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malcy25
11th October 2018, 07:29
PMSL cunny funt!


I'd consider the Gixxer cup but I'm too old for that so we need something spec level for those of us that don't want to or can't sink thousands into a 300cc bike to race nationally.



I bought my second, specced up top level, ready to ride 300 with all the suspension, bodywork, rearsets, bars, PC5 etc done for less than $7k.....and got most of the road kit too

I suppose "sink thousands" is technically correct....as in it is more than hundreds, but pretty cheap.

Scubbo
11th October 2018, 07:33
just buy the tu250x if you want a jap made gn250 :O manufactured in j-pan still 6K NZD new :P

https://www.suzuki.co.nz/Images/Assets/549506/11/

sidecar bob
11th October 2018, 07:46
I bought my second, specced up top level, ready to ride 300 with all the suspension, bodywork, rearsets, bars, PC5 etc done for less than $7k.....and got most of the road kit too

I suppose "sink thousands" is technically correct....as in it is more than hundreds, but pretty cheap.

Yeah, that's only a hard weekend on a TZ750 I guess.:pinch:

Mike.Gayner
11th October 2018, 10:04
Considering how rough it is I've almost certainly overpaid lol, but it's just what I've been looking for (sort of) so I couldn't help myself. Done a deal on this this.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1798321487

https://i.imgur.com/UjDE6a5.png

malcy25
11th October 2018, 11:10
Yeah, that's only a hard weekend on a TZ750 I guess.:pinch:

when you leave it laying in the dirt, yes!

Just waiting for the repainting bill currently....

Drew
11th October 2018, 13:14
just buy the tu250x if you want a jap made gn250 :O manufactured in j-pan still 6K NZD new :P

https://www.suzuki.co.nz/Images/Assets/549506/11/
Different motor to the GN.

F5 Dave
11th October 2018, 17:17
Hmm. Single ex port head. Who knew?

Anorak :msn-wink:

Grumph
11th October 2018, 18:20
Hmm. Single ex port head. Who knew?

Anorak :msn-wink:

Cheaper with only one header pipe....

Fresh Oats
11th October 2018, 19:57
$3,333 o.n.o.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1798103692.htm?rsqid=50518f9ecf804966abd294d8facfa 229

It is reasonably tastefully done (for once) but 74,000 km's and of course a GN... I hope he's open minded about what a nearest offer is likely to be...

Needs shorter front forks, clipons, bar-end wing mirrors, a smaller seat and just a speedometer. IMO.
Oh and the obvious, for it to not be a GN.

AllanB
11th October 2018, 20:14
Nothing cafe about that GN - its a bobber.

People :crazy::facepalm:

F5 Dave
11th October 2018, 21:21
Does that describe the suspension?

Banditbandit
12th October 2018, 10:27
$3,333 o.n.o.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1798103692.htm?rsqid=50518f9ecf804966abd294d8facfa 229

It is reasonably tastefully done (for once) but 74,000 km's and of course a GN... I hope he's open minded about what a nearest offer is likely to be...

Road lice is Road Lice - not matter how you dress it up

Autech
12th October 2018, 12:14
Different motor to the GN.

Thought it was the same but with FI?

Drew
12th October 2018, 12:19
Thought it was the same but with FI?

Doesn't have enough header pipes to be the same motor.

Might be the same bottom end, but totally different head.

WALRUS
12th October 2018, 12:23
A unique rebuild of an original Japanese Suzuki GN250.

A unique rebuild.

unique


... Yeah, totally unique...

pritch
12th October 2018, 14:33
... Yeah, totally unique...

More like eunuch. :whistle:

Voltaire
22nd October 2018, 19:27
Awesome 1974 Honda CB 360
Rego on hold
Cafe Racer
Professionally painted in classic black
New shocks and tyres
Some minor work and air required to make this slightly unpolished gem
a bike you'd be proud to own.
ONLY $3000.00

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/893863174.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1811531396.htm?rsqid=bb184b13397145ac8241e8d66c69f 28a

AllanB
22nd October 2018, 21:09
Awesome 1974 Honda CB 360
Rego on hold
Cafe Racer
Professionally painted in classic black
New shocks and tyres
Some minor work and air required to make this slightly unpolished gem
a bike you'd be proud to own.
ONLY $3000.00


Tired old 360
Spent too much time at the Cafe thinking about a Racer
My brother in-law is a lawyer - I gave him a rattle can and he painted it. He is a professional lawyer....
New to the bike - got them cheap off TM
Major work - for some reason the new front tyre won't hold air
You'll feel proud that your massive arse looks small when sitting on that seat (the seat cannot be unseen)
Should be $300

Laava
22nd October 2018, 21:29
I like the classy oil catch bottle mounted where the mirror should be. A lot of thought has gone into that.
or maybe that is the communication tube to the engine room! "Full speed ahead!"

Fresh Oats
22nd October 2018, 21:49
Awesome 1974 Honda CB 360
Rego on hold
Cafe Racer
Professionally painted in classic black
New shocks and tyres
Some minor work and air required to make this slightly unpolished gem
a bike you'd be proud to own.
ONLY $3000.00

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/893863174.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1811531396.htm?rsqid=bb184b13397145ac8241e8d66c69f 28a

Those shocks though...
I can't tell if they're actually the smallest shocks I have ever seen or they just look so small because the seat is so god damn massive.

jasonu
23rd October 2018, 02:21
I like the classy oil catch bottle mounted where the mirror should be. A lot of thought has gone into that.
or maybe that is the communication tube to the engine room! "Full speed ahead!"

I thought it was a bong.

Voltaire
23rd October 2018, 08:55
I thought it was a bong.

Some form of Hipster remote fueling monitoring system, with gas soon to be $3.00 you don't want to leave it in the tank.

Early ride by air throttle system seems to have been employed ( note surplus cables)

F5 Dave
23rd October 2018, 12:07
Yeah I did. Doubt that will have much affect on the viability of the project. Jeez man. 3K. What planet for that scabby junker? A fine $300 beach bike maybe.

HenryDorsetCase
23rd October 2018, 13:38
Tired old 360
Spent too much time at the Cafe thinking about a Racer
My brother in-law is a lawyer - I gave him a rattle can and he painted it. He is a professional lawyer....
New to the bike - got them cheap off TM
Major work - for some reason the new front tyre won't hold air
You'll feel proud that your massive arse looks small when sitting on that seat (the seat cannot be unseen)
Should be $300

That brake pedal is a crime against humanity and needs to be reported under the relevant Geneva Convention.

F5 Dave
23rd October 2018, 17:47
You mean: standard, but with no resting stop on it. I'd like to think that would be a wof fail but there probably isn't a catch all for lazy incompetence.

So chances that there is an air correction kit for those CVs with the airbox removed? :tugger:

speedpro
23rd October 2018, 19:04
I had a 470cc CB360 in Perth running open CVs off an early Kawasaki 450 LTD. Perfect carburation and went like a cut cat. Unlike similar vintage Hondas it had a big clutch and a real sweet 6 speed gearbox. Lots of fun around Wanneroo.
$3000? I don't think so. Mine had GPz1100 brakes, 18" wheels(it was a while ago) and was at least as quick as the local shop Yoshimura GPz500/4. I sold it to bubbles for $100

F5 Dave
24th October 2018, 05:59
So hardly std and you've got a shit ton of experience jetting bikes. Most of these dicks just remove the airbox and maybe fit a dreadful k&n copy, the cheap ones are particularly useless.

Drew
24th October 2018, 06:36
... fit a dreadful k&n copy, the cheap ones are particularly useless.

Malcolm was telling me that back to back dyno runs showed a drop in power when fitting those terrible conical mesh style filters.

They look the business though, so I guess that makes up for it.

Ocean1
24th October 2018, 07:17
Malcolm was telling me that back to back dyno runs showed a drop in power when fitting those terrible conical mesh style filters.

They look the business though, so I guess that makes up for it.

Yep, I recall lab tests done in the US on aftermarket filters for common models of cars. They tested flow, particulate reduction and life expectancy for every major filter available.

In every case the OE filter was a better filter, lasted longer and in most cases they actually flowed better too, the summary was basically a lecture on the power of advertising.

Unbelievably, it turns out that Mr AC Delco actually had a few clues.

sidecar bob
24th October 2018, 07:28
Yep, I recall lab tests done in the US on aftermarket filters for common models of cars. They tested flow, particulate reduction and life expectancy for every major filter available.

In every case the OE filter was a better filter, lasted longer and in most cases they actually flowed better too, the summary was basically a lecture on the power of advertising.

Unbelievably, it turns out that Mr AC Delco actually had a few clues.

I always educated my apprentices that while you are employed to fix cars, other people are employed to sell parts or tools, regardless of wether said parts or tools work or not.

pritch
24th October 2018, 08:22
There's a Youtube item examining why the new 900cc Triump is so gutless. In the item he mentions they fitted the Triumph Vance and Hines optional extra exhaust system, fifteen hundred quids worth, and a dyno run showed 1bhp gain. Nearly three thousand of our Pacific pesos for one solitary hp.

Still, some years ago BIKE tested aftermarket cans and some of them produced less than standard.

The Youtube clip is here if you've got a lazy twenty minutes or so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRk6x_u3mBI&t=1103s&frags=pl%2Cwn

jellywrestler
24th October 2018, 09:12
There's a Youtube item examining why the new 900cc Triump is so gutless. In the item he mentions they fitted the Triumph Vance and Hines optional extra exhaust system, fifteen hundred quids worth, and a dyno run showed 1bhp gain. Nearly three thousand of our Pacific pesos for one solitary hp.

of course no ones ever fitted an aftermarket pipe for the sound and it's cheaper than oem to replace....

WALRUS
24th October 2018, 09:39
I'll admit that I don't know a lot about old Kwakkas but even though it's an H2A and they're quite desirable, I struggle to see $20k in this condition..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1811007514.htm?rsqid=deb0e979294e467db94ea54f94149 907

Dadpole
24th October 2018, 09:52
That Kawa has been on Tardme for 1000 years and gradually climbs in asking price.
I suspect it is the equivalent of the 'Nigerian Prince' scheme. "You only need one sucker with money".

Mike.Gayner
24th October 2018, 10:31
Yes that's the weirdest listing, literally getting more expensive the longer it takes to sell. It has been listed for AT LEAST the last 3 years, possibly much longer.

As an H2 it definitely has some value....but no not $20k in that state.

HenryDorsetCase
24th October 2018, 11:05
I always educated my apprentices that while you are employed to fix cars, other people are employed to sell parts or tools, regardless of wether said parts or tools work or not.

VFR400's are very susceptible to shit running with alterations to the airbox. Unless you are going full HRC its better to leave them as stock as poss.

pritch
24th October 2018, 11:52
of course no ones ever fitted an aftermarket pipe for the sound and it's cheaper than oem to replace....

We all have different budgets and priorities but anyone paying three grand simply to change the exhaust note definitely has different priorities to me. Having said that my last bike had cans and the current bike has a full system, neither at my expense though.

Your point about the cost of OEM is valid.

F5 Dave
24th October 2018, 12:36
Re the H2; It's come up at least a 1/2 dozen times on this thread. I can't remember TradeMe pre that listing. My pet theory is Sam Morgan accidentally hard coded it in as a test so it can't be removed.

F5 Dave
24th October 2018, 12:50
Ideally you would optimise fueling every change to find the true worth of modifications. A lot of stuff is sold no jetting changes required I suspect to remove impediments to purchase.

Airflow is a funny thing. Indeed I've sent people home with more power and a cone filter in their toolbox on several occasions.
Years back I fitted a k&n airbox filter to my YZF750SP before and after dyno runs.
112hp std filter
95hp k&n std jets
112hp k&n think we got to 3 sizes bigger before gains stopped.

So clearly the k&n was flowing better requiring richer jetting.
But, many buyers wouldn't have realised that.
Also the restriction to producing still more power was further upstream. Likely in the 5v heads, but that's another story.

jasonu
24th October 2018, 13:43
Malcolm was telling me that back to back dyno runs showed a drop in power when fitting those terrible conical mesh style filters.

They look the business though, so I guess that makes up for it.

You have to do a bit of tuning as well. No such thing as a free lunch.

jasonu
24th October 2018, 13:46
Yes that's the weirdest listing, literally getting more expensive the longer it takes to sell. It has been listed for AT LEAST the last 3 years, possibly much longer.

As an H2 it definitely has some value....but no not $20k in that state.


Re the H2; It's come up at least a 1/2 dozen times on this thread. I can't remember TradeMe pre that listing. My pet theory is Sam Morgan accidentally hard coded it in as a test so it can't be removed.

Nice original ones are getting $12 to $15k over here.
That heap of shit looks like $8k at best to me.

jellywrestler
24th October 2018, 17:10
We all have different budgets and priorities but anyone paying three grand simply to change the exhaust note definitely has different priorities to me. Having said that my last bike had cans and the current bike has a full system, neither at my expense though.

Your point about the cost of OEM is valid.

god gave me five senses, hearing is one of the few that is activated on a bike, how many road whales (harleys) do you hear with stock pipes?

russd7
24th October 2018, 17:25
I'll admit that I don't know a lot about old Kwakkas but even though it's an H2A and they're quite desirable, I struggle to see $20k in this condition..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1811007514.htm?rsqid=deb0e979294e467db94ea54f94149 907

yeah but its got a make-up mirror, that's gotta be worth somit <_<

Pound
24th October 2018, 17:27
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1813596098.htm?rsqid=fbabdfb12f7a46bab2f97801a28b5 794

Yeah but it has really expensive headlights, so I suppose it's not optimistic after all..........:brick:

tigertim20
24th October 2018, 18:33
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1813596098.htm?rsqid=fbabdfb12f7a46bab2f97801a28b5 794

Yeah but it has really expensive headlights, so I suppose it's not optimistic after all..........:brick:

If the KMs were a bit lower, that would be a quite reasonable price.
R6 from '07 and later are fairly desirable to a lot of people and seem to hold value really well - so he'll still probably get $7k or more for it.

And you could buy an '04 GSXR 1k for $5k.
People want what they want I guess

HenryDorsetCase
24th October 2018, 20:08
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1813596098.htm?rsqid=fbabdfb12f7a46bab2f97801a28b5 794

Yeah but it has really expensive headlights, so I suppose it's not optimistic after all..........:brick:

looking at his tyres he has been riding it like a "cruyser" already.

AllanB
24th October 2018, 20:55
We all have different budgets and priorities but anyone paying three grand simply to change the exhaust note definitely has different priorities to me. Having said that my last bike had cans and the current bike has a full system, neither at my expense though.

Your point about the cost of OEM is valid.

Weight savings can be significant. Looks to thinking of some of the weird Kawasaki origami mufflers of recent years.

On the weight savings also consider cutting back on a few beers every week - less rider weight and more money!

pritch
24th October 2018, 21:20
On the weight savings also consider cutting back on a few beers every week - less rider weight and more money!

Good one. The exhaust system is lighter than standard, a single carbon fibre can, no cat, etc...
Really though I wouldn't look out of place on a FatBob, and as much as it might bother me when trying on kit in the shop, I didn't retire so I could go on another bloody diet.

Cheers:drinkup:

F5 Dave
25th October 2018, 06:00
. . .

On the weight savings also consider cutting back on a few beers every week - less rider weight and more money!
Who are you? Jesus? Preachy preachy.
Next you'll be saying we shouldn't covet our neighbour's arse. :buggerd:

Ohh, ohh, I have another one. Thou shall not kill. Unless it's someone from another religion. Or a witch. Or Gay. Or, the same religion but with a slightly different interpretation.

Ok I'm done.

Pound
25th October 2018, 10:08
If the KMs were a bit lower, that would be a quite reasonable price.
R6 from '07 and later are fairly desirable to a lot of people and seem to hold value really well - so he'll still probably get $7k or more for it.

And you could buy an '04 GSXR 1k for $5k.
People want what they want I guess


Better yet, buy this for 12K -13K

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1814008272.htm?rsqid=95293dd89b9849e3a9c9ace2f4d39 542

jasonu
25th October 2018, 13:41
Check out this dopey cunt.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Kawasaki-Z2-750-RS-LOOK-LIKE-Z1R/223199783488?hash=item33f7be6a40:g:42QAAOSwCsRbziW u&vxp=mtr

F5 Dave
25th October 2018, 18:05
That frame is heap scabby. Wouldn't want to put any money into that even if the rest was kosher.

F5 Dave
25th October 2018, 18:08
Would people really pay 22k for this ugly pos?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1671298084.htm?rsqid=49957222781e4de594980f1d1bc61 5e4

F5 Dave
25th October 2018, 18:13
Um, I figured if I took the pictures with the lights out you might buy it a drink like the 3am fat chick at the bar.
Had a sparky look at the wiring. . . on my phone , in a bar, but he ran away.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1813919540.htm?rsqid=49957222781e4de594980f1d1bc61 5e4

F5 Dave
25th October 2018, 18:16
Oop, the devil is selling his B120 and he wants $1000 for it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1813568503.htm?rsqid=49957222781e4de594980f1d1bc61 5e4


Go to hell!

Laava
25th October 2018, 19:34
Check out this dopey cunt.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Kawasaki-Z2-750-RS-LOOK-LIKE-Z1R/223199783488?hash=item33f7be6a40:g:42QAAOSwCsRbziW u&vxp=mtr
Did the Z1R's come out with no cylinders? Wow, that is groundbreaking...

AllanB
25th October 2018, 21:11
Would people really pay 22k for this ugly pos?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1671298084.htm?rsqid=49957222781e4de594980f1d1bc61 5e4


Redbook.co.nz says they were over $33k brand new in 2009. It only has 11,000 kms, looks well loved.

Bet the dealer will take $19,999. Looking at TM for similar year softails $20k is not off the money - particularly as the Rocker is something different from HD (I recall it reviewing well in the rags) had a limited year run, and from seeing them in the flesh are one of the better detailed Hogs if that's your thing.

It's as close as you'll ever get to a genuine factory 'chopper' (other than that sales flop of a Honda some years back).

I don't know man - that model has the potential to end up like those Sportster Cafe models of the 80's. Or not, I can't pick em!!!!!

jasonu
26th October 2018, 02:22
Would people really pay 22k for this ugly pos?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1671298084.htm?rsqid=49957222781e4de594980f1d1bc61 5e4

Sadly yes.

pritch
26th October 2018, 10:38
A tad pedantic perhaps, but the type of anorak that loves these things should know the correct nomenclature.
That's a Golden Flash. For some reason known only to the folks at Small Heath, the Star was Gold but the Flash was Golden.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1804387958.htm

WALRUS
26th October 2018, 11:01
A tad pedantic perhaps, but the type of anorak that loves these things should know the correct nomenclature.
That's a Golden Flash. For some reason known only to the folks at Small Heath, the Star was Gold but the Flash was Golden.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1804387958.htm

I don't believe that battery is period correct.. If someone is going to the lengths to restore this classic bike, don't whack a neon green fuckin' battery on it. At least find a black one

Autech
26th October 2018, 11:30
A tad pedantic perhaps, but the type of anorak that loves these things should know the correct nomenclature.
That's a Golden Flash. For some reason known only to the folks at Small Heath, the Star was Gold but the Flash was Golden.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1804387958.htm

He should forfeit ownership for not knowing what he rides. Fugging cool bike though!

F5 Dave
26th October 2018, 11:55
I thought the appropriate method was to hollow out an old shell of a battery and mount a modern AGM battery inside it.

Voltaire
26th October 2018, 13:32
I thought the appropriate method was to hollow out an old shell of a battery and mount a modern AGM battery inside it.

