Advice for a 6'3" 100kg guy.

[l2edBaron]

Hey guys I'm new to the forums and I was thinking of buying a Honda CR125 so I was hoping I could ask you guys for advice.
I'm worried that a CR125 would be a bit small because I'm 6'3" and weigh about 100 kg's.
I'm not too worried about the power just worried about the physical size of the CR125.
I haven't had much experience with dirt bikes, but I do have quite a bit of experience riding a Honda Chaly like a maniac off road... :lol:
So, would a CR125 be decent?
Also, does anyone have any suggestions for any other good cheap bikes for beginners?

[Akzle]

ktm640 .

[scott411]

im 6 foot and 95 kg and can ride a 125 faster than most poeple can ride anything, you will need to go to heavier springs to get the suspension to work properly,

my old man is 6 foot and over 100kg and he rides a KDX200, again with heavier springs,

small capacity bikes are fun to ride, and great to learn on, the lack of power makes you become a better rider,

[gwynfryn]

A cr125 is a full size bike, so it will have similar dimensions to most full size dirt bikes regardless of capacity. High bend bars ,bar rises, tall seats etc are available .
It can be false economy buying a cheap bike, just do your research before you buy and factor in all the riding gear you will need.

[James Deuce]

Put some weight on, you string bean.

[Stylo]

' im 6 foot and 95 kg and can ride a 125 faster than most poeple can ride anything'

Discretion is always the better part of valour

[300weatherby]

im 6 foot and 95 kg and can ride a 125 faster than most poeple can ride anything, you will need to go to heavier springs to get the suspension to work properly,

my old man is 6 foot and over 100kg and he rides a KDX200, again with heavier springs,

small capacity bikes are fun to ride, and great to learn on, the lack of power makes you become a better rider,

Really? gimmie your laptimes, Ruapuna, Levels, Teretonga, Taupo and Manfield, usually only a sub 50k 12 year old can get a 125 going faster than most people can ride anything, and that's on a GP bike............:blink:

[Kickaha]

Really? gimmie your laptimes, Ruapuna, Levels, Teretonga, Taupo and Manfield, usually only a sub 50k 12 year old can get a 125 going faster than most people can ride anything, and that's on a GP bike............:blink:

I don't think he is talking about on the seal

[haydes55]

In my most likely wrong opinion, I'd go bigger. If you are on a 125 smoker, you will need more skill to keep it in the power band to go forwards. If you are a true beginner, a lazier 4 stroke will be easier to recover from being in the wrong gear or straight fucking up a corner. I'd go for a crf250/wr250 etc. if I were in your boots.

[thorns]

6ft3 110kgs, currently riding a YZ125, completely stock apart from heavier springs for my fat ass.
By far the most fun I have had on a dirt bike, gotta work for it, but nothing better than when you pass someone on a 250/450!

Just such fun, feels like your going a million miles an hour with that motor screaming, and clicking gears!
All my mates were giving me crap when I first got it, but a few have had to eat humble pie, as my speed and confidence has increased, and I have actually moved towards the front of our group on the MX tracks.

However, if your into trail riding, not motocross, would probably suggest something abit bigger, they are a PITA on hill climbs, doable, but can be frustrating if your not experienced.

[takitimu]

' im 6 foot and 95 kg and can ride a 125 faster than most poeple can ride anything'

Discretion is always the better part of valour

Aye, I surely hope you know who scott411 is and you can back that up with better skills than him, otherwise discretion would say you keep quiet.

[Crisis management]

Welcome to KB and play spot the road riders......:rolleyes:

Listen to Scotts' advice he has the riding credentials to back it up.

I don't know about the CR but be aware that some of the "little" bikes may have slightly smaller frames, my 200 EXC was 90% of a full frame size and you would want a full size bike.

[takitimu]

Really? gimmie your laptimes, Ruapuna, Levels, Teretonga, Taupo and Manfield, usually only a sub 50k 12 year old can get a 125 going faster than most people can ride anything, and that's on a GP bike............:blink:

Ill take on any road bike you pick, the more cc the better around our mx track and that's at my skill level not scott's, just a thought though, you do realise a cr125 is a motocross bike right ??.

Back to the op, cr125 is a smart call. Heavier springs and enjoy, I regularly get passed like I am standing still by a local guy on a yz125.

[ktm84mxc]

Yes a 125 is great to learn on and Scotty can ride a 125 faster then most on the dirt not to sure how he went on his KR150 road racing though.
Go to a few shops and try sitting on a few 125's for size , a CR is getting long in the tooth as the last 1's were made in 07. KTM, Yam and Husky are the only makers still selling 125's in NZ in any volume as new models. Yes you can get high seats, bar risers etc to help you fit, some even go to making a frame conversion kit to help.

[Crisis management]

Yes you can get high seats, bar risers etc to help you fit, some even go to making a frame conversion kit to help.

Just to take a bit of a detour... I've never been a fan of bar risers finding they encourage a too upright position and disconnect the rider from the front end a bit, I've no MX experience (trail / adventure rider only) so could be talking out of my arse. When I had a 640 KTM there was a huge difference in the way the bike handled when I removed the risers, yes it was a more cramped standing position but the benefits in additional front end feel was huge.
I realise that a tall bastard may "want" risers but I wonder if that's a good solution? Chris Birch is a similar size and he runs flatter bars than stock for example.

[scott411]

Just to take a bit of a detour... I've never been a fan of bar risers finding they encourage a too upright position and disconnect the rider from the front end a bit, I've no MX experience (trail / adventure rider only) so could be talking out of my arse. When I had a 640 KTM there was a huge difference in the way the bike handled when I removed the risers, yes it was a more cramped standing position but the benefits in additional front end feel was huge.
I realise that a tall bastard may "want" risers but I wonder if that's a good solution? Chris Birch is a similar size and he runs flatter bars than stock for example.

on a motocross bike you should be standing most of the time, and also you are much more forward on the bike so it does not have the disconect that you would feel on the road,

Chris Birch is no where near 6 foot 3,

personally i dont run rises, just a taller bend of bar, handlebar and lever set up is a personal thing, and the latest trend in MX is low and flat, and pulled back further and leavers higher than what it was 10 years ago,

[Pornstar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GiRtQZlnbw
One of these should haul ya around ok.

[300weatherby]

Ill take on any road bike you pick, the more cc the better around our mx track and that's at my skill level not scott's, just a thought though, you do realise a cr125 is a motocross bike right ??.

Back to the op, cr125 is a smart call. Heavier springs and enjoy, I regularly get passed like I am standing still by a local guy on a yz125.

Yeah, dirt. Opps! No knee down trailbraking into the apex then......

[Jay GTI]

In my most likely wrong opinion, I'd go bigger. If you are on a 125 smoker, you will need more skill to keep it in the power band to go forwards. If you are a true beginner, a lazier 4 stroke will be easier to recover from being in the wrong gear or straight fucking up a corner. I'd go for a crf250/wr250 etc. if I were in your boots.

Yep, you're right that you're wrong. A CR125 will require a bit more skill to get the best out of, but they are by no means difficult to ride and any issues with riding it will teach better riding skills. Larger capacity 4Ts teach lazy riding and poor technique, lots of my shitty riding skill comes directly from riding bikes with lots of power, which I used to compensate for my bad riding by twisting the throttle more.

Last 125 I rode was a CR, I'm not 6'3, but at the time I was around 110kg and it wasn't struggling to haul me around at all. In fact, it was so much fun trying to keep it on the pipe and riding everywhere on wide open throttle, I've been seriously considering a 125 (or more likely a 150) as my next bike. I know it would pay dividends with my skill level too.

Scott's onto it, that is all the advice needed here.

[Jay GTI]

Yeah, dirt. Opps! No knee down trailbraking into the apex then......

No we often get our knees down into the apex, but it's usually followed by the rest of our bodies and the bike going off to play in the scenery without us.

[Crisis management]

Chris Birch is no where near 6 foot 3,

Hey, from my eyeball height anyone over 5'10" looks 6',3".:facepalm:

[takitimu]

Hey, from my eyeball height anyone over 5'10" looks 6',3".:facepalm:

Mmm, he's a smidge under 6 foot 1, taller than scotty me thinks :)

[scott411]

Mmm, he's a smidge under 6 foot 1, taller than scotty me thinks :)

only fucken barely, and i jump higher anyway, ;)

[Kendoll]

Hey guys I'm new to the forums and I was thinking of buying a Honda CR125 so I was hoping I could ask you guys for advice.
I'm worried that a CR125 would be a bit small because I'm 6'3" and weigh about 100 kg's.

I'm bloody jealous! You can touch the ground on pretty much anything...wish I had that problem!!

I'm 5'3" and resigned to the idea of an XT250 because it's low enough for me <_< Rode my partner's KTM690 enduro but have to jump off at every stop and can't get the sidestand up or down without help. :facepalm:

[takitimu]

only fucken barely, and i jump higher anyway, ;)

Engine assisted for sure, natural aspiration I am not convinced ;)

[Kendoll]

[QUOTE=Chris Birch is a similar size and he runs flatter bars than stock for example.[/QUOTE]

Also, what Birchy does is kinda irrelevant to most of us mortals - that guy is just ridiculous!! I've seen him riding an 1190 adventure with road tyres on it like it was a full dirt bike... That guy = LEGEND :Punk:

[scott411]

Engine assisted for sure, natural aspiration I am not convinced ;)

he did offer to ride a SX of mine after i did the first red bull city X, he was rather pissed at the time,

[Crisis management]

Also, what Birchy does is kinda irrelevant to most of us mortals - that guy is just ridiculous!!

I disagree, the reason I look at what better riders are doing is so I can learn from them, I'm more than happy to pick anyones' brain for suggestions, you never know when something will work for you.

[l2edBaron]

Cheers guys for the quick responses.
Its good to know that there are other tall cunts like me who ride hahahha.
Very interesting and informative posts and it has helped me out greatly.

[ktm84mxc]

6'3 is not tall for an MX rider there are a lot of riders over 6'6 , some have raced at GP level who were giants in there day eg Jack van Velthoven, Heinz Kinigadner . There's a ex pro basket baller in the States who races VMX and he stands over 7'.
Modern MX racers seem to be getting shorter as the muscle required to tame the old school 500's is not required any more, Ken Dejeiker aside he's the exception and the one guy you can't muscle around.

[Jay GTI]

6'3 is not tall for an MX rider there are a lot of riders over 6'6 , some have raced at GP level who were giants in there day eg Jack van Velthoven, Heinz Kinigadner . There's a ex pro basket baller in the States who races VMX and he stands over 7'.
Modern MX racers seem to be getting shorter as the muscle required to tame the old school 500's is not required any more, Ken Dejeiker aside he's the exception and the one guy you can't muscle around.

They've talked about the height issue during the AMA SX a few times, shorter guys apparently have the advantage of being able to transition from sitting to standing a lot more quickly, as there's less distance to travel, but equally the taller guys have more bum clearance in the whoops.