Now this is plain PC bollox

[Biff]

I have a letter in front of me from the a well known international organisation. An organisation that my organisation does a considerable amount of business with. The letter comes from their "Human Rights Division". Get a load of this shit:

It's with much dismay that upon reading some of your organisations technical literature.........we feel that the use of the term Master & Slave (Biff - a term used by techies around the world to describe everything from hard drives to servers) is totally inappropriate.......using the terminology "male & female" (Biff - which is used to descibe plubgs ans sockets for fucks sake!) has sexual connotations and does little to reduce the barriers found in many organisations between male and female workers.......we feel that using the term "coloured wires" could incite racial prejudice....

Oh for fucks sake - get a proper job you twats! :mad:
It's an American organisation by the way.

[zadok]

Absolutely crazy :weird:

[bungbung]

There is something like that at snopes from a couple of years back:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/master.asp

[poorbastard]

It's an American organisation by the way.

Well doesn't that explain a bit.

Dickheads hope your just going to ignore it.

[MSTRS]

You are joking? Aren't you? Huh? For shame. You Racist, Sexist, Deviant, you. To show your contrition, go fix that nice neighbour's PC.

[TonyB]

Eh?!? Your kidding right?

[Motu]

Coloured wires?....oops,I'm sure you mean ''colored'' wires surely?

Black
White
Yellow
Brown
Red
.
.
Green??
Blue??

Getting ready for Martians eh?

[Squiggles]

jesus, they've got to be joking....

[bugjuice]

lmfha.. that's just beyond stupid.. just too easy to slag them off, so I'll just let them dig away while we laugh..
morons..

[Waylander]

All this critisism from a nation who is giving back land to someone who wasn't here when his ancestors lived on it and doesn't even want it for any heritage things but simply becouse it is worth money now and is most likely only 1/25th indigenous. BTW they also kicked someone else off the land when they got here and apparently ate them.

Over PC my foot.

[bungbung]

This from a nation who is giving back land to someone who wasn't here when his ancestors lived on it and doesn't even want it for any heritage things but simply becouse it is worth money now and is most likely only 1/25th indigenous. BTW they also kicked someone else off the land when they got here and apparently ate them.

Over PC my foot.

I think you'll find that the PC author is from a country you are very familiar with...

[scumdog]

They've got you sussed for the deviant you are..... :motu: :woohoo:

P.C.? A way for weak minorities to inflict their will on the stronger majority... :angry2:

[Waylander]

I think you'll find that the PC author is from a country you are very familiar with...
I was refering to the replies posted in this thread.

[onearmedbandit]

I was refering to the replies posted in this thread.

Well Waylander it does seem that a lot of the over PC crap does come from the good old US of A.

[Blackbird]

Hi Biff

Go to your local library and ask for 2 books by Bob Jones (no Welsh connections as far as I know :wait:) The first is called "Letters" and the other is called "More Letters" (I think). In case you don't know, Bob is a vey wealthy property developer based in Wellington and has an absolute aversion to political correctness or boofheads in any shape or form. The books are copies of letters which he has written to people who have offended him and they're often published very publically at the time. Worth you going to a bit of effort to find them as they are hugely funny and are a wonderful guide to dealing with twats. I've since tried to emulate him! I have a copy of one of them if you're unsuccessful.

Bob J is also famous for breaking the nose of a TV1 news reporter when aforesaid reporter helicoptered in unannounced to interview him whilst he was indulging in his passion of trout fishing. :Punk: Quite a guy.

Geoff

[TonyB]

All this critisism from a nation who is giving back land to someone who wasn't here when his ancestors lived on it and doesn't even want it for any heritage things but simply becouse it is worth money now and is most likely only 1/25th indigenous. BTW they also kicked someone else off the land when they got here and apparently ate them.

Over PC my foot.
You have a point.
Like the way some child care centres have banned "Santa" from saying "ho ho ho!" at the Xmas party (clearly a slur directed at homosexuals- who new Santa was a gay-basher??).
Or nurses spending the first few weeks of their training learning how to be culturally sensitive.

How I long for the day when all this BS is consigned to history and we can all sit back and laugh about it.