You can buy replica battery cases, I run my 53 T'Bird total loss with LED lamps....oh the shame...and I used some metric fasteners too.

Banditbandit
26th October 2018, 15:29
Check out this dopey cunt.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Kawasaki-Z2-750-RS-LOOK-LIKE-Z1R/223199783488?hash=item33f7be6a40:g:42QAAOSwCsRbziW u&vxp=mtr

Rainbow Nation ...

Grumph
27th October 2018, 13:50
Check out this dopey cunt.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Kawasaki-Z2-750-RS-LOOK-LIKE-Z1R/223199783488?hash=item33f7be6a40:g:42QAAOSwCsRbziW u&vxp=mtr

A real pity. Worth a lot more unmolested. The Z2 was a Jap home market 750 version of the Z1. AFAIK, enough were imported into the US to make it legal for AMA dirt racing. No other market got them. And yes, someone did try one on the dirt.
Z2's are seriously rare - even in Japan I believe.
The later Z750 is an enlarged Z650 and quite different.

layton
27th October 2018, 19:52
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1809081637.htm?rsqid=eb1ea77a3b6e41958c0b79be3882f 057

dreams are free i guess.. thats one expensive pile of parts.

Drew
27th October 2018, 20:07
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1809081637.htm?rsqid=eb1ea77a3b6e41958c0b79be3882f 057

dreams are free i guess.. thats once expensive pile of parts.
Fucken hell!

AllanB
27th October 2018, 22:02
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1809081637.htm?rsqid=eb1ea77a3b6e41958c0b79be3882f 057

dreams are free i guess.. thats one expensive pile of parts.


Apparently the motors are worth a lot of money. Well he says that in the comments!

Laava
27th October 2018, 22:55
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1809081637.htm?rsqid=eb1ea77a3b6e41958c0b79be3882f 057

dreams are free i guess.. thats one expensive pile of parts.
There is a big groove in the tank where he has been frantically stroking!

F5 Dave
28th October 2018, 07:08
Wallace knows his way around an engine, but that doesn't mean he laid a spanner on it or tuned it using money. Std wheels, non runner. Fuck off.


Ohh, ohh. He should have said Suzuki Factory Engine.

Grumph
28th October 2018, 09:21
Wallace knows his way around an engine, but that doesn't mean he laid a spanner on it or tuned it using money. Std wheels, non runner. Fuck off.


Ohh, ohh. He should have said Suzuki Factory Engine.

Looking at the asking price, I'd reckon Wallace has done the engine - and the figure is what the collection owes the seller.
But as with any of these projects, you never get back what you've spent....

Fresh Oats
28th October 2018, 09:47
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1809081637.htm?rsqid=eb1ea77a3b6e41958c0b79be3882f 057

dreams are free i guess.. thats one expensive pile of parts.

"Need to move this on, I bought with the intention to build up but have lost the motivation"

Which I think is code for "I underestimated how much it would cost to restore and I've already spent a bunch of money on it (blowing all my budget on fairings) and now expect the new buyer to pay full price for everything so I can recoup 110% of my costs."

Ginge09
28th October 2018, 09:51
you never get back what you've spent....

Ain’t that the truth. What you lose in $$$ you get back in smiles though. Assuming you get it running of course.

Autech
28th October 2018, 12:29
Lol that's my mates bike.
Engine build from Wallace is worth a few thousand afaik and he builds a bloody good motor (got one in mine). But as is often the case you don't get out what you put in, he'd be better selling it as parts if that's the case.


Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk

Grumph
28th October 2018, 13:57
Lol that's my mates bike.
Engine build from Wallace is worth a few thousand afaik and he builds a bloody good motor (got one in mine). But as is often the case you don't get out what you put in, he'd be better selling it as parts if that's the case.


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Well, tell him to be more specific about what's been done to the motor - to justify the asking price.

Autech
28th October 2018, 14:59
Well, tell him to be more specific about what's been done to the motor - to justify the asking price.

Exactly. I'm not 100% sure what Wallace does to the engines myself, all I know is they go bloody well and seem to not blow up as much as some others do.

AllanB
28th October 2018, 15:20
Trolling through the TM this morning waiting on my coffee to cool I search Bonniville as I'd just spied a tasty custom one the web (big bucks spent).

Prices are starting to lower, interestingly the new current models are on special around the country - $2-3k off, older ones dropping as well. Maybe NZ has reached Bonnie saturation?

There are of course the usual dreamers - asking big money for their 60,000k bike when a keyboard search pulls half a dozen of the same model for the same value but wearing a tenth of the kms.

There was a tidy sorted looking VW trike for $13k if that's your thing. The only thing I did not like was the GS1000 front end - pretty sure that could be updated!

WALRUS
29th October 2018, 16:09
I mean, these little beasts are a real hoot in a paddock.. But not THAT much of a hoot!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1810362138.htm?rsqid=fededebffb5246e0b45905262e03b d9f

Fresh Oats
30th October 2018, 08:51
I don't know if this is a good price or not, but wtf is that piece of crap?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1819124014.htm?rsqid=0f822de0d7be47c4b05f68f41ddcb f41

HenryDorsetCase
30th October 2018, 09:29
I don't know if this is a good price or not, but wtf is that piece of crap?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1819124014.htm?rsqid=0f822de0d7be47c4b05f68f41ddcb f41

I really like the luggage rack on that tuk tuk. Traditionally I thought they had roofs though?

Ocean1
30th October 2018, 09:42
I really like the luggage rack on that tuk tuk. Traditionally I thought they had roofs though?

I couldn't see the luggage rack past the front guard being too big for the wheel.

Maybe I'm just unusually sensitive to that shit.

sidecar bob
30th October 2018, 09:46
Well, tell him to be more specific about what's been done to the motor - to justify the asking price.

You should paint your rocker covers a stupid colour & sign them, then we could ask crazy money for our bikes you built the engines on.

Voltaire
30th October 2018, 09:47
I don't know if this is a good price or not, but wtf is that piece of crap?



Twin carb twin port engine...1600 is a bit small, needs a set of 90's or 92's

Grumph
30th October 2018, 13:49
You should paint your rocker covers a stupid colour & sign them, then we could ask crazy money for our bikes you built the engines on.

I think Gordy's CBR had six Slick Bass signatures on it - and the guy who'd ported the head had signed and numbered it too.
I suspect an engraving tool is the first thing some guys buy....

Autech
30th October 2018, 15:36
I think Gordy's CBR had six Slick Bass signatures on it - and the guy who'd ported the head had signed and numbered it too.
I suspect an engraving tool is the first thing some guys buy....I do like how Wallace warns that its been heavily modified and to not fuck with it if you don't know what you are doing on the cover. I don't know what I am doing so I will heed his advice.

Seems stupid money is the go for buckets these days regardless of what engine is strapped to it.

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jasonu
30th October 2018, 15:50
I do like how Wallace warns that its been heavily modified and to not fuck with it if you don't know what you are doing on the cover. I don't know what I am doing so I will heed his advice.

Seems stupid money is the go for buckets these days regardless of what engine is strapped to it.

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It depends on what you are trying to achieve and what your build skill level is.
Try building a good reliable race winner for less.

F5 Dave
31st October 2018, 05:59
I don't know if this is a good price or not, but wtf is that piece of crap?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1819124014.htm?rsqid=0f822de0d7be47c4b05f68f41ddcb f41
It really does look like it came from a carnival as a fun ride. Except I can't imagine that would be anything other than inconvenient and certainly not fun.

HenryDorsetCase
31st October 2018, 07:31
I think Gordy's CBR had six Slick Bass signatures on it - and the guy who'd ported the head had signed and numbered it too.
I suspect an engraving tool is the first thing some guys buy....

Is Slick Bass Earl Slick's brother?

did they ever play in the same band? Earl is one of my favourite guitarists of all time.

sidecar bob
31st October 2018, 07:46
Is Slick Bass Earl Slick's brother?

did they ever play in the same band? Earl is one of my favourite guitarists of all time.
Don't think so.
http://www.slickperformance.co.uk/10552.html
I spent two days at his workshop in IOM in August rebuilding a Katana engine.

husaberg
31st October 2018, 07:53
Don't think so.
http://www.slickperformance.co.uk/10552.html
I spent two days at his workshop in IOM in August rebuilding a Katana engine.

Bob can you do me a favour and use you contacts to find out rod sizes for the GS750 1000 and 1100 big end id od c-c length and little end and big end widths
I found some but not all i am looking for the same for the Z7 9 1000 and 1100 all i know is a few details of that.

Voltaire
31st October 2018, 11:22
Trade Me Template I found.


https://www.visordown.com/sites/default/files/field/image/Most%20outragous%20motorcycle%20advert%20on%20the% 20internet.jpg

Scubbo
31st October 2018, 12:10
GOLD!

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Voltaire again."

Voltaire
31st October 2018, 12:45
GOLD!

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Voltaire again."

:niceone:

This one I thought was amusing too.


well the other day the wife was poking around my credit card statement, and said " Motel 6 St. Louis ?!!- what the hell were you doing in st louis !?!!!- and dinner for two ?!! "
I said well um remember that lady from there at the scuba show ...?
she interrupted me and said " Dont give me that another girl bullshit !!! you bought another @#$%&* motorcycle didn't you !?!!! " busted, im in the doghouse big time. now she says sell most of them . of course its immaterial it was a great deal too. sheeesh.

Oakie
3rd November 2018, 13:18
So the time has come. Gotta sell the bike as changes after redundancy mean I just can't afford to keep it as a garage decoration. (Got the company bike for the daily commute so I can't use "I need it for work" as an excuse to keep it.)

About to advertise it on Trade Me but I've copied the advert here too. Really struggled with setting a price. It was hard to get a price that I was comfortable enough to let it go at considering it's condition but also comfortable that I wasn't being stupidly optimistic.

I'd appreciate anyone having a look and giving me an opinion as to the price I set. Be honest. https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/186103-GSR600-for-sale?p=1131114815#post1131114815

F5 Dave
3rd November 2018, 14:11
Doesn't seem totally unrealistic if you expect to get talked down a monkey. I'm not sure what value a monkey is I'd guess 5hundy.
It is 12 yrs old with a bunch of Ks and not a GSXR (read, more people will be searching for one), so might have to see what the market bares out.

sidecar bob
3rd November 2018, 15:30
Bob can you do me a favour and use you contacts to find out rod sizes for the GS750 1000 and 1100 big end id od c-c length and little end and big end widths
I found some but not all i am looking for the same for the Z7 9 1000 and 1100 all i know is a few details of that.

I could walk down to the garage & have a look, but the chair is reclined & the beer is open.
Maybe tomorrow. Stand by your pm folder.:msn-wink:

husaberg
3rd November 2018, 15:37
I could walk down to the garage & have a look, but the chair is reclined & the beer is open.
Maybe tomorrow. Stand by your pm folder.:msn-wink:
Cheers if i have one size of the GS i think i can work out all the rest.
https://www.pro-x.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Connecting_Rod_Dimensions.png
I found a nice write up with all the pics of Pops GS1000 superbike inc frame mods and parts used including the honda and Kawasaki bits needed i will post as a reward

pritch
3rd November 2018, 16:29
Prices are starting to lower, interestingly the new current models are on special around the country - $2-3k off, older ones dropping as well.

The 2019 Bonneville 900 range will have about ten more badly needed ponies than the 2018 version. It would seem Triumph fucked up badly with their 55hp "high torque" (minimal hp) motor.

The 1200 only makes about 78bhp, a considerably less expensive 900 making almost as many ponies would have created a problem, so they crippled the 900. It would seem the market for crippled 900s that run out of puff as soon as you leave the city limits wasn't as large as Triumph imagined.

Oakie
3rd November 2018, 16:52
so might have to see what the market bares out. Part of my problem is that this particular model and year were a grey import so there arent a lot around. Trade Me prices range from $4000 to $7500. Averages out at about $5400 from memory.

Laava
3rd November 2018, 19:28
The 2019 Bonneville 900 range will have about ten more badly needed ponies than the 2018 version. It would seem Triumph fucked up badly with their 55hp "high torque" (minimal hp) motor.

The 1200 only makes about 78bhp, a considerably less expensive 900 making almost as many ponies would have created a problem, so they crippled the 900. It would seem the market for crippled 900s that run out of puff as soon as you leave the city limits wasn't as large as Triumph imagined.
Having ridden one of the earlier Speedmasters, I struggled to see why anyone would buy one. But then it has Triumph on the tank and some people can't help themselves.

Drew
3rd November 2018, 22:45
Looks like 4 grand to me. Mate has a couple of them (yeah, I don't know why), they're worth fuck all second hand

Drew
3rd November 2018, 22:46
So the time has come. Gotta sell the bike as changes after redundancy mean I just can't afford to keep it as a garage decoration. (Got the company bike for the daily commute so I can't use "I need it for work" as an excuse to keep it.)

About to advertise it on Trade Me but I've copied the advert here too. Really struggled with setting a price. It was hard to get a price that I was comfortable enough to let it go at considering it's condition but also comfortable that I wasn't being stupidly optimistic.

I'd appreciate anyone having a look and giving me an opinion as to the price I set. Be honest. https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/186103-GSR600-for-sale?p=1131114815#post1131114815
Apply this quote to my previous post. Fuck knows how I cocked that up

Drew
3rd November 2018, 22:49
The 2019 Bonneville 900 range will have about ten more badly needed ponies than the 2018 version. It would seem Triumph fucked up badly with their 55hp "high torque" (minimal hp) motor.

The 1200 only makes about 78bhp, a considerably less expensive 900 making almost as many ponies would have created a problem, so they crippled the 900. It would seem the market for crippled 900s that run out of puff as soon as you leave the city limits wasn't as large as Triumph imagined.
Enfield do better than this these days. Triumph have dropped the ball something fierce.

pritch
4th November 2018, 09:13
Enfield do better than this these days. Triumph have dropped the ball something fierce.

In 2018 any water cooled 900 should be capable of 100 bhp without problems. At 55 bhp they are taking the piss.

jellywrestler
4th November 2018, 09:51
Enfield do better than this these days. Triumph have dropped the ball something fierce.

they did well with the Herald, they're going up in value each year Drew.

F5 Dave
4th November 2018, 15:48
In 2018 any water cooled 900 should be capable of 100 bhp without problems. At 55 bhp they are taking the piss.
Well the Evo 1340 used to make 53hp so maybe that's all the market expects?

Voltaire
4th November 2018, 16:24
In 2018 any water cooled 900 should be capable of 100 bhp without problems. At 55 bhp they are taking the piss.

55 BHP is my happy place, I like going up and down the box and the rev range and releasing lots of sound.:laugh:

One of those new 650 Enfields would be fun.

Ocean1
4th November 2018, 16:31
One of those new 650 Enfields would be fun.

Are they still made out of cheese or have they discovered actual metal nowadays?

AllanB
4th November 2018, 16:50
In 1982 I purchased new a Kawasaki 750 twin from Norjos in Christchurch. Now I distinctly remember a sticker under the seat stating 55hp.

I really struggle with the concept that another 2018 900cc twin cylinder, water cooled, modern engine 36 years later makes the same power!

And the Kawasaki had a dry weight of 205kg - the current T100 (900cc) dry weight is listed as 213 kg.

pete376403
4th November 2018, 17:12
Are they still made out of cheese or have they discovered actual metal nowadays?

Indium - closely related to Chinesium

Grumph
4th November 2018, 18:28
Well the Evo 1340 used to make 53hp so maybe that's all the market expects?

Did you realise they made a model for the Swiss market - with 28hp.....

Voltaire
4th November 2018, 19:41
Are they still made out of cheese or have they discovered actual metal nowadays?

That explains the mice following me around the Taj Mahal that time I road around Rajasthan.

F5 Dave
4th November 2018, 19:59
Did you realise they made a model for the Swiss market - with 28hp.....
Did you realise arseless chaps baddies wear are for functional reasons?

F5 Dave
4th November 2018, 20:02
I remember a mate showing up on one of these new. Mind blown. Took it for a ride. Wow.

Not really for this thread but thought I'd share.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1825896512.htm?rsqid=48769c2cc0cf4557a136d05067529 584

F5 Dave
4th November 2018, 20:04
Took one of these for a ride.
Mind sent to sleep. Shitbox.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1818591457.htm?rsqid=48769c2cc0cf4557a136d05067529 584

F5 Dave
4th November 2018, 20:08
Look at this turd sticking to the side of the bowl.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1823484783.htm?rsqid=e18b1dd0bfbe417db6813742ec0b8 809

OddDuck
4th November 2018, 22:13
Took one of these for a ride.
Mind sent to sleep. Shitbox.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1818591457.htm?rsqid=48769c2cc0cf4557a136d05067529 584

Harsh but probably fair, mine never missed a beat for 10 years plus but then again it never did anything dramatic or exciting either. 5K... yeah that's reaching.

F5 Dave
5th November 2018, 06:08
With less alcohol in the veins, yes, that was harsh. It was a thoroughly Honda inoffensive appliance. 5k is the offensive bit.

sidecar bob
5th November 2018, 08:24
Did you realise they made a model for the Swiss market - with 28hp.....

How did they even manage to achieve that?
6mm penny washers in the inlet manifold?

pritch
5th November 2018, 08:37
Took one of these for a ride.
Mind sent to sleep. Shitbox.


Seems harsh. There's a motorbike mechanic, a good one, who used one of those a commuter for years. OK for a mixture of rural and city roads - if you aren't in a hurry.

OK and now I've seen your later comment. :yes:

jellywrestler
5th November 2018, 08:58
Seems harsh. he thinks he's the Simon Cowell of motorcycle assessments...

Banditbandit
5th November 2018, 10:27
Look at this turd sticking to the side of the bowl.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1823484783.htm?rsqid=e18b1dd0bfbe417db6813742ec0b8 809


$24 grand ???? Tell 'im he's deaming



Harsh but probably fair, mine never missed a beat for 10 years plus but then again it never did anything dramatic or exciting either. 5K... yeah that's reaching.

Yeah - that about it - a good reliable bike - but hardly an exciting bike ..

Fresh Oats
5th November 2018, 11:09
$24 grand ???? Tell 'im he's deaming




Yeah - that about it - a good reliable bike - but hardly an exciting bike ..

It's got the word "Harley Davidson" printed on the side of the tank so you can charge $15k more than what it's actually worth.

Fresh Oats
5th November 2018, 11:23
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1820631275.htm?rsqid=6c6fca7b891941d6838082a25d412 a4a

Why the fuck would you spend $8,000 on this when you could just get a brand new 300cc Kawasaki or Honda or something for the same price?

malcy25
5th November 2018, 11:31
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1820631275.htm?rsqid=6c6fca7b891941d6838082a25d412 a4a

Why the fuck would you spend $8,000 on this when you could just get a brand new 300cc Kawasaki or Honda or something for the same price?

Ever ridden a good two stroke?

pritch
5th November 2018, 11:33
Why the fuck would you spend $8,000 on this when you could just get a brand new 300cc Kawasaki or Honda or something for the same price?

Ahh Grasshopper, there are those hereabout who do understand what is desirable about that. Not sure about the price but it's cheaper than a nice Aprilia RS250 would be. These things can be like little jewels and are not for the likes of thee.

Autech
5th November 2018, 12:03
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1820631275.htm?rsqid=6c6fca7b891941d6838082a25d412 a4a

Why the fuck would you spend $8,000 on this when you could just get a brand new 300cc Kawasaki or Honda or something for the same price?

Why would you? Hmmm I dunno but something about ringing dings. Oh and resale value this will only go in one direction...

