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courts
8th February 2014, 20:41
After seeing a site the other day , thinking of trying (with necessary help of course) to recreate something like this....

http://www.bikeexif.com/honda-cb-cafe-racer

Pretty much like this using running in line 4 cylinder preferably Honda, using vfr swingarm insteadd of raked out number shown, good solid front end and

What frame, tank etc mods would need to be done and budget?

AllanB
8th February 2014, 21:52
Go for it. Looks like a Ducati rear end on that.

There is some bucks in that build still, cast you eye carefully over it.

Problem in NZ is that 'spares' are parts are stupid $ - a late model front end will cost too much. Cheap in the USA! worth looking at importing bits.

Start with a tidy donor and making a shopping list.

oneblackflag
8th February 2014, 22:14
After seeing a site the other day , thinking of trying (with necessary help of course) to recreate something like this....

http://www.bikeexif.com/honda-cb-cafe-racer

Pretty much like this using running in line 4 cylinder preferably Honda, using vfr swingarm insteadd of raked out number shown, good solid front end and

What frame, tank etc mods would need to be done and budget?

:drool: Mint. Been pondering one of these projects myself. :niceone:

courts
8th February 2014, 22:25
so start with a cb donor bike. or did they make steel frame vfrs earlier?

T.W.R
8th February 2014, 22:51
Look for a CB750K......less likely to have been thrashed or abused compared to a F and usually a lot cheaper.

there's this 900 on TM at the moment :rolleyes: seller is ever the optimist though

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-690093077.htm

courts
9th February 2014, 07:24
can you use the frame and engine components of a bike this age and convert to single shock ?

T.W.R
9th February 2014, 07:44
can you use the frame and engine components of a bike this age and convert to single shock ?

:scratch: isn't the CB in your link single shock & swingarm :rolleyes:

one of these K series not the earlier sohc

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20B/Honda%20cb750KZ.jpg

Drew
9th February 2014, 07:53
It's not hard to make a single shock top mount in a steel frame.

AllanB
9th February 2014, 09:22
can you use the frame and engine components of a bike this age and convert to single shock ?

Many have. To get it legal in NZ it would have to be certified - I'd pop into one of the companies that do certification and have a chat about your desires first - the good ones give out free advise and tell you what they need to see each step of the way. Much easier than rocking up all finished and they want to grind off the paint to have a look at the welds ........

courts
9th February 2014, 13:57
sweet as, so adjusting shock anf front end not a major , sweet running engine and good frame best starting point.looks like 3k. anyone specialise in this in Auckland for advice? deus?

Drew
9th February 2014, 17:17
sweet as, so adjusting shock anf front end not a major , sweet running engine and good frame best starting point.looks like 3k. anyone specialise in this in Auckland for advice? deus?Before you start that project, do me a favour?

Go out to the shed, and take the tank and subframe off your CBR250. Then tell me it doesn't straight away look like the coolest 'bobber' you have ever seen.

98tls
9th February 2014, 17:43
Look for a CB750K......less likely to have been thrashed or abused compared to a F and usually a lot cheaper.

there's this 900 on TM at the moment :rolleyes: seller is ever the optimist though

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-690093077.htm

Jesus is he ever,be ok at the right money though.

AllanB
9th February 2014, 18:47
FFS when you do this bike, don't paint the frame yellow .......:crazy:

HenryDorsetCase
9th February 2014, 19:29
After seeing a site the other day , thinking of trying (with necessary help of course) to recreate something like this....

http://www.bikeexif.com/honda-cb-cafe-racer

Pretty much like this using running in line 4 cylinder preferably Honda, using vfr swingarm insteadd of raked out number shown, good solid front end and

What frame, tank etc mods would need to be done and budget?

First, find a good running CB750 or CB900F. you would at least budget for a vapour blast and paint or something, plus anything the motor needs. Not sure if the carbs are stock or aftermarket. It can be difficult setting the CV carbs up to run well with pods and a 4 - 1 but stick a pin in that for now.

Now you need a Ducati Multistrada rear end. Have fun with that. Once you have it then you have to make sure that the swingarm goes in, that you have altered the frame to work with one single shock and instead of two up at the subframe. Then make a new subframe. Now make sure that the chain will be in a straignt line and that it will clear the rear wheel and that the rear wheel is in the middle of the bike.... (this is the key to that project by the way. Now go find a front end for it... That one is an R6. Now, make that fit.

You're on the home stretch now.... all you have to do is everything else. Electrics, clocks, make sure the thing has the wheels in line. Add some clipons or bars of your choice and away you go. bit of paint, some lights... easy. Oh, and an exhaust.

If you are paying to have it done I would say you would get no change from thirty grand maybe more. If you are DIY-ing and depending on your skills I reckon minimum ten to fifteen.

Bear in mind if you want to actually ride it you will need a LVV certificate. not sure how you go about that.

Or you could start with this bad boy:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=690093077 (you might have to search in expired listings with that number)


Unless you have a really good set of skills, a place to work, time on your hands and way more money than you think you will need, youre gonna have a bad time. Rule of thumb for DIY: It takes twice as long, and costs three times as much. Doesnt matter what it is.

HenryDorsetCase
9th February 2014, 19:31
sweet as, so adjusting shock anf front end not a major , sweet running engine and good frame best starting point.looks like 3k. anyone specialise in this in Auckland for advice? deus?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

dreamer.

HenryDorsetCase
9th February 2014, 19:33
so start with a cb donor bike. or did they make steel frame vfrs earlier?

the earliest VF (not VFR) had a steel frame. and a single rear shock.


and cams made of chocolate. but odds are if it is still running it will keep running as it had the recall mod.

T.W.R
9th February 2014, 19:53
Bit of time and effort anything is possible, if you've got the desire it'll happen

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=293458&d=1391931998

doesn't have to be fancy goodies to make things happen :msn-wink: this Z has a NC30 rear end, GSX-R750 front with a NSR wheel etc and all done on a budget :niceone:

HenryDorsetCase
9th February 2014, 20:09
Bit of time and effort anything is possible, if you've got the desire it'll happen


doesn't have to be fancy goodies to make things happen :msn-wink: this Z has a NC30 rear end, GSX-R750 front with a NSR wheel etc and all done on a budget :niceone:

Shit that is nice.

time and effort and skill and more time... and money and effort and skill.

I have an NC30 swingarm just laying around. (well and an NC30 frame and front end.)