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SMOKEU
19th January 2014, 15:28
I've scored a job painting a large outdoor deck. I estimate it to be at least 30mē. Some of the old paint has peeled off, but I'll leave the "good" paint on. Should I just waterblast the deck, then put undercoat on the bare patches and start painting, or do I need to lightly sand the whole deck as well? I need to leave a good finish, but I don't want to fuck around and spend more time than I need to. Should I use a large roller, with a brush down in the gaps between the planks or just a large brush?

Waihou Thumper
19th January 2014, 15:30
Get good advice and paint it right! :) Awaiting replies.....I am sure "they'll see you right"....:)

EJK
19th January 2014, 16:18
Take your time. Quality matters for your future references.

Most people I've done work for didn't mind paying extra for the quality. In fact some people happily paid me more than I asked for for the "quality" of the job.

I am no painter by trade but if I were you I'd be honest and sand the whole deck then charge him extra.

FJRider
19th January 2014, 16:22
Is it a painted deck ... or a stained deck ... ??

ellipsis
19th January 2014, 16:26
...water blast the shit off...wait until its dry...slap the paint on...go for a ride...

SMOKEU
19th January 2014, 16:38
Is it a painted deck ... or a stained deck ... ??

Paint, not stain. They want the deck painted again as the paint is worn and some of the boards are rotten, which they're going to get someone else to replace before I come in to paint.

ellipsis
19th January 2014, 16:42
and some of the boards are rotten,

...water blast the fuck out of them too...sounds like fun...

BigAl
19th January 2014, 17:56
Most timber paint is designed to go straight on bare wood so no under coating, as others said good waterblast & then a couple of coats, then drink lots of beer:msn-wink:

fridayflash
19th January 2014, 18:15
yeah man, a good waterblast (not so close that you fluff up the bare wood), when it drys a bit of a scrape of any flake (itll often curl at the ends after tha water has dried) then whack two coats on with a brush, 30sqm might take an hour per coat with a brush but worth it. id recomend dulux timbercryll or taubmans timberproof, trust me theyre both bombproof, self priming and specified ok for foot traffic (as in durable like an enamel, but not slippery)
fuck that resene shit, no warrantys, ultra high retail focussed price and lightest tin/bucket of paint on the market (least amount of actual solids in it)
for what its worth, id wash it in the evening, give it the first coat the next morning, then repaint it the following morning to avoid the hot sun:niceone:

vifferman
19th January 2014, 18:31
Don't listen to all those retards. Get yourself a big bucket of paint, stick it in the middle of the deck, and drop a fish bomb in it. Job done.:msn-wink:

unstuck
19th January 2014, 18:43
Spray cans from the wharewhare, fuck em, if their too fuckin lazy to paint their own deck, rip the cunts off.:Punk::Punk:

jellywrestler
19th January 2014, 19:09
they paying you for a quality job and you don't know shit about doing it???? sounds dodgy to me

SMOKEU
19th January 2014, 19:41
they paying you for a quality job and you don't know shit about doing it???? sounds dodgy to me

I work as a house painter, but I don't usually do decks.


go to your local bank and acquire a few jews, slit their throats and paint the deck with the blood of the heathens to serve as a reminder for all ages. Put the severed heads on pikes at the gate.

Hahahahahahahahaha! That would be fucking epic.


yeah man, a good waterblast (not so close that you fluff up the bare wood), when it drys a bit of a scrape of any flake (itll often curl at the ends after tha water has dried) then whack two coats on with a brush, 30sqm might take an hour per coat with a brush but worth it. id recomend dulux timbercryll or taubmans timberproof, trust me theyre both bombproof, self priming and specified ok for foot traffic (as in durable like an enamel, but not slippery)
fuck that resene shit, no warrantys, ultra high retail focussed price and lightest tin/bucket of paint on the market (least amount of actual solids in it)
for what its worth, id wash it in the evening, give it the first coat the next morning, then repaint it the following morning to avoid the hot sun:niceone:

Cheers.

neels
19th January 2014, 19:56
Waterblast the snot out of it, sand the edges of the good paint that's still stuck and chuck some decent outdoor primer/undercoat on the bare bits, then a couple of coats of colour over the whole thing.

You'll get a better finish if you brush the gaps and then do the rest with a roller, but would probably end up taking longer than just doing the whole lot with a brush.

And slap them for painting the deck instead of staining it in the first place.

p.dath
20th January 2014, 07:09
I've scored a job painting a large outdoor deck...

If in doubt, I would go into the store for whatever brand of paint it is, and ask them. They should know the requirements for applying their own paint.

James Deuce
20th January 2014, 07:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaUx9RlQW3I

The bit at 1:01 is how I traditionally paint a deck.

The Reibz
20th January 2014, 07:44
My Mrs is a Trade rep for Resene. Can ask her for you If you want.
I wouldn't water blast it, you will water log the wood which can take weeks to dry out properly and the paint will fail to stick and will mostlikely bubble after the first heat wave. Only time I have ever seen a water blaster used to remove paint is off the hulls of ships.

HenryDorsetCase
20th January 2014, 08:47
Spray cans from the wharewhare, fuck em, if their too fuckin lazy to paint their own deck, rip the cunts off.:Punk::Punk:

It would take forever! whereas a big old bucket of paint with a four or six inch brush you'd be done in no time

HenryDorsetCase
20th January 2014, 08:52
My Mrs is a Trade rep for Resene. Can ask her for you If you want.
I wouldn't water blast it, you will water log the wood which can take weeks to dry out properly and the paint will fail to stick and will mostlikely bubble after the first heat wave. Only time I have ever seen a water blaster used to remove paint is off the hulls of ships.

The FUCKWITS that painted my house (the PROFESSIONALS who I PAID to do it) waterblasted the house then two days later masked and spraypainted using the Resene Hibuild paint they use to paint chillibin houses. Can't remember the name.

About six months later I noticed that while the paint film is fine, nice and thick, it had started to bubble, particularly on the south side of the house (concrete block). It looks like zits. Got the Resene rep round "no issue with our paint man" Got the painter back "Nah mate, not our problem the paint's fine" FUCKERS. I am fairly sure it is residual water leaching out of the porous concrete block.

I am waiting for summer to start then I am going to attack it with a wire brush on a drill, then use the sealer shit they sell, then repaint the motherfucker myself. FUCKERS. And dont get me started about the half arsed job they did on the fucking roof. FUCK

Not that I'm angry at all.

The Reibz
20th January 2014, 10:08
The FUCKWITS that painted my house (the PROFESSIONALS who I PAID to do it) waterblasted the house then two days later masked and spraypainted using the Resene Hibuild paint they use to paint chillibin houses. Can't remember the name.

About six months later I noticed that while the paint film is fine, nice and thick, it had started to bubble, particularly on the south side of the house (concrete block). It looks like zits. Got the Resene rep round "no issue with our paint man" Got the painter back "Nah mate, not our problem the paint's fine" FUCKERS. I am fairly sure it is residual water leaching out of the porous concrete block.

I am waiting for summer to start then I am going to attack it with a wire brush on a drill, then use the sealer shit they sell, then repaint the motherfucker myself. FUCKERS. And dont get me started about the half arsed job they did on the fucking roof. FUCK

Not that I'm angry at all.

Calm yourself Chap,

Yeah my mrs gets alot of complaints from idiots on the shore which go and spend thousands on paint (its expensive for a reason) thinking they can just brush it right over the top of the old stuff without any issues. After a matter of weeks its flaking off. NO REFUNDZ G, YOU FUCKED UP, is generally the response they get.

I got a little state house which has seen its fair share of bad paintjobs. Just can't be bothered doing it myself, the same painters come in every 5 years to fix up there mistakes....

HenryDorsetCase
20th January 2014, 10:20
Calm yourself Chap,

Yeah my mrs gets alot of complaints from idiots on the shore which go and spend thousands on paint (its expensive for a reason) thinking they can just brush it right over the top of the old stuff without any issues. After a matter of weeks its flaking off. NO REFUNDZ G, YOU FUCKED UP, is generally the response they get.

I got a little state house which has seen its fair share of bad paintjobs. Just can't be bothered doing it myself, the same painters come in every 5 years to fix up there mistakes....

Every time I think about it I get angry. If I did a job as half arsed as these cocks I would be getting sued left right and centre. GRRRRR.

jellywrestler
20th January 2014, 10:38
I work as a house painter, but I don't usually do decks.






Cheers. so why wouldn't you ask your suppliers for their thoughts?

kevfromcoro
20th January 2014, 10:39
did my deck,, water blasted it... went round and did all the cracks with a brush.. then painted the deck with a broom. saves bending ova

fridayflash
20th January 2014, 14:12
soft broom is def a good option, even better if its a stain job. 20 years ago i used to roofs with a soft corrugated broom...until i could buy an airless
broom did quite a fine finish, and three times faster and tidyer that roof roller

jasonu
20th January 2014, 15:05
If in doubt, I would go into the store for whatever brand of paint it is, and ask them. They should know the requirements for applying their own paint.

Yeah you could ask the 17yr old store clerk with the ring in his lip and those stupid big ear lobe stretchers hanging from the side of his head for advice...

Icemaestro
20th January 2014, 16:01
Every time I think about it I get angry. If I did a job as half arsed as these cocks I would be getting sued left right and centre. GRRRRR.

Far out I'd be making someone pay/sort that out! That is ridiculous. The painter did the job so he needs to fix it up, if it's a problem with the paint, he needs to sort it out. Regardless, if its peeling, it clearly isn't fine and therefore should be fixed! I made the painter who did our bathroom come back and re-do the ceiling when it started peeling 6 months later - I think he hadn't let it dry enough (or maybe poor prep) before he did the sealer coat as the whole lot was cracking off in various bits.

SMOKEU
20th January 2014, 16:26
The relatives of the home owner did some of the first coat over the weekend. I'm questioning how well it was done as it seems like they didn't take their time to do it properly, but if the paint on that area peels off then I know who to blame. They neglected to even cut some of the plants growing directly over parts of the deck, and now the plants and deck are the same colour. :no:


If in doubt, I would go into the store for whatever brand of paint it is, and ask them. They should know the requirements for applying their own paint.

The home owner provided the paint. I'll ask where she got it.


so why wouldn't you ask your suppliers for their thoughts?

I'll go find out who the supplier is.


My Mrs is a Trade rep for Resene. Can ask her for you If you want.
I wouldn't water blast it, you will water log the wood which can take weeks to dry out properly and the paint will fail to stick and will mostlikely bubble after the first heat wave. Only time I have ever seen a water blaster used to remove paint is off the hulls of ships.

That's a good point actually.


soft broom is def a good option, even better if its a stain job. 20 years ago i used to roofs with a soft corrugated broom...until i could buy an airless
broom did quite a fine finish, and three times faster and tidyer that roof roller

A broom would be good.

Erelyes
21st January 2014, 18:51
The FUCKWITS that painted my house (the PROFESSIONALS who I PAID to do it) waterblasted the house then two days later masked and spraypainted using the Resene Hibuild paint they use to paint chillibin houses. Can't remember the name.

About six months later I noticed that while the paint film is fine, nice and thick, it had started to bubble, particularly on the south side of the house (concrete block). It looks like zits. Got the Resene rep round "no issue with our paint man" Got the painter back "Nah mate, not our problem the paint's fine" FUCKERS. I am fairly sure it is residual water leaching out of the porous concrete block.

I am waiting for summer to start then I am going to attack it with a wire brush on a drill, then use the sealer shit they sell, then repaint the motherfucker myself. FUCKERS. And dont get me started about the half arsed job they did on the fucking roof. FUCK

Not that I'm angry at all.

Mate.

If they supplied the paint then it's a simple case of - either the paint's fucked, or the application was fucked. if they refuse to fix it..

If they are master painters, then they offer a 5 year guarantee so go to MP.
Otherwise, disputes tribunal.

Swoop
22nd January 2014, 14:25
Painting. So simple anyone can do it.

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That is why you pay proper trained professionals.
preparation takes the majority of the time. Applying paint is the MINORITY of the time.:facepalm: