Waitangi anyone?

[awa355]

So being patriotic NZ'rs, I suppose all you KB members will be heading up north for Waitangi day. Watching Honi's mum throwing mud ( or sommit ) at the PM?? :(:( or sitting in front of the telly watching procedings?

I'd love to go but hopefully, I will have another day in my life to live.

We tend to sling off at the Americans a lot, but you have to hand it to them, the 4th July means something to be an American.

Do you feel that Waitangi is our ' National ' day?

[tippersv]

nope, going fishing........:done:

[SMOKEU]

:corn: :corn:

[bogan]

Nope, which is why I won't even take the day off.

[BuzzardNZ]

nope, going fishing........:done:

Same deal here!

[TheDemonLord]

Masterbating as usual

[Bikemad]

gonna be headin up north on wanktangi day to check out some propertys on karikari peninsula........will be giving the BOI a wide berth......

[Akzle]

i'll be busy shooting flags and playing with my taiahahahahhahahahah nah fuck that.

[Swoop]

Out on the boat that day, ignoring the "national day of protest" that the bullshit artists are turning it into.

Quite disgusted at the retarded harawera-ist who seems to have an issue with Sir Jerry Mateparae. A better GG would be hard to find.

[oldrider]

Afraid Maori should try walking their own talk on that day ... "Honour the treaty" ... it is supposed to be a day of togetherness and forgiveness FFS!

A day for despite all ... just moving on together and getting our shit sorted during the rest of the year!

If it aint gonna be that, I would rather just forget it! Fuck the Harawiras and their grandstanding bullshit! :finger:

[Bikemad]

Fuck the Harawiras and their grandstanding bullshit! :finger:

happy to swing by Kaikohe on the way back and drop something at his electoral office for ya if you like.........its right next to the gas station at the start of the twin bridges road which is a nice way to come back........PM me any special message you may have for him............

[oneblackflag]

Masterbating as usual

Fuck bro, we should totally hang out; I'll bring the blindfolds :drool:

[wharekura]

Don't let a few vocalists get in the way of a great day. Where else can u see Helen Clarke cry, or mud thrown at Dr Brash - that's worth some points right there.

[98tls]

happy to swing by Kaikohe on the way back and drop something at his electoral office for ya if you like.........its right next to the gas station at the start of the twin bridges road which is a nice way to come back........PM me any special message you may have for him............

Happy to chip in for a bomb,bigger the better.

[Maha]

Masterbating as usual



Me too

Have you ever met?

[Katman]

Do you feel that Waitangi is our ' National ' day?

Not even close.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

ANZAC day means 100 times more to me.....

[_Shrek_]

when I lived in the BOI it was :bs: then & looks to me like nothings changed much, :no: other than the Navy not being there any more, so will work & take Friday off & head to CHCH for the week end for a bit of R&R

[The Reibz]

Navy not being there any more
Trust me mate we are there, its a big event on the calender. We get to send a 100 man guard up to get abused by the locals, pull a flag up and down, fire a few guns, then go home...

[_Shrek_]

Trust me mate we are there, its a big event on the calender. We get to send a 100 man guard up to get abused by the locals, pull a flag up and down, fire a few guns, then go home...

when did ya's start going back?

[Katman]

Trust me mate we are there, its a big event on the calender. We get to send a 100 man guard up to get abused by the locals, pull a flag up and down, fire a few guns, then go home...

Good to see our tax dollars being well spent.

[The Reibz]

when did ya's start going back?
Been going every year since I have been in. Most years a ship goes up as well, I went up on HMNZS Canterbury about 5 years ago.


Good to see our tax dollars being well spent.
No one cares eah

[Katman]

No one cares eah

Me either.

[_Shrek_]

Been going every year since I have been in. Most years a ship goes up as well, I went up on HMNZS Canterbury about 5 years ago.

they did stop in the late 70's & in the 80's over all the shit that was happening, :shifty: while you're up there maybe get one of those big guns work'n & end the problem :whistle:

[oldrider]

ANZAC day means 100 times more to me.....

Yeah well there we go again the "A" in ANZAC is pulling the same sort of shit against the "NZ" of A-NZAC can't see that lasting too much longer either! :no:

Used to think we could end up totally united once but you just can't trust those cunts to keep their end of the bargain up! :stoogie:

Never want to see that happen any more! Never ever! :oi-grr::oi-grr:

There are a fucking site more good Maori than there are Aussies so give me Waitangi day any time ... warts and all! :drinknsin

[Oakie]

Waitangi? Same shit, different year! Shame but there you have it.

Raining by the sounds of it so perhaps I'll just stay inside and play 'flagpoles' here with Mrs Oakie.

[wharekura]

There are a fucking site more good Maori than there are Aussies so give me Waitangi day any time ... warts and all! :drinknsin

Someone hand that proud kiwi a beer :apint:

Anyway please can the rest of u proceed to entertain us about how u feel about a few Maori that wants to grab your attention...

[Laava]

Yeah well there we go again the "A" in ANZAC is pulling the same sort of shit against the "NZ" of A-NZAC can't see that lasting too much longer either! :no:

Used to think we could end up totally united once but you just can't trust those cunts to keep their end of the bargain up! :stoogie:

Never want to see that happen any more! Never ever! :oi-grr::oi-grr:

There are a fucking site more good Maori than there are Aussies so give me Waitangi day any time ... warts and all! :drinknsin

Lets have "Oldrider Day!"

[Laava]

gonna be headin up north on wanktangi day to check out some propertys on karikari peninsula........will be giving the BOI a wide berth......

You looking at sections or houses? Some real cheap sections at Coops, large and fully serviced being sold by a cash strapped developer.

[husaberg]

Was over in Aussie on Australia day...... gee they actually take their national day seriously drive around with flags and face paint and all.
Its an eye opener................

[Bikemad]

You looking at sections or houses? Some real cheap sections at Coops, large and fully serviced being sold by a cash strapped developer.

sections...........about all my budget can stretch to at this point...........coopers seems to be a bit to populated for me.....if i'm gonna drive 3 plus hours to get there i don't really want to be in a subdivision with a bunch of other olidaymakers if you know what i mean....but thanks for the heads up

[Bikemad]

Its an eye opener................

the average aussie would probably say the same about the crap that goes on at waitangi should they ever see it...........but for all the wrong reasons

[eelracing]

Was over in Aussie on Australia day...... gee they actually take their national day seriously drive around with flags and face paint and all.
Its an eye opener................

