Traffic fine dodgers could lose licence

[rustyrobot]

Fine dodgers could lose their driver's licence under strict new sanctions that come into effect from February 17.

"A lot of them have chosen to ignore repeated reminders and if they remain uncooperative they'll pay for it with their driver licence".

Their licences would remain suspended until the fine was paid in full, or payment arrangements were in place. If they were caught driving while their licence was suspended they could be prosecuted, and have the vehicle they were driving seized for 28 days.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11195664


Nothing is more dangerous than NOT PAYING FINES.

[veldthui]

Good. Do the crime so do the time and pay up.
I don't agree with a couple of the fines I got but still paid up as I was doing what they said I was.

[pritch]

Was talking to a solicitor who said some young blokes here have close to $10,000 worth of fines, not too hard to do these days apparently.

Through work was talking to the Police about an accident one of the vehicles had been involved in. Cop told me that the offender had been fined but that would just have been added to the $6,000 he already owed but wasn't paying.

At that point the system is just a joke. Now they are threatening to take the car for 28 days? They should send their cars to Turners, get whatever the car is worth (not much mostly) and take that sum off the amount owed.

The PC series of TV ads were a joke and completely missed their target. The only guys I know of in this situation would never have been on a 'plane and the idea of international jet travel would never have crossed their tiny mind.

[Kickaha]

They should send their cars to Turners, get whatever the car is worth (not much mostly) and take that sum off the amount owed.
A copper I was talking to said they're already doing that, he said his crew do 1-2 a week

[FJRider]

Thousands throughout the country drive after their license is suspended ....

They can't pay because they have no money ... nor do they intend to pay ... even if they did have any ...

[Scuba_Steve]

Govt needs their head smacked in.
If fines were run legally & police not so corrupt in NZ I might not have such an issue with it but the way things are, this is BS! But I'm sure will go nicely with the soon to come Hi-Vis legislation & anti-biker laws (you know after Queenslands ones are pronounced "so successful")

[FJRider]

They must have some money to afford petrol. Lots of cheap cars coming up for auction maybe. If you dont pay your rates you can loose your house
so why should the same not apply to vehicles if you dont pay your fines.

Probably steal it ... but they wont pay their fines ... and skite on facebook about it ...

The judge eventually wipes the fine and awards PD or jail instead ... 3 months in jail and $20,000 fines wiped. Too easy ... eh .. !!!

[russd7]

a joke really, those with lots of outstanding fines dont give a toss about whether they have licence or not, they also know that if they hold off long enough they will go to court and have them wiped for a tiny bit of PD that they then wont do and end up in court and have that wiped again all the while still driving around anyway.
the judges need to get more balls and confiscate cars and crush them regardless of who owns them, so if the car is financed then make the finance companies liable, that will make them take more car who they lend to, if the car belongs to mum and dad make them either say the car was taken unlawfully and therefor force a conviction on those grounds or they lose their car, and same for mates or grandparents.

[scumdog]

Govt needs their head smacked in.
If fines were run legally & police not so corrupt in NZ I might not have such an issue with it but the way things are, this is BS! But I'm sure will go nicely with the soon to come Hi-Vis legislation & anti-biker laws (you know after Queenslands ones are pronounced "so successful")

Wa-wah-fuckin'-wa - tin-foil hats all 'round chaps!:rolleyes:

[scumdog]

Fine dodgers could lose their driver's licence under strict new sanctions that come into effect from February 17.

"A lot of them have chosen to ignore repeated reminders and if they remain uncooperative they'll pay for it with their driver licence".

Their licences would remain suspended until the fine was paid in full, or payment arrangements were in place. If they were caught driving while their licence was suspended they could be prosecuted, and have the vehicle they were driving seized for 28 days.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11195664


Nothing is more dangerous than NOT PAYING FINES.

I have reason to believe that unpaid reparation is going to be dealt with the same way....;)

[Blackflagged]

Never had any outstanding fine in reality but had a speeding fine once. Paid it. They said i hadn`t, took 2 years to sort it out.When i got a copy of the cheaque, the lady at the Bank said the same thing happened to her.Hopefully the systems have improved.

[Akzle]

funny enough, if you dont have a license in the first place they cunt fine you.

[BigAl]

a joke really, those with lots of outstanding fines dont give a toss about whether they have licence or not.....

Agreed, they will still drive, licensed or not.

