So much for the rego on hold bit - soon

[Big Dave]

Was just doing a bit of research and hit this - and thought of the KB heroes. Coming soon to a NZ near you.

Mobile Automatic Number Plate Recognition (MANPR) units that can scan six licence plates a second are fitted to 75 patrol cars. They have caught 20,841 unregistered vehicles so far this financial year.
All 172 fixed speed cameras, six mobile speed cameras, 17 bus lane cameras, 183 red light cameras (gradually being replaced by safety cameras at 200 locations), 26 transit lane cameras and 21 sets of point-to-point cameras now check registration details.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/end-of-the-road-for-rego-cheats-20110521-1exp6.html#ixzz2rHTELMqm

[Banditbandit]

Yeup .. if your rego is on hold it is best not to use your bike !!!

[Edbear]

Yeup .. if your rego is on hold it is best not to use your bike !!!

You're not seriously suggesting people actually obey the law are you..? :Police: :shit:

[Swoop]

I wonder how many vehicles have the plate SPIDI?
Possibly quite a few.

[Akzle]

i need to start carrying handgrenades.

this *should* lead to an increase in police shot/stabbed.
unfortunately, probably only leads to more $$ for teh govt. and if any cops do get shot/stabbed, they're gonna give them guns on the hip

comply, citizen!

[Oakie]

Yeup .. if your rego is on hold it is best not to use your bike !!!

Or don't whine if you get caught.

Me. I pay and ride worry free.

[roogazza]

don't live in NSW then. I wonder if we get them here ? :devil2:

[Big Dave]

don't live in NSW then. I wonder if we get them here ? :devil2:

It's about optimizing Tax revenue - I'd guess that = unavoidable.

[Damantis]

Just hypothetically speaking, your number plate was partially obscured by a loose WOF label?
Your bike is not detected, you get no mail.
You may get stopped and ticketed but you could probably thank them for pointing it out and get away with it.
Just say'n.

[danchop]

we have them now i reckon,those big safety transit type vans in police colours have that capability,just like trucks and buses can get camera tickets now,when they start to ticket you is another story

[Akzle]

Just hypothetically speaking, your number plate was partially obscured by a loose WOF label?
Your bike is not detected, you get no mail.
You may get stopped and ticketed but you could probably thank them for pointing it out and get away with it.
Just say'n.

probably wouldn't work if you had a dead rego and no wof...

[roogazza]

It's about optimizing Tax revenue - I'd guess that = unavoidable.

News today said the coffers were down a bit, so expect anything.

[Gremlin]

we have them now i reckon,those big safety transit type vans in police colours have that capability,
Talked about those last year, if not the year before. One was setup a few minutes ago, just before Newmarket Viaduct southbound on SH1...

Dave is talking about the next phase, general police vehicles being equipped with it.

[Big Dave]

Just hypothetically speaking, your number plate was partially obscured by a loose WOF label?
Your bike is not detected, you get no mail.
You may get stopped and ticketed but you could probably thank them for pointing it out and get away with it.
Just say'n.


Until they did the rego check - which would have been done by the time you reach for the brake. Then it's more likely you bend over for the full monty.

[SMOKEU]

i need to start carrying handgrenades.


Indeed. It's just another scam by the joos.

[Icemaestro]

My wife had a cop drive up next I her and say "better get that l plate where I can see it Laura" not sure camera or person but definitely creepy!


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[pete376403]

Indeed. It's just another scam by the joos.

Use the font that you used to make the "smokeu" graphic at the bottom of your post and make a fake plate. Get a live number from a cop bike - that should be registered and warranted.

[Ocean1]

Talked about those last year, if not the year before. One was setup a few minutes ago, just before Newmarket Viaduct southbound on SH1...

And they've got the gall to label them "traffic safety camera units". :doh:

[Gremlin]

And they've got the gall to label them "traffic safety camera units". :doh:
For them, they work. Heading northbound on SH1, passing the Autobahn, no idea why traffic slows to 50kph as we approach... ah, a "Traffic safety" van. After we pass... back to 100kph...

Caused a massive tailback :facepalm:

[pritch]

It's about optimizing Tax revenue - I'd guess that = unavoidable.

Ahh but BD you missed the point. It's about safety, the assistant commissioner said so.

But seriously, at that point the Police are just a branch of the IRD, IRS, or whatever it's called in the West Island.

[scumdog]

You're not seriously suggesting people actually obey the law are you..? :Police: :shit:

Hell no - as long as they don't mind the consequences eh....

[scumdog]

For them, they work. Heading northbound on SH1, passing the Autobahn, no idea why traffic slows to 50kph as we approach... ah, a "Traffic safety" van. After we pass... back to 100kph...

Caused a massive tailback :facepalm:

Stupid bloody motorists...:pinch:

[The Reibz]

I just rode my bike 660 odd kilometers with no wof or reg in one day. Had cops behind me for 8km on a certain expressway. No tickets.
Thank you NZ Police, I really appreciate you not giving a fuck about me

[scumdog]

I just rode my bike 660 odd kilometers with no wof or reg in one day. Had cops behind me for 8km on a certain expressway. No tickets.
Thank you NZ Police, I really appreciate you not giving a fuck about me

Yeah, the chick that goes around the schools said she saw some loser on an unregistered bike with no WOF but couldn't find her ticket book...

[SMOKEU]

Use the font that you used to make the "smokeu" graphic at the bottom of your post and make a fake plate. Get a live number from a cop bike - that should be registered and warranted.

I "stole" that image from the plates.co.nz website. How unoriginal of me. But don't tempt me too much with that cop plate idea, as my bike is very recognisable.

[Smifffy]

What if they stopped you with tape obscuring your plate, but you explained to them ever so nicely that it was a mistake and you simply forgot to take it off after trying to do a burnout? :Police:

[RDJ]

Hell no - as long as they don't mind the consequences eh....

Here are some of the consequences even if people do obey the laws

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nsw/student-rachel-gardner-awarded-243000-after-police-break-leg-20140124-31cww.html

[Gremlin]

Stupid bloody motorists...:pinch:
You live in the Riviera of the south... stay there.

Couple of nights ago shouted at a some women after following her for several kilometres with an interesting lap (well, she must have thought so because she kept looking at it). Nose to tail near miss, almost cleaned out a cyclist, constantly accelerating and braking and deviating from her lane. Pulled up along side at a traffic light to see her slowing to a stop looking at her mobile (no surprises) and shouted at her to stop using her mobile while driving, her driving was absolutely shocking and stop using your mobile while driving. She just sat there looking in somewhat disbelief at me shouting at her.

One can only hope she got the message, but man, did I wish I was a cop at that point...

Oh, and late-ish this evening, a car blew a red traffic light in downtown Auckland. Not even running a red, another traffic phase had already been and we were about to go. Just... well, no fricken idea what they were thinking.

Stay south, you might live longer...

[quickbuck]

One can only hope she got the message, ...

It's a shame her wasn't "For Sale" then you could have Text her..... ;)




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[awa355]

I will occasionally run my bike ( or car ) untill the next pay with an expired rego, and if I get nabbed, then have no one to blame but me. If someone is using a vehicle knowing the rego is on hold etc, and gets pinged, then I dont have much sympathy for them.

[MVnut]

If your rego is not on hold but simply overdue....bearing in mind they allow 2 months grace to put on hold.....what is the actual offense called if caught with wof but overdue rego?? Failure to display ?? With rego 'compulsory' it is hard to think what other offense could possibly be

[rastuscat]

Ahh but BD you missed the point. It's about safety, the assistant commissioner said so.

But seriously, at that point the Police are just a branch of the IRD, IRS, or whatever it's called in the West Island.

Odd, the ANPR car I operate isn't programmed to detect expired registrations.

It is programmed to detect those on hold, and those which have lapsed, but not expired regos.

By the logic on here, I guess that means it's not about revenue collecting, because if it was, we'd be pinging every expired rego sticker.

Just to add some balance.

[rastuscat]

If your rego is not on hold but simply overdue....bearing in mind they allow 2 months grace to put on hold.....what is the actual offense called if caught with wof but overdue rego?? Failure to display ?? With rego 'compulsory' it is hard to think what other offense could possibly be

Operated An Unlicensed Motor Vehicle.

Operating an unregistered vehicle is a different offence, the fine is $150. And 20 demerits.

Just operating an unlicensed vehicle, the fine is $100. And 15 demerits.

Driving a vehicle with the reg on hold costs $150 and has 20 demerits. Same as being unregistered.

[sil3nt]

How many are in the country now? I remember there being one in the Waikato for the last year or two. Pretty sure one of these ANPR cars picked up the same guy 3 times in one day driving 3 vehicles that were not road worthy.

[Big Dave]

I was actually pointing more at the hundreds of fixed cameras that now do the bizzo.

[98tls]

Fuck it then,will go down and rego the old S,its been on hold for many years.

[Akzle]

It is programmed to detect those on hold, and those which have lapsed, but not expired regos.

fucking excellent. haven't paid CVL or rego in fucking years.

[rastuscat]

Whats the fine for reg on hold but demonstrating you have the correct paid up ACC cover for the class of vehicle.

Guessing you already know the answer but here it is anyway. The roadside popo wont care about your political views regarding ACC levies. The system that exists has certain processes and those are the only ones that are enforced.

You're welcome to have your views, but don't expect them to count for much.

Jusy saying it how it is. I respect your views. Might even agree. But that's how it is.

[Scuba_Steve]

Operated An Unlicensed Motor Vehicle.

Operating an unregistered vehicle is a different offence, the fine is $150. And 20 demerits.

Just operating an unlicensed vehicle, the fine is $100. And 15 demerits.

Driving a vehicle with the reg on hold costs $150 and has 20 demerits. Same as being unregistered.

But from a couple decades ago it became almost impossible to "Operate an unlicensed vehicle" meaning the cops are straight up illegally extorting money using an outdated redundant legislation.
There are very few vehicles where this legislation could still apply

[Scouse]

Odd, the ANPR car I operate isn't programmed to detect expired registrations.

It is programmed to detect those on hold, and those which have lapsed, but not expired regos.

By the logic on here, I guess that means it's not about revenue collecting, because if it was, we'd be pinging every expired rego sticker.

Just to add some balance.so do you now have APNR equipped patrol cars now? I thought it was just in those vans.

[rastuscat]

so do you now have APNR equipped patrol cars now? I thought it was just in those vans.

I have a marked Omega with ANPR. Have had it for a couple of years.

[Smifffy]

It's the same day David!!!

[Banditbandit]

You're not seriously suggesting people actually obey the law are you..? :Police: :shit:

Not as such no ...

I am suggesting that if a bike rego is on hold then it is very expensive if you get caught riding it ...

[Edbear]

Not as such no ...

I am suggesting that if a bike rego is on hold then it is very expensive if you get caught riding it ...

True dat...

[Tazz]

Not as such no ...

I am suggesting that if a bike rego is on hold then it is very expensive if you get caught riding it ...

You can be pinged a couple of time in a year and still come out paying less than a years rego though in a lot of cases. Demerits are a different story.

[Bikemad]

Operated An Unlicensed Motor Vehicle.

Operating an unregistered vehicle is a different offence, the fine is $150. And 20 demerits.

Just operating an unlicensed vehicle, the fine is $100. And 15 demerits.

Driving a vehicle with the reg on hold costs $150 and has 20 demerits. Same as being unregistered.

last feb i got pinged riding my ex cop r80.....no wof and rego on hold.........the nice officer gave me a 14 day window to get the bike complied there by avoiding the $100 fine that he handed me.......but sadly there was too much to get done and was still waiting for some bits to arrive so the 14 days whizzed by and i paid the fine...........all good i thought untill i discovered about the points.......all 20 of them......why doesn't my case stack up with your examples above.......not fussed just curious

[willytheekid]

If you get a ticket for an out of date rego (fees out by a few months etc...not a dead rego etc)

Can you still get it paid up to date, and then take the ticket & new paid up rego sticker into the popo's to have the fine voided? (Just the fine..not the demerts..I think??)...Im sure you "used" to be able to do that?:confused:

Rastuscat??...could you possibly please confirm if this is still an option to people.

