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mulletman
27th January 2014, 08:57
For sale...
http://www.trademotorcycles.com.au/detail/motorcycles/motorcycles/yamaha/rz500n/163928

James Deuce
27th January 2014, 08:59
Duplicate thread!

Get him!!

Tazz
27th January 2014, 09:01
Duplicate thread!

Get him!!

I'm all over it!


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240
27th January 2014, 17:12
Farken hell!! I reckon its worth every cent of the price :yes:

george formby
27th January 2014, 17:37
Not having noticed the original thread I shall comment here. WOOD! That's what that does for me.

Not sure about the worth every cent bit. Seems cheap as chips when you see what original or restored ones go for but how much work would the bike need to get running? That's a long time in a box.

Serious question for those who know. What is a new bikes expected shelf life?

James Deuce
27th January 2014, 18:27
The bike's fine. Every bearing and seal is fucked. All the rubber needs replacing. Bearings need checking for distortion and subtle corrosion and if you're going to pull them and look at them, you may as well just put new ones in. 30 years of gravity and immobility do odd things to little bits of metal. Cush drive is probably perished and the tyres will look OK, but will have less grip than alloy rims and will probably start cracking after one heat cycle. If they don't have permanent flat spots. Carb o-rings, fuel tap seals, fuel cap seals all potentially fucked. So while the price looks good, chasing down suitable OEM or pattern parts that aren't a joke will try your patience a bit. You'd need to tear it right down, check everything and replace what's necessary and put it back together before even thinking about firing it up.

The good news is that modern tyres are vastly better than old ones and an Ohlins shock (cos the seals are fucked) and blanking off any anti-dive bollocks and adding emulators and decent springs (and replacing fucked fork seals) should give you an agile and fun bike.

The list of things to do and the potential cost will probably exceed any reasonable expectations by a factor of 4. I wouldn't expect change out of $50k before it was running.

danchop
27th January 2014, 19:14
id just acid the battery,add some petrol/oil and blast off,i dont think it would need stripping at all?

Tazz
27th January 2014, 21:00
id just acid the battery,add some petrol/oil and blast off,i dont think it would need stripping at all?

Schweet! Away you go :p

Kickaha
27th January 2014, 21:03
A friend of mine in OZ has contacted him regarding this bike and has been told the owner is getting offers above what he has asked

george formby
27th January 2014, 21:09
A friend of mine in OZ has contacted him regarding this bike and has been told the owner is getting offers above what he has asked

It's gleamin! Never killed a fly!

What yon chap said earlier... if I had a spare fiddy or sixty grand I would be in like a shot. Brand spanking better than new RZ. I'm dribbling slightly.

grubbytech
28th January 2014, 07:57
Really!! You can get a Suzuki RG for less & that's a far better bike. The Yammy was a disappointment really, it wasn't light enough for starters. I rode one with an engine conversion once. The guy had replaced the standard bores, pistons & carbs with 350LC one's fitted Allspeed spannies & changed the suspension for Ohlins. Now that was a quick bike, still a lump compared to the Suzuki though.
It makes me chuckle when I see people paying silly money for Honda 400 triples too, they we're gutless bits of poo.
Nearly all the 250's though, worth every penny. You just had to be a good mechanic.

nudemetalz
28th January 2014, 09:24
I had one back in the 90's. Loved it and wasn't that much slower than the RG (as found out back from Akaroa once...apparently).
The thing I loved the most was the sound. V4 stroker,..lovely !!

Yes, it was a handful around the tight corners, bump steered like a bitch and used petrol like I had shares with Mobil, but I'd still have another.

festus
28th January 2014, 09:31
I had one back in the 90's. Loved it and wasn't that much slower than the RG (as found out back from Akaroa once...apparently).
The thing I loved the most was the sound. V4 stroker,..lovely !!

Yes, it was a handful around the tight corners, bump steered like a bitch and used petrol like I had shares with Mobil, but I'd still have another.

Owned one also, awesome memories awesome bike!.........

jasonu
28th January 2014, 13:10
Owned one also, awesome memories awesome bike!.........

Me too. I got mine from Vinsens when they were on Beach Rd. I got it around 1987 with 1500 miles on the clock. Wish I still had it.

HenryDorsetCase
28th January 2014, 14:47
The bike's fine. Every bearing and seal is fucked. All the rubber needs replacing. Bearings need checking for distortion and subtle corrosion and if you're going to pull them and look at them, you may as well just put new ones in. 30 years of gravity and immobility do odd things to little bits of metal. Cush drive is probably perished and the tyres will look OK, but will have less grip than alloy rims and will probably start cracking after one heat cycle. If they don't have permanent flat spots. Carb o-rings, fuel tap seals, fuel cap seals all potentially fucked. So while the price looks good, chasing down suitable OEM or pattern parts that aren't a joke will try your patience a bit. You'd need to tear it right down, check everything and replace what's necessary and put it back together before even thinking about firing it up.

The good news is that modern tyres are vastly better than old ones and an Ohlins shock (cos the seals are fucked) and blanking off any anti-dive bollocks and adding emulators and decent springs (and replacing fucked fork seals) should give you an agile and fun bike.

The list of things to do and the potential cost will probably exceed any reasonable expectations by a factor of 4. I wouldn't expect change out of $50k before it was running.

Hell Naw.

the only point this thing has is that it is a "brand new "in the box" RZ500N. As soon as you do anything to it much less ride it you destroy its value. Because at that point its just an excellent condition, used, 25+ year old bike.

Its like this tardme listing from Graeme Crosby: I adore CB400F's and it would be nice to have this in a glass case in our reception area, but as soon as it goes from being jewellery or paper weight to being an actual motorcycle, it has no "value" to the moneyed collectors.

MHO

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-690351861.htm

Big Dave
28th January 2014, 14:50
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swarfie
28th January 2014, 15:58
Hell Naw.

the only point this thing has is that it is a "brand new "in the box" RZ500N. As soon as you do anything to it much less ride it you destroy its value. Because at that point its just an excellent condition, used, 25+ year old bike.

Its like this tardme listing from Graeme Crosby: I adore CB400F's and it would be nice to have this in a glass case in our reception area, but as soon as it goes from being jewellery or paper weight to being an actual motorcycle, it has no "value" to the moneyed collectors.

MHO

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-690351861.htm

My old man bought one (CB 400F) new in '76 and had it 10 years, I bought it off him and had it another 12 years. Sold it in mint condition with 46,000 km on the clock...my point is they need to be used. We took it around to Barries place (the guy who originally had this one still in its crate at that stage...least I'm pretty sure its the same one) to show him what a REAL one looked like. His was new but because it hadn't been taken out of the box and had been sweating a bit, was in worse condition than the ours that HAD been used...shame really....use them, that's what they're made for :2thumbsup

Tazz
28th January 2014, 16:34
My old man bought one (CB 400F) new in '76 and had it 10 years, I bought it off him and had it another 12 years. Sold it in mint condition with 46,000 km on the clock...my point is they need to be used. We took it around to Barries place (the guy who originally had this one still in its crate at that stage...least I'm pretty sure its the same one) to show him what a REAL one looked like. His was new but because it hadn't been taken out of the box and had been sweating a bit, was in worse condition than the ours that HAD been used...shame really....use them, that's what they're made for :2thumbsup

Putting his annoyingness, gigantic face and any jealousy aside, Jay Leno has said exactly the same thing multiple times (I believe he used a Dodge Viper as an example in the convo I remember, and it was in relation to why he gets out and about with even his rarest cars and bikes and if that affects the value a lot).

imdying
28th January 2014, 17:12
Given the nature of the two stroke enthusiast, I suspect having to take it to bits and rebuild it just adds to the attraction.

danchop
28th January 2014, 20:19
you do know there is an rz500 still in the box in nz as well