Innocent until proven guilty

[Rhys]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9554325/Grandma-pinned-as-boy-racer

So she had a red car and a number plate similar to the offender and she has to prove it wasn't her car?

The police do themselves no favors!

[blackdog]

Fucking disgusting, yet I don't find myself surprised.

Incompetence abounds.

[AllanB]

Funny really. Can't say I've not made a mistake or two at work. Guess she gets her 5 minutes of 'fame'.

[Scuba_Steve]

Another case of NZ's biggest criminal gang illegally harassing the public & stealing peoples property; this is why the only cops I can feel sorry for when assaulted is the dogs

[FJRider]

Funny really. Can't say I've not made a mistake or two at work. Guess she gets her 5 minutes of 'fame'.

At least the cops are active in the search for the actual stolen vehicle ... and not just eating donuts and watching the world turn to shit ...

Funny how HER attitude might be different if it was HER car that was stolen ...

[SMOKEU]

This is nothing more than legalized theft. FTP.

[Akzle]

who cares, it's a fucking car.

[Jantar]

At least the cops are active in the search for the actual stolen vehicle ... and not just eating donuts and watching the world turn to shit ...

Funny how HER attitude might be different if it was HER car that was stolen ...

What stolen vehicle?

[Big Dave]

Similar thing happened to us. Car was impounded for loss of traction on the report of a Chubb security guard driving past.

The vehicle didn't have enough power to break traction - let alone sustained. Just wasn't possible.

We hired a lawyer. Apology and compensation was forthcoming after several days of inconvenience.

[Zedder]

Fucking disgusting, yet I don't find myself surprised.

Incompetence abounds.

Maybe the cops thought the witness reported "someone doing doughnuts". They may have believed there were free doughnuts available and over reacted accordingly...

[ellipsis]

...a cop with a brain has sorted it out for grandma...and says the costs to her will be reimbursed...still should not of happened in the first place...if I told them that I think whoever may have stolen my bike or broke my windows or fucked my cat lived at such and such, I bet they wouldn't be around there in a flash...unless I could prove it...

[scumdog]

Another case of NZ's biggest criminal gang illegally harassing the public & stealing peoples property; this is why the only cops I can feel sorry for when assaulted is the dogs

Suck it up baby, suck it up!:bleh:

[slofox]

...a cop with a brain has sorted it out for grandma...and says the costs to her will be reimbursed...still should not of happened in the first place...if I told them that I think whoever may have stolen my bike or broke my windows or fucked my cat lived at such and such, I bet they wouldn't be around there in a flash...unless I could prove it...

If I'd made the mistake that set this all off, I'd feel obligated to get the chauffeur to drive me off the bridge on the way home...

[huff3r]

You were all cheering when the boy racing impound and crushing laws that assume guilt until innocence is proven were passed. Now it affects an innocent and your whinging? They are and always were dumb laws.

[AllanB]

Mind you there is someone I do not like. Maybe a call to the police stating they are doing burnouts would be a good move .........

[SMOKEU]

You were all cheering when the boy racing impound and crushing laws that assume guilt until innocence is proven were passed. Now it affects an innocent and your whinging? They are and always were dumb laws.

I was never cheering as I knew these laws would target innocent people.

[Flip]

You were all cheering when the boy racing impound and crushing laws that assume guilt until innocence is proven were passed. Now it affects an innocent and your whinging? They are and always were dumb laws.

Its a great law. It is helping to keep the fuck heads off the road. It's just unfortunate that grannies car matched the discription of a boi racer and the number plate was so close.

It's the price that the good people of this country has to pay because of the criminal actions of a very small minority group. Let me know if I am wrong but the Rozza can confiscate a vehicle but cant do anything with it without a court order?

Personally speaking I would gladly have my fast car confiscated if it contributed in some small part to getting a boi racer off the road.

