Good tech

[mashman]

Graphene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFacA6OwCjA)...

[Grizzo]

Brilliant science.

Smaller and smaller and smaller it goes.....

[mashman]

Brilliant science.

Smaller and smaller and smaller it goes.....

Tis... just a shame it'll be "wasted" (for the most part). Be an interesting way to heat a house when coupled with them rear windscreen strips.

[bogan]

Be interesting if they manage to crack the production problem, which is probably just a matter of time.


Tis... just a shame it'll be "wasted" (for the most part). Be an interesting way to heat a house when coupled with them rear windscreen strips.

:laugh: I hope that irony was deliberate...

[Grizzo]

Tis... just a shame it'll be "wasted" (for the most part). Be an interesting way to heat a house when coupled with them rear windscreen strips.

This is true.

This technology will be wasted on making people less empathic and slaves too the screen. As I type at my computer screen:facepalm:

[mashman]

Be interesting if they manage to crack the production problem, which is probably just a matter of time.

:laugh: I hope that irony was deliberate...

A matter of time I guess.

Badly phrased... I meant more options for heating a house. Wonder if you could build an entire house out of the stuff.


This is true.

This technology will be wasted on making people less empathic and slaves too the screen. As I type at my computer screen:facepalm:

Upgrade upgrade upgrade.

[Ocean1]

Tis... just a shame it'll be "wasted" (for the most part). Be an interesting way to heat a house when coupled with them rear windscreen strips.

... If spectacularly inefficient.

But yeah, why waste it using it where it provides the most benefit?

[mashman]

... If spectacularly inefficient.

But yeah, why waste it using it where it provides the most benefit?

So suggest an alternative. Or is that not your bag?

[Ocean1]

So suggest an alternative. Or is that not your bag?

To heat a house? I can do that with no power whatsoever.

Using a fancy wire to deliver power to an element, (car defrosters are screen printed silver) embedded into windows makes zero difference to the power required to produce the heat, and it chucks most of it straight outside.

[mashman]

To heat a house? I can do that with no power whatsoever.

Using a fancy wire to deliver power to an element, (car defrosters are screen printed silver) embedded into windows makes zero difference to the power required to produce the heat, and it chucks most of it straight outside.

How?

Who said anything about embedding those elements into windows?

[Ocean1]

How?

Insulate it.


Who said anything about embedding those elements into windows?

You did.

[bogan]

So suggest an alternative. Or is that not your bag?

An alternative is to use it for circuitry and other advanced stuff. Using it in heaters is a spectacularly stupid idea, given that the job of a heater is to turn energy to heat through resistive losses, so minimising the losses on the wire to it is a waste of tech.

[mashman]

Insulate it.

You did.

WOW... keeps a house heated all night. I'm susprised more people don't use the stuff. The govt should set up grants.

No I didn't.

[mashman]

An alternative is to use it for circuitry and other advanced stuff. Using it in heaters is a spectacularly stupid idea, given that the job of a heater is to turn energy to heat through resistive losses, so minimising the losses on the wire to it is a waste of tech.

Not in heaters, to conduct electickery for heaters... but you covered that.

[Ocean1]

WOW... keeps a house heated all night. I'm susprised more people don't use the stuff. The govt should set up grants.

It does.

And I'm pickin' the sun appearing every morning surprises you.

And they did, of course. It doubled the cost to the end user overnight. Most subsidies have that effect.

[bogan]

Not in heaters, to conduct electickery for heaters... but you covered that.

I also covered why that was a stupid idea... but you seem to have missed that.

[mashman]

It does.

And I'm pickin' the sun appearing every morning surprises you.

And they did, of course. It doubled the cost to the end user overnight. Most subsidies have that effect.

My house begs to differ as it is colder in the mornings.

Nope, I go to bed and pretty much expect it's going to be there when I wake, or not long after.

But worth it though eh? Wonder when they'll do that with windows.

[mashman]

I also covered why that was a stupid idea... but you seem to have missed that.

It wasn't applicable as I wasn't wanting to use it in heaters.

[bogan]

It wasn't applicable as I wasn't wanting to use it in heaters.

Power transmission to heaters then. Couldn't have that cord getting a little warm in that room you're trying to heat, right :rolleyes: :facepalm:

[mashman]

Power transmission to heaters then. Couldn't have that cord getting a little warm in that room you're trying to heat, right :rolleyes: :facepalm:

:rofl:... was thinking more along the lines of less conduit and hiding of shit n shit. Although your story's are better.

[Ocean1]

My house begs to differ as it is colder in the mornings.

Then you obviously need more of it. You environmental menace you.


Nope, I go to bed and pretty much expect it's going to be there when I wake, or not long after.

Splendid. Try to limit your comments to that and you should be good.


But worth it though eh? Wonder when they'll do that with windows.

Why would a govt subsidy that doubled the cost to the householder make it worthwhile for those that didn't consider it had sufficient value when they had to pay for it themselves?

And what they did with windows was to legislate for compulsory double glazing in new builds, whereas very few people had previously considered it worthwhile. Why would you do that? Make people spend money they don't want to in an environment where they already consider housing too expensive? Eh?

[mashman]

Then you obviously need more of it. You environmental menace you.

Splendid. Try to limit your comments to that and you should be good.

Why would a govt subsidy that doubled the cost to the householder make it worthwhile for those that didn't consider it had sufficient value when they had to pay for it themselves?

And what they did with windows was to legislate for compulsory double glazing in new builds, whereas very few people had previously considered it worthwhile. Why would you do that? Make people spend money they don't want to in an environment where they already consider housing too expensive? Eh?

I shall have them remove the hills to maximise my sunshine.

Yessum bawss.

Oh, you thought that was a real question.

You would do that to help prevent condensation... although that depends on the construction of the window frame.

[Ocean1]

Oh, you thought that was a real question.

It had a real question mark.


You would do that to help prevent condensation... although that depends on the construction of the window frame.

Actually you'd do that for thermal insulation, which usually makes condensation worse.

And ideally when it comes to someone else's money you mind your own god damned business.

[mashman]

It had a real question mark.

Actually you'd do that for thermal insulation, which usually makes condensation worse.

And ideally when it comes to someone else's money you mind your own god damned business.

I can see your confusion.

Usually? there a several million houses around the globe with double glazing that would offer a different view.

Out of sight out of mind eh. I can see why that would appeal.

[Milts]

It gets cooler - you can use a laser to write it on a DVD to produce a capacitor...

http://io9.com/5987086/meet-the-scientific-accident-that-could-change-the-world

[avgas]

I don't know how old that article is - but they are making graphene now. Using sticky stuff and pealing way one layer of it at a time. I think that is whats in that new LG phone.

[Ocean1]

I don't know how old that article is - but they are making graphene now. Using sticky stuff and pealing way one layer of it at a time. I think that is whats in that new LG phone.

Aye, I made some experimental equipment for a NZ based manufacturer several years ago. Very handy stuff.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I have read online of using Graphene to make electrostatic speakers for use in headphones : current ones are bulky, uber expensive and require all sorts of special power supplies and whatnot. I cant find the link...

http://www.lbl.gov/tt/publications/2013-030pub.pdf

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/512496/first-graphene-audio-speaker-easily-outperforms-traditional-designs/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/441341/the-future-of-electrostatic-speakers-graphene


I think the head-fi link is the one I originally read.

[mashman]

Graphene too expensive... try hemp instead lol. (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28770876)