339389


Ahh Grasshopper, there are those hereabout who do understand what is desirable about that. Not sure about the price but it's cheaper than a nice Aprilia RS250 would be. These things can be like little jewels and are not for the likes of thee.

Wise you are old one, can I rub your head for luck?

Drew
5th November 2018, 12:03
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1820631275.htm?rsqid=6c6fca7b891941d6838082a25d412 a4a

Why the fuck would you spend $8,000 on this when you could just get a brand new 300cc Kawasaki or Honda or something for the same price?
Because this is twice the bike, but not learner legal.

malcy25
5th November 2018, 14:42
Because this is twice the bike, but not learner legal.

I once heard the following description
The 4 stroke is the wife, the 2 stroke is the Mistress!

Lol....have raced EX300, R3 and TZR250 (1KT), 30 years apart! The first too a certainly amusing to ride, but ain't nothing like a 2 stroke on the pipe (except things that make boost!)

sidecar bob
5th November 2018, 15:33
Ever ridden a good two stroke?

Kind of like a four stroke, but with a big part of the rev range where it doesn't really work properly.:facepalm:

malcy25
5th November 2018, 16:19
Kind of like a four stroke, but with a big part of the rev range where it doesn't really work properly.:facepalm:

Ahhh, but when it does.....:2thumbsup

You forgot all the deadweight, thrashing of metal and needing to be twice the capacity for the same powerl!

My never ending quest....to always be in the good bit and make it wider...

sidecar bob
5th November 2018, 16:26
Ahhh, but when it does.....:2thumbsup

You forgot all the deadweight, thrashing of metal and needing to be twice the capacity for the same powerl!

My never ending quest....to always be in the good bit and make it wider...

The thrashing of well lubricated metal?
I blame Robbie Dean for raising me on inline four stroke Suzuki four's, to the point that I really don't get V4 Hondas either.

malcy25
5th November 2018, 16:36
The thrashing of well lubricated metal?
I blame Robbie Dean for raising me on inline four stroke Suzuki four's, to the point that I really don't get V4 Hondas either.

I must have been in a slightly parallel universe, Yamaha TZ's in the house when I was 14!

Oakie
5th November 2018, 16:50
Looks like 4 grand to me. Mate has a couple of them (yeah, I don't know why), they're worth fuck all second hand

It has occured to me that if I don't get a reasonable offer for the GSR600 could just not relicence it and cancel the insurance and keep it as a garage decoration in case finances improve. All I'm really trying to do is stop it costing us more when it's not being used.

sidecar bob
5th November 2018, 16:58
It has occured to me that if I don't get a reasonable offer for the GSR600 could just not relicence it and cancel the insurance and keep it as a garage decoration in case finances improve. All I'm really trying to do is stop it costing us more when it's not being used.

Put it on a battery tender, rego on hold, cover it up with a double bed sheet & do tyre pressures & a lap of the block monthly.
Once it's gone, it's gone & along with that your motorcycling future.

F5 Dave
5th November 2018, 17:30
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1820631275.htm?rsqid=6c6fca7b891941d6838082a25d412 a4a

Why the fuck would you spend $8,000 on this when you could just get a brand new 300cc Kawasaki or Honda or something for the same price?
Well as above it will make the 300 seem like a commuter compared with a fairly highly specd Sportbike for the super competitive Jap home market. Derestriction will see 60hp and awesome handling.

The engine was based on the TZ racer and you can actually utilise the cases for a cut price spare TZ engine.

That said there are at least 3 models of increasing trickness and this is the lowest spec if I read it right. So yeah overpriced but won't get any cheaper as years go by.

sidecar bob
5th November 2018, 17:44
Well as above it will make the 300 seem like a commuter compared with a fairly highly specd Sportbike for the super competitive Jap home market. Derestriction will see 60hp and awesome handling.

The engine was based on the TZ racer and you can actually utilise the cases for a cut price spare TZ engine.

That said there are at least 3 models of increasing trickness and this is the lowest spec if I read it right. So yeah overpriced but won't get any cheaper as years go by.

Most Jap two stroke street bikes currently cost as many pounds in the UK as they do NZ dollars here.
You can damn near double your money exporting them at the mo.

WALRUS
5th November 2018, 17:48
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1820631275.htm?rsqid=6c6fca7b891941d6838082a25d412 a4a

Why the fuck would you spend $8,000 on this when you could just get a brand new 300cc Kawasaki or Honda or something for the same price?

Again, I find myself thinking that Fresh Oats is a regular trolling us.. You always seem to find exactly the wrong thing to say, kiddo

babysteps
5th November 2018, 19:41
What.... the.... fuck!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1818782290.htm?rsqid=22de0cccc7524c1699826a9ad696a de9

Honest Andy
5th November 2018, 19:52
What.... the.... fuck!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1818782290.htm?rsqid=22de0cccc7524c1699826a9ad696a de9

How to make a big bike look small....
I'm sure it goes ok, so long as you don't expect too much from the Hagon shock
but christ, he could've cleaned it!

pritch
5th November 2018, 20:17
but christ, he could've cleaned it!

I was thinking it looked as if he'd been using it on the farm.

Mike.Gayner
6th November 2018, 07:41
What.... the.... fuck!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1818782290.htm?rsqid=22de0cccc7524c1699826a9ad696a de9

lol a man can dream I suppose.

HenryDorsetCase
6th November 2018, 10:59
lol a man can dream I suppose.

I quite like that.

babysteps
6th November 2018, 11:31
The bike or the quote?

HenryDorsetCase
6th November 2018, 12:21
The bike or the quote?

the bike. ten characters

babysteps
6th November 2018, 17:35
Are you high?

YellowDog
6th November 2018, 17:43
What.... the.... fuck!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1818782290.htm?rsqid=22de0cccc7524c1699826a9ad696a de9

I quite like this offering.

I believe the seller considers it to have been cleaned, prior to listing.

I'd go to $5k for it, perhaps $6k, if the seller had bothered to make it look as good as it could :yes:

babysteps
6th November 2018, 17:53
Ya see, this is exactly what this thread is about, I'd probably go to 5k for it too but this Cockholster wants twice that.

FJRider
6th November 2018, 18:07
Ya see, this is exactly what this thread is about, I'd probably go to 5k for it too but this Cockholster wants twice that.

Expecting to get a (the ??) return of the money spent ... when you rebuild or "improve" (then sell) a motorcycle.

The question of the "value" of such work to a prospective buyer needs to be asked. Best done prior to the work being done. But (in my opinion) not doing the work with the intention of selling it ... to get a better sale price ...

YellowDog
6th November 2018, 19:00
Expecting to get a (the ??) return of the money spent ... when you rebuild or "improve" (then sell) a motorcycle.

The question of the "value" of such work to a prospective buyer needs to be asked. Best done prior to the work being done. But (in my opinion) not doing the work with the intention of selling it ... to get a better sale price ...

I was in the UK last year and looked at a few classic do ups. You could get bikes and cars, that have had $20-$30k spent on them and are 90% complete, for under $10k (<£5k). You do it for the love, not the money and you only sell, because you will lose the love of your life, if you don't.

Such project for a return are doomed to fail :o

Autech
6th November 2018, 19:29
Expecting to get a (the ??) return of the money spent ... when you rebuild or "improve" (then sell) a motorcycle.

The question of the "value" of such work to a prospective buyer needs to be asked. Best done prior to the work being done. But (in my opinion) not doing the work with the intention of selling it ... to get a better sale price ...Hair hair

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russd7
6th November 2018, 19:39
Hair hair

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splitting hairs?

pritch
6th November 2018, 20:00
Hair hair


You called?

Fresh Oats
7th November 2018, 07:25
What.... the.... fuck!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1818782290.htm?rsqid=22de0cccc7524c1699826a9ad696a de9

I do rather like R100's. I mean, not $13K enough of a like, but still.
The fairings this guy has though... wtf was he thinking? Remove all the fairing, slap on a bobber seat on it, some low drag handlebars, some better pipes and it'll look 1000x better. (or just leave it stock)
Oh, and give it a wash as others have said.

Autech
7th November 2018, 07:49
You called?

SO MUCH HAIR! Imagine if Donald Trump and Peter Dun got together in the same room, the world would explode.


I do rather like R100's. I mean, not $13K enough of a like, but still.
The fairings this guy has though... wtf was he thinking? Remove all the fairing, slap on a bobber seat on it, some low drag handlebars, some better pipes and it'll look 1000x better. (or just leave it stock)
Oh, and give it a wash as others have said.

I love how he mentions "matching numbers" after listing all the mods to it. I think someone doesn't understand the concept

Banditbandit
7th November 2018, 11:20
What.... the.... fuck!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1818782290.htm?rsqid=22de0cccc7524c1699826a9ad696a de9

It's nice - but half the price nice ..

Symahn
8th November 2018, 19:59
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1823612166

So I went and had a look at this this afternoon. Long story short, avoid any bike this POS advertises.

He wasn't there when I looked, his mrs showed me the bike and said to call him with any questions. The bike has clearly been dropped on it's right side - has damage to swing arm and a shit cover up on the frame, new brake lever (didn't replace the clutch to match..), DIY reservoir bracket, new bar ends etc. The mrs stated old mate 'does fairings on bikes' and had put the fairings on this one but wouldn't/couldn't say much more.

So I phoned him up to ask. Didn't answer. He rings back once I've left. I asked if it's been dropped and he gives a wishy washy answer and mentions the fairings look like it may have been. 'Well your mrs just said you put the fairings on this bike'. 'Ohh ummmmm yeah actualy I did.... he says.' I gave him a mouthful and hung up.

I'm near positive I've seen similar bikes on TM from this guy, so buyer beware.. :facepalm:

neels
8th November 2018, 20:31
I'm near positive I've seen similar bikes on TM from this guy, so buyer beware.. :facepalm:
Same guy is also trying to sell a GN125 for $3k, it's already been pointed out in the Q&A that brand new is $2495+ORC.....:facepalm::facepalm:

Fresh Oats
9th November 2018, 07:50
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1823612166

So I went and had a look at this this afternoon. Long story short, avoid any bike this POS advertises.

