Tips on drifting a GN

[Spaz]

I have been trying to pull some drifts on my GN in the wet lately and wanted a few tips.
I asked Kerry about it and he said I would fall on my arse if I kept doing this. I did two weeks later and haven't tryed again.
But after seeing this vid http://www.bikepics.com/movies/000062/, I have started thinking about drifting again.
How do the super motoard riders pull tricks like this? Any tips for a novice with an underpowered bike?

[nsrpaul]

when I had a gn it had a dr500 donk droped in , made driftin in the wet a piece of piss

[Mr Skid]

If you want to slide the rear tyre, you'd be better off with trail bike ergos.

On the GN I'd say you'd need to lean the bike over a fair bit to get the rear to let go, and it'd be easier to do in first gear corners.

If this is more than a passing fad, I'd suggest looking at some of the other schools of riding, other than Motard. Flat track / speedway isn't as trendy as motard, but you could study some technique if you go out to Rosebank Domain.

Oh, also if you come on KB to say how you crashed your GN trying to slide the rear, I will laugh at you.

[myvice]

As you have NO POWER to play with you’re going to have to use the back brake to lock up the rear wheel, drop down a couple of gears (bout 2nd should do it) then power :rofl: out of the corner.
Get that back tyre nice and hard too, 40psi+
Don’t come running to me if you hurt yourself!
And you will to you get it right!


400 posts and I'm telling people how to stay in hosptal?
It's just not right!

[NordieBoy]

I have started thinking about drifting again.
How do the super motoard riders pull tricks like this? Any tips for a novice with an underpowered bike?

Hard on the front brake, down 1-2 gears and feather the clutch to prevent the rear hopping.

I've got a DVD of Rob Cross explaining how to do it and he takes about 5mins to say it all.

[bane]

when I had a gn it had a dr500 donk droped in , made driftin in the wet a piece of piss

not to mention frame flex :rofl:

[nsrpaul]

not to mention frame flex :rofl:
heaps of flex , was quite crappy realy

[Motu]

Not the best sort of bike for it....but not the worst.Put some wider bars on,dirt bars or full westerns,they are a flattrack style.If you can get on a bit of grass you'll be away,the best surface for sliding street tyres is hard pack clay.Toss it hard into the corner using extreme engine braking,chopping down a gear as you toss it down - this is far more controlable than using the brake as you won't lock the wheel,as you get to the apex or before slam the throttle on hard,wide open,with a bit of luck you may keep the slide going,but a 250 single won't keep it out for long.I learnt to slide on the street before I road off road....but I was riding a 650 Triumph.

[froggyfrenchman]

keep the back tyre real hard, lean over till pegs scrape, chop down, full nuts and drop clutch. i can drift my girls gn, bt nt 4 long. WARNING- you will fall off and hurt urself and bike. be warned. Grass is a good place to learn

[Mental Trousers]

MX style may work. Climb as far forward on the gas tank as you can and brake hard with the front brake, turn in and gas it and control the slide with the outside foot (weight on outside peg = grip, less weight = less grip).

Could be difficult on the GN cos the layout doesn't suit getting weight forward so the rear has less traction. Do it wrong and you may well be singing soprano for a while.

[Sniper]

I have one question...... Why?

[Jantar]

You can minimise your drift by ensuring that both tyres are in good condition and at the right pressure. Keep your body line and bike line perfectly matched, but weight your foot pegs rather than your seat.

This may help you stay out of hospital a bit longer, and increase your cornering speed safely. :ride:

[FROSTY]

Not on the road sunshine. If ya wanna do that kinda stuff practice in a carpark or beter still head up to woodhill forest.
Word of warning -with street tyres on the road WHEN it goes pearshaped it goes that way really fast. it goes summat like --slide slide grip grip -flick CRUNCH --the crunch is you sitting on ya ass on the road.
The wise sage MOTU has it covered --youll need flat bars on the GNU to get the control you need.

[loosebruce]

You're asking for it trying on a GN250, spesh on the road, find some grass or slippery surface (other than a wet road) like Motu said earlier, or buy another bike more suited to the task.

[Spaz]

I have one question...... Why?

Because I don't have a CBR250RR

[Spaz]

Cheers guys,
Yes it is a passing fad, so the grass looks like where I'll be playing for now (at least until I get my full licence). I've got a really slick Pirrelli on the back, so off road sounds like fun, fun, fun.
I've already got ACC sponsorship (only costs me $15 for every trip to the osteopath) from singing soprano a couple of times this year. I do accept that I will fall off and hurt myself. with the chance that cars will pull out in front of me I have to accept the danger everytime I start the bike up (not that it's really much of a bike to start up really).
So playing on the grass looks like where I'll be heading. less traffic to run me over when I fall flat on my arse and easy ground to light the rear up on.
Cheers once again.

P.S. Drifting a GN is something a silly billy would do, what makes you think I didn't expect you to laugh at me for just trying it?

Spaz

[Mr. Peanut]

Ive drifted my SJ125 scooter in the wet (125kg dry weight) :doobey: sitting way forward, go into corner at about 20km/h lean hard and put weight on forward foot rests, then just use the throttle to pull the back out. Its really controllable, but at the same time I can' help but imagine myself falling on my ass doing it.

That 14hp seems to go a way even through a CVT :rofl:

Little 125 thumper even sounds like a motard :niceone:

[sir.pratt]

You've been reading last months (or the month before) Kiwi Rider haven't you, the GN250 vs XL250 test....

Try it on the gravel like he did. Heaps more control.

[Ixion]

You've been reading last months (or the month before) Kiwi Rider haven't you, the GN250 vs XL250 test....

Try it on the gravel like he did. Heaps more control.

How did the GN go on gravel. I've always reckoned they'd be good.

[sir.pratt]

Maybe Big Dave has a copy he can attach

[Motu]

Dunno why you want to know about getting sideways if you aim to get a sportsbike.Keep the tyre pressures low....you want to maintain traction,not lose it completely,it will be hard to get over inflated tyres back under control again.You want to get the tyre sliding,and then maintain it there,with low pressures you can ride in this zone far better,it's not so knife edge.