[MrItalian]

I just rode my bike 660 odd kilometers with no wof or reg in one day. Had cops behind me for 8km on a certain expressway. No tickets.
Thank you NZ Police, I really appreciate you not giving a fuck about me

They must of reached their daily quota for the day so they didnt bother coming after ya :2thumbsup




Couple of nights ago shouted at a some women after following her for several kilometres with an interesting lap (well, she must have thought so because she kept looking at it). Nose to tail near miss, almost cleaned out a cyclist, constantly accelerating and braking and deviating from her lane. Pulled up along side at a traffic light to see her slowing to a stop looking at her mobile (no surprises) and shouted at her to stop using her mobile while driving, her driving was absolutely shocking and stop using your mobile while driving. She just sat there looking in somewhat disbelief at me shouting at her.

One can only hope she got the message, but man, did I wish I was a cop at that point...




You should of just pretended to be an undercover coppa and given her a ticket lol:Police:

[EJK]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9662379/4520-in-tickets-I-m-an-easy-target

Recieved a ticket for driving a vehicle with a lapsed rego and warrant.

Kept on using the car.

He recieved more tickets.

Now whines how he is hunted down for driving a failed rego car and is unfair.

[Big Dave]

'Life coach'.

That may be the funniest thing I've read all week.

[rastuscat]

If you get a ticket for an out of date rego (fees out by a few months etc...not a dead rego etc)

Can you still get it paid up to date, and then take the ticket & new paid up rego sticker into the popo's to have the fine voided? (Just the fine..not the demerts..I think??)...Im sure you "used" to be able to do that?:confused:

Rastuscat??...could you possibly please confirm if this is still an option to people.

The whole problem with the compliance system is that it encourages folk to not worry about complying as when they get caught, they just go and do it, and get off the fine.

So, to be cynical about it, in a strange way the compliance system encourages law avoidance.

For the record, if the fine gets canned, that means the ticket gets cancelled, and the demerits go as well i.e. if the ticket dies, so do the points.

It's the same problem with my training incentive scheme. Down here I offer to cancel someones ticket if they do one of the rideforever.co.nz training courses.

So the cynical just continue to break the rules, as my scheme gives them a get out of jail free card. Well, not quite free, they have to go do a riding course, so I've had a win anyway.

Yeah, the compliance thing is a double edged sword.

From the website......

http://www.police.govt.nz/faq/what-traffic-compliance-and-how-do-i-get-it

Folk often overlook the important point that once you've had a ticket for something, doesn't mean you can't get another ticket for the same thing if you keep using vehicle. A rocket scientist in Nelson just found that out.

It's quite funny when we stop, for e.g., a young fella driving a car with a big crack across the screen. He might produce a ticket, complaining that it's not fair, coz he got a ticket for that yesterday. Slow learners.

[Smifffy]

It's quite funny when we stop, for e.g., a young fella driving a car with a big crack across the screen. He might produce a ticket, complaining that it's not fair, coz he got a ticket for that yesterday. Slow learners.

Must be trying to collect the whole set?

[willytheekid]

The whole problem with the compliance system is that it encourages folk to not worry about complying as when they get caught, they just go and do it, and get off the fine.

So, to be cynical about it, in a strange way the compliance system encourages law avoidance.

For the record, if the fine gets canned, that means the ticket gets cancelled, and the demerits go as well i.e. if the ticket dies, so do the points.

It's the same problem with my training incentive scheme. Down here I offer to cancel someones ticket if they do one of the rideforever.co.nz training courses.

So the cynical just continue to break the rules, as my scheme gives them a get out of jail free card. Well, not quite free, they have to go do a riding course, so I've had a win anyway.

Yeah, the compliance thing is a double edged sword.

From the website......

http://www.police.govt.nz/faq/what-traffic-compliance-and-how-do-i-get-it

Folk often overlook the important point that once you've had a ticket for something, doesn't mean you can't get another ticket for the same thing if you keep using vehicle. A rocket scientist in Nelson just found that out.

It's quite funny when we stop, for e.g., a young fella driving a car with a big crack across the screen. He might produce a ticket, complaining that it's not fair, coz he got a ticket for that yesterday. Slow learners.

Cheers Ras

I too am amazed this system still exsists:yes:...as I find it can also benefit those who are financially disadvantaged at the time! (eg, can't afford the rediculasly huge rego fees)...VERY odd in these times indeed<_<

But I was just refering to rego (sorry...lets call just call it ACC,BS,TAX...to be clear)...not parking tickets, and certainly NOT using unwarrented & dangerous vehicals.:crazy:

I was just questioning if, once issued an expired Rego ticket, don't you have 28days to "either", pay the fine, or get your rego...sorry!:pinch:...ACC,BS,TAX:yes: all paid up to date
...so how can multiple tickets be issued?(Excluding parking tickets...thats a council thing)...especially when you are going to pay the back taxes in the process of getting up to date?:confused:


law avoidance!...will NOT be tolerated!!
http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/styles/blog_post_media/public/images/Judge_Dredd_01.jpg?itok=-7_l8r7i
...that includes YOU late road tax payers!!:laugh:

Ooooh:eek:, how ya liking the new bike?....smidsy & fireball like it as well?(I hope fireball got first go..his roasted arse earnt it! lol)...are ya suuuure we cant have a go??(I don't mind stepping down from a honda to a BMW lol :D)

[Dodgy]

Interestingly, a colleague was pulled up last week on his bike for a minor infringement (failing to keep left , which was probably a charitable way of viewing the crossing of a double yellow).

Anyhow, he was entirely pleasant and apologetic to the officer who turned around and pursued him. The rego was on hold, which must have been revealed when the check was done. No mention was made of this, just a $150 ticket.

Perhaps manners and respect go a long way for when one gets pulled over?

[Banditbandit]

'Life coach'.

That may be the funniest thing I've read all week.


life coach, fitness trainer and sickness beneficiary Isaac Takarangi


Yeah .. and how does a "fitness trainer" get to be on a sickness benefit ??? The two ideas seem mutually exclusive ... maybe it's not just licencing requirements he's trying to bullshit the government departments about ...

[Smifffy]

Interestingly, a colleague was pulled up last week on his bike for a minor infringement (failing to keep left , which was probably a charitable way of viewing the crossing of a double yellow).

Anyhow, he was entirely pleasant and apologetic to the officer who turned around and pursued him. The rego was on hold, which must have been revealed when the check was done. No mention was made of this, just a $150 ticket.

Perhaps manners and respect go a long way for when one gets pulled over?

I've no idea, except that I have always been polite, courteous and fully rego/warrant etc and always received the ticket for my alleged infringements.

I wonder what the infringement would be for brake checking a popo using an SUV?

[bogan]

I wonder what the infringement would be for brake checking a popo using an SUV?

Ticket for a broken tail light? :innocent:

[quickbuck]

I wonder what the infringement would be for brake checking a popo using an SUV?
Well.... I would say this is pretty foolish...
The popo might accidentally run over you in his SUV ;)

So, yeah, anything from Broken Tail light to Motorcycle not in road worthy condition.....







Yup, your comment can be taken either way, but this KB, not SUV Driver.

[yevjenko]

I was just questioning if, once issued an expired Rego ticket, don't you have 28days to "either", pay the fine, or get your rego...sorry!:pinch:...ACC,BS,TAX:yes: all paid up to date
...so how can multiple tickets be issued?(Excluding parking tickets...thats a council thing)...especially when you are going to pay the back taxes in the process of getting up to date?:confused:

'Cos the tickets were issued by the council on his parked car. they can and will ticket you whenever they want.... feckers

[willytheekid]

'Cos the tickets were issued by the council on his parked car. they can and will ticket you whenever they want.... feckers

Well aware of this thanks ->"...so how can multiple tickets be issued?(Excluding parking tickets...thats a council thing)"