He wasn't there when I looked, his mrs showed me the bike and said to call him with any questions. The bike has clearly been dropped on it's right side - has damage to swing arm and a shit cover up on the frame, new brake lever (didn't replace the clutch to match..), DIY reservoir bracket, new bar ends etc. The mrs stated old mate 'does fairings on bikes' and had put the fairings on this one but wouldn't/couldn't say much more.

So I phoned him up to ask. Didn't answer. He rings back once I've left. I asked if it's been dropped and he gives a wishy washy answer and mentions the fairings look like it may have been. 'Well your mrs just said you put the fairings on this bike'. 'Ohh ummmmm yeah actualy I did.... he says.' I gave him a mouthful and hung up.

I'm near positive I've seen similar bikes on TM from this guy, so buyer beware.. :facepalm:

Is it illegal to not disclose that sort of information?

I'd suggest putting your 'question' on the new listing when he relists it too.

Symahn
9th November 2018, 08:05
Is it illegal to not disclose that sort of information?

I'd suggest putting your 'question' on the new listing when he relists it too.

I'm not sure how it works being a private sale. You'd think there might be some sort of obligation to be honest though.

Oh yeah I'm keeping an eye out for sure.

AllanB
9th November 2018, 09:47
Is it illegal to not disclose that sort of information?



Buyer beware on used goods off TM private sellers.

A licensed dealer has all types of legalities to comply with.

Autech
9th November 2018, 09:56
I would say that unless they say "Never been dropped" in their title they don't have to mention it.
This is why we need to check out bikes as thoroughly as possibly before purchasing. Sounds like you did that and have found it to have some questionable repairs, though a few scratches on the swing arm and a different lever aren't exactly uncommon on a motorcycle.

Did you lowball him? I would have lol. Hate it when pricks try to lie.

AllanB
9th November 2018, 11:28
Did you lowball him? I would have lol. Hate it when pricks try to lie.


I was talking to a motorcycle delivery person months back by chance. He said it is always interesting watching peoples faces when he unloads their purchase - some rides are immaculate, some rubbish.

Drew
10th November 2018, 06:27
Rrrrrrrrriiiiight. This is a 19 year old bike, that wasn't anything special when it was new. What the fuck am I missing here?

sidecar bob
10th November 2018, 08:42
Rrrrrrrrriiiiight. This is a 19 year old bike, that wasn't anything special when it was new. What the fuck am I missing here?

An attachment I can enlarge?

husaberg
10th November 2018, 08:50
An attachment I can enlarge?
Click on it three times

sidecar bob
10th November 2018, 09:21
Not a bike, but look what that car I sold you is worth now Drew.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1488853788.htm?rsqid=04b7f5f60966427ab759250a42a10 459
I assume you still have Doug for four?

pritch
10th November 2018, 09:58
Not a bike, but look what that car I sold you is worth now Drew.


"This car looks like it just rolled out of the factory."

They don't roll out of the factory with headlights like that. (OK, I polished mine and now I'm a headlight snob.) :whistle:

HenryDorsetCase
10th November 2018, 10:58
I've got this thing for two door E30's. Ever since watching the Wellington Street race all those years ago when they dusted all the taxis. Good times - Walkinshaw Jags and the Bimmers and so forth.

sidecar bob
10th November 2018, 11:52
I've got this thing for two door E30's. Ever since watching the Wellington Street race all those years ago when they dusted all the taxis. Good times - Walkinshaw Jags and the Bimmers and so forth.

When John Sax put Tony Longhurst into the wall?
I visited Sax's E30 M3 in a paddock at a Kiwifruit orchard near Tauranga, in a bit of a sad state a few years ago.
Still in Blue Star office products livery.
It was a proper group A touring car version.
I had number of serious attempts to buy it off him as it was, but was never successful.

jasonu
10th November 2018, 12:46
When John Sax put Tony Longhurst into the wall?
I visited Sax's E30 M3 in a paddock at a Kiwifruit orchard near Tauranga, in a bit of a sad state a few years ago.
Still in Blue Star office products livery.
It was a proper group A touring car version.
I had number of serious attempts to buy it off him as it was, but was never successful.

He very nearly did the exact same thing to Peter Brock the next year.

Drew
10th November 2018, 13:25
Not a bike, but look what that car I sold you is worth now Drew.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1488853788.htm?rsqid=04b7f5f60966427ab759250a42a10 459
I assume you still have Doug for four?
Christ. That's mint and all, but...

Yep, still got Dug.

YellowDog
10th November 2018, 16:11
Not a bike, but look what that car I sold you is worth now Drew.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1488853788.htm?rsqid=04b7f5f60966427ab759250a42a10 459
I assume you still have Doug for four?

I remember that car coming through the Jap auctions. I think he paid around $6k for it. I was interested up to about $4.5k. How does he know it's been garaged all its life?

At 20 years old, there are a number of parts that will already be bio degrading.

Takin'kin'piss :yes:

AllanB
11th November 2018, 21:08
At 20 years old, there are a number of parts that will already be bio degrading.


I was wondering about potential issues with a 20 year old BMW that has had F-all use.

Drew
12th November 2018, 05:22
I was wondering about potential issues with a 20 year old BMW that has had F-all use.

Oil level sensor. No issue, pressure one is seperate.

Cam cover seals.

Fuel pressure reg.

Issues I've had that being used or not would likely still happen.

Parts are cheap and easily sourced for E46 beemers.

sidecar bob
12th November 2018, 06:40
I was wondering about potential issues with a 20 year old BMW that has had F-all use.

It would be a lot less issues than one that's had a pile of use that's for sure.






Hi Trevor.

OddDuck
12th November 2018, 07:24
I like low k's as much as anyone else but this is just silly

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1828276598.htm?rsqid=f651ecb8cf5446e2a7c986207afd4 b63

What is the buyer supposed to do, put it into an argon purged glass case as an object'd'wank?

HenryDorsetCase
12th November 2018, 09:13
I like low k's as much as anyone else but this is just silly

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1828276598.htm?rsqid=f651ecb8cf5446e2a7c986207afd4 b63

What is the buyer supposed to do, put it into an argon purged glass case as an object'd'wank?

speaking of which............

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1747329549.htm?rsqid=ac4cd70d06df4eb5bffec7297f2c1 c21

Autech
12th November 2018, 09:19
speaking of which............

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1747329549.htm?rsqid=ac4cd70d06df4eb5bffec7297f2c1 c21

I guessing that would hold it's value better than the other one with it's collector appeal?

Voltaire
12th November 2018, 10:28
[QUOTE=Autech;1131115774]I guessing that would hold it's value better than the other one with it's collector appeal?[/QUOTE

Can they spare us the advertising claptrap about overseas prices, love it to stay here long time etc. trade me is drowning in a sea of older Ducati’s that judging by the use were not a good buyers choice and only point of difference is the usual limited edition or mint ness. 🙄

HenryDorsetCase
12th November 2018, 12:05
[QUOTE=Autech;1131115774]I guessing that would hold it's value better than the other one with it's collector appeal?[/QUOTE

Can they spare us the advertising claptrap about overseas prices, love it to stay here long time etc. trade me is drowning in a sea of older Ducati’s that judging by the use were not a good buyers choice and only point of difference is the usual limited edition or mint ness. 🙄

I happened to be reading an issue of "Classic Bike" this morning on the bog (honestly my favourite time of most days) and it was a comparison of the RC30 Honda and the 851 and I idly thought "how much is an 851"??

now I know....

F5 Dave
12th November 2018, 12:12
Met a chap on our travels with one of those styley floating seat Vespas. Battery is flat, 7kms. Guess this is just how these things happen. He just bought it cause he liked the look of it. Sure at a much less value, but seeing his holiday home I don't think the sticker value had much consequence on the decision. Who knows what he has put away at his other places.

Banditbandit
12th November 2018, 13:21
Rrrrrrrrriiiiight. This is a 19 year old bike, that wasn't anything special when it was new. What the fuck am I missing here?

But it's 19 years old - almost a classic - add $2grand

It's Yamaha R - yanow like the R1 .. add $2grand.


I like low k's as much as anyone else but this is just silly

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1828276598.htm?rsqid=f651ecb8cf5446e2a7c986207afd4 b63

What is the buyer supposed to do, put it into an argon purged glass case as an object'd'wank?

Yes - that is exactly what you are supposed to do .. for that price you're not seriously going to ride it are you?

It's not a motorcycle - t's a collector's investment

jasonu
12th November 2018, 14:51
speaking of which............

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1747329549.htm?rsqid=ac4cd70d06df4eb5bffec7297f2c1 c21

In the q&a when sellers say things like 'from what I recall' or 'to the best of my knowledge' I get suspicious.

Drew
12th November 2018, 15:41
I like low k's as much as anyone else but this is just silly

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1828276598.htm?rsqid=f651ecb8cf5446e2a7c986207afd4 b63

What is the buyer supposed to do, put it into an argon purged glass case as an object'd'wank?

Actually, that's essentially a 999. Consider it rocking horse shit.

Drew
12th November 2018, 15:45
I fucken hate Ducatis fellas, but ya'll seem to struggle recognizing bikes that are actually worth money.

Prolly a fucken good job yer not selling something.

Autech
12th November 2018, 16:10
I fucken hate Ducatis fellas, but ya'll seem to struggle recognizing bikes that are actually worth money.

Prolly a fucken good job yer not selling something.

Consider me confused, which of those Ducati's are worth what they're asking? Any why?

sidecar bob
12th November 2018, 16:19
Consider me confused, which of those Ducati's are worth what they're asking? Any why?

Fuckin count me in
Do we have to pay extra for unreliability & dodgy & expensive parts supply these days?

jasonu
12th November 2018, 17:01
Fuckin count me in
Do we have to pay extra for unreliability & dodgy & expensive parts supply these days?

In NZ you do.

husaberg
12th November 2018, 17:07
In NZ you do.
He wasnt talking about Chryslers or Harley Davidson or John Deere

Drew
12th November 2018, 17:10
Consider me confused, which of those Ducati's are worth what they're asking? Any why?

Try finding another one of the 999 powered 998 bikes. Dunno what it's actually worth, but they are fucken scarce.

sidecar bob
12th November 2018, 17:23
Try finding another one of the 999 powered 998 bikes. Dunno what it's actually worth, but they are fucken scarce.

So scarce there's one under a sheet at my workshop.
Got Matrix Reloaded on the side. What's that mean?





Hi Trevor

Drew
12th November 2018, 17:52
So scarce there's one under a sheet at my workshop.
Got Matrix Reloaded on the side. What's that mean?





Hi Trevor
No no. Those heaps of shit are lower spec than the standard triple 9. The one offered for sale is 916 shape, but a factory modified bike to take the testastretta motor.

pritch
12th November 2018, 18:07
There was a time everybody thought they had a rare Ducati because some part of other was "non-standard". In reality the problem was that Ducati were broke and they were using bits from whoever would supply them stuff on credit.

Things have improved greatly in recent years, long may it continue.

F5 Dave
12th November 2018, 18:50
So scarce there's one under a sheet at my workshop.
Got Matrix Reloaded on the side. What's that mean?





Hi Trevor
Depends if was the actual one that chick sat on. They did her real well, sort of average in dirty scungy reality, but somehow smoking hot otherwise.

Sorry, what were we talking about?

Drew
12th November 2018, 18:56
There was a time everybody though they had a rare Ducati because some part of other was "non-standard". In reality the problem was that Ducati were broke and they were using bits from whoever would supply them stuff on credit.

Things have improved greatly in recent years, long may it continue.

I lose my shit at the tards who think a number badge on a triple clamp means anything on a Ducati.
It's as special as a fucking repeal blade arsehole!

That Duke is different.

sidecar bob
12th November 2018, 19:43
I lose my shit at the tards who think a number badge on a triple clamp means anything on a Ducati.
It's as special as a fucking repeal blade arsehole!

That Duke is different.

It falls into the same category as a vehicle that once belonged to any certain noteworthy person.
Unless said celebrity comes free with the car to wash & polish it every weekend I fail to see any added value.

jellywrestler
12th November 2018, 20:07
It falls into the same category as a vehicle that once belonged to any certain noteworthy person.
Unless said celebrity comes free with the car to wash & polish it every weekend I fail to see any added value.

yeah kiwis don't, but any bike that is ex steve mcqueen is worth about 75% more than a similar one with no names.

jellywrestler
12th November 2018, 20:08
So scarce there's one under a sheet at my workshop.
Got Matrix Reloaded on the side. What's that mean?


nothing really

nzspokes
12th November 2018, 20:53
Rrrrrrrrriiiiight. This is a 19 year old bike, that wasn't anything special when it was new. What the fuck am I missing here?

If Aden says its tidy then it will be. 5k doesnt seem unreasonable.

AllanB
12th November 2018, 21:30
I lose my shit at the tards who think a number badge on a triple clamp means anything on a Ducati.
It's as special as a fucking repeal blade arsehole!

That Duke is different.

I may order a number badge for my Ducati - going to go for 001, as it's my first Ducati. Instantly add $5k to the asking price.

Amazes me the low kms on many on TM, barely ridden 10-20 year old bikes.

Redbook says that 998s was $43k new.

jasonu
13th November 2018, 03:36
yeah kiwis don't, but any bike that is ex steve mcqueen is worth about 75% more than a similar one with no names.

Not to mention his Ferrari ( or just about anything else he owned for that matter) that was sold a while back at well over the regular price.
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-2014-pebble-beach-mcqueen-ferrari-sold-20140812-story.html

bistard
13th November 2018, 06:40
I like low k's as much as anyone else but this is just silly

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1828276598.htm?rsqid=f651ecb8cf5446e2a7c986207afd4 b63

What is the buyer supposed to do, put it into an argon purged glass case as an object'd'wank?

I stored this bike for the first owner, he purchased it & a truck load of really trick extras, went overseas for a number of years, was in his brothers office on display for years
I was asked to sell it, put it on ebay & had heap of interest, but fell over as with the emission laws in the US, had to be started & run, which would ruin the patina of the bike, being possibly the only brand new example in the world, has never had a battery or fuel in it

pritch
13th November 2018, 07:41
Steve McQueen basically had his own museum and when the bikes were auctioned off most fetched good prices. It was a mistake to think that if you had a 1927 Harley it was worth what someone paid for his. That was in the mid 70s though so inflation will have corrected that now.

Fresh Oats
13th November 2018, 08:45
It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

It is a shame though when you see a bike that's basically not a motorbike but just an expensive piece of artwork.
My local barber, I was noticing yesterday, has a very tidy (minus the dust) BSA in his shop. Just sitting there. Not even front and center, it's in the back corner. It irks me.

sidecar bob
13th November 2018, 08:48
It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

It is a shame though when you see a bike that's basically not a motorbike but just an expensive piece of artwork.
My local barber, I was noticing yesterday, has a very tidy (minus the dust) BSA in his shop. Just sitting there. Not even front and center, it's in the back corner. It irks me.

As artwork goes, it's not very expensive.
Compared to a print from The Warehouse maybe, but not on the grand scale.

Autech
13th November 2018, 09:02
It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

It is a shame though when you see a bike that's basically not a motorbike but just an expensive piece of artwork.
My local barber, I was noticing yesterday, has a very tidy (minus the dust) BSA in his shop. Just sitting there. Not even front and center, it's in the back corner. It irks me.

I guess the engine oil would mix in with the beard oil on the floor? :D


As artwork goes, it's not very expensive.
Compared to a print from The Warehouse maybe, but not on the grand scale.

Pretty much, I have a piece of art work on my wall which was a few grand when we bought it, it's lovely and takes up a fuck tonne less space than a Ducati would. Maybe one day it may be worth similar money to the Ducati? Maybe one day it will get thrown out when we die... I don't really care as I like it so it's staying on that wall.
I'd think long term buying normal art would be a better investment though, takes up less room and has the chance of blowing up in value if the artist gets shot or whatever.

Oscar
13th November 2018, 09:16
It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

It is a shame though when you see a bike that's basically not a motorbike but just an expensive piece of artwork.
My local barber, I was noticing yesterday, has a very tidy (minus the dust) BSA in his shop. Just sitting there. Not even front and center, it's in the back corner. It irks me.

That guy is a pretentious dick.

WALRUS
13th November 2018, 09:25
I'm not a huge fan of the Testastretta engine, I prefer my old Desmoquattro, and I prefer the fairings on the 916/996 compared to the 998. That said, if I had $30k, I'd be all over that FE. I reckon it'd be a great investment, especially with only "2" kms on it.

Autech
13th November 2018, 09:30
That guy is a pretentious dick.

He does oil beards for a living...
Bet he owns a Vespa.

jellywrestler
13th November 2018, 09:59
Steve McQueen basically had his own museum and when the bikes were auctioned off most fetched good prices. It was a mistake to think that if you had a 1927 Harley it was worth what someone paid for his. That was in the mid 70s though so inflation will have corrected that now.

mcqueen bikes are still fetching often 80% more then similar....., that auction work the whole world up to motorcycles as investments quite simply....

Drew
13th November 2018, 13:34
I'm not a huge fan of the Testastretta engine, I prefer my old Desmoquattro, and I prefer the fairings on the 916/996 compared to the 998. That said, if I had $30k, I'd be all over that FE. I reckon it'd be a great investment, especially with only "2" kms on it.
Yeah, the better power spread sucks.

Banditbandit
13th November 2018, 15:36
I lose my shit at the tards who think a number badge on a triple clamp means anything on a Ducati.
It's as special as a fucking repeal blade arsehole!

That Duke is different.


I love the look of the 916s - and Dukes do sound awesome ..

But no - I doubt I will ever get one.

jim.cox
13th November 2018, 16:01
I reckon it'd be a great investment, especially with only "2" kms on it.

Fuck that

Bikes are made to be ridden...

OddDuck
13th November 2018, 16:45
Fuck that

Bikes are made to be ridden...

Yes.

I know someone with a Yamaha TZ750 (I think? top end two-stroke racebike) which was assembled from individual parts and display cased. It's never been started. In fact I don't think it's even been turned over. They love it but my reaction is just ?????? Why? Completely mystified.

Yeah I know, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, it's their money etc etc... in my world $30-ish K for a bike which basically can't be used is $30-ish K that could have gone on bikes which can. And tyres. And gas, and food on the road, and nice places to stay, and good gear to ride in... it's summer... want to get out and play.

pritch
13th November 2018, 16:47
It is a shame though when you see a bike that's basically not a motorbike but just an expensive piece of artwork.
My local barber, I was noticing yesterday, has a very tidy (minus the dust) BSA in his shop. Just sitting there. Not even front and center, it's in the back corner. It irks me.

Yeah that does sound sad. I felt differently about that hotel in Wellington (apparently called the QT Wellington these days) that had a lot of artwork including an MV sprotbike and a Harley chopper.

AllanB
13th November 2018, 16:51
That said, if I had $30k, I'd be all over that FE. I reckon it'd be a great investment, especially with only "2" kms on it.

Is it getting old enough to start going up in value?

As I said earlier the book value when new was $43,000 NZ. That value is the equivalent of $64,000 today (Reserve bank calculator).

And it's up for sale today for half that.

That's a very negative investment.

sidecar bob
13th November 2018, 17:18
Is it getting old enough to start going up in value?

As I said earlier the book value when new was $43,000 NZ. That value is the equivalent of $64,000 today (Reserve bank calculator).

And it's up for sale today for half that.

That's a very negative investment.

So if the 'tard that bought it had put a deposit on a rental property absolutely anywhere in NZ instead, he would have 200k he hadn't worked for by now.

AllanB
13th November 2018, 17:28
So if the 'tard that bought it had put a deposit on a rental property absolutely anywhere in NZ instead, he would have 200k he hadn't worked for by now.

That's a very good example of an investment working for you - housing. Bikes, buy because you love them, as a investment you are taking a punt.

Ducati churn out too many 'special' numbered editions, it is rare to see them increase in value from what I see.

The old bevels are really climbing in money now you'd potentially be better putting your $32k into one of them.

HenryDorsetCase
13th November 2018, 18:06
That's a very good example of an investment working for you - housing. Bikes, buy because you love them, as a investment you are taking a punt.

Ducati churn out too many 'special' numbered editions, it is rare to see them increase in value from what I see.

The old bevels are really climbing in money now you'd potentially be better putting your $32k into one of them.

Theres a 900SD on tardme for $17k ..... you could get nearly 2.

jellywrestler
13th November 2018, 18:11
So if the 'tard that bought it had put a deposit on a rental property absolutely anywhere in NZ instead, he would have 200k he hadn't worked for by now.

i've got a shed full of bikes like that, people tell me how good an investment they are but.....
wait till the petrol dissapears, there won't be enough museums to put all the old vehicles in.

sidecar bob
13th November 2018, 18:39
i've got a shed full of bikes like that, people tell me how good an investment they are but.....
wait till the petrol dissapears, there won't be enough museums to put all the old vehicles in.

I've still got space, but only for yellow bikes.:msn-wink:

HenryDorsetCase
13th November 2018, 19:31
i've got a shed full of bikes like that, people tell me how good an investment they are but.....
wait till the petrol dissapears, there won't be enough museums to put all the old vehicles in.

S'OK we'll just convert them like the De Lorean in that well known documentary film:

http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Fusion

jellywrestler
13th November 2018, 19:52
I've still got space, but only for yellow bikes.:msn-wink:

i'll send my R1100s up once i get a new battery.....

Fresh Oats
13th November 2018, 21:51
This guy having a laugh?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1833661249.htm?rsqid=ad848c7c4a8b430d8bf3c51d0287e 239

Sure, it's in basic near-new condition but I'm not paying brand new price for a 2 year old second hand bike... the rego and wof even need renewal this month.


Also, noticed this guy shaved $1.5K off the price when it didn't sell. I wonder how low he'll go.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1832113724.htm?rsqid=de1a44ad09a343b7bf7da834c75d0 1c2

F5 Dave
14th November 2018, 06:03
What's the blue arrow for?
He looks s bit funny too. Think I've seen him on TV as some sort of informant.
At least he kept it longer than HDC:msn-wink:

sidecar bob
14th November 2018, 06:18
This dude has turned dyslexia into an art form.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1376659212.htm?rsqid=bb07e51d450b4872a52f3522e4239 50b

Voltaire
14th November 2018, 06:49
This guy having a laugh?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1833661249.htm?rsqid=ad848c7c4a8b430d8bf3c51d0287e 239

Sure, it's in basic near-new condition but I'm not paying brand new price for a 2 year old second hand bike... the rego and wof even need renewal this month.


Also, noticed this guy shaved $1.5K off the price when it didn't sell. I wonder how low he'll go.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1832113724.htm?rsqid=de1a44ad09a343b7bf7da834c75d0 1c2

probably around 10k, would go well with work done ( by BMW standards). Kane is the man for airheads. Customs are hard to call as you don’t get return on spend.

bistard
14th November 2018, 07:54
Yeah that does sound sad. I felt differently about that hotel in Wellington (apparently called the QT Wellington these days) that had a lot of artwork including an MV sprotbike and a Harley chopper.

I look after the three limited edition MVs & the Chopper for the Hotel, well the previous owner of the Hotel & I start run/ride them about once a month(except the Chopper)

HenryDorsetCase
14th November 2018, 08:53
This guy having a laugh?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1833661249.htm?rsqid=ad848c7c4a8b430d8bf3c51d0287e 239

Sure, it's in basic near-new condition but I'm not paying brand new price for a 2 year old second hand bike... the rego and wof even need renewal this month.



I am terrible with money. Mine was $7995 rideaway and I sold it for $5750 (basically $6k but I agreed to split the shipping with the ORklind buyer).

The interesting thing is I got a safety recall notice from Yamaha NZ last Saturday....

F5 Dave
14th November 2018, 18:02
. . .
The interesting thing is I got a recall notice from Yamaha NZ last Saturday....
Why? Did they want you to repeat the process? ;)

[quote altered in the name of smart alecness]

F5 Dave
14th November 2018, 18:05
This dude has turned dyslexia into an art form.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1376659212.htm?rsqid=bb07e51d450b4872a52f3522e4239 50b
Jesus Have you read the questions/answers? What an invertebrate.

HenryDorsetCase
14th November 2018, 18:37
Why? Did they want you to repeat the process? ;)

[quote altered in the name of smart alecness]

LOLOL - nah something about oil lines and potential leakage.

Laava
14th November 2018, 18:50
Jesus Have you read the questions/answers? What an invertebrate.
This is the same guy that has had his old pushrod two wheeler boat tail for sale since the dawn of trade me for $50k. Similar questions and troglodite answers there as well...

OddDuck
14th November 2018, 20:04
This dude has turned dyslexia into an art form.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1376659212.htm?rsqid=bb07e51d450b4872a52f3522e4239 50b

O is for ORSUM!

... I wonder how he's going with the whole hot skinny women going on rides with him thing..? Photos plz.

AllanB
14th November 2018, 20:38
Jesus Have you read the questions/answers? What an invertebrate.

He's a free spirit having some fun.

F5 Dave
15th November 2018, 06:03
In the wind brother​TM

bungbung
15th November 2018, 13:28
sounds really mean would keep it as it's the only one of these conversions I've seen done

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1837641915.htm?rsqid=9a1907625acb426a83bdab1d1100a 252

Drew
15th November 2018, 13:37
sounds really mean would keep it as it's the only one of these conversions I've seen done

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1837641915.htm?rsqid=9a1907625acb426a83bdab1d1100a 252
Kill it. KILL IT WITH FIRE.

Madness
15th November 2018, 13:45
I just threw up a little bit.

sidecar bob
15th November 2018, 14:37
sounds really mean would keep it as it's the only one of these conversions I've seen done

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1837641915.htm?rsqid=9a1907625acb426a83bdab1d1100a 252

What's going on with the intake & pod filter location?

HenryDorsetCase
15th November 2018, 15:25
What's going on with the intake & pod filter location?

I was just going to ask the same thing. Not only the weird angle but fuel goes down to the carb which is on a weird angle then up the main jet which is pointing backwards then mixes with air then thru the carb, 90 turn then another 90 degrees into the intake port.


edit.... no wait, that's an EFI throttle body so at least the fuel is pressurised. But the long and winding road thing still stands.

It runs well though, apparently.

Mike.Gayner
15th November 2018, 15:45
sounds really mean would keep it as it's the only one of these conversions I've seen done

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1837641915.htm?rsqid=9a1907625acb426a83bdab1d1100a 252

That's the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.

Voltaire
15th November 2018, 16:12
For those who have missed this marketing gem....
BEEN ON 'KIN TM SINZ AGES AGO... :lol:


,this HARLEYS kick start only as these didnt come out with electric start.[but starts easly once u got the nack....] ie;A REAL MANS BIKE!..IE ; IF U CANT KICK IT U DONT RIDE IT....!!!!

may put on ebay later if no interest in new zealand.[ps; the 'FLYING LADY' is going on another bike.] this is kool old skool !!!! ,!!.....shit 91 watchers,.446100 !!!! p s.IM NOT INTERESTED IN YOUR VEIWS..!! KEEP THEM TO UR SELF !!! [or join the others on my BLACKLIST.]
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/132068111.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-887551588.htm?rsqid=c14c6bcfeb34495a9484144cfff3b3 3d

Autech
15th November 2018, 17:06
For those who have missed this marketing gem....
BEEN ON 'KIN TM SINZ AGES AGO... [emoji38]


https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/132068111.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-887551588.htm?rsqid=c14c6bcfeb34495a9484144cfff3b3 3dOh churrr betta throw it up on eeebay eh? These fullas in nz are allll stinnngy cuntz I aks them not to view they view but tooo stingy to pay up.

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AllanB
15th November 2018, 19:33
$50K For That HD ..... makes the $32k Ducati good value.

F5 Dave
15th November 2018, 21:06
He's just a free spirit blah blah:devil2:

Yeah both the triumpf and that Hardley have been done before but worthy winners.

Laava
15th November 2018, 21:31
For those who have missed this marketing gem....
BEEN ON 'KIN TM SINZ AGES AGO... :lol:d (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-887551588.htm?rsqid=c14c6bcfeb34495a9484144cfff3b3 3d)

It appears to be a symphony of mismatched parts. Hard to believe that it is factory produced.

Fresh Oats
16th November 2018, 06:26
For those who have missed this marketing gem....
BEEN ON 'KIN TM SINZ AGES AGO... :lol:


https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/132068111.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-887551588.htm?rsqid=c14c6bcfeb34495a9484144cfff3b3 3d

I guarantee you this guy is on the benefit. (and I'm not talking looking for work on the benefit either, I'm talking career choice on the benefit). Has wild dreams about "being rich when my bike sells". And probably gets all the crap he sells from guys he meets down at the pub thinking he can flip it off on trademe for stupid prices.
Lists job on forms as 'trademe seller'. Sorry, I mean 'trde me cela m8'.

sidecar bob
16th November 2018, 07:56
$50K For That HD ..... makes the $32k Ducati good value.

That's because 32k for the Ducati is good value, wether I like them or not.