Comfortable protective pants?

[got no boat]

I need to get some bike pants as I have always just used my jeans.

I like the look of the dragon jeans style but have tried them and also the newer bullit Jeans but they feel pretty uncomfortable.
I have tried the Revit jeans that come with the slip in knee protectors which felt very comfortable(they actually just felt like dress jeans) but I tried to ask the shop assistant if they were any good for protection but she didn't really know anything about it.

I have also tried some Ixon Textile Pants which felt pretty comfy too.

Has anyone got any recommendations on comfortable yet protective pants to wear?

[Hitcher]

Something from this range should meet your needs for comfort and protection http://bit.ly/1f7f9d9

[GTRMAN]

Something from this range should meet your needs for comfort and protection http://bit.ly/1f7f9d9


Cheeky Monkey:)

[SMOKEU]

Jeans will not give you anywhere near the protection of proper synthetic or leather riding pants. Kevlar jeans (or jeans with similar synthetic fibres) offer almost no impact resistance, so when you hit the ground, you hit it hard. They do offer a questionable amount of abrasion protection as well.

Synthetic riding pants can be very hot in summer. I've had 2 pairs, both of which are like ski pants. I haven't owned or worn leather pants so I can't comment on those.

It's your ass on the line. I know what I'd rather crash in.

[Mushu]

I have kevlar jeans made by Teknics and Shift I found that once they've been worn and washed a few times they are quite comfortable and by the time you get used to the fact they're quite a bit heavier than normal jeans you don't even notice the difference. They are good for using the bike to go places cos I don't have to deal with a tonne of gear when I get there (I also have a light leather jacket that serves the same purpose) As far as protection goes they're nowhere near as good as textile or leather and have no impact protection, also if kevlar gets wet it's almost useless.

[Pound]

I just purchased a pair of the Black bird Resurgence jeans.
Have to say, definitely the most comfortable jeans I have ever worn, plus they come with CE rated knee pads and hip foam padding (Bit too thin if you ask me)
Not too bad price wise either ($229)
The agent is here in Hamilton and doesn't mind if you try them on before you buy too.

Take a look http://resurgencegear.co.nz/shop-now

Supposedly incredibly resistant to abrasion, which was a big factor for me, as well as something that I could wear for when I get off the bike too.

[Wingnut]

If you can still get them... Shift Havoc (Hybrid Leather/Textile Pant)

[SMOKEU]

also if kevlar gets wet it's almost useless.

Fuck, I didn't know that. "When Kevlar vests become waterlogged, the fibers can slip against each other, which compromises the integrity of the bullet-stopping mesh."

[rebyl]

Lots of choices out there. I only use Diamond Gussett jeans from the States. You order for your waist size and your leg length, have ladies styles and average to very large sizes for men, up to 50" waists for the big boys.
I buy their Defender Jeans which are the same as Draggin Jeans but less expensive are made in the US, not bloody Asia and have the very comfortable Gussett that men will very much appreciate when riding check em out
http://www.americangusset.com/defender-defender-motorcycle-jean-blue/dp/2070

[leathel]

I have a couple of brands of kevlar jeans, after getting wet some brands loose there strength and are not much better than thick jeans.... Some have lots of extra lining so are better but on long rides they breath and you end up over heating, I do use them on some short rides

I also have leather jeans, pretty thick leather so will be better than the kevlar jeans and pretty much the same price
http://www.1tonne.co.nz/index.php?page=listingDetails&categoryid=3&collectionid=&prodid=11&pageNum=1&x=32&y=25

Well those are no the same as mine I have the jeans version, that have padded areas by the looks.

I have these

http://www.1tonne.co.nz/index.php?page=listingDetails&categoryid=3&collectionid=&prodid=70&pageNum=1&x=24&y=20

They dont really look like the picture more like std Jeans as the pockets dont show well in the pic

They are silk (or silk like) lined but have do not armor like the ones above

Not as light as codura etc But I wear these more than the textile/ kevlar pants and they have kept me dry

[FJRider]

Whatever you are wearing when you hit the tarmac ... (or anything else) ... it is going to hurt.

Get (and use) the best you can afford. You cannot afford not to ...

[rebyl]

Whatever you are wearing when you hit the tarmac ... (or anything else) ... it is going to hurt.

Get (and use) the best you can afford. You cannot afford not to ...



Yep :shit: Although I saw the woman who pulled out in front of me in Utah for about 2 seconds before I hit her I never felt a thing...but only woke up about 40 minutes later...Best advise is...always avoid crashes....LOL

[ital916]

I need to get some bike pants as I have always just used my jeans.

I like the look of the dragon jeans style but have tried them and also the newer bullit Jeans but they feel pretty uncomfortable.
I have tried the Revit jeans that come with the slip in knee protectors which felt very comfortable(they actually just felt like dress jeans) but I tried to ask the shop assistant if they were any good for protection but she didn't really know anything about it.

I have also tried some Ixon Textile Pants which felt pretty comfy too.

Has anyone got any recommendations on comfortable yet protective pants to wear?

The rev'it jeans, IMO opinion are the best. The lombard model uses a 12.5 ounce cordura denim outer with a woven aramid (general fibre name, same as Kevlar) inner liner (the PWR shield, unlike the vendome, which has the PWR yarn), providing a dual layer protection action. Also in addition to having the CE2 Knox knee protectors, also have pockets for hip protectors. Riding jean technology has come to the point where textile pants and riding jeans are on par. Of course textile pants have liners, waterproofing etc. Come and see me in store, and I can give you a further run down of the jeans and my personal experiences with them (having unfortunately crash tested a couple :facepalm:) and am happy to really take you through them in depth. I'm at College hill.

Dee

[rebyl]

I need to get some bike pants as I have always just used my jeans.

I like the look of the dragon jeans style but have tried them and also the newer bullit Jeans but they feel pretty uncomfortable.
I have tried the Revit jeans that come with the slip in knee protectors which felt very comfortable(they actually just felt like dress jeans) but I tried to ask the shop assistant if they were any good for protection but she didn't really know anything about it.

I have also tried some Ixon Textile Pants which felt pretty comfy too.

Has anyone got any recommendations on comfortable yet protective pants to wear?

Seriously look at my post for the Diamond Gusset Jeans. I have been riding for close to 40 years and yes you do get wiser with age and you find that quality always comes to the fore. I'm to old to put up with crap...yes there may be other good jeans etc out there but if you are after comfortable riding jeans look for the one with the Gusset in the Crutch...as in where your balls sit!!!, very nice.
If you want to pay top dollar and get great fitting leather pants then call Mike at Jet Leathers in Hastings, my wife and I both ride in his gear and my Jacket is 2o years old and is still in great shape

[nzspokes]

I have Revit mesh pants for commuting, have some cheap leather pants for spirited rides. Bought new revit leather pants today.

Dress for the slide not for the ride.

[ital916]

I have Revit mesh pants for commuting, have some cheap leather pants for spirited rides. Bought new revit leather pants today.

Dress for the slide not for the ride.

Why, if that was you in Motomail today with your partner, looking at the back protectors, was a pleasure to meet you and your other half and to be able to find you some leather pants that fit the bill! If not, then disregard this message :lol:

[nzspokes]

Why, if that was you in Motomail today with your partner, looking at the back protectors, was a pleasure to meet you and your other half and to be able to find you some leather pants that fit the bill! If not, then disregard this message :lol:

It was and we will be back for the back protector. :niceone:

[yevjenko]

Seriously look at my post for the Diamond Gusset Jeans. I have been riding for close to 40 years

May be a silly question, but have you crashed in then?

sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)

[rebyl]

[QUOTE=yevjenko;1130706502]May be a silly question, but have you crashed in then?

Yep, 2012 in Utah, pants stood up just fine no road rash on legs or bum, but did have 47 stitches in head, 5 broken bones in left shoulder and two snapped tendons in left shoulder. Her fault when she pulled across road in a National Park without looking :eek5:

[yevjenko]

Ouch! Hope you've healed ok after that

sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)

[rebyl]

[QUOTE=yevjenko;1130706830]Ouch! Hope you've healed ok after that

Yep, mostly OK, shoulder will never be 100 per cent but maybe the pay-out from the Litigation will ease the pain....LOL. head wound left a scar but then again I was never a beauty queen.....I often get people saying crap like...man I bet you don't ride those things anymore....Why ?, shit sometimes happens and you still cannot beat the feel of a good days ride.
Cheers

[tigertim20]

[QUOTE=yevjenko;1130706502]May be a silly question, but have you crashed in then?

my fault for not being aware of other traffic and their possible intentions - when she pulled across road in a National Park without looking :eek5:

fixed for ya, :shutup::innocent:

[GrayWolf]

I have several pairs of different pants, I ride year round so have summer/winter gear.

Kevlar lined jeans.. IMO Draggin are overpriced, leave them to the 'Hardly riders' who only want the 'named brand'.

I tend to sweat easily in Cordura, so try to avoid wearing it in summer.

CNell, I have to say their ones are pretty good, thick denim, good coverage of Kevlar, knee/hip armour, if anything the hip armour is too small in size.
Rhino pants, are fairly good, they do Cargo pants and jeans, better hip armour than the CNell.
Bruce McGurk jeans and cargo pants I have to say the material thickness is of a very good quality.
There are a few versions that have no padding or armour I wont buy them.

Cordura or ballistic nylon, usually has better armour on knees but often no hip armour, so in some ways the jeans have advantage?? Many Cordura pants are made of 600D material, the higher quality ones are 8/900D or greater.. (finer weave/thread count) better quality material just like bedsheets!
The higher quality cordura is going to perform better in a slide for friction wear than the kevlar jeans denim outer layer, and will likely outlast the kevlar lining which is generally 'thinnish'.

Leather is the proven best friction resistant material period.. but cheap leather is just that CHEAP!! Often not full grained or aniline, may be 'belly leather' etc. Also thickness has to be considered, most high quality leather pants jackets are 2mm thick, most 'budget price' are 1.2-1.4mm thick. A good leather pant with decent stitching as opposed to the often single stitch or exposed stitching of cheaper items, along with armour protection is going to be the best overall. I find leather less sweaty than Cordura, but more so than the kevlar lined jeans.

Its been said already, buy the BEST you can afford!

[Erelyes]

Also thickness has to be considered, most high quality leather pants jackets are 2mm thick, most 'budget price' are 1.2-1.4mm thick.

I have never seen a 2mm thick leather jacket or pant for sale anywhere.

I do see jackets/pants that are 1.2-1.4 thick, but double layer in key areas.

Oh and 'budget price' 1.2-1.4mm thick - really? (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-race-replica-suit)

[GrayWolf]

I have never seen a 2mm thick leather jacket or pant for sale anywhere.

I do see jackets/pants that are 1.2-1.4 thick, but double layer in key areas.

Oh and 'budget price' 1.2-1.4mm thick - really? (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-race-replica-suit)

then you need to open Ya eyes.... REALLY

0.5mm - 0.8mm = lightweight leather (shirts)
0.9mm - 1.1mm = midweight leather (trousers - jackets)
1.2mm - 1.6mm = heavyweight leather (Jackets)
1.7mm - 2.0mm = super heavyweight leather (chaps - jackets)


http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/62533/motorcycles/leather_motorcycle_jacket_weight___what_does_it_me an.html



0.5 – 0.8mm = Lightweight 0.9 – 1.1mm = Middleweight 1.2 – 1.6mm = Heavyweight 1.7 – 2.0mm = Super Heavyweight

http://www.allstateridernews.com/garage/leather-vs-textile-part-one

I posted info on this months ago in another thread, I cant be arsed doing the research for YOUR lazy arse!!!

[Erelyes]

I posted info on this months ago in another thread, I cant be arsed doing the research for YOUR lazy arse!!!

I post a link showing a $2500USD suit which is 99% the same as what MotoGP riders use (airbag excepted) which uses 1.2-1.4.

You post two opinion pieces both of which prove nothing.

Here (http://www.qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop.php#!/~/product/category=8442300&id=32769868) is a Qmoto suit, guess what? 1.4mm, with dual layers in key areas.

Don't get shitty just cos you got called out. If you're gonna spout shit, the onus on you is to back it up. :baby:

People asking for advice about gear have enough to confuse em without being led on a wild goose chase.

[rebyl]

I find all the views here interesting and we all often have different ones, not wrong, just different. I have now 40 years of riding and started way back just wearing whatever kept you warm, this often meant in the Winter wearing an Army Great Coat backwards with newspaper stuffed down the front to keep you warm.
So the choice today is friggin amazing. I still prefer leather but do have some textile gear but find they still don't feel as comfortable.
I get my gear from Jet Leathers in Hastings, I support him because he is a Kiwi making good gear for Kiwi's, he is not interested in flashy shit, just good leather gear.
Thanks Greywolf for the link to the All State site, looks like a good read there

[GrayWolf]

Don't get shitty just cos you got called out. If you're gonna spout shit, the onus on you is to back it up. :baby:

People asking for advice about gear have enough to confuse em without being led on a wild goose chase.

Waahhh wahhh, as I said I cannot be bothered looking up any further, the 'opinion' as you put it is off sites that sell leather gear. Oh and FYI, a jacket I recently sold purely because it isnt useable (large brass buckle on the front) on anything other than a cruiser was 3mm thick leather. But then that was purchased in the UK over 20 yrs ago....

Yes the TA asked opinions, and mine is as valid as yours, like Rebyl, I am a 40yr rider and started when gear was minimal, in the UK, Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter for 9yrs, before learning to drive a car. So I can assure you, I quickly sorted out decent from shyte gear!
Most modern gear is way from 'ideal'. At high speed (1000kph) Velcro, popper fasteners etc are highly suspect for staying closed, the old belt loops, belt buckle fastening on trousers, or bib n brace pants etc are far safer to wear, but not 'fashionable'.. All of my pants are taken to a repair shop and have a belt style fastener added to the front to make sure they dont come open in the event.....
Few jackets today have a Double zip (double breasted), let alone an angled zip with extra leather/cordura underneath it.

Oh and as for your 'double layer in some areas?? Guess what? That makes those areas at the least 2.4mm thick.... Havent seen a 2mm thick jacket huh??
I was working on the assumption that the TA would 'get it' if comparing a straight 1'4mm jacket to one with 'double thickness' in high abrasion areas. But then, you didnt :wait:

There was one young man who may still be on here, who around 3 yrs ago on a Wednesday ride, came off his Hyosung250 on the coast road (slid side/belly to the road), he was wearing a one piece, which indeed saved him a lot of 'gravel rash'.... However 2 things, 1) the leather DID wear through in one spot, and 2) the zip DID part at chest height.

So if my 'opinion' is confusing? Then I accept your limited view, mine is purely driven by a strong need to survive with as minimal damage as possible, in the event of.

[GrayWolf]

I find all the views here interesting and we all often have different ones, not wrong, just different. I have now 40 years of riding and started way back just wearing whatever kept you warm, this often meant in the Winter wearing an Army Great Coat backwards with newspaper stuffed down the front to keep you warm.
So the choice today is friggin amazing. I still prefer leather but do have some textile gear but find they still don't feel as comfortable.
I get my gear from Jet Leathers in Hastings, I support him because he is a Kiwi making good gear for Kiwi's, he is not interested in flashy shit, just good leather gear.
Thanks Greywolf for the link to the All State site, looks like a good read there

Did you HAVE to remind me of the 'ARMY GREATCOAT' days....... you BASTARD!!!! :bleh::bleh::bleh:

[rebyl]

Did you HAVE to remind me of the 'ARMY GREATCOAT' days....... you BASTARD!!!! :bleh::bleh::bleh:

They were great days...I think...LOL. Long Live, Triumph, BSA, Matchless and memories.
Amazing how the young ones now think they have invented riding and rooting.......remember the old no root no ride law....:rolleyes:

[GrayWolf]

They were great days...I think...LOL. Long Live, Triumph, BSA, Matchless and memories.
Amazing how the young ones now think they have invented riding and rooting.......remember the old no root no ride law....:rolleyes:

Oooops I'm not quite THAT 'bad', never owned a Bastard Stops Anywhere, had several 250 and under jappers. Britbike sojourn's were a James Captain 200, and 2x Bonnies (pre unit) Then sadly?? Went to an H1a 500.....:eek:

Yes they DID invent riding and rooting, didnt you know this?
Maybe we should start to rot on about TT100 tyres, Avon Speedmasters, Gauntlets, Paratrooper boots, Yellow PVC leggings and Workmans (Donkey) jackets??? Oh and of course the 'studs' that allowed you to 'slide' down the road....:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Zapf]

I need to get some bike pants as I have always just used my jeans.

Has anyone got any recommendations on comfortable yet protective pants to wear?

I spend 3 months touring in a pair of these. Comfortable and I also felt secure. Good flexible knee and hip armor with coverage. Haven't crash tested. But I highly recommend.

[yevjenko]

I spend 3 months touring in a pair of these. Comfortable and I also felt secure. Good flexible knee and hip armor with coverage. Haven't crash tested. But I highly recommend.

3 months in what? no mention of which product in your post

[pritch]

I post a link showing a $2500USD suit which is 99% the same as what MotoGP riders use (airbag excepted) which uses 1.2-1.4.



I watched that clip and the salesman is certainly slick but possibly less than totally truthful. He says that the suits are the same as used by GP riders and he does say that several times. I don't think so Tim.

The suits worn by the GP riders are made of kangaroo skin not cowhide. Kangaroo skin is thinner and lighter but offers the same strength as cowhide. I listened several times and am pretty sure that he says that suit is "off the cow". That's a major difference and it renders any comparison re thickness irrelevant.

I don't know what a kangaroo suit would cost but I have come across it in gloves, and have a couple of pairs. Some manufacturers put kangaroo skin in the palm because it gives the same protection as cowhide but provides better feel. You probably won't find kangaroo in the bargain bin though, I saw a pair of Spidi gloves that were kangaroo front and back, they had a $400.00 price tag.

[haydes55]

I watched that clip and the salesman is certainly slick but possibly less than totally truthful. He says that the suits are the same as used by GP riders and he does say that several times. I don't think so Tim.



The suits worn by the GP riders are made of kangaroo skin not cowhide. Kangaroo skin is thinner and lighter but offers the same strength as cowhide. I listened several times and am pretty sure that he says that suit is "off the cow". That's a major difference and it renders any comparison re thickness irrelevant.



I don't know what a kangaroo suit would cost but I have come across it in gloves, and have a couple of pairs. Some manufacturers put kangaroo skin in the palm because it gives the same protection as cowhide but provides better feel. You probably won't find kangaroo in the bargain bin though, I saw a pair of Spidi gloves that were kangaroo front and back, they had a $400.00 price tag.


My berik leathers are kangaroo leather. Cost me $999 at half price in boyds big sale last year. Quality kangaroo leather doesn't have to be expensive