[enigma51]

You should tell them to fuck off and see what they make of that!

And its not a black wire it cant helped its not white! Its a dark color wire! :motu:

[enigma51]

And hmmm we had a similiar thing at work a few days ago. Company starts with a M and ends with T perhaps

[Waylander]

Well Waylander it does seem that a lot of the over PC crap does come from the good old US of A.
I know. But Kiwi's really don't have alot of leverage to critisize (sp?) the states.

[ManDownUnder]

I have a letter in front of me from the a well known international organisation. An organisation that my organisation does a considerable amount of business with. The letter comes from their "Human Rights Division". Get a load of this shit:

It's with much dismay that upon reading some of your organisations technical literature.........we feel that the use of the term Master & Slave (Biff - a term used by techies around the world to describe everything from hard drives to servers) is totally inappropriate.......using the terminology "male & female" (Biff - which is used to descibe plubgs ans sockets for fucks sake!) has sexual connotations and does little to reduce the barriers found in many organisations between male and female workers.......we feel that using the term "coloured wires" could incite racial prejudice....

Oh for fucks sake - get a proper job you twats! :mad:
It's an American organisation by the way.

Escalate it... write back to their HR dept and ask if you're ok to use the words "Penis" and "Vagina" at work? How about "pussy", "gay" or "come"

Let them know you're taking this seriously and would appreciate a complete list of words and phrases that are to be avoided, and an example of the offending context or contexts would be similarly needed.

When they write back, let them know you've notice people removing clothes at work in a seductive manner. Raincoats, gloves, that sort of thing - oh and there was that small issue of a woman eating a banana... she did seem to be enjoying it in a perverse sort of way.

Go get 'em dude... I'll help.

[WRT]

You have a point.
Like the way some child care centres have banned "Santa" from saying "ho ho ho!" at the Xmas party (clearly a slur directed at homosexuals- who new Santa was a gay-basher??).

I had heard that there was a lady who took santa to court after he called her, not once, not twice, but THREE times a "ho" . . .

[ManDownUnder]

I know. But Kiwi's really don't have alot of leverage to critisize (sp?) the states.

I don't expect leverage - all I need are examples - I'll happily point out the shortcomings of people... Kiwis, Amercians, black, brown, red yellow or white...

Idiots need to have their faults pointed out to them - and I think that's the moral obligation of every citizen

[scumdog]

Hi Biff

Go to your local library and ask for 2 books by Bob Jones (no Welsh connections as far as I know :wait:) The first is called "Letters" and the other is called "More Letters" (I think). In case you don't know, Bob is a vey wealthy property developer based in Wellington and has an absolute aversion to political correctness or boofheads in any shape or form. The books are copies of letters which he has written to people who have offended him and they're often published very publically at the time. Worth you going to a bit of effort to find them as they are hugely funny and are a wonderful guide to dealing with twats. I've since tried to emulate him! I have a copy of one of them if you're unsuccessful.

Bob J is also famous for breaking the nose of a TV1 news reporter when aforesaid reporter helicoptered in unannounced to interview him whilst he was indulging in his passion of trout fishing. :Punk: Quite a guy.

Geoff

He was guest of honour and spoke at my graduation, he's a man after my own heart and shoves P.C. where it belongs!! :Punk:

[SpankMe]

That’s just gotta be a joke. Scary if it ain't. Before you know it they will want the words removed from the dictionary. Beware the introduction of Newspeak!!

"It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Of course the great wastage is in the verbs and adjectives, but there are hundreds of nouns that can be got rid of as well. It isn't only the synonyms; there are also the antonyms. After all, what justification is there for a word which is simply the opposite of some other word? A word contains its opposite in itself."

[Waylander]

I don't expect leverage - all I need are examples - I'll happily point out the shortcomings of people... Kiwis, Amercians, black, brown, red yellow or white...

Idiots need to have their faults pointed out to them - and I think that's the moral obligation of every citizen
All for that.

"Stupid peaple should wear a sign..." Jeff Foxworthy.

[SPman]

Aaaaah Bob Jones - one of the most un PC public figures in this country - him and George Carlin would make a great pair!!!:rofl:

[Biff]

Eh?!? Your kidding right?