Fuck Waitangi Day,have a good laugh at some Aussies...

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[Scuba_Steve]

Nope, which is why I won't even take the day off.

Lazy bastard!!!

[Bikemad]

Fuck Waitangi Day,have a good laugh at some Aussies...

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yeah that looks pretty good.........love em or hate em.......they got a great sense of humour the average ocker

[oldrider]

Fuck Waitangi Day,have a good laugh at some Aussies...

Well yeah .. had a good laugh at that one .. seriously though Waitangi day here is OK .. if you just stay away from Waitangi! :o

[Robbo]

Scrap Waitangi Day and bring back NZ Day so all New Zealanders can enjoy and celebrate it going foward together.
Waitangi Day has unfortunately been destroyed by a few morons who insist in living in the past and have chips on their shoulders bigger than tree trunks.
No future there.:angry:

[MisterD]

Scrap Waitangi Day and bring back NZ Day

7th August looks good. It might be a bit colder, but it's as far away from 6th Feb as you can get and fills that horrible gap between Queen's Birthday and Labour Day.

[BoristheBiter]

Trust me mate we are there, its a big event on the calender. We get to send a 100 man guard up to get abused by the locals, pull a flag up and down, fire a few guns, then go home...

What, the whole force goes up?
Who's looking after Devonport?

[Laava]

sections...........about all my budget can stretch to at this point...........coopers seems to be a bit to populated for me.....if i'm gonna drive 3 plus hours to get there i don't really want to be in a subdivision with a bunch of other olidaymakers if you know what i mean....but thanks for the heads up

Yep fair enough. But like karikari, tokerau beach, the holidymakers are only there for 2 weeks. Was thinking about these sections in particular. Pretty good value for a huge fully serviced section up a long cul de sac. I can vouch for the 5 min walk too.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential/sections-for-sale/auction-610422851.htm

[RDJ]

As long as Waitangi Day is only a showcase for a bunch of shrill harridans and their cretinous sidekicks dedicated to their Perpetual Grievance Industry, the taxpayers who are forced to support this pigmented farce will stay at work or stay at home. It's not a national New Zealand day for citizens.

[Banditbandit]

ANZAC day means 100 times more to me.....

I'm sorry - but commemorating the slaughter of colonial troops as cannon fodder in yet another British fuck up hardly seems great ... some of us have just as different an opinion on that day as you do of this day ..

(Yes, I get what happened - and my Grandfather was wounded on the beaches at Gallipoli on April 25 ... I remember with respect ... I get all that ... It was still the slaughter of colonial troops in a great British fuck up)

[Banditbandit]

Lets have "Oldrider Day!"

Fuck ... you can call me old when you can beat me long distance on the road.

[Banditbandit]

. It's not a national New Zealand day for citizens.

Maybe that's because some of the citizens aren't too pleased with what goes down in this country ???

[frogfeaturesFZR]

I'm sorry - but commemorating the slaughter of colonial troops as cannon fodder in yet another British fuck up hardly seems great ... some of us have just as different an opinion on that day as you do of this day ..

(Yes, I get what happened - and my Grandfather was wounded on the beaches at Gallipoli on April 25 ... I remember with respect ... I get all that ... It was still the slaughter of colonial troops in a great British fuck up)

I can appreciate where you're coming from, I lost my grandfather on my mothers side.
But to me, I look upon it as NZ's awakening as an independant nation. The Screwup at Gallipoli make us look at ourselves and
realise we don't necessarily blindly follow where England goes.
And that was a good thing

[george formby]

Wee's headin oop north tomorrow, too. Doubtless Bay & beyond.

I used to live on Tokerau Beach, spent most of my spare time washing salt off the windows. Don't get too close to the sea, I realised the best view is the one with you in it.

Gonna give the bikes their annual wash today so yeah, it will rain tomorrow.

Waitangi day in the Bay is mayhem, teeming, nay, thronged, with visitors. I appreciate the fact that in this country you can stand up & demonstrate to the whole Nation that your a fuckwit without being imprisoned.

[Hoon]

Quite disgusted at the retarded harawera-ist who seems to have an issue with Sir Jerry Mateparae. A better GG would be hard to find. Yep him being Ex-SAS I would've loved to see him take her down and snap her neck :)

[Hoon]

I'm sorry - but commemorating the slaughter of colonial troops as cannon fodder in yet another British fuck up hardly seems great ... some of us have just as different an opinion on that day as you do of this day ..
You are missing the point. Sure it was a fuck up but it is the remembrance of the sacrifice made by some kiwi kid that in his country's time of need had the balls to step up, leave his farm and defend his loved ones. The fact that his leaders may have been a bunch of dumbarses or (-insert your political argument of choice-) by no means detracts from the courage displayed by that individual kiwi on that day when he was asked to.

Sure the leaders need to be made accountable but ANZAC day which is all about the sacrifice made by that soldier is not the appropriate place to be doing it. Save your anti-colonial/war opinions for one of the other 364 days of the year when it doesn't disrespect those just doing what they were told.

[Laava]

As long as Waitangi Day is only a showcase for a bunch of shrill harridans and their cretinous sidekicks dedicated to their Perpetual Grievance Industry, the taxpayers who are forced to support this pigmented farce will stay at work or stay at home. It's not a national New Zealand day for citizens.

I think there is more to it than that. I was talking to a couple the other day who go every year and love the aptmosphere and stalls etc. it is not all about Te Tii marae and the Harawira/Popatas thank fuck! But that is what makes the news.

[Banditbandit]

You are missing the point. Sure it was a fuck up but it is the remembrance of the sacrifice made by some kiwi kid that in his country's time of need had the balls to step up, leave his farm and defend his loved ones. The fact that his leaders may have been a bunch of dumbarses or (-insert your political argument of choice-) by no means detracts from the courage displayed by that individual kiwi on that day when he was asked to.

Sure the leaders need to be made accountable but ANZAC day which is all about the sacrifice made by that soldier is not the appropriate place to be doing it. Save your anti-colonial/war opinions for one of the other 364 days of the year when it doesn't disrespect those just doing what they were told.

See - as I said I do get all that .. and this is NOT April 25 - so it is one of the days that I can express my opinion ...

On April 25 at dawn I put poppies on my grandfather's grave .. he was wounded in Gallipoli, wounded twice more in WWI .. and served in WWII as well ... he was a volunteer, not a conscript ...

[Banditbandit]

I can appreciate where you're coming from, I lost my grandfather on my mothers side.
But to me, I look upon it as NZ's awakening as an independant nation. The Screwup at Gallipoli make us look at ourselves and
realise we don't necessarily blindly follow where England goes.
And that was a good thing

Yes - all of that too ... Maybe we need to look at what happens inside this independent nation of ours ..

But fuck it ... I'm going riding ... I have Friday off on leave so I'm on the road Thursday Friday and Saturday ... and I'm heading South and East, not North ..

[RDJ]

Maybe that's because some of the citizens aren't too pleased with what goes down in this country ???

That's right, we are not. Democracy is not the tyranny of the (Harawira-type) minority with their apartheid electorates, gravy trains, preferential treatment and neverending moans about history. History is what happened then. This is now.

[Banditbandit]

Naaa ... fuck it ... I'm not going to buy into the argument - I'm going riding ... you keyboard warriors can slug it out or shadow box all you like ... this time I'm out of here ...

Ngā mihi aroha ki a koutou ...

[BoristheBiter]

Naaa ... fuck it ... I'm not going to buy into the argument - I'm going riding ... you keyboard warriors can slug it out or shadow box all you like ... this time I'm out of here ...

Ngā mihi aroha ki a koutou ...

ko koutou atawhai rawa (i think that's right)

[Laava]

Ka pai!
Speaking of which, it's lunchtime!

[RDJ]

Naaa ... fuck it ... I'm not going to buy into the argument - I'm going riding ... you keyboard warriors can slug it out or shadow box all you like ... this time I'm out of here ...

Ngā mihi aroha ki a koutou ...

You might want to look up projection, so you can avoid suffering from it in future. The issue at the Waitangi marae is primarily Manaakitanga...

[Banditbandit]

Only if it is defined that way ... and on what basis do you make that judgement? I'm reluctant to accept a Pākehā judgement of a Māori concept.

I am also reluctant to accept that a powhiri is a welcome - it is not - and a powhiri can be very confrontational - the marae atea, the domain of the atua of conflict, is exactly the place to express things as people sometimes do ...

Once in the whare tipuna, the domain of the atua of peace, that is NOT the appropriate place to express conflict .. that is the place to attempt resolution ...

Now don't ask me about the specifics on Te Tii marae .. not my iwi, let alone hapu or marae ... their rules are their rules ...

[RDJ]

I'm reluctant to accept a Pākehā judgement of a Māori concept.

First, you're assuming I'm Pakeha. I'm as Pakeha - or as Maori - as Ken Mair.

Second, your stated reluctance 'as a Maori' to accept a 'Pakeha judgment' very neatly defines the apartheid that exists in New Zealand.

[TheDemonLord]

I read this thread....

I feel so White and English...

[RDJ]

I read this thread.... I feel so White and English...

That's what the card-carrying members of the Perpetual Grievance Industry want you to feel...

Most New Zealanders however prefer to be defined by what we do in this life, rather than whine for taxpayer handouts on the basis of what one bunch of ancestors did or did not give or receive or harangue or sign or fight or lose to another bunch of ancestors.

[TheDemonLord]

That's what the card-carrying members of the Perpetual Grievance Industry want you to feel...

Most New Zealanders however prefer to be defined by what we do in this life, rather than whine for taxpayer handouts on the basis of what one bunch of ancestors did or did not give or receive or harangue or sign or fight or lose to another bunch of ancestors.

Actually it was a reference to the fact that as an Immigrant, my understanding of Maori Langauge (and by a large extension, Maori Culture) is virtually nil.

[bogan]

Actually it was a reference to the fact that as an Immigrant, my understanding of Maori Langauge (and by a large extension, Maori Culture) is virtually nil.

Meh, you didn't miss much because its often very exclusionist, so don't let it make you feel any less of an NZ'r.

[Banditbandit]

First, you're assuming I'm Pakeha.

No - I was not making that assumption - that is why I started with "on what basis do you make that judgement?"


I'm as Pakeha - or as Maori - as Ken Mair.

And that' the answer I needed to hear ... (Ken's a relation of mine) .. and tells me what I need to know ...

On that basis - Yes, there is a Manaakitanga issue ... I happen to agree with you. It's not the only issue.


Second, your stated reluctance 'as a Maori' to accept a 'Pakeha judgment' very neatly defines the apartheid that exists in New Zealand.

No - that's not how I see it - I watch people like Don Brash tell Māori what their culture is and how it should operate - and we all get pissed at that ..

As to the apartheid issue - no, I do not see it that way. We are forced to accept approaches all based in our European-derived cultures. The majority expect us to - Education runs on dominant culture lines, health runs on dominant culture lines social welfare runs on dominant culture lines ... etc

We are setting up such services run on Maori lines - and we get accussed of apartheid ??? As far as I know no service has refused to accept non-Māori people into their services ... how can that be apartheid?

The dominant culture delivery mechanism alienate our people ... with major social costs .. Maori services work better for our people and alleviate the social costs ... How can that be apartheid ?

If we take all Maori out of the dominant culture's health system, education system etc . then those services will be cheaper to run .. the money can then be spent on Maori-based services .. this is not a gravy train - we are spending the money in a different place, that's all .. it's not going to cost taxpayers any more ...

See - I work in a wananga - and the Government pays this institute the same amount per student as other tertiary organisations - if the students were not here the would be in other organisations - which would be receiving the money ... there's no extra costs to having a wananga as well as unis and itps ... and guess what - we have Pākehā students and staff members ... this is not apartheid or a gravy train.

Anyway ... I'm gone ... on the road tomorrow - By the time I get back Waitangi will have all blown over for another 12 months .. so don't bother to reply - I'm not here to read whatever you write.

[Banditbandit]

Shit - you bastards keep posting ...


I read this thread....

I feel so White and English...

You make that sound like a bad thing - that saddens me - it is not a bad thing at all ... know who you are and be proud of it .. don't apologise ...


That's what the card-carrying members of the Perpetual Grievance Industry want you to feel...

Bullshit !!!


Most New Zealanders however prefer to be defined by what we do in this life, rather than whine for taxpayer handouts on the basis of what one bunch of ancestors did or did not give or receive or harangue or sign or fight or lose to another bunch of ancestors.

If only .. we would love that .. stop judging us on what you all believe we are .. or want us to be ... or used to be .. judge us on what we do .. (like contribute $36billion each year to the NZ economy)


Meh, you didn't miss much because its often very exclusionist, so don't let it make you feel any less of an NZ'r.

I think you are wrong. I have found Maori culture to be more inclusive than Pakeha culture ... STUFF IT - THAT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG TO EXPLAIN .. AND I WANT OUT ON THE ROAD ..

GONE !!!

[bogan]

I think you are wrong. I have found Maori culture to be more inclusive than Pakeha culture ... STUFF IT - THAT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG TO EXPLAIN .. AND I WANT OUT ON THE ROAD ..

Maybe it's cos you are included in the former by birthright, while the majority of us aren't.


I'm reluctant to accept a Pākehā judgement of a Māori concept.

Hmm, not sounding very inclusive there mate.

[BoristheBiter]

I read this thread....

I feel so White and English...

I am white and English and couldn't give a fuck what others think.
Be proud of your heritage, what ever that my be.

[BoristheBiter]

Actually it was a reference to the fact that as an Immigrant, my understanding of Maori Langauge (and by a large extension, Maori Culture) is virtually nil.

And there are a shit load of Maori can't or don't either.

[Yamahardman]

I don't/ can't watch te news tena koe, or t.v.
So I don't have rage so hard, upon seeing the bullshit, that goes on during Waitangi day.
Thankyou for the digital switchover, Raptor Jesus.

[Laava]

I don't/ can't watch te news tena koe, or t.v.
So I don't have rage so hard, upon seeing the bullshit, that goes on during Waitangi day.
Thankyou for the digital switchover, Raptor Jesus.

You worship a lizard?

[Yamahardman]

You worship a lizard?

who doesn't?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbo8SNTNsQQ

[wharekura]

Fun reading - bombs, killing ppl, all over a few Maori - wow, they must really get to you fellas :laugh:

please continue...

[JimO]

they could make a doco like The GC, it could be called Darkies Behaving badly

[oldrider]

By the time I get back Waitangi will have all blown over for another 12 months .. so don't bother to reply - I'm not here to read whatever you write.

Sorry have to dissagree with you BB ... Waitangi is every day ... now and for ever! (ake ake ake) It must not be allowed to blow over like some cheap carnival!

Waitangi "day" is a specific day of celebration of our national progress in making the treaty our living document.

The rest of the year is for the shit to fly and get sorted so the protesters should just shut the fuck up for 24 hours and show some respect!

Waitangi day is a day to recharge our batteries ... nobody expects it to be easy but just one day in 365 to say "YES" FFS! :grouphug:

[SMOKEU]

they could make a doco like The GC, it could be called Darkies Behaving badly

I can just imagine it now, but with some old British dude doing a David Attenborough impersonation hiding in some bushes filming some niggers gang banging.

[JATZ]

when I lived in the BOI it was :bs: then & looks to me like nothings changed much, :no: other than the Navy not being there any more, so will work & take Friday off & head to CHCH for the week end for a bit of R&R

Give us a yell if you want to catch up. I'll be in Chch for the w/end too :yes:
I lost your number :weep:

[98tls]

Sorry have to dissagree with you BB ... Waitangi is every day ... now and for ever! (ake ake ake) It must not be allowed to blow over like some cheap carnival!

Waitangi "day" is a specific day of celebration of our national progress in making the treaty our living document.

The rest of the year is for the shit to fly and get sorted so the protesters should just shut the fuck up for 24 hours and show some respect!

Waitangi day is a day to recharge our batteries ... nobody expects it to be easy but just one day in 365 to say "YES" FFS! :grouphug:

Nice thought John but wont happen.I say long may there shit continue as every year it seems more New Zealanders no matter what colour there skin or ethnic background have a chuckle over there bullshit and simply get on with the day as it was intended.Fuck em its just a circus for the media.

[_Shrek_]

Give us a yell if you want to catch up. I'll be in Chch for the w/end too :yes:
I lost your number :weep:

:bs: just to lazy to ring more like :bleh:

[oldrider]

Nice thought John but wont happen.I say long may there shit continue as every year it seems more New Zealanders no matter what colour there skin or ethnic background have a chuckle over there bullshit and simply get on with the day as it was intended.Fuck em its just a circus for the media.

True!

Was just watching Paul Henry (what a plonker) on TV3 and the media presentation from Waitangi was bloody pathetic FFS! :o

[SPman]

It could be said that Waitangi Day is a Eurocentric construct to commemorate the english outsmarting the french to get colonial control over a country, despite the local inhabitants, which they would much rather have not had to deal with and were probably pissed they couldn't treat them as vermin and wipe them all out - as the yanks tried with the native americans, the indonesians are trying with the Papuans, and the aussies are still trying with the abos.........but if it's all wiped under the carpet and if we all hold hands it'll go away and we can continue with our eurocentric lives as usual without a thought in the world...........other than stop rocking our shitty comfy little boat!

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Bandit Bandit again

[The Reibz]

I'm sorry - but commemorating the slaughter of colonial troops as cannon fodder in yet another British fuck up hardly seems great ... some of us have just as different an opinion on that day as you do of this day ..

(Yes, I get what happened - and my Grandfather was wounded on the beaches at Gallipoli on April 25 ... I remember with respect ... I get all that ... It was still the slaughter of colonial troops in a great British fuck up)

Show some respect. Stand behind us, or stand in front of us.
So you remember with respect but your still gutless enough to write the first paragraph?

[Maha]

For most who live in NZ, Waitangi Day has always (and lets face the truth here) a day off school/work when it falls on a weekday.
Yes, some shit or other happened in 1840 and that's fine, all the reside in NZ should know the brief history of Feb 6 1840. It has only been in the last 30 years or so, that Waitangi day has taken a on a more sinister tone primarily due to the media reporting only of the crap that happens at Waitangi on the 6th. It is only a handful of unemployed low lifers that attempt to upset what should be a calm and dignified few days in the Bay of Islands.

On the grand scale of things, those 'people' mean nothing to the thousands that attend, but the media love that shit and can't get enough of it. They report on it, and Waitangi Day is viewed (unfortunately) as a few days of upheaval and protests, when the fact is, it is quite the opposite.

[TheDemonLord]

I'm not sure how my comment was taken as that I am not proud of being english, I am extremely proud.

My comment was more towards any discussion where the key points revolve around the subtleties of Maori language and Culture are discussions which I am alienated from due to my lack of knowledge in these fields.

A lack of knowledge that has no bearing or impact on the pride I take in my heritage.

[skippa1]

I'm not sure how my comment was taken as that I am not proud of being english, I am extremely proud.

My comment was more towards any discussion where the key points revolve around the subtleties of Maori language and Culture are discussions which I am alienated from due to my lack of knowledge in these fields.

A lack of knowledge that has no bearing or impact on the pride I take in my heritage.

No...please, don't be apologetic. White is a colour too

[Maha]

No...please, don't be apologetic. White is a colour too

Technically it's a shade :niceone:

[TheDemonLord]

Technically it's a shade :niceone:

Technically it is the complete reflection of all the visible wave lengths of light

yeaaaaaaaaah Science

[skippa1]

Technically it's a shade :niceone:

I love learning new shit

[RDJ]

I love learning new shit

I'm pretty sure it's a (whiter) shade of pale, so sayeth the Moody Blues...

[oldrider]

Well ... here we are ... it's Waitangi day and the only shit going down is that the holiday makers have bought out all of the news papers! :facepalm:

I wonder how that will look on HomoTV 1 and 3 tonight? ... Drama to be sure! :corn:

[RDJ]

Well not all of us, I came off first call 50 minutes ago and now I am on as backup. I have no worries about working on this day, although it does bite to see how the Perpetual Grievance Industry makes other people pay for their cultural expenses.

Ultimately however there's no way that robbing the 30-40% that are actually working, can eternally fund multi-culti wishlists as well as infrastructure, health care, education and the other things society needs (as opposed to parts of society whine about wanting).

Sooner rather than later Maggie Thatcher's famous "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money' will come true here. Good luck then eating your marae protocols and keeping warm with your powhiris and separate developments.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

I'm pretty sure it's a (whiter) shade of pale, so sayeth the Moody Blues...

Procul Harum.:Oi:

[RDJ]

Procul Harum.:Oi:

My sincere apologies Frogman you are of course right! No real defense other than I was listening to "Nights In White Satin" at the time...

[awa355]

$500 million and we'll go away? :tugger:

Yea, right!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11197495

[RDJ]

$500 million and we'll go away? :tugger:

Yea, right!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11197495

Kipling said it best

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
   For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
   You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
   No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
   And the nation that plays it is lost!"

[oldrider]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11197495 Well that will be the first instalment out of the way at least! :rolleyes:

Like the last guy in the video clip said ... keep the media out of the place and it all goes well it has been a great day out! :niceone:

[_Shrek_]

[Like the last guy in the video clip said ... keep the media out of the place and it all goes well it has been a great day out! :niceone:

well it does stop all the :girlfight: & a bit more of :hug: & :drinknsin

[george formby]

It's Un Zuds biggest Kai festival with a hint of belligerence between snacks. Last years Paua fritters were gawjus.

Mrs had me odd jobbing today so missed out on the grub. Turned some drawers into shelves, though. That's kiwi right there.

[JimO]

$500 million and we'll go away? :tugger:

Yea, right!!

it would be worth it if they did go away back to where they came from

[oldrider]

it would be worth it if they did go away back to where they came from

Last count the genetic historians were claimimg that they all came from Taiwan ... so I guess that makes them all Asian drivers! :eek:

[Swoop]

Last count the genetic historians were claimimg that they all came from Taiwan ...
A colleague always said that the carvings were almost identical. Taiwanese and Maori share a link there.

[jasonu]

I'm sorry - but commemorating the slaughter of colonial troops as cannon fodder in yet another British fuck up hardly seems great ... some of us have just as different an opinion on that day as you do of this day ..

(Yes, I get what happened - and my Grandfather was wounded on the beaches at Gallipoli on April 25 ... I remember with respect ... I get all that ... It was still the slaughter of colonial troops in a great British fuck up)

It is not a day of commemoration, rather a day of rememberence and respect to those involved.

[Kickaha]

It was still the slaughter of colonial troops in a great British fuck up)

It wasn't just the colonial troops, everyone seem to forget about the fact that the British and French were also killed in their thousands

[ellipsis]

...lots of Turks too...

[98tls]

$500 million and we'll go away? :tugger:

Yea, right!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11197495

Fuck there revolting. beggars on steroids.

[jasonu]

...lots of Turks too...

Good
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[oldrider]

A turky shoot where the turks shot back .... but wait, what has this got to do with Waitangi day? :confused:

Oh yeah, ANZAC day ... the alternative celebration day to Waitangi! :kick: Two very different celebrations really! :blip:

[Banditbandit]

Show some respect. Stand behind us, or stand in front of us.
So you remember with respect but your still gutless enough to write the first paragraph?

Hmm .. fascinating ...

As I said, I have respect for those who fought in the wars .. I would point out that those of my relations who fought in WWI and WWII were Māori - None, and I Mean NONE, of my Pākehā ancestors (yes, I have a couple) and relations fought or even joined the army ...

I would die and kill for New Zealand - I would not die and kill for the fuckers from other countries ...

[BoristheBiter]

Hmm .. fascinating ...

As I said, I have respect for those who fought in the wars .. I would point out that those of my relations who fought in WWI and WWII were Māori - None, and I Mean NONE, of my Pākehā ancestors (yes, I have a couple) and relations fought or even joined the army ...

I would die and kill for New Zealand - I would not die and kill for the fuckers from other countries ...

Funny that, none of my pakeha ancestors fought in the wars either, guess it was because they are British.

[oldrider]

Hmm .. fascinating ... I would die and kill for New Zealand - I would not die and kill for the fuckers from other countries ...

These used to be my own sentiments but by the time such agressors get to our shores it will most likely be too late!

Meanwhile those poor American bastards are taking all the flack so that we don't have to!

Sort of NIMBY factor ... not in my back yard syndrome!

Meanwhile it creates a safe opportunity for us to slag the shit out of the Yanks on KB and blame them for all the worlds problems!

The poor bloody Yank servicemen get shot and maimed all over the world and mainly in defense of freedom for Israel FFS.

The freedom of the rest of the world is only a by product of most of the action especially in the midle East where it's really all about Israel.

Before you argue about that ... read the report in this clip: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-83-page-report-AIPAC-controls-USA.pdf

It's long but it is very interesting reading and it's history that was made right under your own nose! :yes: Read it and judge for your self! :shifty:

[Banditbandit]

These used to be my own sentiments but by the time such agressors get to our shores it will most likely be too late!

Yes - I agree .. fighting for Aotearoa/New Zealand may well take place overseas.



Meanwhile those poor American bastards are taking all the flack so that we don't have to!

Sort of NIMBY factor ... not in my back yard syndrome!

Meanwhile it creates a safe opportunity for us to slag the shit out of the Yanks on KB and blame them for all the worlds problems!

The poor bloody Yank servicemen get shot and maimed all over the world and mainly in defense of freedom for Israel FFS.

The freedom of the rest of the world is only a by product of most of the action especially in the midle East where it's really all about Israel.

Before you argue about that ... read the report in this clip: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-83-page-report-AIPAC-controls-USA.pdf

It's long but it is very interesting reading and it's history that was made right under your own nose! :yes: Read it and judge for your self! :shifty:

We will never agree on this one ... I do not see any threat to New Zealand .. so I will not fight in American wars ...

I think the wars in the Middle East are part of the aggression of the USA. It's all about oil .. and not about freedom .. if it was about freedom they would step in a stop Bashar al Assad killing his own people - they would have stepped in the Libya ... and they would haver stepped in ages ago in the Phillipines when Marcos was in power ...

The invasion of Iraq was bullshit - an the invasion of Afghanistan not much better .. It's all about the interests of the USA - especially oil and money ...

(And it's not about Israel either ... that's bullshit too ... sure Israel has issues (they are a terrorist regime) ... but US interests involve keeping the Middle Eastern countries under the hammer .. Israel is a convenient point to do that from ..

[rustyrobot]

I would die and kill for New Zealand - I would not die and kill for the fuckers from other countries ...

Just out of interest - which New Zealand would you die and kill for? Or more specifically, which values are you prepared to defend unto the death?

[Bald Eagle]

Just out of interest - which New Zealand would you die and kill for? Or more specifically, which values are you prepared to defend unto the death?

I suspect te treaty values ;-)

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[oldrider]

We will never agree on this one ... I do not see any threat to New Zealand .. so I will not fight in American wars ...

I think the wars in the Middle East are part of the aggression of the USA. It's all about oil .. and not about freedom .. if it was about freedom they would step in a stop Bashar al Assad killing his own people - they would have stepped in the Libya ... and they would haver stepped in ages ago in the Phillipines when Marcos was in power ...

The invasion of Iraq was bullshit - an the invasion of Afghanistan not much better .. It's all about the interests of the USA - especially oil and money ...

(And it's not about Israel either ... that's bullshit too ... sure Israel has issues (they are a terrorist regime) ... but US interests involve keeping the Middle Eastern countries under the hammer .. Israel is a convenient point to do that from ..

Did you read the Harvard research paper on the Israel lobby?

USA foreign policy is all about Israel first, even at the expense of Americans!

USA war on terror is all about Israeli interests!

USA actually have huge oil reserves of their own unused should they need it but they prefer to use up everyone elses first!

Freedom will only become an issue if the former are lost!

If it was in the (unlikely) interest of USA/Israeli foreign policy to have a war in our back yard we would have it like it or not! :shifty:

[Banditbandit]

Just out of interest - which New Zealand would you die and kill for? Or more specifically, which values are you prepared to defend unto the death?

I am not sure I understand what you are asking or even that it is relevant ... If you are asking which Imaginary I would kill and die for then my answer is not an Imaginary but the land and the people ...

If you are asking if there are groups who would invade that I might welcome, then the answer is NO, there are not.

ANYONE who tries to invade Aotearoa/New Zealand will be fought off. I don't really care about which values or what values ... This is our country - the argument over values is our internal argument - it is not an argument for overseas people to tell us what we do - anyone who tries to butt in with arms will be fought off ...

This is a similar stance to "I disagree with you completely, but will defend your right to say what you say ..."

If you want a better answer you will need to be more specific ..



I suspect te treaty values ;-)



No, I'm terribly sorry - I do not subscribe to the idea that the Treaty expresses values and that the values are there to be upheld. That's a very contemporary idea, and I don't agree.

[Banditbandit]

Did you read the Harvard research paper on the Israel lobby?

USA foreign policy is all about Israel first, even at the expense of Americans!

USA war on terror is all about Israeli interests!

USA actually have huge oil reserves of their own unused should they need it but they prefer to use up everyone elses first!

Freedom will only become an issue if the former are lost!

If it was in the (unlikely) interest of USA/Israeli foreign policy to have a war in our back yard we would have it like it or not! :shifty:

No, I haven't read it yet. Our network won't let me see it - so I need to get it some other way.

[bogan]

ANYONE who tries to invade Aotearoa/New Zealand will be fought off.

:rofl: Yeh, you and whose army?

NZ needs allies to ensure its own protection, that is why we fight in their wars, so they would fight in ours.

[BoristheBiter]

I am not sure I understand what you are asking or even that it is relevant ... If you are asking which Imaginary I would kill and die for then my answer is not an Imaginary but the land and the people ...

If you are asking if there are groups who would invade that I might welcome, then the answer is NO, there are not.

ANYONE who tries to invade Aotearoa/New Zealand will be fought off. I don't really care about which values or what values ... This is our country - the argument over values is our internal argument - it is not an argument for overseas people to tell us what we do - anyone who tries to butt in with arms will be fought off ...

This is a similar stance to "I disagree with you completely, but will defend your right to say what you say ..."

If you want a better answer you will need to be more specific ..




No, I'm terribly sorry - I do not subscribe to the idea that the Treaty expresses values and that the values are there to be upheld. That's a very contemporary idea, and I don't agree.

Well the Maori migration pushed out the original peoples here (whom ever you think it was)
the British did it to the Maori,
and now asia is doing it to us.

It's called invasion by stealth.

[Banditbandit]

:rofl: Yeh, you and whose army?

NZ needs allies to ensure its own protection, that is why we fight in their wars, so they would fight in ours.

STOP !!!!

You are suggesting that we kill and maim people in other people's unjust wars on the off chance that sometime in the future the other people will fight for us ???

That is so wrong ..

[oldrider]

ANYONE who tries to invade Aotearoa/New Zealand will be fought off. I don't really care about which values or what values ... This is our country - the argument over values is our internal argument - it is not an argument for overseas people to tell us what we do - anyone who tries to butt in with arms will be fought off ...

The actual invaders of the future are here already ... "by invitation" ... thank's to the United Nations and Helen Clark! ... they didn't need old fashioned arms! :oi-grr:

Arms will easily be made available when and if they need them! :ar15: . :brick:

[Banditbandit]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7a/7a7531c7ac730ed76c951a7d151f39dc2959882c0df9d86d33 10c7571adca517.jpg

[bogan]

STOP !!!!

You are suggesting that we kill and maim people in other people's unjust wars on the off chance that sometime in the future the other people will fight for us ???

That is so wrong ..

Who said their wars were unjust? That is why you were asked about values before, pick our allies based on their values, and fight not only for mutual protection, but for a just cause.

[TheDemonLord]

STOP !!!!

You are suggesting that we kill and maim people in other people's unjust wars on the off chance that sometime in the future the other people will fight for us ???

That is so wrong ..

Whilst it might be so wrong - imagine a single Carrier battle group parked in international waters.

Using anti ship missles on fast attack jets, our Navy is wiped out.

Next comes a marine assault with full air superiority to any point of our very VERY expansive coastline.

Backing up the Marine assault is Heavy Armour (Main Battle Tanks) with full air support.

In short - if a foreign power with a full blue water Navy decided to pick a fight with NZ, we would be fucked

[rustyrobot]

I am not sure I understand what you are asking or even that it is relevant ... If you are asking which Imaginary I would kill and die for then my answer is not an Imaginary but the land and the people ...

If you are asking if there are groups who would invade that I might welcome, then the answer is NO, there are not.


Yep, that helps to clarify it. Although, I do wonder about the division of people into outsiders/insiders from an indigenous person in a colonised land. Kei a koe nga kupu mutunga.

I guess I also wonder which land you would die for. Crafar farms?




ANYONE who tries to invade Aotearoa/New Zealand will be fought off. I don't really care about which values or what values ... This is our country - the argument over values is our internal argument - it is not an argument for overseas people to tell us what we do - anyone who tries to butt in with arms will be fought off ...

This is a similar stance to "I disagree with you completely, but will defend your right to say what you say ..."

If you want a better answer you will need to be more specific ..


The question of values comes from me wanting to understand what it is that you are defending. I ask this because from what I read & hear, there is almost no one in this country who agrees with things as they are now. Perhaps we just liked to complain, or perhaps there is something about representative democracy which actually equates to no one at all being entirely happy with decisions made. Are you defending the values of representative democracy, or te tiriti, or the right not/to smack our kids?

Also, when you say 'our country', do you mean... the people who live here? the people who were born here? the people with NZ citizenship? NZ residency? property holdings? those who are eligible to vote?

[rustyrobot]

In short - if a foreign power with a full blue water Navy decided to pick a fight with NZ, we would be fucked

Yeah, but it would be easier to just buy out our land from underneath us. Would just take a little longer to get the desired results is all - less likely to created reprisals from our 'allies' though.

[ellipsis]

- if a foreign power with a full blue water Navy decided to pick a fight with NZ, we would be fucked


...i'm sure they wouldn't need a full blue water navy...a tug a barge and two top dressers converted to drop rocks would get away with it...

[TheDemonLord]

...i'm sure they wouldn't need a full blue water navy...a tug a barge and two top dressers converted to drop rocks would get away with it...

Well, I was being genourous to the NZ Navy....

[Banditbandit]

Who said their wars were unjust? That is why you were asked about values before, pick our allies based on their values, and fight not only for mutual protection, but for a just cause.

I'm sorry - but I will only accept that invading another country is a just cause in a very limited set of circumstances - and the current invasions going on are not in just causes ... neither the invasion of Iraq nor Afghanistan are just causes ...


So - OK, I might accept the rest ... do you think that we should be supporting the values currently exhibited by the US of A ???

[Banditbandit]

Whilst it might be so wrong - imagine a single Carrier battle group parked in international waters.

Using anti ship missles on fast attack jets, our Navy is wiped out.

Next comes a marine assault with full air superiority to any point of our very VERY expansive coastline.

Backing up the Marine assault is Heavy Armour (Main Battle Tanks) with full air support.

In short - if a foreign power with a full blue water Navy decided to pick a fight with NZ, we would be fucked

Yes ... I agree ... but are you suggesting we say "fuck it" and walk away ??? I'd rather die on the beaches a free man ..

[TheDemonLord]

Yes ... I agree ... but are you suggesting we say "fuck it" and walk away ??? I'd rather die on the beaches a free man ..

I am suggesting that I am a realist - fighting in other peoples questionable wars to ensure my continued freedom seems like okay deal, not the best deal, but not the worst either.

[bogan]

I'm sorry - but I will only accept that invading another country is a just cause in a very limited set of circumstances - and the current invasions going on are not in just causes ... neither the invasion of Iraq nor Afghanistan are just causes ...


So - OK, I might accept the rest ... do you think that we should be supporting the values currently exhibited by the US of A ???

Perhaps not in retrospect, but at the time they seemed to be.

The point is, the defense of New Zealand is far more complicated than just popping up from the shrubbery on the shore with a pointy stick and your tongue poking out, and expecting guys with cruise missiles to get all scared and go away.

[ellipsis]

The point is, the defense of New Zealand is far more complicated than just popping up from the shrubbery on the shore with a pointy stick and your tongue poking out, and expecting guys with cruise missiles to get all scared and go away.

...even if we frightened them a bit, for a few seconds?...

[jasonu]

Whilst it might be so wrong - imagine a single Carrier battle group parked in international waters.

Using anti ship missles on fast attack jets, our Navy is wiped out.

Next comes a marine assault with full air superiority to any point of our very VERY expansive coastline.

Backing up the Marine assault is Heavy Armour (Main Battle Tanks) with full air support.

In short - if a foreign power with a full blue water Navy decided to pick a fight with NZ, we would be fucked

You wouldn't need an entire Carrier Group, just one carrier would be more than enough to so the job.

[Bald Eagle]

Remembering of course Americas minimum requirement for any war is "Not in the U S of A" anywhere else is OK though.

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[TheDemonLord]

Remembering of course Americas minimum requirement for any war is "Not in the U S of A" anywhere else is OK though.

that could be applie to any other country - generally wars involve a country and Another country...

Except Civil Wars

[ellipsis]

Except Civil Wars


...lets opt for one of them...doesn't sound so disruptive...it would save running down to the beach all the time to see if anyone was coming...

[Banditbandit]

Yep, that helps to clarify it. Although, I do wonder about the division of people into outsiders/insiders from an indigenous person in a colonised land. Kei a koe nga kupu mutunga.

In the face of invaders I make no distinctions ... and it's a small country - and we share whakapapa .. in the widest sense of that - I have Pākehā ancestors as well as Māori ancestors ... we are only 2 degrees of separation - and there's a good chance we are more closely related than most people are aware of ...


I guess I also wonder which land you would die for. Crafar farms?

The sale of the Crafar Farms to the Chinese pissed me off no end .. the Chinese cannot pick up and take the land - that will remain .. they can and do take the profits ... it was a dumb move by a person who only thinks in trader terms ... Sale is not armed invasion - tho' I do get that some of you will disagree and think I am nit-picking ...



The question of values comes from me wanting to understand what it is that you are defending. I ask this because from what I read & hear, there is almost no one in this country who agrees with things as they are now. Perhaps we just liked to complain, or perhaps there is something about representative democracy which actually equates to no one at all being entirely happy with decisions made. Are you defending the values of representative democracy, or te tiriti, or the right not/to smack our kids?

I suppose I am defending our rights to have those arguments ... does that make sense? I value the free exchange of ideas ... I value this country, this land and the people who live in it ... (even if some of the people piss me off ...) I value the diversity ...


Also, when you say 'our country', do you mean... the people who live here? the people who were born here? the people with NZ citizenship? NZ residency? property holdings? those who are eligible to vote?

Hmm people who live here .. people born here, naturalized citizens .. residency is a step on the path to citizenship - so them too ... Property holders? That's a capitalist construct - I'd rather think of citizens in the widest use of the term ... not just those who have "official" citizenship

I suppose I'd say the people who participate in our society ... (with the proviso that taking profits is not participation - so the owners of the Crafar Farms are out ... I would not fight and die for them ...)

[Banditbandit]

Perhaps not in retrospect, but at the time they seemed to be.

The point is, the defense of New Zealand is far more complicated than just popping up from the shrubbery on the shore with a pointy stick and your tongue poking out, and expecting guys with cruise missiles to get all scared and go away.

Fuck mate - I have four guns and I'm a better than average shot .. won't be no pointy sticks ... And I also have a lot of other nasty tricks up my sleeve .. including remembered knowledge of how to build fertiliser bombs ... how to improvise timing devices ... and other things that our good mate the Thought Police won't like me saying ..

But yeah - I get your point ... However, Vietnam won against the might of the USA .. and Afghanistan is doing pretty well too ... it's not all technology ..

[BoristheBiter]

But yeah - I get your point ... However, Vietnam won against the might of the USA .. and Afghanistan is doing pretty well too ... it's not all technology ..

Because there was nothing to win. It was just to costly, both in money and popularity, to continue.

You can't kill an ideal. they should have looked at the Romans killing the Christians.:facepalm:

[jasonu]

And I also have a lot of other nasty tricks up my sleeve .. including remembered knowledge of how to build fertiliser bombs ... how to improvise timing devices ... and other things that our good mate the Thought Police won't like me saying ..

For your sake I hope you are more careful than these muppets...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556064/Gang-21-Iraqi-militants-accidentally-blow-making-promotional-video-suicide-bomber-launch-attack.html

[oldrider]

For your sake I hope you are more careful than these muppets...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556064/Gang-21-Iraqi-militants-accidentally-blow-making-promotional-video-suicide-bomber-launch-attack.html

Brainwashed fucking idiots and they are already breeding them out here now just waiting for something to feel agrieved about! :facepalm:

[Banditbandit]

For your sake I hope you are more careful than these muppets...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556064/Gang-21-Iraqi-militants-accidentally-blow-making-promotional-video-suicide-bomber-launch-attack.html

Oh I don't know .. saved the western forces the expense and hassle of killing them ... can't be all bad ..

[Swoop]

Well, wango-tango day (as SARGE coined it) is upon us once again. The "National Day of Protest" will fill the 6pm "NEWS" slot.
A superb weekend to turn off the telly and go for a ride.

[bogan]

Well, wango-tango day (as SARGE coined it) is upon us once again. The "National Day of Protest" will fill the 6pm "NEWS" slot.
A superb weekend to turn off the telly and go for a ride.

maybe if the wind dies down a bit...

[Laava]

Well, wango-tango day (as SARGE coined it) is upon us once again. The "National Day of Protest" will fill the 6pm "NEWS" slot.
A superb weekend to turn off the telly and go for a ride.

See you in the forgotten world and whanganui river road then?

[Swoop]

See you in the forgotten world and whanganui river road then?

I'll be out on Te Roadz, but where...
Must ensure #plate is firmly fixed to the workbench because of the roadswine.:msn-wink:

[Tazz]

Public holiday, ha! I'll be at work.

[oldrider]

I feel I should be more excited and enthusiastic about our National day - Adage: "As you sow then shall you reap" springs to mind! :o . Man in the mirror? :facepalm: - :sunny:

[Indiana_Jones]

'ol National protest day.

[ruaphu]

Nah given up on that day, refuse to acknowledge it due to the fucktards grandstanding everywhere that have little idea what the day was meant for. Further more it's fucked further by halfwitted media giving those 'tards' air time and blowing everything out of proportion just for the ratings.

However I'm happy to take a free days leave and give it the two finger salute as to what it stands for then go an enjoy my day with all the other sane Kiwi's gettin on with life.

ANZAC day is the day.


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