[SMOKEU]

Its a great law. It is helping to keep the fuck heads off the road. It's just unfortunate that grannies car matched the discription of a boi racer and the number plate was so close.


LMFAO!

The death toll each year is still around 300 on NZ roads. Bikers are still being mown down by cagers with alarming regularity. How's that anything close to keeping the fuck heads off the roads? These laws are nothing about public safety, and all about politics.

[Madness]

At least the cops are active in the search for the actual stolen vehicle ... and not just eating donuts and watching the world turn to shit ...

Funny how HER attitude might be different if it was HER car that was stolen ...


What stolen vehicle?

The vehicle that was stolen using a bright pink Chinook helicopter, being piloted by a dude in a Santa outfit and dreadlocks.

FJ is back :facepalm:


Its a great law. It is helping to keep the fuck heads off the road. It's just unfortunate that grannies car matched the discription of a boi racer and the number plate was so close.

It's the price that the good people of this country has to pay because of the criminal actions of a very small minority group. Let me know if I am wrong but the Rozza can confiscate a vehicle but cant do anything with it without a court order?

Personally speaking I would gladly have my fast car confiscated if it contributed in some small part to getting a boi racer off the road.

You're a cock.

[Tazz]

Personally speaking I would gladly have my fast car confiscated if it contributed in some small part to getting a boi racer off the road.

I wouldn't, my only source of transport or not.
Different story if someone is caught red handed, but to be minding your own business and have the fuzz come and take your car legally for no reason (really, it was no reason, she hadn't done anything wrong and could prove from the get go with the time stamp on her receipt) is taking the piss.

Glad someone engaged their grey matter rather than reading from the rule book to sort it out, although it took a video :p

[Akzle]

I would gladly have my fast car confiscated if it contributed in some small part to getting a boi racer off the road.

fast car. By comparison to a hardley...

A bambina!

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Mind you there is someone I do not like. Maybe a call to the police stating they are doing burnouts would be a good move .........
This is very tempting, wonder how many people will actually try it?

[munster]

Personally speaking I would gladly have my fast car confiscated if it contributed in some small part to getting a boi racer off the road.

"They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin for the Pennsylvania Assembly in its Reply to the Governor (11 Nov. 1755)

[nzmikey]

:scratch: .... Slow clap:facepalm:

[Flip]

"They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin for the Pennsylvania Assembly in its Reply to the Governor (11 Nov. 1755)

My point is

'The children now love luxury; they show disrespect for elders and
love chatter in place of exercise. Children are tyrants, not servants
of the households. They no longer rise when their elders enter the
room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up
dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize over their
teachers.'

Socrates 399 BC

I don't see boi racers as modern day patriots I see them as rebels without a clue.:bleh:

[Flip]

fast car. By comparison to a hardley...

A bambina!

Well yes it is a baby car, but not a bambina.

[mashman]

My point is

'The children now love luxury; they show disrespect for elders and
love chatter in place of exercise. Children are tyrants, not servants
of the households. They no longer rise when their elders enter the
room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up
dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize over their
teachers.'

Socrates 399 BC

I don't see boi racers as modern day patriots I see them as rebels without a clue.:bleh:

Socrates allowed himself to be murdered by the govt. When he was faced with an option to flee he turned it down in order to face his execution. Perhaps adults should rise when children enter the room. Perhaps adults need to earn respect from their servants (servants? really? slavery?), as respect is a two way street. They are learning, this takes chatter and engagement as they do not have the knowledge that adults have. Adults are so fuckin stupid they don't realise that they are the ones who teach the children by example. Sit down, shut up, you are here to learn. Aye, fuckin spectacular example to set impressionable minds... and then you wonder why they are the way they are.

There have always been "boi racers" because adults still haven't clicked that they are teaching the behaviour that they despise so much. It's kind of poetic in ways.

[Ocean1]

Socrates allowed himself to be murdered by the govt. When he was faced with an option to flee he turned it down in order to face his execution. Perhaps adults should rise when children enter the room. Perhaps adults need to earn respect from their servants (servants? really? slavery?), as respect is a two way street. They are learning, this takes chatter and engagement as they do not have the knowledge that adults have. Adults are so fuckin stupid they don't realise that they are the ones who teach the children by example. Sit down, shut up, you are here to learn. Aye, fuckin spectacular example to set impressionable minds... and then you wonder why they are the way they are.

There have always been "boi racers" because adults still haven't clicked that they are teaching the behaviour that they despise so much. It's kind of poetic in ways.

Aye. Losers, there's always been losers because they never clicked that the world wasn't put there to teach them, they're supposed to learn anyway.

But, y'know, fuckem.

[mashman]

Aye. Losers, there's always been losers because they never clicked that the world wasn't put there to teach them, they're supposed to learn anyway.

But, y'know, fuckem.

Losers? I think Buzz said it best.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqsxsvFED11r2183po1_500.gif

[Akzle]

:corn:
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[Ocean1]

Losers?

Aye, losers. You continue to spout shit about how the world has to change to suit individuals. Never has, never will.

Individuals who want to join the rest of the world are usually successful, those who attempt to dictate terms will always be failures.

[mashman]

Aye, losers. You continue to spout shit about how the world has to change to suit individuals. Never has, never will.

Individuals who want to join the rest of the world are usually successful, those who attempt to dictate terms will always be failures.

:killingme... if the world hadn't have changed my carrier pigeon would be shitting all over your face around about now.

See the afore mentioned Buzzism in regards to failure... or indeed "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.". Yes, you suit the "ilk" label to a T.

It's called denial... which I thought would be better than calling you a stupid blind fuckwit.

[Akzle]

Aye, losers. You continue to spout shit about how the world has to change to suit individuals. Never has, never will.

Individuals who want to join the rest of the world are usually successful, those who attempt to dictate terms will always be failures.

the 'rest of the world'?


African or chinese?

[Berries]

African or chinese?
I'll have Chinese if you are offering.

[Ocean1]

:killingme... if the world hadn't have changed my carrier pigeon would be shitting all over your face around about now.

See the afore mentioned Buzzism in regards to failure... or indeed "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.". Yes, you suit the "ilk" label to a T.

It's called denial... which I thought would be better than calling you a stupid blind fuckwit.

My what an unsavoury wee oik you are, to be sure. Carrier pigeons were made redundant by one of the most prolific contributors to society, not some loser complaining about how the world has to change to suit him. There's a pattern, there, but you're simply too infatuated with your cargo cult message to see it.

I don't usually look to cartoons for wisdom. It's somewhat less than a revelation that you, in fact do.

As for change? There's always been losers wanting everyone else to buy their lunch, your serial bleating is just another example, one of the less intelligent ones. In fact if you can paint that observation as some form of denial then with apologies to all of the stupid, blind fuckwits out there you obviously qualify for life membership.

[swbarnett]

Carrier pigeons were made redundant by one of the most prolific contributors to society,
And what would that be?


not some loser complaining about how the world has to change to suit him.
ALL progress, without fail, is based on someone (no, not a loser) changing their environment to suit themselves. With these unreasonable individuals we would still be living in caves*.




*Actually, we would not have even made it in to the caves in the first place.

[Ocean1]

And what would that be?

Who. Alexander Graham Bell


ALL progress, without fail, is based on someone (no, not a loser) changing their environment to suit themselves.

Exactly what I said. Successful individuals produce what they need, which often has favourable results for the rest of society.

The losers in question expect other people to change to suit the loser. Difficult to overemphasise the extent of fail such a policy usually causes for all concerned.

[mashman]

My what an unsavoury wee oik you are, to be sure. Carrier pigeons were made redundant by one of the most prolific contributors to society, not some loser complaining about how the world has to change to suit him. There's a pattern, there, but you're simply too infatuated with your cargo cult message to see it.

I don't usually look to cartoons for wisdom. It's somewhat less than a revelation that you, in fact do.

As for change? There's always been losers wanting everyone else to buy their lunch, your serial bleating is just another example, one of the less intelligent ones. In fact if you can paint that observation as some form of denial then with apologies to all of the stupid, blind fuckwits out there you obviously qualify for life membership.

Thanks. Yet the only argument you have against the cargo cult message is that no-one wants it. An asinine assumption to say the least, yet held up with such verve that it makes a mockery of supposed intelligence, logic and reason. Fuckin hilarious that you archaic dipshits want to slam the brakes on progress because it doesn't suit your world view. The irony is positively gushing with unmitigated ignorance. Congratulations.

Yet you vote for the biggest clowns on the planet without question because they are, supposedly, the best we can produce. I'll take the cartoons everytime given your source of inspiration.

There have always been scared old men wanting to protect what they have at the expense of others. If Oscar's trip down memory lane, more commonly known as history, is anything to go by, it ain't gonna end well for people chum. I'd rather avoid the misery that your ilk forces upon the planets inhabitants with violence and coercion borne of an age that required sticks to be rubbed together in order to make fire.

[Ocean1]

Thanks. Yet the only argument you have against the cargo cult message is that no-one wants it.

That's just not true, dude. I freely admit there's plenty of losers that think shiny stuff just happens without anyone producing it, and they want their "share".

As for the rest... I'll just let Darwin deal with you, along with all the other failures.

In the meantime try not to spit foam everywhere. And keep the noise down, you're embarrassing all those stupid blind fuckwit mates of yours.

[mashman]

That's just not true, dude. I freely admit there's plenty of losers that think shiny stuff just happens without anyone producing it, and they want their "share".

Which has absolutely fuck all to do with it... but please, don't stop trying as it's moderately amusing.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Crushing cars to give someone the learn is nought more than a waste of resources. They should give the car to someone who would use it "wisely" at a bare minimum (auctioning for a cause being another option). Shows how mindless the fuckwits who generate such "laws", and I use the term very loosely, are. Mind you, it's all to appease the baying target audience of similar mind.

[swbarnett]

Who. Alexander Graham Bell
:doh: I misread that. I thought you said contribution, not contributor.



Exactly what I said. Successful individuals produce what they need, which often has favourable results for the rest of society.
Glad we agree. It didn't seem so.

I would add that they also change their environment. That sometimes includes the attitudes of others.


The losers in question expect other people to change to suit the loser. Difficult to overemphasise the extent of fail such a policy usually causes for all concerned.
Ah, you're talking about people that just expect others to change without putting in the effort of convincing them it's in their own best interests to do so. Lazy people who believe the world owes them a living.

Indeed this is a massive fail.

[Akzle]

the world owes them a living.



so youre borne to this world... But not for living?

[Ocean1]

so youre borne to this world... But not for living?

\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

[swbarnett]

so youre borne to this world...
Nah, I just flew in from Ursa Minor. Here to do a bit of research.

[Akzle]

\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/
so... you plan to help other people by being dead?

Nah, I just flew in from Ursa Minor. Here to do a bit of research.
ayye. well, good luck, let us know how it goes.

[swbarnett]

ayye. well, good luck, let us know how it goes.
No intrelligent life found so far...

[Akzle]

No intrelligent life found so far...

you came looking for it on KB?
that speaks to your own intelligence, y'know...

[ducatilover]

And all you menopausial retreads missed the fact that the Gandmaracer's cage is a gutless 4WD shopping trolley that can't do a donut in the first place and not a red coupe :facepalm:

Or we could continue talking about why we hate each other?

:facepalm::facepalm:

[bogan]

Mind you there is someone I do not like. Maybe a call to the police stating they are doing burnouts would be a good move .........

Man up and just piss on their door handles like the rest of us...