[Scuba_Steve]

Wa-wah-fuckin'-wa - tin-foil hats all 'round chaps!:rolleyes:

Sweet you bring the hats I'll bring the vodka

[JATZ]

I have reason to believe that unpaid reparation is going to be dealt with the same way....;)
About fuckin time !! I haven't seen a cent of the thousands I'm owed

[scumdog]

funny enough, if you dont have a license in the first place they cunt fine you.

But you can have a licence number..Without even having a licence!


THEN they can fine you...:wacko:

[Akzle]

But you can have a licence number..Without even having a licence!


THEN they can fine you...:wacko:

but that needs the name of a person.
Im not a person...

[SNF]

but that needs the name of a person.
Im not a person...

Well what are you then?

[Laava]

Well what are you then?

He,s a troll of course!

[SNF]

He,s a troll of course!

Obviously lol I mean besides that....

[RDJ]

Well, he just passes the Turing test...

[neels]

I have reason to believe that unpaid reparation is going to be dealt with the same way....;)
About fucking time, the little prick that stole my dads cortina and crashed it in 1998 still owes me $150, he was 14 at the time so that means he's now 30 so should be able to afford it.

Although judging by the state of his parensts at the family conference (what a complete waste of time) I seriously doubt it.

[SPman]

No doubt it'll eventually end up like here, where you can lose your licence for not paying a $40 parking fine you didn't know you had, among other things! Got to keep that money rolling in folks......

[_Shrek_]

Well what are you then?

:tugger: with a BA :whistle:

[Akzle]

Well what are you then?
just a guy

:tugger: with a BA :whistle:

go and wash your mouth out!

[Grubber]

Govt needs their head smacked in.
If fines were run legally & police not so corrupt in NZ I might not have such an issue with it but the way things are, this is BS! But I'm sure will go nicely with the soon to come Hi-Vis legislation & anti-biker laws (you know after Queenslands ones are pronounced "so successful")

This has to be a rev up doesnt it??
Fines run legal????
Corrupt police????
What age are you livin in?

[Scuba_Steve]

This has to be a rev up doesnt it??
Fines run legal????
Corrupt police????
What age are you livin in?

Nope
The way fines are run is illegal under NZ legislation
Police head up top position for most corrupt sector in NZ, beating out politicians & lawyers for the position
2014 currently, how far in the sand is your head?

[Grubber]

Nope
The way fines are run is illegal under NZ legislation
Police head up top position for most corrupt sector in NZ, beating out politicians & lawyers for the position
2014 currently, how far in the sand is your head?

Not as far as yours obviously. If it was so corrupt and illegal how come no one has questioned it or heard of it for that matter.

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[Akzle]

Not as far as yours obviously. If it was so corrupt and illegal how come no one has questioned it or heard of it for that matter.

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because theyre ignorant dipshites like you.

All you other twats would be the first to bleed out your collective vagina when they start taking licenses for speeding, y'know, for safety. Get them fucking hoon bikies offa the road! They will scratch up your suv when they run into you and then you have the drama of insurance! Fucking hassle, safer roads without them!

[TheDemonLord]

because theyre ignorant dipshites like you.

All you other twats would be the first to bleed out your collective vagina when they start taking licenses for speeding, y'know, for safety. Get them fucking hoon bikies offa the road! They will scratch up your suv when they run into you and then you have the drama of insurance! Fucking hassle, safer roads without them!

I hate to agree with Akzle (almost on principle) but he does have a point, too many times have I had run ins with holier than thou Officers (one rule for the Police and a different one for the rest of NZ) also had issues with the Police Complaints process (useless is an understatement, especially when I had proof that the 'investigating officer' didn't actually do fuck all investigation) and have a major issue with the almost perfect competence when it comes to 'crimes' that can be profitable for the state compared to the hilarious incompetence for other crimes (like when you give the police a DVD with the video footage of a Burglary at a business premises from the CCTV system, and a week later you follow up with them because you haven't heard anything only to be told 'Oh, sorry, we lost that DVD')

So yes, the NZ police system is a shambles at best and woefully corrupt at worst.

I support better measures for fine enforcement and collection, but this most come After we have a better system and organisation that distributes the fines and deals with complaints around them....

[Tazz]

Not as far as yours obviously. If it was so corrupt and illegal how come no one has questioned it or heard of it for that matter.




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[St_Gabriel]

Well, he just passes the Turing test...

You sure on that???

[Grubber]

because theyre ignorant dipshites like you.

All you other twats would be the first to bleed out your collective vagina when they start taking licenses for speeding, y'know, for safety. Get them fucking hoon bikies offa the road! They will scratch up your suv when they run into you and then you have the drama of insurance! Fucking hassle, safer roads without them!

Ya don't think it might have something to do with the attitude some of us have regardring these types of things.
Possibly it may have something to do with us keeping our noses clean tad more often and therefore not having said attitude towards the law as such.
Just sayin like.

[Akzle]

Ya don't think it might have something to do with the attitude some of us have regardring these types of things.
Possibly it may have something to do with us keeping our noses clean tad more often and therefore not having said attitude towards the law as such.
Just sayin like.

yes. You comply with what they say and dont ever question.
Good citizen.


(as a side note you are factually ignorant and sound very boring. Youre not invited to my birthday.)

[Grubber]

And funny but I don't even have to try. It comes naturally. Now let's talk about how it works for you.....

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[scumdog]

yes. You comply with what they say and dont ever question.
Good citizen.


(as a side note you are factually ignorant and sound very boring. Youre not invited to my birthday.)



Oh yes, I've always found asking lots of questions solves all my problems and makes things better.

When's your birthday anyway???

[Old Steve]

Govt needs their head smacked in.
If fines were run legally & police not so corrupt in NZ I might not have such an issue with it but the way things are, this is BS! But I'm sure will go nicely with the soon to come Hi-Vis legislation & anti-biker laws (you know after Queenslands ones are pronounced "so successful")

You're talking through a hole in your head, probably where your brain should be.

I live in QLD, and you just don't know what corrupt police are, NZ police are squeeky clean compared to Qld cops. Also the biker laws will be one of the things which bring the Newman government down next election. At one stage the Ulysees Club was on the list of criminal motorcycle gangs. All the criminal motorcycle gangs are now driving cars and not wearing patched clothing. They caught 3 out of town bikers who'd come to QLD on holiday (and maybe a treaty discussion). At one stage lawyers couldn't even act in bikers defence because they could be arrested for conducting business with a criminal motorcycle gang. The whole thing is a farce.

I think the only reason I haven't been pulled over so far is that I ride an ex-police bike - mind you it's a wonder the criminal motorcycle gangs aren't all riding around on white Honda ST1100s too!

[Akzle]

Oh yes, I've always found asking lots of questions solves all my problems and makes things better.

When's your birthday anyway???

october the 7th.
Im expecting some goodies from the impound cupboard, since you asked.

[scumdog]

october the 7th.
Im expecting some goodies from the impound cupboard, since you asked.

Choice...I've a '78 Lada we've got in the impound, pop down on the 7th and pick it up!!:woohoo:

[Akzle]

Choice...I've a '78 Lada we've got in the impound, pop down on the 7th and pick it up!!:woohoo:

as long as the glovebox still has the cocaine and handgun, im in!

[RDJ]

Ya don't think it might have something to do with the attitude some of us have regardring these types of things.
Possibly it may have something to do with us keeping our noses clean tad more often and therefore not having said attitude towards the law as such.
Just sayin like.

You might also take into account that many of us started with a lot of respect for the forces of law and order and came reluctantly to an understanding they are not looking out for us but for themselves. Based on said forces not turning up when we (rarely) have asked them to help (when others have perpetrated assault, burglary etc.), but being very much on the spot and ubiquitously represented by speed cameras at 106km/hr...

[Grubber]

You might also take into account that many of us started with a lot of respect for the forces of law and order and came reluctantly to an understanding they are not looking out for us but for themselves. Based on said forces not turning up when we (rarely) have asked them to help (when others have perpetrated assault, burglary etc.), but being very much on the spot and ubiquitously represented by speed cameras at 106km/hr...

Never had that problem. Perhaps staying clear of venues and people thay may atytact that behaviour works in my favour.

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[RDJ]

Never had that problem. Perhaps staying clear of venues and people thay may atytact that behaviour works in my favour.

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Glib dismissal and imagined assumptions. Careful how you go - it will be a long fall from that high horse you're on when reality catches up with you.

[Grubber]

Glib dismissal and imagined assumptions. Careful how you go - it will be a long fall from that high horse you're on when reality catches up with you.

Im old enough to have seen itt all fella. Wont be falling anywhere anytime soon. Imagined, I doubt it ! Me think you are somewhat delusional if you think I have missed something along the way.

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[Laava]

as long as the glovebox still has the cocaine and handgun, im in!

You,re a dreamer. They have woolly gloves in them to keep your hands warm while you are pushing them in winter.

[Akzle]

Im old enough to have seen itt all fella. Wont be falling anywhere anytime soon. Imagined, I doubt it ! Me think you are somewhat delusional if you think I have missed something along the way.

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well, you couldnt tell a man in your own home that had smoked dope, so....

[Grubber]

well, you couldnt tell a man in your own home that had smoked dope, so....

Just goes to show you trust no one that dabbles with dope, as it seems they aren't very honest or respectful. Guessin you fall into this category too aye!
The fact that we found him to be rather fuckin odd would seem to me to be an indicator! Once again , your category i believe.

[Grubber]

[QUOTE=Tazz;1130672397][CENTER]

Red rep all ya like ya donkey.
What an imagination you have little fella. like because i got stuff, that means it's ok to steal It???? Are you for fuckin real. The opposite end of the spectrum, but i guess if it suits your argument aye.
:tugger:

[Akzle]

Just goes to show you trust no one that dabbles with dope, as it seems they aren't very honest or respectful. Guessin you fall into this category too aye!
The fact that we found him to be rather fuckin odd would seem to me to be an indicator! Once again , your category i believe.

ha bloody ha, you found him polite and all.
honest? he honestly told you!
respect? what, there's a sign on your door says "no one who uses cannabis allowed"?

you don't have a damned clue, about this or much else by the sounds.

[Grubber]

ha bloody ha, you found him polite and all.
honest? he honestly told you!
respect? what, there's a sign on your door says "no one who uses cannabis allowed"?

you don't have a damned clue, about this or much else by the sounds.

Yea I do actually ya retard. I know you don't trust dope smokers. Why the fuck should anyone put a sign on the door when its already illegal, wow that made fuckin sense on your part dude. You live in your little mental world if ya like. I believe there is a very small percentage of the human race that will reside with you.

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[Akzle]

Yea I do actually ya retard. I know you don't trust dope smokers. Why the fuck should anyone put a sign on the door when its already illegal, wow that made fuckin sense on your part dude. You live in your little mental world if ya like. I believe there is a very small percentage of the human race that will reside with you.

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i trust dope smokers. i'd trust any given one more than i'd trust someone with your attitude.

you've never ever driven at 101km/h? you've never been drunk? those things are illegal, and i'll betcha have...

but hey. don't question what's illegal or why, just comply.

[Grubber]

i trust dope smokers. i'd trust any given one more than i'd trust someone with your attitude.

you've never ever driven at 101km/h? you've never been drunk? those things are illegal, and i'll betcha have...

but hey. don't question what's illegal or why, just comply.

Jeez is being drunk illegal now. Well ill be buggered, ya learn something new everyday. I must have been drunk when it was still legal then. 101km yea I have. But if I get caught I pay the fuckin bill and dont winge about it. I just smart enough not to do it in areas with safety issues for fellow roadusers or the plod. Of coarse YOU would trust a dope smoker. All part of the package really init!

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[HenryDorsetCase]

Jeez is being drunk illegal now.

In certain circumstances absolutely. Whilst driving for example. Or in public. Whilst travelling on a plane.

All sorts of different times really.

You guys should get a room. After this wee fight your makeup sex will be unbelievable.

____________________-
getting back on topic:

is this "proposal" not just confirmation that the po po are revenue collectors first and foremost? One submits that it is. and that their focus (particularly in road pleecing) should be on road safety. But what do I know?

[Akzle]

101km yea I have


Why the fuck should anyone put a sign on the door when its already illegal

your logic is astounding.

so, you're the only individual "smart enough" and capable of deciding when it is "safe" to infringe legislation, that would cause no harm to anyone else?

[SMOKEU]

Just goes to show you trust no one that dabbles with dope, as it seems they aren't very honest or respectful. Guessin you fall into this category too aye!
The fact that we found him to be rather fuckin odd would seem to me to be an indicator! Once again , your category i believe.

I'd trust a stoner over a drunk (all other things remaining equal) any day of the week.




you don't have a damned clue, about this or much else by the sounds.

+1 to this.


i trust dope smokers. i'd trust any given one more than i'd trust someone with your attitude.

you've never ever driven at 101km/h? you've never been drunk? those things are illegal, and i'll betcha have...

but hey. don't question what's illegal or why, just comply.

Yup!


Or in public.

It's not illegal to be intoxicated in public under current NZ legislation. What the drunk person does while intoxicated is an entirely different matter.

[Grubber]

your logic is astounding.

so, you're the only individual "smart enough" and capable of deciding when it is "safe" to infringe legislation, that would cause no harm to anyone else?

There is a massive difference between someone stealing and doing 101kph.
Most peple would be able to figure this one out without an explanation.
Thus is why i won't waste me time telling you as you are not MOST people by a long shot.
No traffic at all makes it pretty damn safe to do the 101kph and i doubt i am on my own figuring that one out.

[Grubber]

In certain circumstances absolutely. Whilst driving for example. Or in public. Whilst travelling on a plane.

All sorts of different times really.

You guys should get a room. After this wee fight your makeup sex will be unbelievable.

____________________-
getting back on topic:

is this "proposal" not just confirmation that the po po are revenue collectors first and foremost? One submits that it is. and that their focus (particularly in road pleecing) should be on road safety. But what do I know?

If you read the post you would have seen that none of the above was mentioned, just "getting drunk" and there is no legal bounds involving that.

AS for the "proposal". There surely is a segment of revenue collecting for sure, someone has to get paid for the hours spent etc so money needs to come from somewhere. But i reckon taking the car is removing the offenders from the road which would in turn make the road safer would it not. Just like removing a murderer from our society makes it safer for the rest of us. 2 elements to your statement i reckon.

[Grubber]

I'd trust a stoner over a drunk (all other things remaining equal) any day of the week.



+1 to this.



Yup!



It's not illegal to be intoxicated in public under current NZ legislation. What the drunk person does while intoxicated is an entirely different matter.

Then along came the other Tossa.
Typical, was wondering how long it would be before you reared your ugly head.:laugh:

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's not illegal to be intoxicated in public under current NZ legislation. What the drunk person does while intoxicated is an entirely different matter.

You may be partially correct: the offence is the drinking, not the being drunk.

Summary Offences Act 1981 s38


38 Drinking in public place

(1) Every person is liable to a fine not exceeding $300 who, in or on any aircraft, hovercraft, ship or ferry or other vessel, train, or vehicle that is carrying passengers for reward,—

(a) drinks any intoxicating liquor; or

(b) supplies or offers any intoxicating liquor to any other person for consumption there; or

(c) has in his possession or under his control any intoxicating liquor for consumption there.

(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), if any aircraft, hovercraft, ship or ferry or other vessel, train, or vehicle carries any passengers while under charter it shall be deemed to be carrying those passengers for reward.

(3) Without limiting subsection (1), every person under the age of 18 years commits an offence and is liable to a fine not exceeding $300 who, in any public place (or in a vehicle in any public place) and while not accompanied by his or her parent or legal guardian,—

(a) drinks any intoxicating liquor; or

(b) has in his possession or under his control any intoxicating liquor for consumption there.

(4) This section does not apply in respect of any licensed premises under the Sale of Liquor Act 1989.

[SMOKEU]

You may be partially correct: the offence is the drinking, not the being drunk.

Summary Offences Act 1981 s38

(1) Every person is liable to a fine not exceeding $300 who, in or on any aircraft, hovercraft, ship or ferry or other vessel, train, or vehicle that is carrying passengers for reward,—

(a) drinks any intoxicating liquor; or

(b) supplies or offers any intoxicating liquor to any other person for consumption there; or

(c) has in his possession or under his control any intoxicating liquor for consumption there.

There must be something I'm missing here. How do airlines get away with serving alcohol aboard the aircraft?

[Akzle]

No traffic at all makes it pretty damn safe to do the 101kph and i doubt i am on my own figuring that one out.

but smoking a joint by myself in the middle of two hundred acres.... that's gotta be illegal cos it's so dangerous, right?

[Laava]

[BB]
but smoking a joint by myself in the middle of two hundred acres.... that's gotta be illegal cos it's so dangerous, right?

Uuumm! And you,re not even a proper person!

[Akzle]

[BB]

Uuumm! And you,re not even a proper person!

have you actually read up or just think youre being facetious?
Watch that igan video i posted and you might get a clue. Then, youre fairly set on staying blind innit.

[HenryDorsetCase]

There must be something I'm missing here. How do airlines get away with serving alcohol aboard the aircraft?

They are licenced premises. Specifically on-licences if memory serves. Its in the Sale of Likker act somewhere. From memory the plane is treated as a little piece of NZ even when overseas, licenced as a pub would be, and NZ likker laws apply.

edit had a quick squizz at the Sale of Likker act AKA THE SALE AND SUPPLY OF ALCOHOL ACT 2012, and very briefly at the Civil Aviation Act 1990 but cannot find any authority for the above proposition. I think they are correct but will ask the barrister I am meeting tomorrow (on someone elses $400 an hour....) what the answer is. I have looked at this but years ago...

[Grubber]

but smoking a joint by myself in the middle of two hundred acres.... that's gotta be illegal cos it's so dangerous, right?

In your case, standing anywhere with or without a joint would be dangerous!

[Akzle]

In your case, standing anywhere with or without a joint would be dangerous!

attaway grubby, attaway.

fucking moron. :facepalm:

[Scuba_Steve]

They are licenced premises. Specifically on-licences if memory serves. Its in the Sale of Likker act somewhere. From memory the plane is treated as a little piece of NZ even when overseas, licenced as a pub would be, and NZ likker laws apply.

edit had a quick squizz at the Sale of Likker act AKA THE SALE AND SUPPLY OF ALCOHOL ACT 2012, and very briefly at the Civil Aviation Act 1990 but cannot find any authority for the above proposition. I think they are correct but will ask the barrister I am meeting tomorrow (on someone elses $400 an hour....) what the answer is. I have looked at this but years ago...

Am interested to hear the outcome; Would not be at all surprised if they were in breach of law

[Laava]

have you actually read up or just think youre being facetious?
Watch that igan video i posted and you might get a clue. Then, youre fairly set on staying blind innit.

Of course I was being facetious!
Who gives a flying fuck about you standing in the middle of a paddock huffing on some weed? Not me, not anyone on here I bet and prob not even the cops.

[SMOKEU]

Who gives a flying fuck about you standing in the middle of a paddock huffing on some weed? Not me, not anyone on here I bet and prob not even the cops.

I'm sure Grubber would care, because the joint might blow up and cause a nuclear meltdown or something.

[_Shrek_]

must be time for it to go to PD :corn:

[Grubber]

I'm sure Grubber would care, because the joint might blow up and cause a nuclear meltdown or something.

Typical reply. No substance!

[SMOKEU]

Typical reply. No substance!

Which is no different to many of your "arguments".

[Akzle]

Of course I was being facetious!
Who gives a flying fuck about you standing in the middle of a paddock huffing on some weed? Not me, not anyone on here I bet and prob not even the cops.

i was speaking more to your understanding or comprehension of the idea of a "person"... as it's applied legally.

[RDJ]

Am interested to hear the outcome; Would not be at all surprised if they were in breach of law

Not quite what you asked, but airports with their operating license, are granted (automatically) the license to store, dispense and sell liquor - so that covers what you drink in airport bars, and what gets loaded onto planes at stopovers.

Individual airliners dispensing grog on board is licensed - or better said, permitted - by their base's regional (international) equivalent of a Airline Beverage Permit. In countries that bother to regulate that.

[Grubber]

Which is no different to many of your "arguments".

Another one with no substance!
Keep it comin fella, ya doin just fine!:2thumbsup

[bogan]

Another one with no substance!
Keep it comin fella, ya doin just fine!:2thumbsup

I thought your problem with those guys was they had too much 'substance' :shifty:

[Grubber]

I thought your problem with those guys was they had too much 'substance' :shifty:

Haha well done. Yea you could be right.

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[Laava]

i was speaking more to your understanding or comprehension of the idea of a "person"... as it's applied legally.

Meh sounds pretty boring.

[scumdog]

Of course I was being facetious!
Who gives a flying fuck about you standing in the middle of a paddock huffing on some weed? Not me, not anyone on here I bet and prob not even the cops.

Hell I don't care...c'mon, he's not even a person...

[scumdog]

Am interested to hear the outcome; Would not be at all surprised if they were in breach of law

Then be prepared to be unsurprised...

[Akzle]

Hell I don't care...c'mon, he's not even a person...

i bet your spiel would fuck up if you had to concede that IRL.

[SMOKEU]

Another one with no substance!


I've still got a wee bit of "substance" left.


I thought your problem with those guys was they had too much 'substance' :shifty:

Blasphemy! One can never have too many buds.

[rastuscat]

Im not a person...

Well said. Seconded.

[Akzle]

Well said. Seconded.

your spiel and all.

Can i get that in writing?

[Juniper]

I think it's a good idea overall.

I was so ashamed at the 1 speeding ticket I got I paid it before I got home. And was appaled when she asked me if I wanted to pay the whole thing. Of course I did!!