I shit you not. I honestly though it was a joke when I was handed the letter by a colleague, asking me to respond to it. I though it best that I think about a response overnight as, "fuck you, you anally retentive piece of shit" doesn't tend to go down very well with customers. I can't imagine why.

[Blackbird]

He was guest of honour and spoke at my graduation, he's a man after my own heart and shoves P.C. where it belongs!! :Punk:

Yup, he says what other people think :Punk: :Punk: If ever I need cheering up, I read his letters.

Biff: re your intended response, you aren't far off the mark. When Bob Jones was asked to write a very public retraction over something he wrote, his opening paragraph to the individual was "I have shown your letter to my colleagues in the office and our unanimous opinion is that you are a prick". Then he really went to town.

Your best option may be to make the contents of the letter you received more public (a national daily should do it or Bob Jones, hehe) and let others do the work for you!

Geoff

[inlinefour]

Sign of things to come. I've got a row brewing over something as equally B/S :rofl:

[SlashWylde]

I seem to recall reading in the Herald a couple of years ago there was a town council somewhere in this land who wanted to ban the use of the words "nuts" and "nipples" in an automotive context (as in fastners grease-nipples) as the council members felt these words were offensive and innapropriate or some such. Don't think it got anywhere tho...

...sigh some people are just too stupid.

[Waylander]

I seem to recall reading in the Herald a couple of years ago there was a town council somewhere in this land who wanted to ban the use of the words "nuts" and "nipples" in an automotive context (as in fastners grease-nipples) as the council members felt these words were offensive and innapropriate or some such. Don't think it got anywhere tho...

...sigh some people are just too stupid.

Why does this make me think of the whole Aussie parliment thing about the use of the word "mate".

[mstriumph]

:clap: :rofl: PRICELESS!!!!! :rofl: :clap:
Escalate it... write back to their HR dept and ask if you're ok to use the words "Penis" and "Vagina" at work? How about "pussy", "gay" or "come"

Let them know you're taking this seriously and would appreciate a complete list of words and phrases that are to be avoided, and an example of the offending context or contexts would be similarly needed.

When they write back, let them know you've notice people removing clothes at work in a seductive manner. Raincoats, gloves, that sort of thing - oh and there was that small issue of a woman eating a banana... she did seem to be enjoying it in a perverse sort of way.

Go get 'em dude... I'll help.

[Skyryder]

I have a letter in front of me from the a well known international organisation. An organisation that my organisation does a considerable amount of business with. The letter comes from their "Human Rights Division". Get a load of this shit:

It's with much dismay that upon reading some of your organisations technical literature.........we feel that the use of the term Master & Slave (Biff - a term used by techies around the world to describe everything from hard drives to servers) is totally inappropriate.......using the terminology "male & female" (Biff - which is used to descibe plubgs ans sockets for fucks sake!) has sexual connotations and does little to reduce the barriers found in many organisations between male and female workers.......we feel that using the term "coloured wires" could incite racial prejudice....

Oh for fucks sake - get a proper job you twats! :mad:
It's an American organisation by the way.


All inspired by the Religious Right.

I was in Mitre 10 the other day looking for a female socket. Asked the female 'salesman' where I could find it. Should have seen the dirty look I got another female customer as she walked by.

Skyryder

[mstriumph]

The really annoying thing is that nobody stopped to analyse these descriptions [male, female, coloured, et al] until the pc crowd stood on their hind legs, bleated and made people self-concious about what they were saying.

Language is about communication. It does not improve communication to replace simple, graphic, universally-understandable descriptions for connectors [ie male & female] with something obscure just because it is politically correct to do so.

I think it's sad that people waste precious time and resources to try to artificially change the language to reflect principals important only to a tiny minority .............. even sadder that the majority has to make a semblance of listening to them.

:dodge:

[jazbug5]

Personally, I think that to put a negative connotation (sp?) on words simply for referring to gender or whatever betrays more about the weird mental machinations of these idiots.

It's like deciding that 'black' is (for some reason) offensive but the wishy washy 'coloured' or 'brown' are better... well, isn't that a bit like saying, well, 'nearer to white' and therefore more acceptable'...? *shakes head*

Mind you, this is quite amusing... although someone was actually paid to come up with it, which is less so.

P.S. -Waylander? What research have you done on the history of New Zealand and the Maori to feel so able to comment on it?

[Lias]

All inspired by the Religious Right.

Skyryder

Actually its nothing to do with the religious right (who for the most part are conservative , and are generally anything but politically correct.. One of the few things they have going for them IMO).

If you read the snopes link, when some poor persecuted nigger(err negro..err black.. err coloured.. err african american ...err afro-american etc) laid a complaint because a piece of video equipment had the terms "master and slave" written on it.

I wonder how terribly offended he'd be by this lego diorama lol

[ManDownUnder]

Personally, I think that to put a negative connotation (sp?) on words simply for referring to gender or whatever betrays more about the weird mental machinations of these idiots.

EXACTLY RIGHT! - BLINGO!

This and other similar comments based on race, colour, sexual orientation etc etc etc


It's like deciding that 'black' is (for some reason) offensive but the wishy washy 'coloured' or 'brown' are better... well, isn't that a bit like saying, well, 'nearer to white' and therefore more acceptable'...? *shakes head*

Yes yes and YES - It is all contextual, and for that reason alone, a general and sweeping rule is not going to work, and is actually going to offend (as it has in here) albeit the sensibilities.

I spoke with a black family in Houston a while ago, very dear friends of mine. I told them of my fears in calling them the wrong thing - and asked them what I should say...

"Black" was the answer. Negro wasn't acceptable, Afro American was also fine.

[scumdog]

EXACTLY RIGHT! - BLINGO!

This and other similar comments based on race, colour, sexual orientation etc etc etc



Yes yes and YES - It is all contextual, and for that reason alone, a general and sweeping rule is not going to work, and is actually going to offend (as it has in here) albeit the sensibilities.

I spoke with a black family in Houston a while ago, very dear friends of mine. I told them of my fears in calling them the wrong thing - and asked them what I should say...

"Black" was the answer. Negro wasn't acceptable, Afro American was also fine.

Why is Negro unacceptable??It's what they are, just like I'm a Caucasian ('Cauc') and Raybon Kan is an Asian etc.

[MSTRS]

I think it's sad that people waste precious time and resources to try to artificially change the language to reflect principals important only to a tiny minority .............. even sadder that the majority has to make a semblance of listening to them.


Can't help myself here, there's a principle involved......I think Principals are important only in their own eyes.

[RiderInBlack]

I spoke with a black family in Houston a while ago, very dear friends of mine. I told them of my fears in calling them the wrong thing - and asked them what I should say...

"Black" was the answer. Negro wasn't acceptable, Afro American was also fine.The stupid thing is that the Africian-American Rappers a calling themselves "Neggers". There is not way I'd call them that.

I find "Pakiha" officive. Try getting that PC'ed in good old NZ. Is for the Treaty Of Waitangi Grounds showing a doccumentry describing early Europeans as "White Gobbins":finger: as I was having "Moari Issues" force feed for 1 whole year as part of my Nursing Deg:finger::finger:
And then expect me to be PC?
Go get Fu*ked.

[MSTRS]

Why is Negro unacceptable??It's what they are, just like I'm a Caucasian ('Cauc') and Raybon Kan is an Asian etc.
Ask yourself how each type refers to the others when in the company of their own type. Nigger, darkie,......Whitey, honky.......Slope, sliteyes,....

[ManDownUnder]

Why is Negro unacceptable??It's what they are, just like I'm a Caucasian ('Cauc') and Raybon Kan is an Asian etc.

I don;t know (or recall now - that chat was a few years ago) but I simply took them at their (very reliable) word and chose to go with what doesn't offend - in this case "Black"

As they were explaining it to me though - they hastened to add that use of the word "Black" is offensive in some states (NY comes to mind but I'm not 100% on that) so even they had to be careful themselves...

It's a funny old world ne'st pas?

Harrassment/offence is in the ear of the beholder... what happenes in a damned if you do, damned if you don't suituation (like the whole situations Biff has outlined).

If you go into a bar and ask a female bar tender for a slippery nipple, quick fuck etc - do they have the right to get huffy? How would you ever know?

Nuts - it's all nuts (am I allowed to say that???)

[ManDownUnder]

Ask yourself how each type refers to the others when in the company of their own type. Nigger, darkie,......Whitey, honky.......Slope, sliteyes,....

Labels are contextual, as is a lot of language...

Call a friend of yours a bastard after a joke or whatever - see what happens - laughter.. comeradery etc

Call someone that doesn't like you a bastard... and brace yourself...

That's what makes it so rediculous to place all encompassing "rules" around it. THEY DON'T WORK

[MSTRS]

Labels are contextual, as is a lot of language...

Call a friend of yours a bastard after a joke or whatever - see what happens - laughter.. comeradery etc

Call someone that doesn't like you a bastard... and brace yourself...

That's what makes it so rediculous to place all encompassing "rules" around it. THEY DON'T WORK
Exactly - time and a place etc

[oldrider]

When we were kids there were two plaques on the fire place. when we got a hiding for fighting etc we had to stand and read them out loud.
The first one said. When two quarrel both are in the wrong. The second one said. Cheer up the best is yet to come. I still think of them whenever I'm in the shit or having a tough break. As for bloody PC we were always told . Sticks and stones can break your bones but names will never hurt you. Kids can equate to those things but the wankers of old are the PC pratts of today.
A good smack in the ear often did you more good than harm even if you didn't deserve it. Bloody PC pricks should be stacked up and burned. Cheers John.

[Biff]

Here ya go, another piece of PC shite that I experienced some years ago. I've just copied it from another thread where I posted some months ago.

"I used to run a company that supplied radio communication equipment to most of the UK's police forces. There was an emergency button on the top of the hand held radio that when depressed ( I was) would send out an alarm to all other police officers in the area and an emergency priority signal back to the control room. A female police officer complained and threatened legal action against both my company and her police force (greater Manchester), because when the button was pressed the LCD on the radio read "Man Down". It cost the freakin tax payer nearly 50 K pounds for my company to re-programme them, even after we gave them a 40% discount. Stupid cow."


Anyhoo - I've responded to the letter in question, and my respponse is 62 pages long. Most of it has been cut and pasted from technical manuals (belonging to my company, and about a dozen other companies, PC and electronic parts catalogues, web sites, PC magazines etc around the world ), and some of it is from this organisation own intranet site, which uses the term "colourful language". Now to me to insinuates that coloured people (especially those foul mouthed purple people) use offensive language more often than the transparent types.

He he he. Twats. :motu:

[Pixie]

I found that it was generally unacceptable to describe the connection of a plug to a socket as fucking

[ManDownUnder]

Here ya go, another piece of PC shite that I experienced some years ago. I've just copied it from another thread where I posted some months ago.

"I used to run a company that supplied radio communication equipment to most of the UK's police forces. There was an emergency button on the top of the hand held radio that when depressed ( I was) would send out an alarm to all other police officers in the area and an emergency priority signal back to the control room. A female police officer complained and threatened legal action against both my company and her police force (greater Manchester), because when the button was pressed the LCD on the radio read "Man Down". It cost the freakin tax payer nearly 50 K pounds for my company to re-programme them, even after we gave them a 40% discount. Stupid cow."



Thank God for that - I was worried that last one was an isolated incident.

Do you think I should burn my Billy Connoly collection too?

[ManDownUnder]

I found that it was generally unacceptable to describe the connection of a plug to a socket as fucking

I think that's only applicable if you plug it in and out for 2 or 3 hours... otherwise it'd be a quickie or something like that?

What about the fact the male plug gets excited by the socket?

[Pixie]

You have a point.
Like the way some child care centres have banned "Santa" from saying "ho ho ho!" at the Xmas party (clearly a slur directed at homosexuals- who new Santa was a gay-basher??).
Or nurses spending the first few weeks of their training learning how to be culturally sensitive.

How I long for the day when all this BS is consigned to history and we can all sit back and laugh about it.
So what does santa say now?
working girl,working girl,working girl

[RiderInBlack]

So what does santa say now?
working girl,working girl,working girlNo, "Yo, Yo, Yo Slapper. Yo want'a swizzle ma twizzle":devil2: