, whipped out the biggest tool I have ever seen, 65cc & about 5ft from tip to tail apparently, 232 teeth. Having seen your Alpine mound it just gets worserer. I will be worthy one day!

Akzle
6th March 2014, 18:48
Them sounds like wise words. The poor wee chainsaw is just a big ball of dust & I'm barely half way through. I just started the big stuff on my last fill before beer o clock. Takes forever to cut a 6ft 50cm log into sections. The bigger stuff is still there. When do you flip the bar over?

Oh. I felt inadequate enough yesterday when Tony, the feller, whipped out the biggest tool I have ever seen, 65cc & about 5ft from tip to tail apparently, 232 teeth. Having seen your Alpine mound it just gets worserer. I will be worthy one day!

you poof. I said id come do it, and bring hardware and all.

Either way, youre doing it wrong.

unstuck
6th March 2014, 19:04
I flip the bar every 5 tanks. Dust is a sure sign that somethings not right. If you are too scottish to buy a chisel chain, file your saw teeth to 30 degrees and lower the rakes by another mm.:niceone:

george formby
6th March 2014, 19:09
you poof. I said id come do it, and bring hardware and all.

Either way, youre doing it wrong.

Yeah but. Poofta I can handle, I'm a black belt with a whisk.. The manly arts of knocking the shit out of stuff is new to me.
I owed a bloke some thanks for a lot of freely given help so he was the first call for the job so I could actually give the good bugger some money. No offense to your generosity but what goes around should come around.
I has some huuuuuuge pines at funny angles if that floats your boat.
Right or wrong I'm over the moon I'm doing it! 2 years ago I was the bloke on the telly who can't open his beer with a hammer. Did my first beer tonight with the solo. Fuck yeah! Mankini & chainsaw chaps. I've arrived..

unstuck
6th March 2014, 19:12
For George. :msn-wink:

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Akzle
6th March 2014, 19:20
I flip the bar every 5 tanks. Dust is a sure sign that somethings not right. If you are too scottish to buy a chisel chain, file your saw teeth to 30 degrees and lower the rakes by another mm.:niceone:
stihl run 30 on most of their chains. Going down a mil on the depth can *apparently* fuck your shit. I was told off by ze germans because i used to file them flat on new chains.
flip the bar every time you take it off, depending how an where you work will depend when it goes downside up.


Right or wrong I'm over the moon I'm doing it! 2 years ago I was the bloke on the telly who can't open his beer with a hammer. Did my first beer tonight with the solo. Fuck yeah! Mankini & chainsaw chaps. I've arrived..

thats all good. But, that it doesn't sound like either of you are that good at it. :shit: E props though. For getting manly.

george formby
6th March 2014, 19:55
:laugh:Busted, you've heard me whistling. Funnily enough my Dear Mama is over from blighty at the mo, sizzling.
Yup Akzle, your right. I'm not good at it but getting betterer. My chain is filed at 30o & me little lumps at the front are in check, bought a wee gauge today to confirm it. Will look at a chisel chain because the poor wee tool I have now is slogging it's guts out and I have barely touched the boughs.

I've been a chef since I was 13, well, started then. I'm staring down the barrel of fiddy now. The only power tool I had up until 2 years ago was a cordless drill which I found. But.
I learned something a few years ago. If you can do it so can I. Eventually. By some bizarre quirk of fate I went from a Mission Bay kitchen to a Southern Ocean galley. From that I ended up on the deck of a long liner. Comfort zone? Not much. So I learned to lose the ego & ask the questions, then get me head down & learn. Then I could do the job. A bloody scary one if you lacked wits.
Dealing to this neglected acre & 140 year old cottage is the same, I have to ask the questions, take the knocks & fill in the gaps.

So. Chisel chain or bigger bar & chain for my wee 639? What colour lingerie should I wear under me chaps? Which oil has the best fragrance? Should I wrap some tinsel round me helmet?

unstuck
6th March 2014, 20:04
Put a couple of lawsoniana ellwoodii needles around your muffler, lovely aroma. Underdraws under your chaps optional.:blip: Dont go bigger, you will make more dust, Some of those fruit tree woods you may need a tungsten tip if it has been sitting dead for a long time. That or a gas axe.:msn-wink:

george formby
6th March 2014, 20:19
Put a couple of lawsoniana ellwoodii needles around your muffler, lovely aroma. Underdraws under your chaps optional.:blip: Dont go bigger, you will make more dust, Some of those fruit tree woods you may need a tungsten tip if it has been sitting dead for a long time. That or a gas axe.:msn-wink:

It was standing on it's last legs, bark on but stuff all enthusiasm. Feller who felled it reckoned if we waited another year then it would have been a machine job. The gert great beast of a thing he had skittered a few times before he got a bite. He had to adjust the chain 5 times in 3 hours. Had to do mine 4 times today. Bloody great ain't it!:woohoo:
Might have to get a mobile saw mill in for the trunk. Well, some of it. Tried splitting some of the sections today. Yeah, what ever. See that? That's an imprint of your splitter.
Need to have something hugely scarey to ride over for the next few years. Anyone got a cheap trials bike?

Yamahardman
6th March 2014, 22:00
my old man has had his stihl for probably over 14 years.
its a magnum, not sure of exact model, but that thing cut through alot of shit in its lifetime.
i think when he got it, it was second hand and had been in forestry work.
runs the stihl 50:1 mix, always has.

unstuck
7th March 2014, 04:18
my old man has had his stihl for probably over 14 years.
its a magnum, not sure of exact model, but that thing cut through alot of shit in its lifetime.
i think when he got it, it was second hand and had been in forestry work.
runs the stihl 50:1 mix, always has.

Thats what sthil recommend, but I still mix mine at 40:1. Bought an 023 and an 025 new in 89, and both still doing service as clearing saws on track work.

Akzle
7th March 2014, 06:35
*etcetera*

. Chisel chain or bigger bar & chain for my wee 639? What colour lingerie should I wear under me chaps? Which oil has the best fragrance? Should I wrap some tinsel round me helmet?

yea, as i say, e props.
Run at full noise and let the saw do its job. Poke the dogs in and ya should be able to do it with one hand. (dont though)
i never wear undies.
Has your saw had a pro tune? New plug and clean filter?

awa355
7th March 2014, 08:17
Might have to get a mobile saw mill in for the trunk. Well, some of it. Tried splitting some of the sections today.

Now, back in the ' good ole days '

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/a361286a-bf8d-4fc2-ad6c-aa5cb1a2b056.png?t=1394136789

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george formby
7th March 2014, 08:46
yea, as i say, e props.
Run at full noise and let the saw do its job. Poke the dogs in and ya should be able to do it with one hand. (dont though)
i never wear undies.
Has your saw had a pro tune? New plug and clean filter?

Not yet. It's new, well, was. Gonna show it some love today before I start again. Clean it, flip bar, check plug & clean air filter.
Tried splitting some of the rounds last night.. :pinch: I have lots of lawn stools....

unstuck
7th March 2014, 16:06
Not yet. It's new, well, was. Gonna show it some love today before I start again. Clean it, flip bar, check plug & clean air filter.
Tried splitting some of the rounds last night.. :pinch: I have lots of lawn stools....

Be careful the wood splitter does not hit you in the forehead, that fuckin hurts. Didn't think blue gum could be so springy.:pinch:
Any thing that the splitter wont handle, gets the chainsaw treatment down here, and the resulting piles of long curly wood shavings are used for bedding in the chook house.:Punk:

jasonu
7th March 2014, 16:51
runs the stihl 50:1 mix, always has.

Yep can't go wrong with that or Husky mix. Chainsaw oil made by (or under license for) chainsaw manufacturing companies specifically for chainsaws. Using anything else is stupid.

george formby
7th March 2014, 18:03
Be careful the wood splitter does not hit you in the forehead, that fuckin hurts. Didn't think blue gum could be so springy.:pinch:
Any thing that the splitter wont handle, gets the chainsaw treatment down here, and the resulting piles of long curly wood shavings are used for bedding in the chook house.:Punk:

Yup, that's me next plan, quarter the logs. Tried valiantly with the smart splitter which has beasted everything to date. Got in about 5mm. Tried a 4kg splitter / sledge hammer, seen the new Thor movie? Made a dent.
Had enough of fire wood today + everybody in the house is sick with allergies, shingles, heat stroke & blobby face, so made a trailer for the ride on out of an old pallet, miscellaneous stuff from the "that will be useful" pile & some trolley wheels. Cost me $34. The bar is a bit short, bastard to reverse.

unstuck
7th March 2014, 19:18
The bar is a bit short, bastard to reverse.

You need power steering on the ride on( said in my best Tim the tool man taylor voice) .:yes:

george formby
8th March 2014, 09:25
You need power steering on the ride on( said in my best Tim the tool man taylor voice) .:yes:

I reckon an 600cc parallel twin would fit under the hood.:whistle:

george formby
26th March 2014, 18:50
A few contributors in this thread may relate to this job.


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schrodingers cat
26th March 2014, 18:56
$239 from Bunnings.
It's 9 months old

There is the whole story there.

Bless

george formby
26th March 2014, 19:02
There is the whole story there.

Bless

Sad but true. Even with a husqvarna tag riveted to it.
Glad to say the wee solo, even though it's overwhelmed, is doing a sterling job. New chain soon for the poor wee thing.

unstuck
26th March 2014, 19:46
A few contributors in this thread may relate to this job.




Yep, we do that kind of thing a bit. Usually have someone on the quad with all the gear though, so we can still have a decent play while we are out there.:2thumbsup

george formby
1st July 2014, 09:48
Wonder what kind of oil this fulla is using?

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unstuck
1st July 2014, 09:52
Shot bro.:Punk::Punk:

Plastic wedges are the shizzle. :woohoo::woohoo:

jasonu
1st July 2014, 13:59
[QUOTE=george formby;1130740303]Wonder what kind of oil this fulla is using?

Nice one. Like a lot of people I can drop a tree. I just can't guarantee which way it might fall...

unstuck
1st July 2014, 14:00
[QUOTE=george formby;1130740303]Wonder what kind of oil this fulla is using?

Nice one. Like a lot of people I can drop a tree. I just can't guarantee which way it might fall...

Lol, there are lots of people like that on yewtube.:niceone:

ellipsis
28th July 2014, 11:02
A mature woman from Auckland , who was a tree hugger, Greens supporter, and an anti-hunter, purchased a piece of bush land near Coromandel.

There was a large Kauri tree on one of the highest points on the block.
She wanted a good view of the natural splendour of her land so she started to climb the big tree.

As she neared the top she encountered a mynah bird that attacked her...

In her haste to escape, the woman slid down the tree to the ground and got many splinters in her crotch.

In considerable pain, she hurried to Thames Hospital to see a doctor.
She told him she was an environmentalist, a Greenie, and an anti-hunter and how she came to get all the splinters.

The doctor listened to her story with great patience and then told her to go wait in the examining room and he would see if he could help her.

She sat and waited three hours before the doctor reappeared. The angry woman demanded, "What took you so long?"


He smiled and then told her, "Well, I had to get permits from the Department of Conservation, Resource Management Act, County Council, Regional Authority and Iwi before I could remove old-growth timber from a recreational area. I'm sorry, but they turned me down."

george formby
29th July 2014, 09:55
Getting rid of the evidence.

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I would like to see how that would go on me Wattle stump.

unstuck
29th July 2014, 18:14
Getting rid of the evidence.



I would like to see how that would go on me Wattle stump.

That would work ok on your wattle, you would need a tractor with decent horsepower to drive it though, probably be cheaper to hire a digger and dig it out though.

george formby
29th July 2014, 22:01
That would work ok on your wattle, you would need a tractor with decent horsepower to drive it though, probably be cheaper to hire a digger and dig it out though.

I'm trying to gain land not lose it.:laugh: I have thought about sticking me chainsaw into it & filling it full of diesel....

unstuck
30th July 2014, 06:21
I'm trying to gain land not lose it.:laugh: I have thought about sticking me chainsaw into it & filling it full of diesel....

:mad: Use a drill, not your saw ffs.:brick::brick::brick: Bloody newbie.:eek5:

Akzle
30th July 2014, 07:13
:mad: Use a drill, not your saw ffs.:brick::brick::brick: Bloody newbie.:eek5:

plunge cut cunt.

Scarf them too.
Once the cambium is fucked up, they die good.

george formby
30th July 2014, 09:52
:mad: Use a drill, not your saw ffs.:brick::brick::brick: Bloody newbie.:eek5:

:yes:Yup, still slick with embryonic fluid.

unstuck
30th July 2014, 18:29
plunge cut cunt.

Scarf them too.
Once the cambium is fucked up, they die good.

Plunge cut for a newbie, you trying to send him to hospital, like blow jobs, the tip is not something you want a newbie fucking around with.:crazy:

Akzle
30th July 2014, 18:39
Plunge cut for a newbie, you trying to send him to hospital, like blow jobs, the tip is not something you want a newbie fucking around with.:crazy:

gotta learn one way or another.... start gently with the underside, work that on in there, then when you've got the slot opening you lift the back and plow it in...

as for chainsawing shit... fuck i dunno.

unstuck
30th July 2014, 18:43
Gotta spread it around apparently.:laugh::laugh::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Winston001
30th July 2014, 20:36
Plunge cut for a newbie, you trying to send him to hospital, like blow jobs, the tip is not something you want a newbie fucking around with.:crazy:

Absouckinglutely. Or a cocky old hand.

Ever tell you about the time I rested the 066 on my thigh for a breather? :doctor:

Akzle
30th July 2014, 21:14
Ever tell you about the time I rested the 066 on my thigh for a breather? :doctor:

i have both of those. No chain brake, and a 3" scar on my leg.

unstuck
31st July 2014, 05:19
i have both of those. No chain brake, and a 3" scar on my leg.

Wimp, mine is about 5", but was only done with an 023. Right across the top of my knee. Hurts more when they are cutting the jagged flesh off the edges of the cut at the hospital.:cry:


Plunge cuts are fine Winstone, for someone who has done a few. Tis the only way to see how rotten some natives are on the inside.

george formby
31st July 2014, 10:04
Learned genulmen, having at me stump with the chainsaw is just a thought. Yup, plunge cut would be quick & easy but also dangerous. The saw would skitter about badly until I got a decent bite into it. Put's me off a bit. No doubt not the best thing for me wee saw, either.
I plunge cut some holes into big fence posts to build a locking retaining wall, no dramas, but that was treated pine. Quite surprised at how accurately & delicately a saw can be used with a bit of thought.

Every time I pick one of them up the Husqvarna dealers words ring in my ears. "You can't stitch mince". I always wear me chaps, hemlet, eye protection ect. ATGATT even in the garden.

ellipsis
31st July 2014, 10:16
...any high speed, motorised, on a bench, in your hands tool is much like riding a motorcycle...if you take your mind off the job in hand then what happens next is up to the tool, ...sometimes you are lucky sometimes you are fucked...keep your mind on the job at all times...

george formby
31st July 2014, 10:21
...any high speed, motorised, on a bench, in your hands tool is much like riding a motorcycle...if you take your mind off the job in hand then what happens next is up to the tool, ...sometimes you are lucky sometimes you are fucked...keep your mind on the job at all times...

Oh, believe me, I do. I wear a helmet & goggles juicing carrots.

My built in "thatcouldhurtometer" is very finely tuned.

Winston001
31st July 2014, 21:10
Stihl

There is no other saw. Got five of them with my brother. Hard care saws.

unstuck
31st July 2014, 21:16
I used to think that too, but I like my huskys just as much now. Especially when buying spare parts.:niceone:

Winston001
31st July 2014, 21:20
Learned genulmen, having at me stump with the chainsaw is just a thought. Yup, plunge cut would be quick & easy but also dangerous. The saw would skitter about badly until I got a decent bite into it. Put's me off a bit. No doubt not the best thing for me wee saw, either.


Good. What we are taiking about is the danger of chainsaws kicking back. It isn't funny or something you try and see. Kickback is brutal. Either the saw kicks up and the chainbrake stops the chain, or the operater pulls back the saw into his lower leg. Its a nasty wound.

Experienced people know this so we joke about injuries but chainsaws are tigers and a little bit of fear is very healthy. Take care.

george formby
31st July 2014, 22:08
Good. What we are taiking about is the danger of chainsaws kicking back. It isn't funny or something you try and see. Kickback is brutal. Either the saw kicks up and the chainbrake stops the chain, or the operater pulls back the saw into his lower leg. Its a nasty wound.

Experienced people know this so we joke about injuries but chainsaws are tigers and a little bit of fear is very healthy. Take care.

I'm a chef & spend a lot of time working very quickly with very sharp or very hot things in me hands. There is only one way to do this unscathed and that's the right way. Obey the Golden rules & all is well & efficient.

Slowly getting their with me Solo, which I'm loving.

I need to prune a Monkey Cherry tree, the trunk forms three smaller trunks which I need to cut off. It's a bastard job for me, no experience, but I think I have it figured out and will get my friendly, local chainsaw instructor to look over my shoulder while I do it.

He can also get his behemoth husky 69cc light sabre into some more of me Wattle. Perhaps I can? That's a cool thought.

Akzle
1st August 2014, 05:37
Oh, believe me, I do. I wear a helmet & goggles juicing carrots.

My built in "thatcouldhurtometer" is very finely tuned.

ironically, the only time i hurt myself is while wearing safety gear.

Proper technique counts for much.

Akzle
1st August 2014, 05:52
He can also get his behemoth husky 69cc light sabre into some more of me Wattle. Perhaps I can? That's a cool thought.

1. Thats no hemoth. Me mann up the road got his sel' a ms880.


...120cc motherfucker. Shit will fuck trees up for days.
2. Larger saws are no more dangerous.
3. The tip is the only part that causes kickback. Infact the top 90¤ radius. If youre a professional bad ass, which i clearly am, you can start a plunge cut with it, as long as you keep the point (where chain changes direction) uninvolved till last.
I highly dont recomend it, but shows what can be done with care.
4. Do it pussy.

jasonu
1st August 2014, 13:42
1. Thats no hemoth. Me mann up the road got his sel' a ms880.


...120cc motherfucker. Shit will fuck trees up for days.
2. Larger saws are no more dangerous.
3. The tip is the only part that causes kickback. Infact the top 90¤ radius. If youre a professional bad ass, whick i clearly am, you can start a plunge cut with it, as long as you keep the point (where chain changes direction) uninvloved till last.
I highly dont recomend it, but shows what can be done with care.
4. Do it pussy.

Surprisingly good points and advice...:clap:

george formby
1st August 2014, 14:02
Surprisingly good points and advice...:clap:

Points 1,2 and 3 are in my go to handbook, "How to cut down trees with a chainsaw bloodlessly" by Tim Bear.

Point 4 was mentioned in an American drama serial on TV last night. Totally unrelated to chainsaws, though.

Akzle
1st August 2014, 17:31
Points 1,2 and 3 are in my go to handbook, "How to cut down trees with a chainsaw bloodlessly" by Tim Bear.

Point 4 was mentioned in an American drama serial on TV last night. Totally unrelated to chainsaws, though.

i wonder why me manns up the road is in your book...

unstuck
1st August 2014, 17:36
Barnacle parps guide to the chainsaw, is the bible for woodcutting anoraks.:shifty:

george formby
1st August 2014, 23:26
Barnacle parps guide to the chainsaw, is the bible for woodcutting anoraks.:shifty:

Your not shitting, I just looked.

Not sure if it's you or sadly me but I was expecting pages of Barnacle genitalia, reproductive processes and uses in the kitchen.

I doff my cap for my doubt.

ellipsis
5th November 2014, 11:59
...I'm off to town to buy my son a chainsaw...me being a brand loyal type of egg and loving my Stihls for many years does not mean that I should automatically buy the same for him, but probably will...or a Husky...anyone want to add anything before I get in my truck and speed off...Stihl or Husqvarna?...

george formby
5th November 2014, 12:15
...I'm off to town to buy my son a chainsaw...me being a brand loyal type of egg and loving my Stihls for many years does not mean that I should automatically buy the same for him, but probably will...or a Husky...anyone want to add anything before I get in my truck and speed off...Stihl or Husqvarna?...

Don't write off Solo. My local farm centre sells them with full back up, parts etc. Spoke to some local owners & they highly rate them even as a commercial saw. Significantly sharper price, too.
I've knocked the snot out of mine & it still starts & runs like new. Admittedly it runs Castrol TTS now.:whistle:
Just sayin.

Akzle
5th November 2014, 12:49
...I'm off to town to buy my son a chainsaw...me being a brand loyal type of egg and loving my Stihls for many years does not mean that I should automatically buy the same for him, but probably will...or a Husky...anyone want to add anything before I get in my truck and speed off...Stihl or Husqvarna?...

stihl. if you're using it all day, and you're not an orangutan. the balance is fucking perfect and side by side with other brands they're lighter, better vibe damping..wank wank wank.
get stihl. unless you hate him. then go bunnings and buy poolan.

unstuck
5th November 2014, 13:26
What does he intend to do with it? If it is an occasional use saw, then go with the cheaper brands and show him how to look after it . If he wants to do some serious work, Husky. Sthil are out for me until they can compete with husky on parts prices.:Punk::Punk:

Akzle
5th November 2014, 13:57
Husky. Sthil are out for me until they can compete with husky on parts prices.:Punk::Punk:

nahh. they just dont fucken break. :P :bleh:

unstuck
5th November 2014, 14:46
Oil pump drive on both my 023 and 025 wear out fairly quickly with prolonged use, and they are fucked if they nip up thanks to the chrome bores that sthil like to use.:niceone:

HenryDorsetCase
5th November 2014, 15:03
I have an electric chainsaw. It is surprisingly grunty.

Hope this helps.

unstuck
5th November 2014, 16:15
I have an electric chainsaw. It is surprisingly grunty.

Hope this helps.

Im sure there is a ladies thread around somewhere you can post about your toys.;)

HenryDorsetCase
5th November 2014, 16:35
Im sure there is a ladies thread around somewhere you can post about your toys.;)

thats what KB is for though, right?

I actually bought it as a "one job" thing one sunday when the "proper" shops were all shut. It is surprising what the thing has cut. I did a "safety course" years ago with some graphic pics so I am pretty careful about the thing...

unstuck
5th November 2014, 17:34
thats what KB is for though, right?

I actually bought it as a "one job" thing one sunday when the "proper" shops were all shut. It is surprising what the thing has cut. I did a "safety course" years ago with some graphic pics so I am pretty careful about the thing...

Actually I got a ryobi one from the dump years ago, that I use to cut up pallets with. It cuts nails and all, not bad for a freebie.:Punk::Punk:

ellipsis
5th November 2014, 22:24
...drove straight to the Stihl shop...done...they also just happened to have a show week discount going on...

Winston001
5th November 2014, 22:44
...I'm off to town to buy my son a chainsaw...me being a brand loyal type of egg and loving my Stihls for many years does not mean that I should automatically buy the same for him, but probably will...or a Husky...anyone want to add anything before I get in my truck and speed off...Stihl or Husqvarna?...

Stihl. Between my brother and I we have five of them. He's a farmer and I'm just obsessive/compulsive. :D

Stihl are expensive and if you wanted to put time and effort into selecting another manufacturer you could possibly find better bang for your buck.

However if you are comfortable with Stihl and familiar with their saws then I'd say stay with what you know. They are utterly reliable and very easy to sell second-hand. My advice - if you can, buy a pro saw. That's the even numbered Stihls - MS261, MS441 etc.

I regard my 066 the same way I regarded my (deceased) Ducati.

Winston001
5th November 2014, 23:58
Just an additional comment - Stihl NZ are not stupid. They know you can buy a 40cc saw at Mitre 10 for $299. So Stihl have been gradually reducing their prices in recent years.

I bought an 025 in 1997 for $600. Today you can buy the new saw for $780 on sale (maybe less) which is cheaper in real terms than in 1997.

jasonu
6th November 2014, 06:15
...I'm off to town to buy my son a chainsaw...me being a brand loyal type of egg and loving my Stihls for many years does not mean that I should automatically buy the same for him, but probably will...or a Husky...anyone want to add anything before I get in my truck and speed off...Stihl or Husqvarna?...
I like husky but either brand mentioned is top notch.

awayatc
6th November 2014, 06:20
. My advice - if you can, buy a pro saw. That's the even numbered Stihls - MS261, MS441 etc.



even...?

Sounds odd......

unstuck
6th November 2014, 06:47
Just an additional comment - Stihl NZ are not stupid. They know you can buy a 40cc saw at Mitre 10 for $299. So Stihl have been gradually reducing their prices in recent years.

I bought an 025 in 1997 for $600. Today you can buy the new saw for $780 on sale (maybe less) which is cheaper in real terms than in 1997.

True, but once you start comparing parts and accessories with Husky, that is where they are going wrong.:niceone:

BigAl
6th November 2014, 09:36
Just bought myself an Ms311 as sick of cheap Chinese saws that bits fall off every time you use them.

60cc and 20" bar, even got a decompression knob, nothings going to get in the way of that sucker ;)

Strangely I fine myself checking out neighbour hood trees..... :whistle:

http://www.stihl.co.nz/upload/assetmanager/modell_imagefilename/scaled/zoom/M-MS311-L001_p.jpg

ellipsis
6th November 2014, 09:56
...the question was fairly hypothetical anyway...a bit like 'Honda or Yamaha'...I would always go with the homo bike...I was adding up the Husky pro's and con's and nearly went that way, but my truck seemed to pull to the left all the way into the city...I took that as my default answer and bought him the Stihl...my boy is a bit like me...easy on gear and it is just something to have in his truck in case he needs one...it wont be getting a tenth of the use that lots of saws get...I'm kind of hoping that it gets a bit of use around here come firewood time...if he gets half the trouble free time out of it that my Stihl has given me, he shouldn't need another one for about 11 years...

unstuck
6th November 2014, 10:27
even got a decompression knob,

Dont even think about pulling that out, pussy.:bleh:

oldrider
6th November 2014, 10:37
Thinking of buying a small (14") electric (might even look at battery job) chainsaw for odd jobbing! ... Any experience with these? :confused:

unstuck
6th November 2014, 10:40
Dewalt, ryobi do some good electric stuff.:shifty:







For the ladies.:innocent:

BigAl
6th November 2014, 11:58
Yep got a Mcculloch lecky saw for small stuff but as Unstuck sez say that its the missus's :msn-wink:

Great for using up trees if your cord is long enough......

unstuck
6th November 2014, 12:12
Great for using up trees if your cord is long enough......

And that ladies and gentleman, is why we have OSH. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

HenryDorsetCase
6th November 2014, 12:19
Thinking of buying a small (14") electric (might even look at battery job) chainsaw for odd jobbing! ... Any experience with these? :confused:

I bought one labelled "Morrison" for exactly that reason: had a bunch of trees to prune one sunday and only a hand saw to do it. Fuck that, and off to (I think) placemakers and bought the cheapest one. 150 scrilla. Thought it would be a one shot deal but like the shitty XU1 grinder I bought from Bunnings on the same basis, it just keeps on going. I ended up getting a bit carried away with it all and cutting some quite big trees down: maybe 200mm dia? It did every thing i wanted it for and more. Plus no fucking about with petrol or premix etc.

I have RCD extension cords for africa so that is no issue. Just be bloody careful with it like any saw, and be aware of where your cord is and where it is dragging... that is the worst part about it.

I see Ryobi advertising a 36V battery one which I would like to have a hoon on.

I just wish mine were pink because its my favourite colour. As it is it clashes horribly with my Makita stuff.

unstuck
6th November 2014, 12:27
I bought one labelled "Morrison" for exactly that reason: had a bunch of trees to prune one sunday and only a hand saw to do it. Fuck that, and off to (I think) placemakers and bought the cheapest one. 150 scrilla. Thought it would be a one shot deal but like the shitty XU1 grinder I bought from Bunnings on the same basis, it just keeps on going. I ended up getting a bit carried away with it all and cutting some quite big trees down: maybe 200mm dia? It did every thing i wanted it for and more. Plus no fucking about with petrol or premix etc.

I have RCD extension cords for africa so that is no issue. Just be bloody careful with it like any saw, and be aware of where your cord is and where it is dragging... that is the worst part about it.

I see Ryobi advertising a 36V battery one which I would like to have a hoon on.

I just wish mine were pink because its my favourite colour. As it is it clashes horribly with my Makita stuff.

Thinking about what to do when you can no longer ride, buying electric chainsaws. Your fucked mate, may as well go the whole hog and get a sex change.:innocent:

oldrider
6th November 2014, 12:29
Dewalt, ryobi do some good electric stuff.:shifty:For the ladies.:innocent:


Yep got a Mcculloch lecky saw for small stuff but as Unstuck sez say that its the missus's :msn-wink:
Great for using up trees if your cord is long enough......


I bought one labelled "Morrison" for exactly that reason: had a bunch of trees to prune one sunday and only a hand saw to do it. Fuck that, and off to (I think) placemakers and bought the cheapest one. 150 scrilla. Thought it would be a one shot deal but like the shitty XU1 grinder I bought from Bunnings on the same basis, it just keeps on going. I ended up getting a bit carried away with it all and cutting some quite big trees down: maybe 200mm dia? It did every thing i wanted it for and more. Plus no fucking about with petrol or premix etc.

I have RCD extension cords for africa so that is no issue. Just be bloody careful with it like any saw, and be aware of where your cord is and where it is dragging... that is the worst part about it.

I see Ryobi advertising a 36V battery one which I would like to have a hoon on.

I just wish mine were pink because its my favourite colour. As it is it clashes horribly with my Makita stuff.

Funny about that, I was mixing the thinking that it was going to be for her ... guess it must be a bit of a guy thing! :lol:

I am going to check out the Ryobi offerings before I make a purchase ... our daughter tells us she bought a cheapie too and it is brilliant! :niceone:

HenryDorsetCase
6th November 2014, 13:20
Thinking about what to do when you can no longer ride, buying electric chainsaws. Your fucked mate, may as well go the whole hog and get a sex change.:innocent:

I would except the only surgeon in NZ who did it has retired.

Fuck imagine how much it would hurt. Chopping the old fella down the middle and turning it inside out to become a vag.

yowza.

awa355
6th November 2014, 13:39
Thinking of buying a small (14") electric (might even look at battery job) chainsaw for odd jobbing! ... Any experience with these? :confused:

I have a Homelite electric chainsaw purchased 6 years ago. I use it for cutting firewood pallets and limbs up to 20cm thick. This winter I cut up over 100 Totara posts for firewood, never struggled once. Has more grunt than my Petrol powered saw with the same length bar. (14"). It has never failed to run, plug in and squeeze the trigger. You are a bit limited in outside conditions eg; wet weather, distance limited to the length of your extension cord.
I drain the chainbar oil out before storing it as the oil tends to seep out via the oil outlet to the chain.

No experience with a battery powered saw. Would need a decent battery.

george formby
6th November 2014, 22:35
Interestin posts. I have quite a few rampant fruit trees which I have had to climb to prune & densely overgrown areas to clear. Machete & loppers to reach the trees. Secateurs or scrub bar with a blade for the creepers, wild roses, young bamboo, ginger, gorse etc. Once I have access or am up a fruit tree I've found the best tool for the job is a pruning saw. Not a sminky silky, just a plain old $10 disposable jobby. My tool of choice for 15cm or less. Not worth the hassle & general mucking around with a chainsaw. I can go through the scrub like agent orange.

ellipsis
6th November 2014, 23:38
...I'd just hire Mexicans if ya could...

awayatc
7th November 2014, 06:03
Thinking of buying a small (14") electric (might even look at battery job) chainsaw for odd jobbing! ... Any experience with these? :confused:

Why lectric?

oleo mac are a decent European saw brandnew for little over 200 bucks......
google them.....
if you need to know more can give you info and where to buy......

Akzle
7th November 2014, 06:27
Interestin posts. I have quite a few rampant fruit trees which I have had to climb to prune & densely overgrown areas to clear. Machete & loppers to reach the trees. Secateurs or scrub bar with a blade for the creepers, wild roses, young bamboo, ginger, gorse etc. Once I have access or am up a fruit tree I've found the best tool for the job is a pruning saw. Not a sminky silky, just a plain old $10 disposable jobby. My tool of choice for 15cm or less. Not worth the hassle & general mucking around with a chainsaw. I can go through the scrub like agent orange.

silkys are like fuken moses, last for days too.
B*nnings macgregor? brand, Folding, green handle yelow bits, are worth a third of a silky price, too.

daniberry
12th September 2017, 02:08
Most of the chainsaw (http://findchainsaw.com) fails due to imbalance of oil mixing ratio. One should be careful when mixing oil.

Euro2018
12th September 2017, 06:49
I've had a new Stihl seize three times and absolutely not due to my mixing.

After much heated discussion with Stihl shop, Stihl NZ and another saw dealer I eventually discovered that Stihl had fitted the wrong jet at the factory, so the saw was always running lean.

By the third seize I didn't want their saw back and Stihl NZ eventually refunded purchase price and all repair costs.

The other thing I learned was Stihl (and probably other saw makers) recommend against using petrol more than 3 weeks old. Needs to be fresh. Or, add some petrol stabiliser to it.
The Stihl stabiliser will keep the petrol good for about two years.

Akzle
12th September 2017, 09:07
I've had a new Stihl seize three times and absolutely not due to my mixing.

After much heated discussion with Stihl shop, Stihl NZ and another saw dealer I eventually discovered that Stihl had fitted the wrong jet at the factory, so the saw was always running lean.

By the third seize I didn't want their saw back and Stihl NZ eventually refunded purchase price and all repair costs.

The other thing I learned was Stihl (and probably other saw makers) recommend against using petrol more than 3 weeks old. Needs to be fresh. Or, add some petrol stabiliser to it.
The Stihl stabiliser will keep the petrol good for about two years.

you'd do better hiring a fucken saw if you don't use it for 2 years :crazy:

that anecdote is also well outside what "mostly fails chainsaws" - though you're quite right, it isn't fucking fuel mix.

tri boy
12th September 2017, 20:56
Here is my pruning saw. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9x8rBKC4BE

When you get some Big Boy pants, try a Logmax harvesting head fitted to a R290LC-9 digger.

cods4
13th September 2017, 14:10
When you get some Big Boy pants, try a Logmax harvesting head fitted to a R290LC-9 digger.

Support local! http://waratah.com/

pritch
13th September 2017, 17:14
Supercheap usually has a range of oils including a choice of full synthetics. I used to keep the moped topped up with one or other Silkolene by Fuchs.

george formby
13th September 2017, 19:37
Update de doo.

My Solo has never missed a beat, the 4th chain is looking pretty toothless. I've continued to thrash it mercilessly. As my ability and confidence has grown so has my need for a bigger chainsaw. The poor little bugger is slicing trunks 50% over bar length. I've maintained a 35:1 ratio of oils which are rated at 50:1, currently Oleo Mac, it was on special. Hasn't been de-coked yet but I have had to lower the idle slightly, it was running on at rest. I've also tweeked the top end screw so it sings crisper and does not lose power on bigger trees. Minor adjustments at either end and no doubt necessary after being fully abused, er, run in.

Still starts and runs like new. Unstuck's (where's he gone?) advice about air line cleaning is priceless.

That bastard Wattle trunk was finally sliced up last summer. Paid an acquaintance $80 to cut it into rings. He has the biggest stihl I've ever seen! I struggled to lift it. Just split it with an axe he said, the axe bent. The 12 tonne hydraulic splitter just made nasty noises, like a whale with asthma. We split it with a 4kg splitter held by my G/F while I went ape on it with a 6kg sledge hammer. The splitter is slightly twisted and the sledge hammer has dents in it. Shit, it burns amazing, though. Still got some left!

Akzle, if your still keen to be a tree fella I have two really old, huge, cantankerous, gnarly pines that will fall in a cyclone...... Are you insured for property damage? When these big buggers go they could be a living room feature.

Akzle
13th September 2017, 19:40
Supercheap usually has a range of oils including a choice of full synthetics. I used to keep the moped topped up with one or other Silkolene by Fuchs.

nah fuchs that. real men are all mineral.

george formby
13th September 2017, 19:53
nah fuchs that. real men are all mineral.

You have a valid point. Men need micronutrients to be, well, er, effective men. No minerals, no wood.

russd7
13th September 2017, 22:04
Update de doo.

My Solo has never missed a beat, the 4th chain is looking pretty toothless. I've continued to thrash it mercilessly. As my ability and confidence has grown so has my need for a bigger chainsaw. The poor little bugger is slicing trunks 50% over bar length. I've maintained a 35:1 ratio of oils which are rated at 50:1, currently Oleo Mac, it was on special. Hasn't been de-coked yet but I have had to lower the idle slightly, it was running on at rest. I've also tweeked the top end screw so it sings crisper and does not lose power on bigger trees. Minor adjustments at either end and no doubt necessary after being fully abused, er, run in.

Still starts and runs like new. Unstuck's (where's he gone?) advice about air line cleaning is priceless.

That bastard Wattle trunk was finally sliced up last summer. Paid an acquaintance $80 to cut it into rings. He has the biggest stihl I've ever seen! I struggled to lift it. Just split it with an axe he said, the axe bent. The 12 tonne hydraulic splitter just made nasty noises, like a whale with asthma. We split it with a 4kg splitter held by my G/F while I went ape on it with a 6kg sledge hammer. The splitter is slightly twisted and the sledge hammer has dents in it. Shit, it burns amazing, though. Still got some left!

Akzle, if your still keen to be a tree fella I have two really old, huge, cantankerous, gnarly pines that will fall in a cyclone...... Are you insured for property damage? When these big buggers go they could be a living room feature.
yup, my solo has never let me down, don't have much use for it now, but i know that if i go out an chuck some fresh fuel in it will fire up,have no idea how many chains i have been through. for a general purpose fire wood saw i think they are underated

Akzle
14th September 2017, 00:28
Supercheap usually has a range of oils including a choice of full synthetics. I used to keep the moped topped up with one or other Silkolene by Fuchs.

nah fuchs that. real men are all mineral.

Akzle
14th September 2017, 00:45
Update de doo.

My Solo has never missed a beat, the 4th chain is looking pretty toothless.

Akzle, if your still keen to be a tree fella I have two really old, huge, cantankerous, gnarly pines that will fall in a cyclone...... Are you insured for property damage? When these big buggers go they could be a living room feature.

4 chains... that's like brand new. hope you're flipping the bar regular.

running-on could well be shagged throwout springs in the clutch. easy fix. but it sounds like your idle was high anyway.

also you can do 2x bar length, felling or blocking.

jewsurance??? you gotta be taking the piss.
i can absolutely promise that i probably wont break your house. you'll just have to wait until after fishing. and you're on the wrong side of the water eh.

george formby
30th September 2020, 17:45
I thought I would share the wonderful effect that buying a 12" toy with brushless motor has had on my girlfriend. I really like it, too, perfect for a quickie.



It's a Ryobi leccy chainsaw with a 12 inch bar for her outdoors to prune, slash and annihilate any bit of shrubbery that pops up uninvited.

Impressed I am. It won't do metres of firewood but for general trimming and odd jobs it's a revelation. No starting, no fueling, stick the battery in and cut. Chuck it back in the shed again. It happily cuts through retaining posts as big as the bar and the battery's (4.0amph) last a remarkably long time.

Off the top of my head it was about $250, no battery, I had those already.

Might be food for thought for someone who needs a chainsaw for smaller jobs occasionally and already has Ryobi batteries.