Optimistic sellers

[husaberg]

the only Norton I want is a Wankel, because I'm a ......
the only norton wankel i want is a F1

https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Norton-F1.jpg
https://www.classicsuperbikes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Norton-F1-for-sale-9.jpg

[jellywrestler]

I'm sure I saw a Norton Commander rotary at the cold Kiwi many years ago. Anyone else know of it in NZ?

yeah there's a few, there was a brand new one in the manawatu too

[dangerous]

ya know what fucks me off... is new bikes in the CLASSIC AND VINTAGE colum... FFS
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/search?sort_order=expirydesc&user_region=100&bof=yzmwIimr

[jellywrestler]

ya know what fucks me off... is new bikes in the CLASSIC AND VINTAGE colum... FFS
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/search?sort_order=expirydesc&user_region=100&bof=yzmwIimr

trademe gave up years ago on trying to do anything that made their sire user friendly. they are only interested in what they can get the next time they sell the company these days. I have down over 2000 trades, one would think when i log on it will know my preferences, but know, got to tick the boxes every single time.

[Laava]

ya know what fucks me off... is new bikes in the CLASSIC AND VINTAGE colum... FFS
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/search?sort_order=expirydesc&user_region=100&bof=yzmwIimr
Yeah! Fuckers! They should restrict it to air cooled and pushrod or older! Wait, no, that's not right either...

[Drew]

Just, fucken NO!!!

[husaberg]

Why would a 202 need a 9" diff.

[dangerous]

Why would a 202 need a 9" diff.

ummm... helps extend the power from the drive shaft to the wheels I think, some shit like it alters the direction of drive... fucked if I know... turns the wheels perhaps...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Why would a 202 need a 9" diff.

it's "worked.".....

[Grumph]

Why would a 202 need a 9" diff.


the Donovan mentioned in the ad would account for that.
I'd like to know where he got that from too.....

[Kickaha]

I'm sure I saw a Norton Commander rotary at the cold Kiwi many years ago. Anyone else know of it in NZ?

I have a pic I took of one racing at the Sound of Thunder decades ago when at the time I think only the Uk police had them

[pritch]

the Donovan mentioned in the ad would account for that.
I'd like to know where he got that from too.....

I'm innocent of any knowledge of what a Donovan is. There was a Mellow Yellow one a long time ago.

[pete376403]

I'm innocent of any knowledge of what a Donovan is. There was a Mellow Yellow one a long time ago.
Chrysler Hemi V8 aftermarket big block. Usually found in top fuel drag racers. http://donovanengines.com/donovan-417-hemi-aluminum-blocks/

[husaberg]

the Donovan mentioned in the ad would account for that.
I'd like to know where he got that from too.....


I'm innocent of any knowledge of what a Donovan is. There was a Mellow Yellow one a long time ago.


Chrysler Hemi V8 aftermarket big block. Usually found in top fuel drag racers. http://donovanengines.com/donovan-417-hemi-aluminum-blocks/

I had to Google
they do cheve ones as well
http://donovanengines.com/donovan-engineering-small-block-chevys/
which i assume it was refering to?

[Grumph]

There are a few Donovan blocks in NZ. Drag cars and the occasional speedway car with a big budget. The ones that get out into hands like this seller usually have enormous welds where they've lived exciting lives.....

[pritch]

There are a few Donovan blocks in NZ. Drag cars and the occasional speedway car with a big budget. The ones that get out into hands like this seller usually have enormous welds where they've lived exciting lives.....

This reminded me of something. An old dude I met on the Internet, a friend of a friend, he'd been a pilot with the Flying Tigers in China during WW2. Post war he worked as an engineer with Reynolds aluminium. Back when the CanAm series was the Bruce and Denny show he got to do laps at one of the American tracks in a Can Am car with Denny Hulme at the wheel. He was impressed. The McLaren blocks were made of, or by, Reynolds.

[Beekeeper]

Managed to sell my GN250 for $2400. I wonder if I'd chopped it up, rattlecanned the tank matt clack and stuck some exhaust wrap on it I'd have got more?

My wifes GN sat outside under the firewood awning for 3 years, rusting away. I thought I would cafe it as a fun little winter project. Brown seat-check, rattle can black- check, various ali express crap- check...... ran out of steam as the futility got to me. Sold it on TM, got to 900 under bidding, when the buyer turned up I was so embarrassed that I said 500 will do...

[Stylo]

My wifes GN sat outside under the firewood awning for 3 years, rusting away. I thought I would cafe it as a fun little winter project. Brown seat-check, rattle can black- check, various ali express crap- check...... ran out of steam as the futility got to me. Sold it on TM, got to 900 under bidding, when the buyer turned up I was so embarrassed that I said 500 will do...

I often wondered about buying a GN250 new back in the day when I heard they were stopping making them and storing it away, if it would be deemed a collectible bike now, moreover what it's market value would be now.

[dangerous]

I often wondered about buying a GN250 new back in the day when I heard they were stopping making them and storing it away, if it would be deemed a collectible bike now, moreover what it's market value would be now.
its a fucking GN250...

[F5 Dave]

Wait for the last GSXR750 maybe. . .

But Road-Lice? Jezuz!

[jellywrestler]

Wait for the last GSXR750 maybe. . .

But Road-Lice? Jezuz!

what about the army indian, morros minor, bsa bantam, vespa etc. a lot of it is about nostalgia, not perceived investement value

[F5 Dave]

The army Indian, whilst being mass produced antiquitie , would have held a place in history for those entwined in the scope of war.
The Morris Minor, because the English like being the underdog an generally being unhappy. The bantam, only recently as most derided it as the POS it is, but now think they would like to be unhappy like Dad.

Road lice, pah. I cant see anyone getting excited about the gateway to their Hardley they never bought.

[pritch]

The army Indian, whilst being mass produced antiquitie , would have held a place in history for those entwined in the scope of war.
The Morris Minor, because the English like being the underdog an generally being unhappy. The bantam, only recently as most derided it as the POS it is, but now think they would like to be unhappy like Dad.


A lot of it is about nostalgia, people may wish to revisit their youth. Or their dad, or grandpa. No thanks, when it comes to bikes I like mod cons.

The army Indian is historic, but so are those side valve M20 BSAs from WW2, and who in their right mind would want one of those?

[jellywrestler]

A lot of it is about nostalgia, people may wish to revisit their youth. Or their dad, or grandpa. No thanks, when it comes to bikes I like mod cons.

The army Indian is historic, but so are those side valve M20 BSAs from WW2, and who in their right mind would want one of those? the army indians were a shitty war surplus thing with a foot clutch that you could buy in the 1960's and maybe even early 70's. people weren't getting them cause of their military significance, but as people cut their teeth on them they had a place in their hearts for them, a misguided place but a place nevertheless

[pete376403]

the army indians were a shitty war surplus thing with a foot clutch that you could buy in the 1960's and maybe even early 70's. people weren't getting them cause of their military significance, but as people cut their teeth on them they had a place in their hearts for them, a misguided place but a place nevertheless
I recall Valentines surplus in Hamilton used to have them, the ads on the inside cover of the Auckland Weekly News (pink cover, tabloid size) but I was more interested in the rifles they also advertised - single shot 22 for about 5 pounds

[husaberg]

I recall Valentines surplus in Hamilton used to have them, the ads on the inside cover of the Auckland Weekly News (pink cover, tabloid size) but I was more interested in the rifles they also advertised - single shot 22 for about 5 pounds
the original Copperites uniforms were the old surplus airforce woolly jumpers itchy pants and shirts.

Different thread but Out of interest why didn't you use a cresent on the drainplug of the d8?

[FJRider]

I recall Valentines surplus in Hamilton used to have them, the ads on the inside cover of the Auckland Weekly News (pink cover, tabloid size) but I was more interested in the rifles they also advertised - single shot 22 for about 5 pounds

Those same Valentines adds were in the NZ TRUTH as well.

[pete376403]

the original Copperites uniforms were the old surplus airforce woolly jumpers itchy pants and shirts.

Different thread but Out of interest why didn't you use a cresent on the drainplug of the d8?

It was an internal socket type plug, nothing to put a spanner on.

[husaberg]

It was an internal socket type plug, nothing to put a spanner on.
Makes sense, i have never had the urge to crawl under one. A guy down the road has a complete set of Cat dozers from 2 to 8.

[jellywrestler]

Makes sense, i have never had the urge to crawl under one. A guy down the road has a complete set of Cat dozers from 2 to 8.

shouldn't a complete set include 1?

[husaberg]

shouldn't a complete set include 1?
old ones no.
speaking of set should i put you down for this one?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3381380455?bof=L2pV5cOC

[jellywrestler]

old ones no.
speaking of set should i put you down for this one?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3381380455?bof=L2pV5cOC

nope, actually sold my vincent earlier in the year, got an old 60's kawi W1 that's more fun to ride

[husaberg]

nope, actually sold my vincent earlier in the year, got an old 60's kawi W1 that's more fun to ride


Dont destroy my illusions of the total superiority of the British bike industry
i have a A10 here i am jut starting on. it was a bitza my dad made up in the 80's with a early Plunger semi unt A10 in a A65 frame.
its about 2 inches short than a A10 so it steers pretty neutral.


i seen this pic today so fuck the purists i am going with the Jap front end. if anyone asks i will tell them its a W1.
i am building it to ride
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W1 the Japanese were smart enough to copy the looks of the A10 engine but use the A65 specs.
Didnt they even have a 5 speed?

[pritch]

old ones no.
speaking of set should i put you down for this one?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3381380455?bof=L2pV5cOC

A thing of beauty, but that red mudguard. :weird:

[husaberg]

A thing of beauty, but that red mudguard. :weird:

i could live with the red if the rear was as well, who am i kidding it a Norvin i would be happy to have it if it was yellow
there was a few famous red vincents
it was even an pretty rare export colour i think (yip)
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there was a pommy racer sounded something like Capone or something i think.

okay this is a new one on me
https://www.facebook.com/EgliVincentMotorcycles/photos/for-sale-unique-trackmaster-vincent-in-californiahistory-of-the-bike-httpsegli-v/1598195046937335/

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[F5 Dave]

Geez well this thread has been derailed.

I'll just put this here for a minute to fester on its own. . .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/3398372677?bof=PI5Jos9s

[jellywrestler]

W1 the Japanese were smart enough to copy the looks of the A10 engine but use the A65 specs.
Didnt they even have a 5 speed?

the first W1's were from Meguro, I have a 1958 catalogue of Japanese bikes that show the Meguro a dead ringer for the BSA, a lot of people think Kawasaki copied BSA, they didn't
dunno much about the insides really, my bike had the speedo off the gearbox, but it has had a later gearbox fitted which meant they had to fit another front wheel with a speedo drive, from the W2, got the bits to convert it back if someone wants to

[James Deuce]

the first W1's were from Meguro, I have a 1958 catalogue of Japanese bikes that show the Meguro a dead ringer for the BSA, a lot of people think Kawasaki copied BSA, they didn't
dunno much about the insides really, my bike had the speedo off the gearbox, but it has had a later gearbox fitted which meant they had to fit another front wheel with a speedo drive, from the W2, got the bits to convert it back if someone wants to
Meguro became Kawasaki.

[pritch]

Geez well this thread has been derailed.

I'll just put this here for a minute to fester on its own. . .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/3398372677?bof=PI5Jos9s

Ooooh a brown seat. Somebody will snap that up. Although I'm tempted to flick him a pic of that Norvin to show him what a cafe racer actually looks like.

[Ginge09]

It’s a skate board thin seat too…

[husaberg]

the first W1's were from Meguro, I have a 1958 catalogue of Japanese bikes that show the Meguro a dead ringer for the BSA, a lot of people think Kawasaki copied BSA, they didn't
dunno much about the insides really, my bike had the speedo off the gearbox, but it has had a later gearbox fitted which meant they had to fit another front wheel with a speedo drive, from the W2, got the bits to convert it back if someone wants to

AFAIK the Meguro was a licensed copy of the BSA A7?
in about the mid 60's Mugero were then sold to Kawasaki as Henry said.
i cant see how the bikes are not coped off the BSA. when they were essentially the exact same design made a few years later following on from a licenced copy
Yes they were improved copies that were better equipped
I would be interested to see what they did with the timing side.
EDit
looks like it even had the timing side bush, but the rods at least on this one of ebay are one piece the crank must be pressed?
350309350312350311350310

from the few pic's i have seen of the head looked better designed more like a A65 and the bore and stoke was over or near square.


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Anyone familiar with a A series Nissans and the A series Morris will realise what the Japanese were better at than the Poms.
that crankshaft is far better quality than a BSA

[James Deuce]

AFAIK the Meguro was a licensed copy of the BSA A7?
in about the mid 60's Mugero were then sold to Kawasaki as Henry said.
i cant see how the bikes are not coped off the BSA. when they were essentially the exact same design made a few years later following on from a licenced copy
Yes they were improved copies that were better equipped
I would be interested to see what they did with the timing side.
EDit
looks like it even had the timing side bush, but the rods at least on this one of ebay are one piece the crank must be pressed?
350309350312350311350310

from the few pic's i have seen of the head looked better designed more like a A65 and the bore and stoke was over or near square.


350307350308

Anyone familiar with a A series Nissans and the A series Morris will realise what the Japanese were better at than the Poms.
that crankshaft is far better quality than a BSA

It's copied from the A5 not the A7.

[Grumph]

Anyone familiar with a A series Nissans and the A series Morris will realise what the Japanese were better at than the Poms.
that crankshaft is far better quality than a BSA

Geoff Mardon restored a Meguro some years back. His comment was that it was just like a BSA - but far better made.

[Kickaha]

W1 head gasket overlayed on a BSA A10 head

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[F5 Dave]

My C20 Vannette had an A15 and went surprisingly well stuffed full of motorbikes. Only rust was killing it..

[mulletman]

Not optimistic but cheeap for a new S10

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/yamaha/listing/2914275821?bof=hKdbFYbt

[F5 Dave]

Geez they don't make em pretty do they?

[Navy Boy]

Not optimistic but cheeap for a new S10

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/yamaha/listing/2914275821?bof=hKdbFYbt

Yep - I spotted that one too. It's a lovely machine all right with just two issues. Firstly the colour; that black is a bit too subtle me thinks and secondly it's at Filco's. My experiences with them over the past few years mean I'll steer well clear. :(

[F5 Dave]

Aw fuk off.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3411445696

[F5 Dave]

Oh Jesus fuk off.

These were complete pieces of shit. Never sort after, the lada of motorbikes.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3411127981

[jellywrestler]

Oh Jesus fuk off.

These were complete pieces of shit. Never sort after, the lada of motorbikes.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3411127981

some overpaid IT Hipster will be filling his wank sock twice a day thinking of that

[James Deuce]

some overpaid IT Hipster will be filling his wank sock twice a day thinking of that
You called?

[F5 Dave]

I helped a mate empty his garage of a few of those, fuk they were heavy. They went to the tip rather than bring them north, they'd been a big mistake.

[Edit ]: actually they may have been CZs thinking about it, but same sort of communisty country shit.

[Drew]

Ummm, let's fucken not.

[Berries]

No WOF but still more interesting than the bikes in the last few posts.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/starlet (https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/home-living/outdoor-garden-conservatory/bbqs-outdoor-ovens/4-burners-or-more/listing/3409803943?bof=k71fzklm)

[jim.cox]

Holy Motherfuck Batman,

I know there are some that love the two stroke ringa-ding-ding, but nearly 17k for a 36 year old bike! That sure is being optimistic

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3428631816

[husaberg]

Holy Motherfuck Batman,

I know there are some that love the two stroke ringa-ding-ding, but nearly 17k for a 36 year old bike! That sure is being optimistic

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3428631816


TBH they are on a few Gen x bucket list . but that one has aged better than others on the list.ie the other silcon tiited bleached blondes of their adolescence fantasies
have a look around and find where have all the NSR RGV NS RZ RD and RG gone. the TDR was a mad bike and rare as fuck even then.
but yeah a bit steep though.
but they will flatten out as the GeN x get too old just lie the bsa and Nortons have.

[george formby]

Holy Motherfuck Batman,

I know there are some that love the two stroke ringa-ding-ding, but nearly 17k for a 36 year old bike! That sure is being optimistic

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3428631816


:facepalm: I turned down a TDR in a box a couple of years ago, $500....

Apparently it was stolen and recovered, the owner had dismantled it to tidy it up but never got round to it and gave it to a mate who offered it to me. Yamaha blue IIRC.

I lack the skills to put it back together and also suspected that it might cost a few bob in spare parts, I was a bit skint at the time.

I would still love to have one for a bit of hoonery.

I'm going outside to give myself a good spanking now.:pinch:

[Grumph]

I'd heard two batches came in - around 10 in total. But I stand ready to be corrected.
Absolute hoonican of a bike. No-one over 20 should own one.

[F5 Dave]

I remember seeing one back in the day and thinking "why would you not get the TZR?"
Now I'd like a ride at least as they are out of the price range.

I could be under 20 for an afternoon. :devil2:

[george formby]

I remember seeing one back in the day and thinking "why would you not get the TZR?"
Now I'd like a ride at least as they are out of the price range.

I could be under 20 for an afternoon. :devil2:

Problem with a TZR and it's ilk is size. Had a ride on one back in the day when I was limber and fit. Could barely walk after a decent ride. Brilliant ride, though.

[F5 Dave]

I've always considered motorbikes were designed for me. (I'm 5'8 and beautifully formed) I never really have comfort issues, I've ridden a couple of 250 (NSR and RGV) semi recently and no drama.

It's modern dirtbikes hat have got taller since like 2015, I struggle with.

[george formby]

I've always considered motorbikes were designed for me. (I'm 5'8 and beautifully formed) I never really have comfort issues, I've ridden a couple of 250 (NSR and RGV) semi recently and no drama.

It's modern dirtbikes hat have got taller since like 2015, I struggle with.

I should be 5'8 but I was dragged by my feet a lot as a kid so ended up 6'2.

Avoid 80's dirt bikes, I need a ladder to get on my mates PE400, it's ridiculously tall.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ohhhh waaaaahhhhhh. I started riding dirtbikes and still really like htem but a 36 inch seat height puts it just under my nipple. Yeah, nipple. a 28 inch inseam is no friend to a modern bike. Meh, I make it work but its not comfortable at a standstill. 'as soon as rolling no issue though. I look at modern ADV bikes and go, Yeah, but Nah. also MX bikes.

[F5 Dave]

Strange, the 400 should be no higher than my old 1980 PE175T.

Go sit on a KTM300 in the showroom for example. Yet the earlier ones were OK. You need to be able to paddle and push off things when you get into serious stuff. Just riding around over stuff is easy.

[george formby]

Strange, the 400 should be no higher than my old 1980 PE175T.

Go sit on a KTM300 in the showroom for example. Yet the earlier ones were OK. You need to be able to paddle and push off things when you get into serious stuff. Just riding around over stuff is easy.

Oh dear, I take full responsibilty for this thread meandering.

Any hoo, the 4 hundy has aftermarket shocks from Mercka. Bike sits level so I guess they are the right length, but it is way taller than a KTM EXC 300 or a Sherco equivalent. Dunno about the MX bikes, not my cuppa. I suspect the bikes I've sat on are set up pretty soft for local riding conditions, tight, rooty and steep.

TBH my CRM 250 is higher than the modern Enduros I've cocked a leg over.

At the vinduro last year a bloke had a PE 175 and 250, they were both smaller than the 400x. Looked bloody awesome IMHO.

[F5 Dave]

CRM is low. Try a modern KTM or BETA RR or Race, like a new one. It won't scare you but I'm tipy toes and that's no good for hard sections I like.

[F5 Dave]

Being in a field, or a motocross track the height would be no problem (although my fear of big jumps would be a serious impediment). My 07 GasGas enduro 300 is ideal for me. But the later ones got taller and riding a mates 15 causes me serious issues. A mates 10 yr old KTM seems ok. But the new ones are nose bleed height for me.

[pritch]

First thing I used to look at on a spec sheet was the tank capacity. Now it's the seat height. Since I got my new knee in April I now have trouble getting the knee over the Speed Triple seat. I can do it, but it may take more than one attempt, and there's no prizes for style. I could stand on the peg but that would be placing uncommon faith in the side stand.

[caseye]

I'm running an Africa Twin these days, that is the only Issue I have with it. Seat Height!
Handling, great.
Range, over 300K's per tank before flashing light. Most likely get 400.
Perforance, real good for what she is, effortless passing, acceleration through the twisties.
Looks, well, she's proper Red White and Blue, with every conceivable xtra.
No poblems about touching down once on it, sorted that with a freindly cobbler and another complete sole fitted to the tread.
The side stand on this ol girl takes my 140+ K's with ease and hasn't let me down once, I have no choice but to hop on it and swing the leg, sure as Hell can't swing it straight over from a standing beside it start.
Once aboard, riding it is a breeze, love that DCT, wife came with me for a ride last week around Dorkland, when we got home she complained about having a sore wrist with all the Gear Changes she had to make, I said ""gear whats"":bleh::Punk:

[george formby]

CRM is low. Try a modern KTM or BETA RR or Race, like a new one. It won't scare you but I'm tipy toes and that's no good for hard sections I like.

Weight's the issue for me. If I'm feeling up to a Romaniacs day I pull the trials bike out and cheat. I would have a heart attack wrestling a full size bike through the gnadgery.

[F5 Dave]

Oh, I only make it look difficult.

My riding style involves lots of flailing when things get a bit ugly. But with Tublis I get up most things.

[James Deuce]

Not quite sure what you're trying to say there F5 Dave.


Not many people are. I'm off to get my tublis in order.

[F5 Dave]

Well I think I'm saying that Jim here is my homosexual lover and general mistress of what I do.

Not sure what else we were discussing.

[James Deuce]

Well, butter me with ghee and call me a poppadum, I was not expecting that.

[husaberg]

Not quite sure what you're trying to say there F5 Dave.

I'll sit in the back ground. And watch. Got a 52hr from new KX500 and a zero hour '01 CR500 in the shed.

Hanging on to them for now. Tublis. What the fuck is that please ?


it was a manufactured pop band, at the time i thought the blonde one was cute.

okay i am pretty sure Dave is referring to his tire mousse
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1528654848.jpg

[Reckless]

Been looking for a KTM300 exc TPI
Stumbled across this.
Not sure if its optimistic but the Q&A is a giggle. Thought I'd share.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3354394048?bof=GfFic3J4

[Kickaha]

okay i am pretty sure Dave is referring to his tire mousse


Not a mousse, works totally different

[F5 Dave]

Been looking for a KTM300 exc TPI
Stumbled across this.
Not sure if its optimistic but the Q&A is a giggle. Thought I'd share.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3354394048?bof=GfFic3J4
I'm no expert but a mate has a 20 and sez they are much better than the first model, apparently. Just for info.

[F5 Dave]

Well this seems quite a lot for a track-hack with no obvious money in suspension or cosmetics to make it more desirable

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3433040992?bof=qNZnY9e9

I'd be reading the class eligibility rules pretty closely too.

[F5 Dave]

Talking of race rules, it's been a little while since I stopped racing but I must be seriously out of touch if this qualifies. :lol:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3432922818?bof=qNZnY9e9

[pritch]

Well this seems quite a lot for a track-hack with no obvious money in suspension or cosmetics to make it more desirable



But he "advanced the ignition".

[F5 Dave]

Ahh. So he's using Advanced Technology.

[husaberg]

Not a mousse, works totally different
You mean they do not hold the tire off the rim?:msn-wink:
Wasn't it just an air adjustable mousse "without calling it a mousse"as the word tie mousse was a "tm" of Michelin

[Kickaha]

CRM is low. Try a modern KTM or BETA RR or Race, like a new one. It won't scare you but I'm tipy toes and that's no good for hard sections I like.

Someone's given me one of those Beta 300RR thingys for the Conway coast trail ride, I know it'll be a let down after the mighty IT200 but I'll give it a bash anyway

[F5 Dave]

Wear your stilettos.

[george formby]

Wear your stilettos.

I'm beginning to think that F5 does not mean what I thought. Is the F for Frank N Furter?:whistle:

Meanwhile, looking forward to a report on the Beta, ridden at 11/10ths.

The X trainer and 200 rr have been on my radar.

K'inell, just had a look at X Trainers for sale. Seat height a mere 910mm compared to 930mm for the RR. Point taken.

[F5 Dave]

Feels like a foot. My 21 XTr is lower than my GasGas300 circa 2007

[Kickaha]

Wear your stilettos.

Don't you find them a bit shit for walking round the paddock ?

[george formby]

Feels like a foot. My 21 XTr is lower than my GasGas300 circa 2007

Measured the CRM and it's 910mm, same as X Trainer.

Might be doing the All in All out, trail ride at The Farm on Sunday. Will take a tape measure for the PE.

[jellywrestler]

Don't you find them a bit shit for walking round the paddock ?

He's not allowed in a paddock since the last court case, and restricted to which animal he is allowed at home too.

[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3441646612?bof=7rCk0XBA

just how many ticks would this thing get at WOF time?

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3441646612?bof=7rCk0XBA

just how many ticks would this thing get at WOF time?
its many things, but i will say two shit its unique

[BEAMER89]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3441646612?bof=7rCk0XBA

just how many ticks would this thing get at WOF time?

Even with its 125cc its rego'd as a 50cc so wont need a WOF lol

[pritch]

The seller is seriously into minimalism. He could teach Marie Kondo a thing or two. This approach also extends to his photography and his description.

[F5 Dave]

maybe it's the slight hangover, but I kinda like it. And, no, Drew hasn't taken over my login. It would of course be completely shite. Maybe it's the ducktail.

But no WOF won't stop the cop giving you a ticket for any number of infringements. Sort of thing that probably gives a cop a stiffy as it rolls by and they can see their quota being satisfied in one sitting. Leaving more time for donuts and questionable internet searches.

[FJRider]

maybe it's the slight hangover, but I kinda like it. And, no, Drew hasn't taken over my login. It would of course be completely shite. Maybe it's the ducktail.

But no WOF won't stop the cop giving you a ticket for any number of infringements. Sort of thing that probably gives a cop a stiffy as it rolls by and they can see their quota being satisfied in one sitting. Leaving more time for donuts and questionable internet searches.

With or without a WOF requirement ... the vehicles need to be roadworthy at all times. Bald tires, no brakes ... and lights not working etc ... just doesn't cut it anymore.

Even WITH a current Wof ... it only takes a brake light or tail light to not be working ... and be "eligible" for a $150 fine for the vehicle to not be up to WOF standard.

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3441646612?bof=7rCk0XBA

just how many ticks would this thing get at WOF time?

sweeeeet fuck all.. but, its cool

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3454431522?bof=V9NFQ9eq

What the Actual Fuck?

Unless he has sold it for sensible money (maybe $10k?) and its just on at $25k so he dosent have to pay the tardme fees.

[onearmedbandit]

Makes this one look cheap lol

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/listing/3443263756?bof=71EXvlBr

[F5 Dave]

Well I am no expert on these but this seems salty for a 22yr old bike. Like he wants to recoup all the repairs he spent that would have been unlikely on another brand.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/indian/listing/3441117357?bof=71EXvlBr

[F5 Dave]

Geez there is a lot of stuff festering on TM unsold for ages and a lot from this thread for those with long memories.



This one is new, and it looks clean and original.

Just a pity it isn't an XR. Good luck getting that for a DR.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/3451718734?bof=71EXvlBr

[Berries]

And it is left hand drive.

[Stylo]

Geez there is a lot of stuff festering on TM unsold for ages and a lot from this thread for those with long memories.



This one is new, and it looks clean and original.

Just a pity it isn't an XR. Good luck getting that for a DR.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/3451718734?bof=71EXvlBr

I'd say that's a reasonable asking price. Try and find another.

[F5 Dave]

I had a bit of a Boner for the 250T back in the day. Until I realised they were an also ran. As was the 500 and the masses of 400s dumped on NZ market.

The DRs sold on price. Dealer import. Probably most XRs have been picked over, then the TTs.

[Vinz0r]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3454431522?bof=V9NFQ9eq

What the Actual Fuck?

Unless he has sold it for sensible money (maybe $10k?) and its just on at $25k so he dosent have to pay the tardme fees.

Jesus, that's a bit out there.

Might be time to chuck my NC30 up for sale if that's the way prices are going.

[pritch]

Jesus, that's a bit out there.

Might be time to chuck my NC30 up for sale if that's the way prices are going.

Not sure if that's actually how prices are going when there's another advertised at half that.

[F5 Dave]

And have a look at how many bikes are festering unsold.

But let's say he has two logons. . . Put up two auctions, disguise one bike and put a crazy price on it. . . ;)

[husaberg]

Not sure if that's actually how prices are going when there's another advertised at half that.
with less km on it as well.

350554

[Vinz0r]

That type .. 8? one in Tauranga is a mess. Pictures make it look a lot nicer than it is.

[Dak S83]

Hmm, define completely restored, complete with coby muffler and bent levers https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/3454921803?bof=3hUcgu0q&fbclid=IwAR3j-haGJ4PXLGM8zW6bcH904i54A8ehNiBm0Bn8EtaBllpRrxVls5F fbv0

[F5 Dave]

Nice find, but check out this in the description

" This bike is the genuine artificial and . . .

[Grumph]

Nice find, but check out this in the description

" This bike is the genuine artificial and . . .


Sometimes predictive text speaks the raw truth.

He's comparing apples and oranges. The 500 gets the money the 400 is a sideshow.

[F5 Dave]

Presactly, if you've ridden a 400 they make a nice inoffensive commuter or learners bike, but nothing more. Wind on the motorway is a serious foe to your progress.

and the 500 was nothing more than a cynical styling exercise using cheap leftovers where possible.

[mulletman]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/yamaha/listing/3456828124?bof=SLeKHRhs

Great pics and awesome description.....and the price

[onearmedbandit]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/yamaha/listing/3456828124?bof=SLeKHRhs

Great pics and awesome description.....and the price

Not exactly a 'private seller' either.

https://www.motorcycles.org.nz/

[HenryDorsetCase]

Presactly, if you've ridden a 400 they make a nice inoffensive commuter or learners bike, but nothing more. Wind on the motorway is a serious foe to your progress.

and the 500 was nothing more than a cynical styling exercise using cheap leftovers where possible.

Oi!!! I bought a 400 brand new in 87!

But you're right. The pick of them was the single seat 400 with the fairing (looks wise). I dont think the 500 was much quicker in my memory of it. I thought at the time it handled pretty well too. It was actually bought for my better half to learn to ride on but she never actually did.

Also I dislike intensely the assignment of gender to any machine. Its just fucking stupid. We aren't French for fucks sake.

[FJRider]

... and the 500 was nothing more than a cynical styling exercise using cheap leftovers where possible.

But it worked ... and were hugely popular. They still are actually ...

Go figure.

[F5 Dave]

But only in New Zealand, for reasons.

They obviously over catered for the domestic market which had weak sales so in time honoured fashion of the 80s and 90s, they were dumped in NZ and sold for a song. The 400s in particular due to the Jap license laws were prolific enough that I remember long lines of them outside Sawyers in both shops.

The Brits got the XBR version but to a Luke warm reception.

[HenryDorsetCase]

But only in New Zealand, for reasons.

They obviously over catered for the domestic market which had weak sales so in time honoured fashion of the 80s and 90s, they were dumped in NZ and sold for a song. The 400s in particular due to the Jap license laws were prolific enough that I remember long lines of them outside Sawyers in both shops.

The Brits got the XBR version but to a Luke warm reception.

I bought mine from Sawyers. First (and one of very few) new bike I have ever bought. Ticked it up too.

[Blackbird]

Wind on the motorway is a serious foe to your progress. .

An aftermarket fairing made a massive difference to progress in windy conditions

[pritch]

One of the mechanics at the local Honda shop used a GB400 for his fairly lengthy rural commute. It was probably more economical than exciting but it did the job.

[pritch]

This isn't an optimistic seller, it just sorta popped up on Facebook. It's Trumph engine in a Greeves frame, a Grumph. Thought it could appeal to someone hereabout?

[husaberg]

One of the mechanics at the local Honda shop used a GB400 for his fairly lengthy rural commute. It was probably more economical than exciting but it did the job.
An Aussie bike mag got 120MPG out of a similar era Xl250 with computing at open road speeds

[Grumph]

This isn't an optimistic seller, it just sorta popped up on Facebook. It's Trumph engine in a Greeves frame, a Grumph. Thought it could appeal to someone hereabout?

Nah. I built something similar to commute on back in the 80's. RM370 chassis with a GS400 twin inserted. The commute was ChCh to Lyttelton and a trailiie gave the option of tunnel or over the hill - including using the Bridle Path a few times for laughs.
The 400 was probably gruntier than that Triumph. It was a genuine 100mph trail bike.

[pritch]

The 400 was probably gruntier than that Triumph. It was a genuine 100mph trail bike.

But it wasn't a Grumph.

[F5 Dave]

You'll have to explain that. It has a wheel at every corner and apart from a lurid colour appears like every other shopping cart. Is this somehow special? Or is it just some tired old man thinking his poxy shitbox is worth a lot.
Sorry being a motorcycle forum we could be a bit ignorant.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Say what now?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bmw/listing/3472632127?bof=lQD6dBVx

[dangerous]

Say what now?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bmw/listing/3472632127?bof=lQD6dBVx

farking n ell... 50k LMFAO :nya:

[F5 Dave]

What does it look like? So much effort in listing stuff, cant operate a camera.

[Drew]

What in the name of all imaginary friends? 18 year old fucking middleweight!

[F5 Dave]

They are pretty in that colour of a sunny day. Minus all that black shit probably covering scratches.

15k, :nya:

[Owl]

And here was me thinking of dropping my SDR insurance from $10k

[F5 Dave]

This will do quite nicely

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/3481792731


Why start with a poxy 250?

[F5 Dave]

Can't believe this pos is still on for $2.5k after all these months, or is it years?

I mean what the fuck is it trying, and failing, to be?


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/3495366000

[F5 Dave]

So, no providence , you've imported it from Aus and want your money back, and you've already got another. . . . Alarm bells ringing.

Spent a lot of time on it, but needs tappets and some dyno time. So. . . Makes a hell of a racket but you couldn't spend 8 minutes opening those exposed tapet covers and waving some feeler gauges in there? Runs so badly needs dyno time.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3493963388

Wouldn't (he doesn't say couldn't) build it for that much he says. Yeah. Yeah you're right. I wouldn't.

[Grumph]

About 3 grand overpriced for the NZ market.IMO

Best way to sell it is to race it with a for sale sign on. If it's quick it'll sell.

[pritch]

So, no providence , you've imported it from Aus and want your money back, and you've already got another. . . . Alarm bells ringing.



Would swap for Norton or Matchless? Think big, go for a Britten why doncha?

[Stylo]

Would swap for Norton or Matchless? Think big, go for a Britten why doncha?

Don't know much about these early Hondas myself. Be interested in your knowledge of them. You seem very knowledgable.

I'd say the asking price is about right.

[pritch]

Don't know much about these early Hondas myself. Be interested in your knowledge of them. You seem very knowledgable.

I'd say the asking price is about right.

Good for you. I know nowt. Then again, IMHO anybody who would exchange a classic Brit bike for that would be nuts. And no, I'm not a psychiatrist.
Nor do I teach remedial reading, but I didn't comment on the price.

[jellywrestler]

Good for you. I know nowt. Then again, IMHO anybody who would exchange a classic Brit bike for that would be nuts. And no, I'm not a psychiatrist.
Nor do I teach remedial reading, but I didn't comment on the price.

reality is when these came along a lot of guys saw a fair bit of them, from behind them on the track. There's a couple of these out there that are so much better to ride and maintain than a brit bike too.

[pritch]

reality is when these came along a lot of guys saw a fair bit of them, from behind them on the track. There's a couple of these out there that are so much better to ride and maintain than a brit bike too.

Cool, I can understand that. Which would fetch the big bucks though? Ok, I know, I can look it up...

[F5 Dave]

reality is when these came along a lot of guys saw a fair bit of them, from behind them on the track. There's a couple of these out there that are so much better to ride and maintain than a brit bike too.
No doubt. I had a mate with a fairly hotroded one. . . . But reading between the alarm bells I'm kinda thinking this isn't one of them.

Nice rims mind. Those 'new' tyres have a lot of tread, but they look kinda hard. Date code would tell a story I'm sure. Didn't look to see if they are road or race compound, GP if I recall.

[F5 Dave]

Would swap for Norton or Matchless? Think big, go for a Britten why doncha?
Hahaha.:laugh:
Must spread more reputation before etc etc.

[F5 Dave]

Says recently listed, but I'm pretty sure I recognise from ages back.

Past its exemption date, hasn't run for over a year, can't be arsed pulling it out to take pictures let alone try start it. What's the chance it has ever seen maintenance?

So why would anyone pay $2.5k for this??

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3499130132

[george formby]

Bugger me. Their are hens teeth and then are TY hens teeth. I've never seen this model road legal, just air cooled ones. Be one helluva a bike for the tight trails.

But the price..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3443727274?bof=UudmFzQa

[HenryDorsetCase]

Bugger me. Their are hens teeth and then are TY hens teeth. I've never seen this model road legal, just air cooled ones. Be one helluva a bike for the tight trails.

But the price..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3443727274?bof=UudmFzQa

I should buy it because its the only offroader I will realistically be able to get a leg over.

[husaberg]

Bugger me. Their are hens teeth and then are TY hens teeth. I've never seen this model road legal, just air cooled ones. Be one helluva a bike for the tight trails.

But the price..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3443727274?bof=UudmFzQa

just the thing for city traffic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Rful7Yp_k

[F5 Dave]

Bugger me. Their are hens teeth and then are TY hens teeth. I've never seen this model road legal, just air cooled ones. Be one helluva a bike for the tight trails.

But the price..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3443727274?bof=UudmFzQa

Think I've ridden one. And fallen off it.

But Why? 147km. I can't think of a more pointless bike to have road registered. Maybe good for a short farmer with serious hilly terrain.
They did use that engine for the Scorpa that carried on for quite a while.


For 2-3 grand more you could buy a new European Trials bike 30 years more advanced.
Edit, $1400 more for an old stock 2021

[george formby]

Think I've ridden one. And fallen off it.

But Why? 147km. I can't think of a more pointless bike to have road registered. Maybe good for a short farmer with serious hilly terrain.
They did use that engine for the Scorpa that carried on for quite a while.


For 2-3 grand more you could buy a new European Trials bike 30 years more advanced.
Edit, $1400 more for an old stock 2021

Interestin you should mention the farmers. For many years in the North of England and in Scotland the hill farmers used TY's to get around before quads came along. They had horses for when it snowed.

One of the first things I spotted on that TY was the generous rack, almost farmer spec.

The thing is with modern trials bikes is how focused they are. No seat and a frustrating gearbox for anything but trials. They are pretty explosive, too and can really catch you by surprise when they rocket off into the distance or up a tree. Bloody awesome fun, though. I'm looking to get a modern bike into the shed, finally feel confident enough to make one work. A bit.



That TY has a 6 speed box, I would bet it's low geared with standard -ish ratios. Very usable for trail riding.

Up until a week or two ago their was an Ossa Explorer TRi 300 2015, listed which really grabbed my interest.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah the rack made me think farmer.

Trials bikes haven't had seats for 30 years. My Beta 1989 had a section of rubber about 3mm thick.

Last week there was a 2014 Gasser 250 saw it on the Sunday, went out for a road ride and convinced myself to buy it, even had the conversation planned to idly mention it to the wife as we've finally replaced her car.

Got home, it's gone. Poos.

[pritch]

Not my thing, but the local Honda shop had a 125 trials bike on display. What I liked was that it was an HRC bike. It didn't just have HRC stckers, the cases said HRC. Be hard to find another genuine HRC bike at that price.

[Beekeeper]

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1715780359.jpg

A shocker for the senses
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/victory/listing/3511054327?bof=lfEpTMCO

[Beekeeper]

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1633283312.jpg

Subconscious tricycle envy?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/3476044400?bof=lfEpTMCO

[Beekeeper]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/other/listing/3504323335?bof=lfEpTMCOhttps://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1688379978.jpg

A screaming bargain at 45k https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/other/listing/3504323335?bof=lfEpTMCO

[Beekeeper]

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1679707528.jpg

comfort plus plus at 45k https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/3507225919?bof=lfEpTMCO

[F5 Dave]

Jesus man! It's a rolling display of a fuking horrible foursome.

I would salute your efforts, but I am concerned how you found this much shit.:lol:

[HenryDorsetCase]

A shocker for the senses
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/victory/listing/3511054327?bof=lfEpTMCO

I sort of like that in a "1950's car with tailfins and dripping chrome" kind of way.

edit: his lawn is nicer than mine.

[HenryDorsetCase]

comfort plus plus at 45k https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/3507225919?bof=lfEpTMCO

Different bars and four minutes with a hacksaw* on those fishtail pipes and you've got a cool cruiser there. do eeeeeet. You know you want it. We know you want it, so just do it.



*hacksaws are for peasants - a 5 inch grinder iwth a 1mm slitting disc (thank you Bad Obsession Motorsport for introducing me to my favourite tool) and you're in and out in less than a minute. LESS THAN A MINUTE

[Laava]

Thats awesome in a "motorbike you dont want to ride" kinda way!

[pritch]

Coupla baggers there. Could enter those in the King of the Baggers series. Imagine punting one of those around Daytona.

[F5 Dave]

Different bars and four minutes with a hacksaw* on those fishtail pipes and you've got a cool cruiser there. do eeeeeet. You know you want it. We know you want it, so just do it.



*hacksaws are for peasants - a 5 inch grinder iwth a 1mm slitting disc (thank you Bad Obsession Motorsport for introducing me to my favourite tool) and you're in and out in less than a minute. LESS THAN A MINUTE

Why stop there?

Think what improvements you could do with a handful of cutting discs? Virtually anything you hit on it.

[Edit] try keep the steel and the relatively small amount of ally in separate piles. Reduce Reuse Recycle.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Coupla baggers there. Could enter those in the King of the Baggers series. Imagine punting one of those around Daytona.

The minimum weight for those is 300kg wet I think. Some outlandish number. They are surprisingly quick - and trick. Wooly (not Woodmansey) built the Deus Customs one and documented it on IG

[HenryDorsetCase]

Why stop there?

Think what improvements you could do with a handful of cutting discs? Virtually anything you hit on it.

[Edit] try keep the steel and the relatively small amount of ally in separate piles. Reduce Reuse Recycle.

It sounds like quite a long process - call it ten minutes total. Not sure I have the patience for that.

[Beekeeper]

There's some real shockers out there, and bikes too

[F5 Dave]

Yes, it is a CB750

Ahh, yeah nah..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3516467367?bof=Jf33q16v

Well its newer so it must be worth more. . . :facepalm:

[Stylo]

Yes, it is a CB750

Ahh, yeah nah..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3516467367?bof=Jf33q16v

Well its newer so it must be worth more. . . :facepalm:

Not many of these bikes left for sure. But you would to need to throw another 20 at it to make it worth what he's asking for it.

I might be wrong.....

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3516292479?bof=Jf33q16v

Highly desirable.

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3516292479?bof=Jf33q16v

Highly desirable.

Well the question is, is the sr more valuable than a road maggot GN on the basis that they were never as common?

[Berries]

Highly desirable.
Nice one.



We really do need a sarcasm font though just in case anyone thought you were being serious.

[F5 Dave]

Not many of these bikes left for sure. But you would to need to throw another 20 at it to make it worth what he's asking for it.

I might be wrong.....
Well yeah its fucked, but would be getting worth it if it were a first year, but by 78 they were long in the tooth as onda were in car mode ignoring the bike side of the business. This guy has probably seen early ones selling and thought, gee this must be worth heaps.
First question is funny.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well yeah its fucked, but would be getting worth it if it were a first year, but by 78 they were long in the tooth as onda were in car mode ignoring the bike side of the business. This guy has probably seen early ones selling and thought, gee this must be worth heaps.
First question is funny.

I looked at that and my favourite old Honda 4 was that model. Same colour too. I am going to check the rego to see if that was my old one. But notwithstanding there is a lot of stuff there, its all REALLY expensive to do a resto on. I reckon the pile would be good buying at say ten k but not more than that. And that factory 4 into 1 is likely rotted in the collector. it looks hideous with that 4 into 2 on it. Luckily I have decided (and this time I mean it) that there are lots of cool bikes I did own back in the day and I dont need to revisit them and if I do get the horn for an old bike it will be something I havent owned before.

Also - when there is a K0 on tardme for $25k (running, on the road, minter) and a K2 (maybe K4) nice survivor looking bike, good condition rider for $15k who in their right mind would pay $20k for something that needs a complete fucking strip and rebuild. Even selling off what you dont need you're still in the hole for a bunch of money.

Tell you what: the good deals currently are 80's airhead BMW's: $5 to say $8k will buy you something running, reliable which you could confidently ride to Bluff or North Cape in comfort and at a reasonable clip. People are weird.

[pete376403]

I had one like that too. Thought it was my ex but mine had dual, drilled disks on the front, I would also know mine from the welding job Graham Berry did on the cases after it broke the chain. (he did a very good job). IIRC I sold it in 1988 for $1300 to pay a tax bill.

[F5 Dave]

A mate had one as well. Swapped it for a GT380.

If it was a good welding job it was probably the other Graham. He's back in the same building.

[pete376403]

A mate had one as well. Swapped it for a GT380.

If it was a good welding job it was probably the other Graham. He's back in the same building.

Was a long time ago, 1985. Dont recall where he was located but I do know I too it to G Berry

[dangerous]

thirty seven farking grand...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3519436835?bof=8TTo513P

[F5 Dave]

Ridiculous. Last one was about 16k. 2 months ago. A mate bought it. Must hit him up for a ride.

[Laava]

Check these bikes out! Cheapest Hogs in town! Listed in Building and renovation, tools, air hoses
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/building-renovation/tools/airtools-compressors/regulators-hoses/listing/3513618637?bof=HKYrQtJh

[F5 Dave]

At last. A Hardley you wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen on. Would have to wear full gang regalia of course. :Punk:

[Ginge09]

Would need to stay within 50km of the gang clubhouse. Also keep the speed down.

Essentially a two wheeled mobility scooter.

[dangerous]

Would need to stay within 50km of the gang clubhouse. Also keep the speed down.

Essentially a two wheeled mobility scooter.

ohhh fark me... thats just sad...

[F5 Dave]

A lot less sad than wannabees posing on their tough big boys bikes.

Grrr. Grrr.

[F5 Dave]

Well this looks nice and certainly not like it has been used as a boat anchor.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3527318273


Rides beautifully apparently.

[Drew]

Well this looks nice and certainly not like it has been used as a boat anchor.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3527318273


Rides beautifully apparently.

I've got one here that's pretty tidy. SP model though.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Are RC51 SP1 and 2's going out of fashion or something?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3508629182

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3519878745

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3522126721

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3523274336?archive=1


Somebody paid 30 large for that last one. Super tidy.

I really want one but they are a pig round town, hot running, love petrol and have a tiny tank range. And yet....

[onearmedbandit]

I really want one but they are a pig round town, hot running, love petrol and have a tiny tank range. And yet....

No one in the history of motorcycles bought an SP1/2 with their brain, they were all bought with the heart in control.

[husaberg]

Are RC51 SP1 and 2's going out of fashion or something?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3508629182

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3519878745

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3522126721

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3523274336?archive=1


Somebody paid 30 large for that last one. Super tidy.

I really want one but they are a pig round town, hot running, love petrol and have a tiny tank range. And yet....


No one in the history of motorcycles bought an SP1/2 with their brain, they were all bought with the heart in control.

If they went with their testes it would have been a 996.

i would suggest that they have tanked level now, a few years ago you could get a 916 for similar they are on the way up now.

[F5 Dave]

I've got one here that's pretty tidy. SP model though.
Have a bit of a soft spot for the sp. Only a little bit. Borrowed one off a Mate while my bike was being fixed. Did everything it said on the tin. Like a big VT250.

Or an obedient Labrador when I needed friendly transport if however dull Hondas of that genre delivered.

[Berries]

Check these bikes out! Cheapest Hogs in town! Listed in Building and renovation, tools, air hoses
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/building-renovation/tools/airtools-compressors/regulators-hoses/listing/3513618637?bof=HKYrQtJh
Fuck.

Me.

Photoshop just gets better and better. Imagine someone actually building one......................

[HenryDorsetCase]

Fuck.

Me.

Photoshop just gets better and better. Imagine someone actually building one......................

my air compressor is an actual V twin. no wonder I like the sound so much... Also it produces a lot of vibration and fuck all power. All I need to do is paint it orange and black and sell it for like $35k

[dangerous]

No one in the history of motorcycles bought an SP1/2 with their brain, they were all bought with the heart in control.

nor did they buy one for round town, cool running, tank range or addiction to petrol...

[Kickaha]

nor did they buy one for tank range

That became fucking obvious when I had to double you the gas station in Kaikoura while the second Honda ran out even earlier and had to send someone for gas as well

[pritch]

An indication of current values of some old bikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pARbnjeu6lE

[dangerous]

That became fucking obvious when I had to double you the gas station in Kaikoura while the second Honda ran out even earlier and had to send someone for gas as well

ohhh yeah hehehe... deano got a bit pissed at me for the scenic deviation aye... :confused:

but man did i love being your bitch on the xj550...

[dangerous]

An indication of current values of some old bikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pARbnjeu6lE

honda rickman... then the sunbeam with chair... good watch mate...

[Laava]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/other/listing/3538863656?bof=S2E6Ch8I
Lols, if this thing ever gets moving, someone gonna get hurt!

[Laava]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/other/listing/3519604308?bof=S2E6Ch8I
Again, as above but with bells on!

[F5 Dave]

First one is a Drift Trike. I dont know much about them, but I do know hes got it backwards yeah?

2nd one- how can you take several pictures and still fail to capture what it looks like?

[husaberg]

First one ....Has drew moved to the Hawks Bay.....:lol:

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/other/listing/3519604308?bof=S2E6Ch8I
Again, as above but with bells on!

24700k for bells...

[Drew]

First one ....J+Has drew moved to the Hawks Bay.....:lol:

Whoa whoa whoa. Ya cut me real deep just now.:lol:

[husaberg]

Whoa whoa whoa. Ya cut me real deep just now.:lol:

Just Tell me you don't like it......:laugh:

[Drew]

Just Tell me you don't like it......:laugh:

I did not.

[F5 Dave]

Well heres one for you.

It's a what?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3541452430

5k. Doesn't get ridden much.

Yeah I wouldn't either.

[dangerous]

fuck me dead foreskin fred...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/3547685865?bof=Ya9BHdzn

[F5 Dave]

Well a finished one will pick 30k easy enough. So that's probably not too bad. Although it will need 24k in parts and finishes. Labour will be for free.

But I do love the Foreskin Fred bit. I might have to steal that.

[ducatilover]

Well heres one for you.

It's a what?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3541452430

5k. Doesn't get ridden much.

Yeah I wouldn't either.
Poor fella in the comments seems to have taken some personal issue with it

[F5 Dave]

I'd never looked at the pictures. How did he so consistently not get the whole motorcycle in the frame? Must be special.

[pritch]

OK so whether they are optimistic or not is yet to be established. This clip covers some of the items at an upcoming Bonhams auction, you can still get there if you're quick. Otherwise if you've got a lazy twenty minutes you can watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1aHVikj54

[F5 Dave]

No, no, I've bought 2 motorcycles in the last 2 nights, I have to stop. That MV looks nice. Ohh. There's a lot more zeros involved. Ok I'm cured.

[pritch]

Whether it's optimistically priced or not is hard to say. This is my nieces new bike. Her husband's new bike arrives next month (perhaps, weather permitting).

She wants to remove the TV and park this in its place.

[pritch]

This morning I saw in the distance a Yamaha two stroke on a trailer. It was painted white with red in the old Yamaha racing colours. The bottom side fairings were missing but it looked tidy enough. I couldn't get a good look but it looked too big to be a 250. The owner walked past where I was standing so I asked what size it was, it was a 500cc four. I commented that they are getting expensive these days, he told me it was on its way to be restored, when completed it'll owe him about $35,000.

In case anyone was wondering what they're worth these days.

[george formby]

Whether it's optimistically priced or not is hard to say. This is my nieces new bike. Her husband's new bike arrives next month (perhaps, weather permitting).

She wants to remove the TV and park this in its place.

Fer some reason after watching Chris Northover punting one against a KTM on Welsh gravel roads, an Indian FTR appeared on my "Could be in the shed" list.

Summit totally different for me but it does good on gravel. Nuff said.

Sound like yer niece has her priorities in order. :niceone:

[F5 Dave]

This morning I saw in the distance a Yamaha two stroke on a trailer. It was painted white with red in the old Yamaha racing colours. The bottom side fairings were missing but it looked tidy enough. I couldn't get a good look but it looked too big to be a 250. The owner walked past where I was standing so I asked what size it was, it was a 500cc four. I commented that they are getting expensive these days, he told me it was on its way to be restored, when completed it'll owe him about $35,000.

In case anyone was wondering what they're worth these days.

If it were an inline 4, a TZ500.
A V4 roadbike an RZ500. That would be excessive paying someone for everything.

[pritch]

If it were an inline 4, a TZ500.
A V4 roadbike an RZ500. That would be excessive paying someone for everything.

He had other bikes, he reeled off a short but expensive list including a Ducati 1200s(?)*. His garage sounded like it would be worth a look.



*The question mark is because it wasn't just an s there was another letter IIRC.

[jellywrestler]

If it were an inline 4, a TZ500.
A V4 roadbike an RZ500. That would be excessive paying someone for everything.

i think there was only one TZ500 to come to nz and that has been restored

[Racing Dave]

i think there was only one TZ500 to come to nz and that has been restored
Kenneth Steadman raced that one, back in the day. At the one-off Sydenham street circuit round of the NZ Champs (can't recall the year) he was only a whisker away from a win. Found a hay bale right at the end of the race...

[husaberg]

Kenneth Steadman raced that one, back in the day. At the one-off Sydenham street circuit round of the NZ Champs (can't recall the year) he was only a whisker away from a win. Found a hay bale right at the end of the race...

1984 i have the result page posted somewhere out of a ancient kiwirider.
Aaron slight did very well on a RZ350.
click on them it three times

350986350984350985

[jasonu]

Kenneth Steadman raced that one, back in the day. At the one-off Sydenham street circuit round of the NZ Champs (can't recall the year) he was only a whisker away from a win. Found a hay bale right at the end of the race...

Ive got one of the pipes from that bike. Ken used it on his RAT bucket that I still have.

[jellywrestler]

Kenneth Steadman raced that one, back in the day. At the one-off Sydenham street circuit round of the NZ Champs (can't recall the year) he was only a whisker away from a win. Found a hay bale right at the end of the race...

jan 19-20th 1985, results show steadman won the first race on the TZ500

[F5 Dave]

I was going to say one of the Steadmans had a TZ, so didn't think that rare.

[Drew]

Kill it. KILL IT WITH FIRE!

[jellywrestler]

I was going to say one of the Steadmans had a TZ, so didn't think that rare.

it was the only one in NZ to my knowledge

[jellywrestler]

Kill it. KILL IT WITH FIRE!

a streetfighter here is a bike that's been rolled bowled and arsholed and no money to find replacement plastics, this looks like a recently fucked bum.

[F5 Dave]

Could be the new genre of street fighter.

The Sports Tourer Fighter.

Note the comfortable seat, suitable for all day fighting duties. :ar15:

[dangerous]

Kill it. KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Honda is my fav japper... but for the second time in my life Im going to agree with you... burn it, then burn the twat that did this...

PS 1st time was when you said R1arron could not kick white trash arse LOL



Could be the new genre of street fighter.

The Sports Tourer Fighter.

Note the comfortable seat, suitable for all day fighting duties. :ar15:

hahahaaaa... ohh I feel the hondas pain, I cant believ some fuk did that and expects 5k... with over 100k on it... im speechless

[Grumph]

i think there was only one TZ500 to come to nz and that has been restored


Pretty sure the Jones brought one in that Brent found somewhere in Asia.
Reasonably sure they never raced it - and like the H1R, it's gone overseas.

[jellywrestler]

Pretty sure the Jones brought one in that Brent found somewhere in Asia.
Reasonably sure they never raced it - and like the H1R, it's gone overseas.

i have a recollection that BJ had one, thought he'd run it and it went to steadman, but memres vague there

[malcy25]

Pretty sure the Jones brought one in that Brent found somewhere in Asia.
Reasonably sure they never raced it - and like the H1R, it's gone overseas.

TZ500 is sitting in my mates garage. Was all lined up for a ride last December, but a last minute technical issue put paid to that. It's in very good hands.....

Edit: I also have a new boot of Brent on it at Pukekohe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4CrQOVeQyc

[HenryDorsetCase]

TZ500 is sitting in my mates garage. Was all lined up for a ride last December, but a last minute technical issue put paid to that. It's in very good hands.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4CrQOVeQyc

Great video! I cannot believe its only had 351 views!

[malcy25]

Great video! I cannot believe its only had 351 views!
It’s probably because I’m in it🤣. Fun day out. Trevor asked another mate and myself if we could help ride some of his bikes for some footage for the new R7 a Yamaha promo video . (They did two vids ) . I spent most of the day zooming around on his 1974 TZ750. I also rode his 1986 TZ250S but that didn’t end so well😩 . Crashed it at the chicane . Doh.

[Grumph]

TZ500 is sitting in my mates garage. Was all lined up for a ride last December, but a last minute technical issue put paid to that. It's in very good hands.....


Auckland.......Overseas.......Much the same thing from down here. Bikes disappear and we don't see them again. Good that it's going to come out again.

[pritch]

Great video! I cannot believe its only had 351 views!

Eleven likes? Tragic. I've flicked to Mat Oxley and asked him to give it a bump start. We'll see...

[pete376403]

Great video! I cannot believe its only had 351 views!

At least one more this morning. A lot of money in that collection.

[Dadpole]

^^^^^^ Ditto :drool:

[malcy25]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI7skenUQxI

This is the other one done

[HenryDorsetCase]

That R7 is $14500 which seems cheap. Presumably it needs at least a full system and chipped to reach its potential but the package looks nice. Light compared to some (they claim 188kg wet) but heavy in comparison to an RZ350 which would be around, what? - 165kg wet? All those extra spinny bits in the motor add a lot of weight and complication. Plus the stock exhaust with a cat and so forth is probably 8 kg.

nice looking wheels and brakes and boingy bits - though if you were racing one you'd upgrade.

[husaberg]

This is the other one done
i thought it was odd that the voice over was the fat dude from Hauaki.
https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/4/y/o/l/i/p/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1420x800 .21d39q.png/1603836523021.jpg

[F5 Dave]

Fuck this is ugly. Imagine what you can buy for 18k that isn't 20 years old.https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/harley-davidson/listing/3319869575

[F5 Dave]

And these were a completely cynical POS. I remember Mark Williams of Bike mag panning a one he was given to look after.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3575454752

[F5 Dave]

So what do you get here? Some wheels and dreadful fibreglass?


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/3571132954

[Laava]

Nope. Just the dreadful fibreglass at this stage! Wanna go halvsies in a wheelie bin?

[F5 Dave]

Well I dont live in Dunedin with that steep street. What do you have in mind? I guess I could be BiCurious.

[Laava]

Well I dont live in Dunedin with that steep street. What do you have in mind? I guess I could be BiCurious.
Put a cheapo bobber seat on it and resell as a desirable project on Trademe. It would sell, look, there are already heaps like it on there so they must be sought after?

[Drew]

Put a cheapo bobber seat on it and resell as a desirable project on Trademe. It would sell, look, there are already heaps like it on there so they must be sought after?

It's pronounced. "Sort after". By everyone selling those bits of shit.
I've had to stop correcting them, I only have so much time.

[F5 Dave]

Put a cheapo bobber seat on it and resell as a desirable project on Trademe. It would sell, look, there are already heaps like it on there so they must be sought after?
So. . . not a wheelie bin suicide plunge down Baldwin street in close embrace? :love:


I'm not disappointed so much as, - sniff - , it would have been nice to have been asked. :crybaby:

[husaberg]

Its a shame as i liked the look of the boxy Z1000 tank.
Someone was selling a dunstall kit for a Gt380 a while back looked better than that.

[Laava]

So. . . not a wheelie bin suicide plunge down Baldwin street in close embrace? :love:


I'm not disappointed so much as, - sniff - , it would have been nice to have been asked. :crybaby:
Oh, no offence meant!....

[F5 Dave]

I had a mate with a Dunstall Honda 750 taken out to 900. We went to pick it up and was a lurid purple and gold trimming 70s style.

Another bought a 500 version.

The whole concept was, take the baddest bike of the time (well past by the time we got our hands on it) and add 15kg of chop sprayed bodywork on it so the whole rider is higher and bike top heavy. Then add finest English quality clipons and rearsets (woeful) with Dunstall punched on them to make a bike worse than you started with. But it did look kinda 70s cool.

[Dadpole]

I recall, back in the day, Dunstall getting flak over their 'Finest English quality clipons' parting company with the clamps when under use. :lol: