Bali drug lady

[Shaun Harris]

why would any one import marujana into one of the capitals for export of it????

[mashman]

Dunno, but I'd fuck her.

[Shaun Harris]

Dunno, but I'd fuck her.





haha thought the exact same thing:banana:

[SMOKEU]

Guilty or not, I'd avoid that god forsaken hell hole (Indonesia) at all costs. It's got more fucking ragheads than any other country. The savages were even wanting to kill her at one point.

[Akzle]

somewhere between 'blonde' and 'has a vagina' you will find your answer.

The poor bitch 'needs counselling to adjust to freedom'

mmm mm, budda stix.

[Akzle]

The savages were even wanting to kill her at one point.

that democratically elected government, you mean?

Fuken shoulda.

[Shaun Harris]

somewhere between 'blonde' and 'has a vagina' you will find your answer.

The poor bitch 'needs counselling to adjust to freedom'

mmm mm, budda stix.





Taranaki used to be full of them man when the ships used to dock in New Plymouth

[Crasherfromwayback]

Dunno, but I'd fuck her.

Need to raise your sights a bit Bro!

[awa355]

There wouldn't be a media camera in sight if she was a unknown Susan Boyle lookalike.

[Katman]

I don't know whether she is guilty or innocent but there certainly seems to be some holes in the prosecution case.

Apparently, Schappell constantly asked that her luggage be weighed after she was arrested, in order to compare the weight with when the luggage was checked in at Sydney, but the Indonesian court refused, saying it was sufficient evidence of her guilt that the drugs were found in her possession.

She also asked for CCTV footage from Brisbane and Sydney airports and was told that no footage was available - even though, at exactly the time she passed through Sydney airport, the Australian Federal Police were conducting a sting operation there on some international drug smuggling ring.

Also, one of the AFP guys (who later went on the head the NSW Crime Commision) was later convicted of conspiring to import $160 million of precursor drugs into Australia.

[mashman]

Need to raise your sights a bit Bro!

:rofl: I didn't say I was gonna marry her and settle down.

[SMOKEU]

that democratically elected government, you mean?

Fuken shoulda.

It doesn't make any difference when the population and government are too stupid to realise that their entire belief system was fabricated by a paedophile and some other attention whores and has very little relevance to life today.

So do you support killing people just because of pot?

[Banditbandit]

It doesn't make any difference when the population and government are too stupid to realise that their entire belief system was fabricated by a paedophile and some other attention whores and has very little relevance to life today.

So do you support killing people just because of pot?

Hey ... how dare you talk about Christianity like that ..

[SMOKEU]

Hey ... how dare you talk about Christianity like that ..

Name one Christian country which still carries out the death penalty for apostasy, adultery, or homosexuality. How many Christian countries have no written criminal law, and base all their laws on the bible or other religious matter? Over the past couple of hundred years, there has been a huge separation between Church and state in Christian countries. Contrast this with all the Islamic states around, or those that have been formed since.

You have some research to do.

[Banditbandit]

Name one Christian country which still carries out the death penalty for apostasy, adultery, or homosexuality. How many Christian countries have no written criminal law, and base all their laws on the bible or other religious matter? Over the past couple of hundred years, there has been a huge separation between Church and state in Christian countries. Contrast this with all the Islamic states around, or those that have been formed since.

You have some research to do.

Hang on .. you're changing the grounds .. what you said was this ... (I agree with all you say above, by the way ...)


It doesn't make any difference when the population and government are too stupid to realise that their entire belief system was fabricated by a paedophile and some other attention whores and has very little relevance to life today.

So do you support killing people just because of pot?

I was making a joke - as the same allegations can be made of Christianity ..

[Crasherfromwayback]

:rofl: I didn't say I was gonna marry her and settle down.

Maybe not. But still!

[SMOKEU]

I was making a joke - as the same allegations can be made of Christianity ..

Even though I'm not Christian myself, how many Christian extremists are there these days? They certainly do exist, but in such small numbers that they get up to fuck all. Contrast this with the extremely large, and ever growing Islamic extremism movement. People in countries like NZ are sheltered in their own little world and have no understanding of what actually goes on in the world. The truth is far too fucked up for the mainstream media to show, hence the majority of people live under a rock (figuratively speaking).

[mashman]

Maybe not. But still!

Yes dear. Sorry dear.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes dear. Sorry dear.

Lol. That's better. Mind you...she's worth a bit...so...

[300weatherby]

Even though I'm not Christian myself, how many Christian extremists are there these days? They certainly do exist, but in such small numbers that they get up to fuck all. Contrast this with the extremely large, and ever growing Islamic extremism movement. People in countries like NZ are sheltered in their own little world and have no understanding of what actually goes on in the world. The truth is far too fucked up for the mainstream media to show, hence the majority of people live under a rock (figuratively speaking).

It is a sad fact, that despite the internet and information availability on a scale never seen before in history, that most New Zealanders have no idea who and what most third world islamist inhabitants are, and many here adhere to some kind of notion that they are civilized people deserving of our tolerance, our respect and when some of them manage to get into our country,they get preferential state treatment :housing, financial aid, taught how to manipulate the welfare system, no requirement to speak our language, assimilate into our society, understand and abide by OUR belief systems. Afghan, Pakistani and Somalian men in particular, are some of the worst examples of human garbage ever to walk the planet.

Redneck rage? maybe. View point is relative to things seen. NZ is protected ONLY by our relatively geographical isolation. We have always had weak governace, always desperate to pander to the world stage to be seen as progressive, generous and a player on an international level, for no reason other that political self indulgent expediency (aunty Helen being the best example) -Because of that, most NZ'rs are soft and complacent, until things turn to shit for them in some third world backwater, then they understand, too late, the difference between them and us.

Corby was stitched up because it suited the state, guilt or innocence was never an issue, she was only ever political captital, next spat between Aussie and Indo, you just might see Corby back behind bars again on some pretext or other.


Oh, and bring on the hate and the reds if you want, but first, go and see for yourself in third world shitholes, then, and only then, will you have the right to sit down opposite me and talk it over.

[Shaun Harris]

I don't know whether she is guilty or innocent but there certainly seems to be some holes in the prosecution case.

Apparently, Schappell constantly asked that her luggage be weighed after she was arrested, in order to compare the weight with when the luggage was checked in at Sydney, but the Indonesian court refused, saying it was sufficient evidence of her guilt that the drugs were found in her possession.

She also asked for CCTV footage from Brisbane and Sydney airports and was told that no footage was available - even though, at exactly the time she passed through Sydney airport, the Australian Federal Police were conducting a sting operation there on some international drug smuggling ring.

Also, one of the AFP guys (who later went on the head the NSW Crime Commision) was later convicted of conspiring to import $160 million of precursor drugs into Australia.







Bang on man, I am convinced she was stitched up big time. She was used to try and scare of others

[Banditbandit]

Even though I'm not Christian myself, how many Christian extremists are there these days? They certainly do exist, but in such small numbers that they get up to fuck all. Contrast this with the extremely large, and ever growing Islamic extremism movement. People in countries like NZ are sheltered in their own little world and have no understanding of what actually goes on in the world. The truth is far too fucked up for the mainstream media to show, hence the majority of people live under a rock (figuratively speaking).

See . I would put Geo W Bush in there as a Christian Extremist ... and he's done untold damage ..

[SMOKEU]

See . I would put Geo W Bush in there as a Christian Extremist ... and he's done untold damage ..

What he did wasn't all in the name of Christianity. How many people did he have killed, all because they didn't believe in exactly his religion? Did he go around ordering Christians from other denominations to be killed, all because of religion (in a similar way to the war between Sunni and Shiite Muslims?). Did he ever condone blowing up churches that taught a slightly different version of Christianity that he believed in?

[SMOKEU]

It is a sad fact, that despite the internet and information availability on a scale never seen before in history, that most New Zealanders have no idea who and what most third world islamist inhabitants are, and many here adhere to some kind of notion that they are civilized people deserving of our tolerance, our respect and when some of them manage to get into our country,they get preferential state treatment :housing, financial aid, taught how to manipulate the welfare system, no requirement to speak our language, assimilate into our society, understand and abide by OUR belief systems. Afghan, Pakistani and Somalian men in particular, are some of the worst examples of human garbage ever to walk the planet.

Redneck rage? maybe. View point is relative to things seen. NZ is protected ONLY by our relatively geographical isolation. We have always had weak governace, always desperate to pander to the world stage to be seen as progressive, generous and a player on an international level, for no reason other that political self indulgent expediency (aunty Helen being the best example) -Because of that, most NZ'rs are soft and complacent, until things turn to shit for them in some third world backwater, then they understand, too late, the difference between them and us.

Corby was stitched up because it suited the state, guilt or innocence was never an issue, she was only ever political captital, next spat between Aussie and Indo, you just might see Corby back behind bars again on some pretext or other.


Oh, and bring on the hate and the reds if you want, but first, go and see for yourself in third world shitholes, then, and only then, will you have the right to sit down opposite me and talk it over.

That's exactly right; Islamic states do not even adhere to the most basic internationally recognised human rights. People love to criticise me for being "intolerant", just because I don't support gay marriage for example (I never said that I want gays killed or harmed), whereas it's a proven fact that in many Islamic countries that they support and carry out the death penalty for gays. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam#Homosexuality_laws_in_majority_Musli m_countries) Those same people then criticize me for speaking out about these savages. Hypocritical much?

Women are treated like property, in a similar way that we treat domesticated animals. Root outside of marriage? Stone her to death. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajm)

These are just some examples I picked. I can't be fucked spending half the day looking up evidence of more of this shit, but just go on bestgore.com or theync.com and see for yourself.

[MD]

why would any one import marujana into one of the capitals for export of it????

Exactly. There in lies the most obvious reason to doubt her guilt. Rumours were she also tried to smuggle coal to Newcastle.

I made my way up through SE Asia as a wayward Youth and it buggers belief that anyone would bother to bring dope with them, let alone for commercial gain. It was readily available on every back street corner and in most eateries and the like.

[Shaun Harris]

Exactly. There in lies the most obvious reason to doubt her guilt. Rumours were she also tried to smuggle coal to Newcastle.

I made my way up through SE Asia as a wayward Youth and it buggers belief that anyone would bother bring dope with them, let alone for commercial gain. It was readily available on every back street corner and in most eateries and the like.





Exactually mate, I have travelled those parts of the world myself and know 1st hand what is availlable there, I'm a taranaki boy who has explored lifes options before I started racing seriously.

[mashman]

Lol. That's better. Mind you...she's worth a bit...so...

You mean she might pay me :laugh:

[Shaun Harris]

You mean she might pay me :laugh:





I think the aim a bit higher remark, was meant to mean her mouth

[Maha]

She could have earned a reported $3million over the last ten years, $300,000pa ..anyone here come close to earning that?

[husaberg]

MY slant is thus she was likely silly young and so forth
I seem to remember it came out later father co-incidentally was a drug trafficker. (yes i know not necessarily guilty just because association)

I never thought she was that pretty either......
Either way probably best 9 years of her life lost in an all women's prison.........

[mashman]

I think the aim a bit higher remark, was meant to mean her mouth

bwaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa... fuck that, I'm going for the eyes.

[ellipsis]

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[Winston001]

No idea whether she was guilty of smuggling cannabis but being caught in an airport with a boogie board full of the stuff is pretty hard to defend. Also she is alleged to have said to the Customs officer "the stuffs not mine".

Whatever. Almost sentenced to death then 9 years in a raw prison is bloody harsh for simply smuggling cannabis. The same drug which is now lawful in parts of the USA and Europe.

Guilty or innocent this young woman has lost years of her life and that is sad.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The bit I struggle with is...if you put your boogie bag onto the scales at the airport yourself and it didn't have the hooch in it...when you went to pick it up at the other end and it suddenly had 4.2kgs of hooch in it...wouldn't alarm bells be ringing in your head right away? I fucking know if I went to pick any boogie bag of mine up in a place like Bali and it was 4.2kgs heavier I'd put it straight back down and leave the fucking thing there!

[Katman]

The bit I struggle with is...if you put your boogie bag onto the scales at the airport yourself and it didn't have the hooch in it...when you went to pick it up at the other end and it suddenly had 4.2kgs of hooch in it...wouldn't alarm bells be ringing in your head right away? I fucking know if I went to pick any boogie bag of mine up in a place like Bali and it was 4.2kgs heavier I'd put it straight back down and leave the fucking thing there!

That's what I can't understand though.

In the interest of a fair trial why would the Indonesian court not weigh her luggage and then compare it to the weight when checked in at Sydney.

If they weighed the same she's guilty as. If they weighed 4 kgs different then she's been stitched up.

[Shaun Harris]

The bit I struggle with is...if you put your boogie bag onto the scales at the airport yourself and it didn't have the hooch in it...when you went to pick it up at the other end and it suddenly had 4.2kgs of hooch in it...wouldn't alarm bells be ringing in your head right away? I fucking know if I went to pick any boogie bag of mine up in a place like Bali and it was 4.2kgs heavier I'd put it straight back down and leave the fucking thing there!







is it possible she was just naive and not thinking about that? Doinkt that I would have remembered weights of bags I have taken places around the world, even into shit hole dangerous places like thailand etc

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's what I can't understand though.

In the interest of a fair trial why would the Indonesian court not weigh her luggage and then compare it to the weight when checked in at Sydney.

If they weighed the same she's guilty as. If they weighed 4 kgs different then she's been stitched up.

Couldn't agree more.


is it possible she was just naive and not thinking about that? Doinkt that I would have remembered weights of bags I have taken places around the world, even into shit hole dangerous places like thailand etc

I hear what you're saying...and I'd agree if the bag in question was already 20 odd kg's or something. But a boogie board and bag weight how much? So all of a sudden it's like prob double it's orig weight maybe? I still think bells would be sounding in my head. Mind you...I hear bells all day long.

[ellipsis]

...it's a big bad world...full of dumb cunts, greedy cunts, scummy cunts and silly cunts...and even innocent cunts...the good cunts are out there too, they just dont get to feature in this shit so much...unless they are dumb...

[Shaun Harris]

Couldn't agree more.



I hear what you're saying...and I'd agree if the bag in question was already 20 odd kg's or something. But a boogie board and bag weight how much? So all of a sudden it's like prob double it's orig weight maybe? I still think bells would be sounding in my head. Mind you...I hear bells all day long.








that does raise a good point as it would be noticeable I guess, unless the saying about blonds is actual fact in this case

[Shaun Harris]

...it's a big bad world...full of dumb cunts, greedy cunts, scummy cunts and silly cunts...and even innocent cunts...the good cunts are out there too, they just dont get to feature in this shit so much...unless they are dumb...







major key word in that post hahaha

[SPman]

Corby was stitched up because it suited the state, guilt or innocence was never an issue, she was only ever political capital, next spat between Aussie and Indo, you just might see Corby back behind bars again on some pretext or other. More than likely - 9 years in the can for stupidity does seem a bit harsh!
Had a cousin who was stopped by a pair of Police in Thailand, who then searched his pack and mysteriously pulled out a bag of heroin....! Only the fact that he was the son of a famous New Zealander and a serious diplomatic incident could ensue, saved his bacon! The cops pulled their scam on the wrong guy - peter may be strange, but he wasn't into drugs at all.........and I'd know.
Next boat full of refugees the Aussies send back will probably see her pulled back into prison on some trumped up reason.....

[SMOKEU]

That's what I can't understand though.
In the interest of a fair trial why would the Indonesian court not weigh her luggage and then compare it to the weight when checked in at Sydney.


Do you really think that snackbarists give a fuck about a fair trial? :lol:

They don't care about anything other than their pitiful lives wasted being a slave to some imaginary deity who they are prepared to kill for, or at least lock up in jail for a very long time. Common sense and a little bit of intelligence are about as far from reality as possible when dealing with these primitive animals. That's why whites (the non terrorist kind) have no business being in those shitholes.

[Winston001]

Do you really think that snackbarists give a fuck about a fair trial? :lol:

They don't care about anything other than their pitiful lives wasted being a slave to some imaginary deity who they are prepared to kill for, or at least lock up in jail for a very long time.

Reality check.

Indonesia is a democracy. It is not a theocratic state. There are only two - Iran and the Vatican City.

Indonesia is a Muslim country but then Australia and NZ are regarded as Christian countries from outside.

Indonesian law is based on Roman law derived from the Dutch. Their legal system isn't greatly different from our own.

[Shaun Harris]

glad i posted this, I understand a lot of you meat heads much better:sunny:

[Winston001]

....next spat between Aussie and Indo, you just might see Corby back behind bars again on some pretext or other.




Next boat full of refugees the Aussies send back will probably see her pulled back into prison on some trumped up reason.....

Nah, there is already a big spat with egg on the Aussies faces for spying on the Indonesian President and nine other big wigs (Edward Snowden info). The Indonesians are furious (just like Angela Merkel) and if Shapelle Corby mattered to them she wouldn't be being released.

Really she is just another white tourist who disrespected the local laws and has been a small irritation because of media interest.

As for the Aussies, when Corby was paid $280,000 for a story, the Oz govt tried to seize it as proceeds of crime but the family got the money away. Funnily enough Indonesia doesn't have that law so shes better off over there. Weird eh.

[SPman]

Yeah - they reckon channel 7...or 10....or 9....or somebody has paid $2mill for the first interview! ...and the Aussies are scared of Indonesia, anyway....

[BMWST?]

Yeah - they reckon channel 7...or 10....or 9....or somebody has paid $2mill for the first interview! ...and the Aussies are scared of Indonesia, anyway....
and they(and we) should be ,there are many millions more of them than aussies and us put together

[Bikemad]

i reckon shes guilty as sin.....the whole family is bent............in my opinion her cry for them to check the check in weights of her bags at sydney and then bali was her out if she got caught........obviously they would be different if someone else stuffed her bag but.......that doesn't mean she wasn't a party as to what was going on......i think the pot was destined for the benefit of other aussie tourists who would rather deal with aussies than risk buying off locals who might dob them to the local bent cop who then takes the pot off the aussies.....takes a bribe then gives the pot back to the unscrupulous local to resell and start the cycle again...just sayin..........also the extra weight of her boogie board bag... to put it in terms we are all more familiar with...would be the equivelent of adding 14 cans of Tui beer to her bag..........and she didn't notice......yeah right

[Mike.Gayner]

She's probably guilty, not that it should matter. 9 years for a bit of weed is beyond ridiculous. The idea that some of the locals were calling for the death penalty blows my mind.

[Katman]

........obviously they would be different if someone else stuffed her bag but.......that doesn't mean she wasn't a party as to what was going on......

That's rather a large assumption.

If the bag was tampered with by baggage handlers after she checked her luggage in there would be nothing to support the assumption that she was in on the deal.

Please tell me you've never been on a jury.

[Bikemad]

as i said....just my opinion............seems she was quick to come up with the weight theory in her defence but failed to notice an extra 4.2 kgs when she picked up her bag.......really?

[Banditbandit]

That's rather a large assumption.

If the bag was tampered with by baggage handlers after she checked her luggage in there would be nothing to support the assumption that she was in on the deal.

Please tell me you've never been on a jury.

Jeez .. you're a great one to say that .. what happened to the WTC again ??? (oh ... not really ... I'll pass on your response thank you)

[Katman]

Jeez .. you're a great one to say that .. what happened to the WTC again ??? (oh ... not really ... I'll pass on your response thank you)

There's a huge difference between making assumptions and having an open, enquiring mind.

You should try it some time.

[Bikemad]

there would be nothing to support the assumption that she was in on the deal.

Please tell me you've never been on a jury.

so what evidence do you have that she wasn't in on the deal..........her word for it?

Please!.....you tell me you have never served on a Jury

[Katman]

so what evidence do you have that she wasn't in on the deal..........her word for it?

Please!.....you tell me you have never served on a Jury

Juries are required to consider facts - not make assumptions.

[Banditbandit]

There's a huge difference between making assumptions and having an open, enquiring mind.

You should try it some time.

I should think that the best demonstration of an open mind would be you considering that there might be ... (Oh fuck it .. I can't be bothered )

[Katman]

(Oh fuck it .. I can't be bothered )

I'll take that as "I've got nothing".

[Shaun Harris]

I never followed the whole case, but from what I have read recently,

There was some kind of operation going down in the Australian airport on the day of her departure, and surprise surprise there is NO video of the baggage etc??? Of course people at the top would have known this operation was going down in the airport on the day, and what better way to get rid of the pot than dump it in some else's luggage to get it off sight and outa the country, WHITE collar crime is huge as we all know!


Re the weight thing, Can some show me the wording she used in her deffence regarding the weight please??

I understood Crashers comments about noticing the weight diff your self, but she may have held more than one bag in her arm at the time of collection, and also she may not have noticed the diff due to be either silly/tired/pumped up about her holliday etc


Re saying she IS/WAS a drug trafficker due to her family history is so small and narrow minded ( Yes it would make authorities look) but any one that seriously believes this be true, may as well have me prossocuted for drug dealing also, as I have smoked pot, and I have known people in the past that have transported drugs around the world, and I do know people who are in prison still today for growing major amounts of Marijuana and lived in house years ago with a drug dealer of Pot.

Should I say good bye to my family now?

This was a case of we can make the shoe fit i feel, if a small % of the money spent on conviction her was spent on Chasing Chemicall drug dealers etc, it would have been much healthier.

[Bikemad]

I never followed the whole case, but from what I have read recently,

There was some kind of operation going down in the Australian airport on the day of her departure, and surprise surprise there is NO video of the baggage etc??? Of course people at the top would have known this operation was going down in the airport on the day, and what better way to get rid of the pot than dump it in some else's luggage to get it off sight and outa the country, WHITE collar crime is huge as we all know!


Re the weight thing, Can some show me the wording she used in her deffence regarding the weight please??

I understood Crashers comments about noticing the weight diff your self, but she may have held more than one bag in her arm at the time of collection, and also she may not have noticed the diff due to be either silly/tired/pumped up about her holliday etc


Re saying she IS/WAS a drug trafficker due to her family history is so small and narrow minded ( Yes it would make authorities look) but any one that seriously believes this be true, may as well have me prossocuted for drug dealing also, as I have smoked pot, and I have known people in the past that have transported drugs around the world, and I do know people who are in prison still today for growing major amounts of Marijuana and lived in house years ago with a drug dealer of Pot.

Should I say good bye to my family now?

This was a case of we can make the shoe fit i feel, if a small % of the money spent on conviction her was spent on Chasing Chemicall drug dealers etc, it would have been much healthier.

fuck what a pile of twaddle............sounds like someone has a crush on ol scappelle eh?.............please feel free to direct us to "what i have read recently"...would that be womans day or one of ya favourite tweenie mags.............give up mate........she ain't gonna root ya

[Shaun Harris]

sticks and stones dude, carry on being a keyboard hero:yes:

[Katman]

please feel free to direct us to "what i have read recently"...would that be womans day or one of ya favourite tweenie mags.............

Have you actually read anything about the case?

[Bikemad]

i doubt she would root you either katman .........as i said right at the start.......only my opinion

[Shaun Harris]

i doubt she would root you either katman .........as i said right at the start.......only my opinion



Katman, just ignore dude

[Bikemad]

Katman, just ignore dude

thats what Ed does when he can't back up his "research" either

[Shaun Harris]

Thoughts Mr Japa land Brian D, ps, have a Kirin ichi ban 4 me mate awsome lager

[Katman]

as i said right at the start.......only my opinion

And you know what they say about opinions.

[Bikemad]

indeed i do.........offer stands for you too Kat........enlighten us with your in depth research..........

[Katman]

indeed i do.........offer stands for you too Kat........enlighten us with your in depth research..........

Hey, at least I'd made myself aware of the undercover sting operation at Sydney airport, the lack of CCTV footage, the later conviction of a cop involved in that operation and the refusal to weigh the luggage - to name but a few.

What exactly have you found out about the case?

[Shaun Harris]

Hey, at least I'd made myself aware of the undercover sting operation at Sydney airport, the lack of CCTV footage, the later conviction of a cop involved in that operation and the refusal to weigh the luggage - to name but a few.

What exactly have you found out about the case?






He is just a smart ass troll dude, forget about him, your research and quotes were perfect and factuall, he is just a lonely boy with nothing positive or constructive to say at all

[Bikemad]

well done that man...........doesn't really change my opinion tho sorry..........have you read the bible.........believe it all do you?
where does the conspiracy stop and the truth start...........:crazy:

[gammaguy]

She's probably guilty, not that it should matter. 9 years for a bit of weed is beyond ridiculous. The idea that some of the locals were calling for the death penalty blows my mind.

Most countries in South East Asia have incredibly stiff penalties for drug related offences.If she was not aware of this before she got there then she is dumber than a bag of hammers

We can all sit here and wring our hands about how terrible it all is for a "few bags of weed"but if you lived here (like I do) and saw (like I did) what happens when a few Indians in Singapore overindulge and have a "few bottles of beer" you will see why the law is the way it is http://www.straitstimes.com/little-india-riot

Some people are excitable enough as it is,and adding drugs to the mix makes it worse,with all the criminal behaviour that goes along with importing,using and dealing in it and Governments in this part of the world are well aware of this

good for them I say,lock them all up,and they can think themselves lucky they are not a local because if they were they would still be in there getting ass raped by the prison guards

[Bikemad]

nothing positive or constructive to say at all

bit like you when i needed a new shock a year or so back......:lol:

[Katman]

where does the conspiracy stop and the truth start...........:crazy:

That's what a fair trial is supposed to find out.

[Madness]

I think the aim a bit higher remark, was meant to mean her mouth

Always the best approach with Australian chicks, gag 'em quick!


She could have earned a reported $3million over the last ten years, $300,000pa ..anyone here come close to earning that?

There's probably a divorce or two in the mix of that equation which would explain the figure.

[Shaun Harris]

bit like you when i needed a new shock a year or so back......:lol:






Yea I know, im a total moron and useless sales man, thats why I just work for other people now

Have a great day Bye Bye

[Drew]

Reality check.

Indonesia is a democracy. It is not a theocratic state. There are only two - Iran and the Vatican City.

Indonesia is a Muslim country but then Australia and NZ are regarded as Christian countries from outside.

Indonesian law is based on Roman law derived from the Dutch. Their legal system isn't greatly different from our own.

This post actually makes the rest of the thread moot. If their judicial system is similar to ours.

Can anyone here tell me the first thing a parole board requires of an inmate? An admission of guilt is the answer.

She has had to have told officials she did it, understands the consequence, and convinced them she feels remorse.

Now, I know it's possible she said and did that solely to get out. But, would anyone here care to bet on her innocence knowing she has sworn she did it?

[Akzle]

jesus drew

[Shaun Harris]

This post actually makes the rest of the thread moot. If their judicial system is similar to ours.

Can anyone here tell me the first thing a parole board requires of an inmate? An admission of guilt is the answer.

She has had to have told officials she did it, understands the consequence, and convinced them she feels remorse.

Now, I know it's possible she said and did that solely to get out. But, would anyone here care to bet on her innocence knowing she has sworn she did it?







I am Drew, as you stated re the parole board, commen sense says, admit it too be able to be considered for parole, would you not do the same when in prison in such a shit hole, imagine the mental and physical abuse she went through over being a good looking blonde women.

[ellipsis]

jesus drew

...jesus drew what...still life or parallels to human behaviour through the use of parables...or water from the well...

[Bikemad]

a good looking blonde women.

should have gone to specsavers fella

[Drew]

I am Drew, as you stated re the parole board, commen sense says, admit it too be able to be considered for parole, would you not do the same when in prison in such a shit hole, imagine the mental and physical abuse she went through over being a good looking blonde women.I'll admit to the crime, if you stop putting so many commas in your sentences.

Man, I'd prolly admit to it to get out. Must be a cunt of a place to lose ten years of ones life like. But consider this for a mo. Admitting to the crime was not a guarantee of freedom, instead it was the first step to being at the mercy of a group of people she didn't know at all.

Now if someone were to have a bit of time on one's hands, like rotting away in a cell, that would surely need to be considered. Her right state of mind could be argued....but her lawyer had to file the application for a parole hearing, surely there was a reasonable voice there?

So given the above considerations, wanna make a decent bet that she's innocent?

[Katman]

So given the above considerations, wanna make a decent bet that she's innocent?

Did she actually admit to the crime?

This from Wikipedia.

Her parole conditions do not require her to admit any responsibility for the marijuana found in her possession in 2004.

[Drew]

Did she actually admit to the crime?
If their system is as close to ours as said earlier, I imagine she had to.

[Katman]

If their system is as close to ours as said earlier, I imagine she had to.

Well egg on your face Drew.

This from Wikipedia.

Her parole conditions do not require her to admit any responsibility for the marijuana found in her possession in 2004.

[Drew]

This from Wikipedia.

Her parole conditions do not require her to admit any responsibility for the marijuana found in her possession in 2004.Must be true, some geek loaded it on wikipedia.

You know damn well ont to bother linking or quoting that bulshit. For all you know, Ed put that on there!

[Katman]

Must be true, some geek loaded it on wikipedia.

You know damn well ont to bother linking or quoting that bulshit. For all you know, Ed put that on there!

It's better than your guesswork Drew.

[husaberg]

For f-sakes they didn't even know she was blonde..................

[Drew]

Well egg on your face Drew.Prey, how?

I said in the beginning of what I was saying, "if". That's not an implication, it flat out states there is an unknown in my musings.

I'm not trying to make a case one way or the other.

[Drew]

It's better than your guesswork Drew.Really? I am not guessing anything.

I barely have an opinion one way or the other, and I definitely don't have a feeling about it.

Troll others in this way if you must, I have committed to nothing so wont be raised into argument by it.

[Katman]

Prey, how?


You read a post by Winston which you took to mean that the Indonesian legal system is the same as ours. You therefore assumed that Schapelle Corby must have admitted to the crime in order to gain parole.

It would appear you're wrong.......again.

[Drew]

You read a post by Winston which you took to mean that the Indonesian legal system is the same as ours. You therefore assumed that Schapelle Corby must have admitted to the crime in order to gain parole.

It would appear you're wrong.......again.

You assume I have swallowed it whole, even though I was quite clear with my use of "if".

You state I'm wrong, without any factual knowledge of the truth.

[Katman]

You state I'm wrong, without any factual knowledge of the truth.

Do yourself a favour Drew - learn to read English.

I said "it would appear you're wrong".

[Drew]

Do yourself a favour Drew - learn to read English.

I said "it would appear you're wrong".

Right, "...again" didn't change the way that reads at all.

My mistake.

[Katman]

It has been well shown that Schapelle Corby's trial was a farce.

And, whether you like it or not, when a trial is shown to be a farce then the validity of any conviction resulting from that trial is highly questionable.

I stated early in this thread that I don't know whether she's innocent or guilty. There's no shortage of people though who lack the ability to think for themselves and have blindly accepted (and welcomed) the guilty verdict.

[husaberg]

I am still tying to get my head around how she is a blonde?

i am a bit dark on myself for that,like htf did i miss that?
I guess its way above my head......

[Katman]

I guess its way above my head......

No, worrying about something like that is probably right on your level.

[husaberg]

No, worrying about something like that is probably right on your level.

paws for thought, you can imply what ever suits Katmam...........My level is dry wit........your level is somewhat below sarcasm....

[Katman]

....have welcome the NOT GUILTY verdict as well......

You're confused, aren't you?

[Akzle]

paws for thought, you can imply what ever suits Katmam...........My level is dry wit........your level is somewhat below sarcasm....

youve missed the mark on all counts. Catman may be a dick.
But in your own right, youre not funny at all.

[Woodman]

You're confused, aren't you?

Generally speaking... yes.

[husaberg]

The bliss, The bliss. He often quotes me yet he forgets he on my ignore list.........
The ironic thing is he says stuff, in order to gain the attention he so craves.
The ultimate irony is he is the most ignored person on KB
winning at life........

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=293610&d=1392282411

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/misc.php?do=page&template=forums_stats

[Kickaha]

imagine the mental and physical abuse she went through over being a good looking blonde women.
If she wasn't "a good looking blonde women" there wouldn't have been all this bullshit about her plastered over the media for the last few years

[gammaguy]

youve missed the mark on all counts. Catman may be a dick.
But in your own right, youre not funny at all.

You inserted a C where it should have been a K

Stupid unt

[Akzle]

You inserted a C where it should have been a K

Stupid unt

i C u r yys 4 me

[Akzle]

The bliss, The bliss. He often quotes me yet he forgets he on my ignore list.........
The ironic thing is he says stuff, in order to gain the attention he so craves.
The ultimate irony is he is the most ignored person on KB
winning at life........


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/misc.php?do=page&template=forums_stats

grab a dictionary homeboy. You no comprende 'irony' ese

(nor 'wit' which rounds out my point nicely.)

[Banditbandit]

If she wasn't "a good looking blonde women" there wouldn't have been all this bullshit about her plastered over the media for the last few years

Where do you get "blonde" from ..



<img src="http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1362045/schapelle-corby-1.jpg" width="400px"/>

[Shaun Harris]

Where do you get "blonde" from ..



<img src="http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1362045/schapelle-corby-1.jpg" width="400px"/>







Prob from the same photo's I have seen of her with blonde hair, dye is a wonderfull thing eh

[husaberg]

I am Drew, as you stated re the parole board, commen sense says, admit it too be able to be considered for parole, would you not do the same when in prison in such a shit hole, imagine the mental and physical abuse she went through over being a good looking blonde women.


Prob from the same photo's I have seen of her with blonde hair, dye is a wonderfull thing eh

Never seen her blonde, post some pics, it could be pertinent in relation to her guilt or innocence.
I never thought she was that good looking, but has a certain appeal i guess.......
But i was always a sucker for big nipples........
Def not good looking enough to warrant the media attention she garners.

[Shaun Harris]

Never seen her blonde, post some pics, it could be pertinent in relation to her guilt or innocence.
I never thought she was that good looking, but has a certain appeal i guess.......
But i was always a sucker for big nipples........
Def not good looking enough to warrant the media attention she garners.







Eyes do it for me man, with women in general

[husaberg]

just for you
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjsuQVKfP1hjUEg2gHKLzYGOljNAYHi tC7uz1BbgFyMSu7Hfhb3whttp://www.thebalitimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/schapelle_corby.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/p403x403/1891114_638489256199389_778251848_n.jpg

[husaberg]

Not a patch on Anna Huchison
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvWj9ffUoOtqEhWSap-feclJkuBe4jb5pthHtnugwINYNnYW_Phttp://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/04/07/1225699/641270-underbelly-a-tale-of-two-cities.jpg

[Shaun Harris]

just for you
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjsuQVKfP1hjUEg2gHKLzYGOljNAYHi tC7uz1BbgFyMSu7Hfhb3whttp://www.thebalitimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/schapelle_corby.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/p403x403/1891114_638489256199389_778251848_n.jpg







Cheers, I do actually find her rather attractive

[Katman]

Def not good looking enough to warrant the media attention she garners.

Yeah, she only did it to get her face in the papers.

[Edbear]

Must be true, some geek loaded it on wikipedia.

You know damn well ont to bother linking or quoting that bulshit. For all you know, Ed put that on there!

It wasn't me and you can't prove I did! :shutup:

I followed the case at the time and it sounded like she was used by her father, probably without her knowledge. He's been dead silent on it.

[husaberg]

Yeah, she only did it to get her face in the papers.

She could join the kardasians.......

[Bikemad]

She could join the kardasians.......

are they blonde too?

[husaberg]

are they blonde too?

depending on the sponsorship deal.........they could be$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
This one has the talent...........

[Robbo]

Are you sure you are not confusing her with her charming blonde mother?? (pic attached)
Probably the cause of all Shapelle's problems in the first place

[Robbo]

A little Corby humour

[Shaun Harris]

Are you sure you are not confusing her with her charming blonde mother?? (pic attached)
Probably the cause of all Shapelle's problems in the first place




haha dam ya got me and my MILF desires

[Robbo]

haha dam ya got me and my MILF desires

Never mind Shaun, you can do better than that mate:niceone:

[Shaun Harris]

so today her parole office speaks up and says " If you accept payment from a tv station or similar to voice your oppinion we wll send you back to jail "



That alone tells me she herself is innocent and was stiched up big time, they want her to go away and say thankyou to them, arse holes, and what does the Australian goverment know that it is not talked about either after pushing for her release

No proof, just like everyone else on here, I have an arsehole

[Shaun Harris]

Never mind Shaun, you can do better than that mate:niceone:




True, gave myself a lovely hand job today for valantines day

[Shaun Harris]

Here is some real factual interesting info about all this

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 1.
On 27th May 2005, Schapelle Corby was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment, after 4.2kg of marijuana was found in her boogie-board bag on arrival in Denpasar. The disturbing nature of the trial itself created a huge public outcry in her native Australia. For her appeal, her lawyer sought help directly from the Australian government.

In a letter dated 5th July 2005, the CEO of Sydney Airport Corporation Ltd (SACL), Max Moore-Wilton, told Justice and Customs Minister, Christopher Ellison, that Schapelle Corby's boogie-board bag was the only one not scanned at Sydney airport on route to Bali. Ellison wrote to AFP Commissioner Keelty the following day, 6th July 2005, conveying the same information. Both men realized how important this information was to Schapelle Corby, as she stood before an Indonesian appeal court. Indeed, Ellison even referred to its evidential importance directly in his letter. Keelty subsequently confirmed in writing that Prime Minister John Howard discussed this verbally with him, on 8th July 2005. All parties were also aware that scanning of all luggage, on all flights to Indonesia, was mandatory.

Furthermore, Schapelle Corby's lawyer asked directly about scanning, in faxed letters to Ellison dated 6th July and 11th July, just days after Ellison and Keelty had discussed the importance of this new evidence. Ellison's responses of 8th July and 13th July evaded the issue entirely.

Neither Schapelle Corby, nor the Bali court, was ever provided with this vital information. It was wilfully withheld.

In addition, Ellison had no intention of revealing the situation to Parliament. In a prepared response for the potential question “If asked whether the Australian Government is aware that Schapelle Corby’s boogie-board bag was not screened at Sydney Airport”, Ellison had pre-prepared the following evasive text: “The Australian Government is aware of comments about the screening of Ms Corby’s boogie-board bag at Sydney airport. Screening of checked baggage at the International Terminal at Sydney Airport is carried out by SACL. I understand SACL informed Ms Corby about this issue as early as October 2004. On 12th June 2005 the Minister for Justice and Customs wrote to Ms Corby’s lawyers suggesting they approach the operators of Sydney and Brisbane Airports regarding the handling of her luggage in Australia. I understand that SACL has had continued contact with Ms Corby’s lawyers about the handling of Ms Corby’s baggage. It is important to note that the screening for flights leaving Australia is undertaken for aviation security purposes. The screening process is not intended to detect drugs”.

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 2.
On 8th October 2004, Schapelle Corby checked her bags in normally at Brisbane airport. There was no fuss, and no excess baggage charge.

Following her arrest in Bali, Schapelle Corby's lawyers asked directly about the weight of her bags, seeking to establish if there were any anomalies that might indicate an addition of between 4kg and 5kg, which was the approximate weight of the marijuana.

Qantas replied on 1st December 2004, providing only the total weight of her bags. It was flagrantly economical with the truth.
The weight of her bags on the Qantas system was actually 5kg overweight, which should have incurred an excess baggage charge of $175. This was exactly, and self evidently, the sort of information which Schapelle Corby’s lawyers were desperately seeking.

Again, vital and critical evidence was withheld from Schapelle Corby, her lawyer, and the Bali court. Neither Qantas, nor Ellison’s department, which was co-coordinating responses, ever divulged it.

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 3.
Justice and Customs Minister, Christopher Ellison was at the heart of Schapelle Corby's desperate efforts to secure forensic testing. In a bizarre sequence of events, the Indonesian National Police were very receptive to the general suggestion that the AFP should forensically test the marijuana. Ellison was personally informed of this by AFP briefing note 3286440.

Subsequently, Keelty visited his counterpart in Bali. However, according to the Indonesian police, no specific request for testing was forthcoming. This was also confirmed by a DFAT briefing note dated 21st December 2004.

Further, Parliament was told directly that the AFP did not have the expertise to test the marijuana, even though it had originally offered this to assist the INP, and even though a forensic expert in Australia had offered to perform the tests (again, on record). Alarmingly, Parliament was also told that the INP had rejected the request. Both these stories were entirely false.

Schapelle Corby openly pleaded for the forensic testing of her bag, and particularly, the marijuana found within. Her lawyers wrote to the Australian government, detailing a list of the specific tests required (letter dated 3rd December 2004). She directly asked the Australian consulate (consulate file note dated 4th December 2004). She asked the court repeatedly, as also recorded by DFAT file notes of February and March 2005. She pleaded with the prosecutor directly in front of the media.

However, on 24th May 2006, in a letter to a constituent, whilst inexcusably defending the burning of the primary evidence by the Indonesians, Ellison stated that, “The Bali court, on its own authority, or upon application by Ms Corby, could also authorise a request for forensic assistance. No such request was made, either by the Indonesian authorities or by Ms Corby.”

Ellison was well aware that Schapelle Corby did make such a request, repeatedly. His statement was totally and utterly false.

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 4.
On 23rd August 2005, Schapelle Corby's Indonesian lawyer wrote a formal letter to Justice and Customs Minister, Christopher Ellison, Foreign Minister Alexander Downer and Prime Minister John Howard, stating directly that her 20-year sentence was discriminatory in nature. He cited examples of Indonesians receiving a fraction of that time, including for offences involving hundreds of kilograms of marijuana.

The letter was not even acknowledged. Indeed, the Australian government continued to present the sentence as though it was wholly within normal parameters, and equally, continued to dismiss the clear and documented abuses at the trial itself. Numerous direct comments, by Foreign Minister Alexander Downer in particular, are on public record.

In 2012, Indonesian human rights campaigner, Arifin Wardiyanto, undertook a significant research effort, identifying dozens of marijuana-related cases via examination of the Supreme Court database. He tabulated these and demonstrated that Schapelle Corby's sentence far exceeded that of all Indonesians, not only convicted for similar amounts, but many times greater. Her sentence was at least 4x higher per kilogram of marijuana than that imposed on any Indonesian. All this information was sent to the Australian government. It was ignored.

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 5.
Justice and Customs Minister, Christopher Ellison, in fact, was also at the heart of an entire series of disturbing events, all of which were extremely damaging to Schapelle Corby and her family. The three examples below were selected from many:

1) The PowderGate affair unfolded on 1st June 2005, directly after the verdict and the unprecedented 20-year sentence. In a nutshell, flour was sent to the Indonesian embassy in Sydney with a note written in Bahasa which bore no reference at all to Schapelle Corby. Immediately, the government accused supporters of Schapelle Corby of a “murderous attack”, instantly dampening public anger and support for her. However, at 6:35pm on the same day, the AFP’s national manager of intelligence sent an email to Ellison. This was marked URGENT. It was very clear. It explained in simple terms that the substance was only gram bacilli, a commonly occurring bacteria. What did Ellison do, armed with the information that this was merely one of many white-powder hoaxes, which occurred in Australia each month? Nothing. The false story was allowed to roll around the world, and syndication continued across Australia for days.

2) After the original trial, two Australian QC’s were pressed upon the Corby family by the government, in time for the appeal. Whilst it was difficult to understand how two non-Indonesian speaking lawyers could actually provide practical assistance, government ministers were forceful, with the media repeatedly citing it as significant “help”, pressuring the family further. In the middle of the appeal, one of them, Mark Trowell, fatally undermined her prospects when he made a series of unsubstantiated allegations against her defence team, accusing them of seeking funds for bribes. He offered no evidence whatsoever, even though he and the Australian government must have been well aware that this was, in fact, the modus operandi in that nation. Mark Trowell, on oath, later stated that he was working for the Australian government all along. He was a Liberal Party member, and long term friend and colleague of, Justice and Customs Minister Ellison.

3) Schapelle Corby needed every cent of revenue from her book, “My Story”. This was intended to pay for medication, food, and for an extra-ordinary legal appeal. On 8th November 2006, the AFP began a large-scale investigation and extensive surveillance operation, reporting to the Minister of Justice and Customs, Ellison. The outcome was a politically driven ‘proceeds of crime’ case, which many consider to have subverted the judiciary itself. It was held in secret, with Schapelle Corby having no representation whatsoever. Indeed, she wasn’t even aware of it, nor was any other Corby family member. It also extended Australian legal reach beyond Australian borders. The money was duly seized. Even worse, this occurred whilst Schapelle Corby was still in legal-process in Indonesia. The signal to Jakarta, that she was considered, by Canberra, to have committed a crime, could hardly have been mistaken. Schapelle Corby remains the only person in Australian history to have had book revenue seized under ‘proceeds of crime’ legislation.

These are real examples of major news stories, of enormous public interest and implication. Yet, they represent just a handful of examples from many, most of which are fully documented on The Expendable Project’s website: www.expendable.tv

The Australian mainstream media, however, has never reported any of this nor is any of the documentation proving her innocence ever mentioned.

Until Schapelle's mother wore a t-shit, on the day of Schapelle's release, with The Expendable Project website address printed across the front, the media had not even acknowledged its existence. Following this incident, Fairfax Media in particular, launched an entire series of articles abusing the website and those they linked to it, without, of course, ever explaining what it actually held.

The rest of the coverage, generally, has comprised crude smears against family members, ridiculous but damaging stories invented from nothing, a vicious campaign to press the government to seize her only form of revenue for medication, and worst of all, two attempts to have her thrown back into prison by presenting bogus breaches of parole conditions to the Indonesian authorities.

On television, Nine Network has even broadcast, twice, a terrible production which places proven lies into Schapelle Corby's mouth, by using her dead father... in Australia, dead men can't sue.

This is a campaign of smear and vilification like no other.

The facts, documented by the government itself, in its own cables and correspondence, are totally censored. Replacing them are baseless smears, prejudice, and fabrication, and a neveriending stream of articles and broadcasts designed to poison public perception, and influence events on the ground against her.

On the surface, this may sound like an absurd suggestion. But if that surface is scratched, if the facts are established and considered, the situation is undeniable.

Australians are not being served by the mainstream media, but instead, are being controlled by it. Public opinion is being formed via a diet of self-serving news management, extreme censorship, and ruthless smearing propaganda.

It is Australia, in 2014, and an innocent human being continues to be tormented.

SOURCE:
www.expendable.tv

BASED ON ORIGINAL ARTICLE:
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=633747
Real reporting is the communication of actual events, supported by hard evidential material. It is revealing factual information, which is conclusively proven by authentic documentation.

Australia, however, does not have a free or functional media, nor apparently, a single journalist of sufficient integrity or courage to report independently or honestly. If that sounds harsh, consider the following examples.

Their implications for the nation are immense, exposing a government and establishment so corrupt, that it is prepared to sacrifice an innocent life to preserve its own self-interests. Yet, they remain unreported. In Australia, they are censored, and hidden from the public:

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 1.
On 27th May 2005, Schapelle Corby was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment, after 4.2kg of marijuana was found in her boogie-board bag on arrival in Denpasar. The disturbing nature of the trial itself created a huge public outcry in her native Australia. For her appeal, her lawyer sought help directly from the Australian government.

In a letter dated 5th July 2005, the CEO of Sydney Airport Corporation Ltd (SACL), Max Moore-Wilton, told Justice and Customs Minister, Christopher Ellison, that Schapelle Corby's boogie-board bag was the only one not scanned at Sydney airport on route to Bali. Ellison wrote to AFP Commissioner Keelty the following day, 6th July 2005, conveying the same information. Both men realized how important this information was to Schapelle Corby, as she stood before an Indonesian appeal court. Indeed, Ellison even referred to its evidential importance directly in his letter. Keelty subsequently confirmed in writing that Prime Minister John Howard discussed this verbally with him, on 8th July 2005. All parties were also aware that scanning of all luggage, on all flights to Indonesia, was mandatory.

Furthermore, Schapelle Corby's lawyer asked directly about scanning, in faxed letters to Ellison dated 6th July and 11th July, just days after Ellison and Keelty had discussed the importance of this new evidence. Ellison's responses of 8th July and 13th July evaded the issue entirely.

Neither Schapelle Corby, nor the Bali court, was ever provided with this vital information. It was wilfully withheld.

In addition, Ellison had no intention of revealing the situation to Parliament. In a prepared response for the potential question “If asked whether the Australian Government is aware that Schapelle Corby’s boogie-board bag was not screened at Sydney Airport”, Ellison had pre-prepared the following evasive text: “The Australian Government is aware of comments about the screening of Ms Corby’s boogie-board bag at Sydney airport. Screening of checked baggage at the International Terminal at Sydney Airport is carried out by SACL. I understand SACL informed Ms Corby about this issue as early as October 2004. On 12th June 2005 the Minister for Justice and Customs wrote to Ms Corby’s lawyers suggesting they approach the operators of Sydney and Brisbane Airports regarding the handling of her luggage in Australia. I understand that SACL has had continued contact with Ms Corby’s lawyers about the handling of Ms Corby’s baggage. It is important to note that the screening for flights leaving Australia is undertaken for aviation security purposes. The screening process is not intended to detect drugs”.

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 2.
On 8th October 2004, Schapelle Corby checked her bags in normally at Brisbane airport. There was no fuss, and no excess baggage charge.

Following her arrest in Bali, Schapelle Corby's lawyers asked directly about the weight of her bags, seeking to establish if there were any anomalies that might indicate an addition of between 4kg and 5kg, which was the approximate weight of the marijuana.

Qantas replied on 1st December 2004, providing only the total weight of her bags. It was flagrantly economical with the truth.
The weight of her bags on the Qantas system was actually 5kg overweight, which should have incurred an excess baggage charge of $175. This was exactly, and self evidently, the sort of information which Schapelle Corby’s lawyers were desperately seeking.

Again, vital and critical evidence was withheld from Schapelle Corby, her lawyer, and the Bali court. Neither Qantas, nor Ellison’s department, which was co-coordinating responses, ever divulged it.

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 3.
Justice and Customs Minister, Christopher Ellison was at the heart of Schapelle Corby's desperate efforts to secure forensic testing. In a bizarre sequence of events, the Indonesian National Police were very receptive to the general suggestion that the AFP should forensically test the marijuana. Ellison was personally informed of this by AFP briefing note 3286440.

Subsequently, Keelty visited his counterpart in Bali. However, according to the Indonesian police, no specific request for testing was forthcoming. This was also confirmed by a DFAT briefing note dated 21st December 2004.

Further, Parliament was told directly that the AFP did not have the expertise to test the marijuana, even though it had originally offered this to assist the INP, and even though a forensic expert in Australia had offered to perform the tests (again, on record). Alarmingly, Parliament was also told that the INP had rejected the request. Both these stories were entirely false.

Schapelle Corby openly pleaded for the forensic testing of her bag, and particularly, the marijuana found within. Her lawyers wrote to the Australian government, detailing a list of the specific tests required (letter dated 3rd December 2004). She directly asked the Australian consulate (consulate file note dated 4th December 2004). She asked the court repeatedly, as also recorded by DFAT file notes of February and March 2005. She pleaded with the prosecutor directly in front of the media.

However, on 24th May 2006, in a letter to a constituent, whilst inexcusably defending the burning of the primary evidence by the Indonesians, Ellison stated that, “The Bali court, on its own authority, or upon application by Ms Corby, could also authorise a request for forensic assistance. No such request was made, either by the Indonesian authorities or by Ms Corby.”

Ellison was well aware that Schapelle Corby did make such a request, repeatedly. His statement was totally and utterly false.

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 4.
On 23rd August 2005, Schapelle Corby's Indonesian lawyer wrote a formal letter to Justice and Customs Minister, Christopher Ellison, Foreign Minister Alexander Downer and Prime Minister John Howard, stating directly that her 20-year sentence was discriminatory in nature. He cited examples of Indonesians receiving a fraction of that time, including for offences involving hundreds of kilograms of marijuana.

The letter was not even acknowledged. Indeed, the Australian government continued to present the sentence as though it was wholly within normal parameters, and equally, continued to dismiss the clear and documented abuses at the trial itself. Numerous direct comments, by Foreign Minister Alexander Downer in particular, are on public record.

In 2012, Indonesian human rights campaigner, Arifin Wardiyanto, undertook a significant research effort, identifying dozens of marijuana-related cases via examination of the Supreme Court database. He tabulated these and demonstrated that Schapelle Corby's sentence far exceeded that of all Indonesians, not only convicted for similar amounts, but many times greater. Her sentence was at least 4x higher per kilogram of marijuana than that imposed on any Indonesian. All this information was sent to the Australian government. It was ignored.

THE UNREPORTED SCANDAL - EXAMPLE 5.
Justice and Customs Minister, Christopher Ellison, in fact, was also at the heart of an entire series of disturbing events, all of which were extremely damaging to Schapelle Corby and her family. The three examples below were selected from many:

1) The PowderGate affair unfolded on 1st June 2005, directly after the verdict and the unprecedented 20-year sentence. In a nutshell, flour was sent to the Indonesian embassy in Sydney with a note written in Bahasa which bore no reference at all to Schapelle Corby. Immediately, the government accused supporters of Schapelle Corby of a “murderous attack”, instantly dampening public anger and support for her. However, at 6:35pm on the same day, the AFP’s national manager of intelligence sent an email to Ellison. This was marked URGENT. It was very clear. It explained in simple terms that the substance was only gram bacilli, a commonly occurring bacteria. What did Ellison do, armed with the information that this was merely one of many white-powder hoaxes, which occurred in Australia each month? Nothing. The false story was allowed to roll around the world, and syndication continued across Australia for days.

2) After the original trial, two Australian QC’s were pressed upon the Corby family by the government, in time for the appeal. Whilst it was difficult to understand how two non-Indonesian speaking lawyers could actually provide practical assistance, government ministers were forceful, with the media repeatedly citing it as significant “help”, pressuring the family further. In the middle of the appeal, one of them, Mark Trowell, fatally undermined her prospects when he made a series of unsubstantiated allegations against her defence team, accusing them of seeking funds for bribes. He offered no evidence whatsoever, even though he and the Australian government must have been well aware that this was, in fact, the modus operandi in that nation. Mark Trowell, on oath, later stated that he was working for the Australian government all along. He was a Liberal Party member, and long term friend and colleague of, Justice and Customs Minister Ellison.

3) Schapelle Corby needed every cent of revenue from her book, “My Story”. This was intended to pay for medication, food, and for an extra-ordinary legal appeal. On 8th November 2006, the AFP began a large-scale investigation and extensive surveillance operation, reporting to the Minister of Justice and Customs, Ellison. The outcome was a politically driven ‘proceeds of crime’ case, which many consider to have subverted the judiciary itself. It was held in secret, with Schapelle Corby having no representation whatsoever. Indeed, she wasn’t even aware of it, nor was any other Corby family member. It also extended Australian legal reach beyond Australian borders. The money was duly seized. Even worse, this occurred whilst Schapelle Corby was still in legal-process in Indonesia. The signal to Jakarta, that she was considered, by Canberra, to have committed a crime, could hardly have been mistaken. Schapelle Corby remains the only person in Australian history to have had book revenue seized under ‘proceeds of crime’ legislation.

These are real examples of major news stories, of enormous public interest and implication. Yet, they represent just a handful of examples from many, most of which are fully documented on The Expendable Project’s website: www.expendable.tv

The Australian mainstream media, however, has never reported any of this nor is any of the documentation proving her innocence ever mentioned.

Until Schapelle's mother wore a t-shit, on the day of Schapelle's release, with The Expendable Project website address printed across the front, the media had not even acknowledged its existence. Following this incident, Fairfax Media in particular, launched an entire series of articles abusing the website and those they linked to it, without, of course, ever explaining what it actually held.

The rest of the coverage, generally, has comprised crude smears against family members, ridiculous but damaging stories invented from nothing, a vicious campaign to press the government to seize her only form of revenue for medication, and worst of all, two attempts to have her thrown back into prison by presenting bogus breaches of parole conditions to the Indonesian authorities.

On television, Nine Network has even broadcast, twice, a terrible production which places proven lies into Schapelle Corby's mouth, by using her dead father... in Australia, dead men can't sue.

This is a campaign of smear and vilification like no other.

The facts, documented by the government itself, in its own cables and correspondence, are totally censored. Replacing them are baseless smears, prejudice, and fabrication, and a neveriending stream of articles and broadcasts designed to poison public perception, and influence events on the ground against her.

On the surface, this may sound like an absurd suggestion. But if that surface is scratched, if the facts are established and considered, the situation is undeniable.

Australians are not being served by the mainstream media, but instead, are being controlled by it. Public opinion is being formed via a diet of self-serving news management, extreme censorship, and ruthless smearing propaganda.

It is Australia, in 2014, and an innocent human being continues to be tormented.

SOURCE:
www.expendable.tv

[Drew]

Quite the read.

If even half of it's true, it paints a very grim picture.

What would the motivation be for the Australian government, to be such cunts?

Thousands of Australians go to Bali every year. It's a large part of the economy over there. But I can't see a gain for Oz either way in this case.

[Shaun Harris]

Quite the read.

If even half of it's true, it paints a very grim picture.

What would the motivation be for the Australian government, to be such cunts?

Thousands of Australians go to Bali every year. It's a large part of the economy over there. But I can't see a gain for Oz either way in this case.










I'm buggered if I know man, but all you just read is documented obviously and quite dam scarry to read actually. Could it be a case of throwing some one into the slaughter house to try and scare of other traffickers? I Know that is really clutching at straws.

Also on the day she dept OZ, there was some king of opperation going down in the airport she dept from, Could it be a case of people in the customs dept being drug IMPORTERS and had to get rid of the product asap to not blow there cover in there of what was going down? as they would have been fully aware of the programme going on in there airport on that day!

I am now thinking it was not a case of she personally being set up, just wrong place at the wrong time, and the fact that the family name had a reputation made it look even better when the product was found, and stopped the Australian government and police and customs researching it all 100% proffessionaly.

How could the OZ government possibly say, " O shit, it turns out our customs or airport management team were actually using there position to import drugs.




Again, why the F---- would ya take POT to Bali, and I do not accept some of the replies on here, ie, too supply other forigners, there is just not enough money in that to risk your life in that country, and she has a reasnable brain.













Where is Kim Dot Con when ya need his skills

[Bikemad]

so you woke up with a stiffy this morning eh Shaun.......bit more light reading for ya
http://www.theage.com.au/national/convicted-drug-dealer-tells-of-corby-smuggling-racket-20080712-3e6h.html

[Shaun Harris]

so you woke up with a stiffy this morning eh Shaun.......bit more light reading for ya
http://www.theage.com.au/national/convicted-drug-dealer-tells-of-corby-smuggling-racket-20080712-3e6h.html





being healthy, I do every day, now I will read your link--------


Strated to read it but but but, a convicted drug trafficer says what to who when and why?????


Get off the grass sport





Had to go back and finish reading it, this is the best bit of it



" I had to speak up, as I wanted to sleep better at night" Fukin soft cock, he meant to say




"I had to speak up as I am now a PAID NARK!!!!!!!!!

[Bikemad]

:facepalm:i think you missed the point mate which was there is definetly a market amongst the hordes of aussies ,kiwis and other travellers and expats for the product that ya girl was caught with.........just to answer your question of why would you take pot to bali...........as you were......oh...and please wash ya hands before replying:msn-wink:

[Shaun Harris]

:facepalm:i think you missed the point mate which was there is definetly a market amongst the hordes of aussies ,kiwis and other travellers and expats for the product that ya girl was caught with.........just to answer your question of why would you take pot to bali...........as you were......oh...and please wash ya hands before replying:msn-wink:





washed em! and point taken but


So a pound costs say $3500.00 x that by say 4 as said by the nark = $14.000 K x 4 = $56.0000




Who the hech would risk death for that pittance dude, sorry man, your post details have come from a convicted drug trafficer who I am confident is now a nark.

[Mike.Gayner]

Who the hech would risk death for that pittance dude, sorry man, your post details have come from a convicted drug trafficer who I am confident is now a nark.

I'm not taking a side in this ridiculous debate, but your logic is pretty weak there. People have risked death for A LOT less than that.

[Shaun Harris]

I'm not taking a side in this ridiculous debate, but your logic is pretty weak there. People have risked death for A LOT less than that.



move on then, ya do not have to reply

[Bikemad]

she had 9+ pounds on her .............by my reckoning thats an $80,000 payout even if you only double the "going rate" say 250 /Oz to $500...........80 grand would go a long way in Bali
a bit more reading for ya
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/mercedes-corby-drug-dealer/story-e6frewmr-1111116212772
remember mercedes already lived in Bali at the time.........maybe this is why she is so vocal and over the top when talking of schapelle..........guilt...just sayin

[Shaun Harris]

she had 9+ pounds on her .............by my reckoning thats an $80,000 payout even if you only double the "going rate" say 250 /Oz to $500...........80 grand would go a long way in Bali
a bit more reading for ya
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/mercedes-corby-drug-dealer/story-e6frewmr-1111116212772
remember mercedes already lived in Bali at the time.........maybe this is why she is so vocal and over the top when talking of schapelle..........guilt...just sayin




I see where you are coming from with these links but

It is kind of like saying I AM A DRUG dealer as I know known marujuana dealers that have been convicted


My comment above is actually quite serious and funny, as I have proof ofa man telling a motorcycle manufacturer rep here years ago that I WAS a Drug dealer hahahahaha, ( And his wife told a friend in the office the same thing) funny how things can be over heard in an open office lay out plan. One day it will come back on him. Test me any day any time 24/7 I said, and signed the contract!

[Bikemad]

does anyone know if schapelle has ever or offered to do a Lie Detector test...........i know they may not be reliable but surely if she was innocent she would be keen to try and prove that any way possible

[Shaun Harris]

does anyone know if schapelle has ever or offered to do a Lie Detector test...........i know they may not be reliable but surely if she was innocent she would be keen to try and prove that any way possible



I would extremelly keen to get a factual awnser to that also Bikemad, if she was offered one and turned it down, GUILTY! as far as I am concerned. If she did one now and it showed innocense though, she would get her ass dragged back into prison based on what her parole officer has said about disturbing the bali commnuity

[Shaun Harris]

I am searching Bikemad, but this was my first reply to the question to the general public





'' Lie detectors are known to be rubbish. Many states in American now do not recognise the results of them."

[Bikemad]

I am searching Bikemad, but this was my first reply to the question to the general public





'' Lie detectors are known to be rubbish. Many states in American now do not recognise the results of them."

yeah i get that but........if i were in her situation and innocent i would wanna try every avenue to convince others of that.......just curious to know if it was offered or if her defence team have asked or not

[Shaun Harris]

yeah i get that but........if i were in her situation and innocent i would wanna try every avenue to convince others of that.......just curious to know if it was offered or if her defence team have asked or not






I am very curious to see if it was offered also, I hate innocent people getting screwed for anything.

[riffer]

I think Shakespeare summed it up well when he wrote "I think the lady doth protest too much".

Shappelle Corby would do well to keep her head down, keep her mouth shut and try to rebuild her life, putting everything behind her. I don't think playing the crazy card helped her case.

[Shaun Harris]

I think Shakespeare summed it up well when he wrote "I think the lady doth protest too much".

Shappelle Corby would do well to keep her head down, keep her mouth shut and try to rebuild her life, putting everything behind her. I don't think playing the crazy card helped her case.



I agree re keeping her head down.


But desperate people do desperate things mate

[riffer]

I agree re keeping her head down.


But desperate people do desperate things mate


Indeed. Not a good look in a muslim country though. When in Rome...

[Shaun Harris]

Indeed. Not a good look in a muslim country though. When in Rome...




true mate, she cannot say or do jack shit without getting thrown back inside again

[Banditbandit]

I am very curious to see if it was offered also, I hate innocent people getting screwed for anything.

Lie detector tests are so unreliable - that is why they are not used in NZ or Oz courts . or British ones ... and are being dropped in some US states ...

Lie detector tests would not be on the radar of most people who live in Ozstralasia ... and if you asked a NZ cop if you could take one to prove your innocence s/he would probably laugh at you ..

[oldrider]

I hate innocent people getting screwed for anything.

Apparently that only happens in New Zealand. :mellow:

[felixx]

its a way to do a FREE 10yr immersive course in indonesian language, culture, islam and the opprotunity to write a book when it is all over.

Just like Tim Shadbolt is offering you a free wife and education if you study in southland

Just ask Chapell Corby

[husaberg]

its a way to do a FREE 10yr immersive course in indonesian language, culture, islam and the opprotunity to write a book when it is all over.

Just like Tim Shadbolt is offering you a free wife and education if you study in southland

Just ask Chapell Corby

From a guys point of View getting locked up in a all women's Indonesian prison doesn't seem soooooooooooo bad
I guess if you were a straight girl it might not be so appealing after all.......... bugger reality.:msn-wink: