20/20 Last night.

[Lou Girardin]

Who saw the story on the gang of 13/14 yr olds in ChCh?
My God, how times have changed, gangs used to be called Black Power, Mongrel Mob etc. Now we have the Boys from Shirley.
That's got to be the gayest gang name ever.

[spudchucka]

Saw it. I couldn't believe the mother that refused to take any responsibility for her sons deviance. She said she was not a violent person but also said that the kids all needed a proper hiding, (probably do but thats not the point) and that she would shoot her own children if the became patched gang members. She obviously doesn't realise that kids learn what they live. Another woman that was an ex mongrel mob tart and was now some sort of community worker made the comment that it all starts in the home. I guess her life experiences have brought her to that conclusion. Its a shame that people can't see the importance of stable family life for children until they have hit rock bottom themselves.

[Lou Girardin]

She was a charmer alright. No surprises that her kid is a mouth-breathing waste of DNA.
And why do so many of life's failures want to be social workers?

[Beemer]

She was a charmer alright. No surprises that her kid is a mouth-breathing waste of DNA.
And why do so many of life's failures want to be social workers?

Because then they can help other no-hopers beat the system by claiming it's all down to their background. :violin:

I missed the show, but the Boys from Shirley? Sounds more like the Nancy Boys to me! :rofl:

[Groins_NZ]

Saw it. Pretty sad. Those kids need to get involved in something constructive/interesting for them - maybe motorcycling!?

What they're doing now is a waste of a good life. Anyway, I guess it's far more complicated than that.

[ManDownUnder]

Saw it. Pretty sad. Those kids need to get involved in something constructive/interesting for them - maybe motorcycling!?

What they're doing now is a waste of a good life. Anyway, I guess it's far more complicated than that.

A bloody good idea actually...

Give them some meaning, company, pride and direction in their lives. A motorcycle isn't the be all and end all, but it's a good reason to meet other people, and those people are usually constructive.

Take 'em to spend a night in the cells, and go see the morgue - see where they'll end up. Give them a few warning signs they can expect to see (i.e. drugs, needles, seeling dope - whatever - I know little about the specifics here) but set that in their mind so when they DO see it something in them kinda clicks - "hey that dude mentioned this way back when - and it's on the way to oblivion..."

Hopefully "cool" isn't the next thought...

I'd love to see a couple of rich, good living people take a couple of these kids aside and show them what life actually does have to offer...

A bit of hard work now and they'll be set for life... coz as it stands, the "Boys from Shirley" title will be the least of their concerns... (more likely to be "Bubba from cell 23")

MDU

[Lou Girardin]

Maybe MDU, but they seemed far more taken by faux 'gangsta's' in c-rap vids.
Perhaps, in some future time, science will be able to implant another brain cell to give these kids a chance.

[ManDownUnder]

Maybe MDU, but they seemed far more taken by faux 'gangsta's' in c-rap vids.
Perhaps, in some future time, science will be able to implant another brain cell to give these kids a chance.

Bloody good point re the vids... don't underestiate the power of popular culture (as twisted and demented as it is...)

Like ScumDog said though - good parenting has to help a lot...

[Brian d marge]

Saw it. Pretty sad. Those kids need to get involved in something constructive/interesting for them - maybe motorcycling!?

What they're doing now is a waste of a good life. Anyway, I guess it's far more complicated than that.


MX Crusty demons of Dirt ,,,thats pretty cool ...and there AINT NO WAY ,,,you can be unhealthy/unfit and ride a full on MX bike .....

Stephen

[yungatart]

The whole thing was pretty tragic really, unfortunately that is just how life is for so many kids today. Me, I am just grateful that my 14 yo has dreams, goals and some direction in life- far too busy to do that shit!

[ajturbo]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


this post just reminded me of a funny suitation i found myself in years ago....

i was at a poly in CHCH .. and i had a friend the my wife and i BOTH new VERY well!! ... ok this guy lived with his mum.... you guessed it.. in shierly.. he had written his ph and address.... on the last line of the address he just wrote
the word "sheirly"....
well my wife found this pice of paper.. i was working away ... and she ph's the boss up ... and NOT very nicely asked to speak to me.. the boss was pissing himself as he knew i was in the shit big time...
well she askeds me who the hell was .."sheirly"?.. and of cause i had NO idea what the hell she was going on about.....and so i told her that ... she didn't belive me... here i was 4 hrs away from home. new wife... she upset thinking i was rooting some-one.....till i suddenly asked her if there was a ph number on it... yes she said... well ring them i said and hung up... she was back on the ph to me about 15 minutes latter...... ummmmmmm sorry she said it was our mates mum that answered!!.. i spat the dummy back ... but we did laugh about it when i finaly got home.....:rofl:

[spudchucka]

She was a charmer alright. No surprises that her kid is a mouth-breathing waste of DNA.
And why do so many of life's failures want to be social workers?
Same reason so many head cases want to be psychologists?

[Lou Girardin]

Same reason so many head cases want to be psychologists?

What was the reason you wanted to be a cop again?
(Couldn't resist)

[spudchucka]

What was the reason you wanted to be a cop again?
(Couldn't resist)
Why did you join the MOT? Was it so you could go fast on motorbikes? Its an analogy that could be implied to any profession, some just seem a hell of a lot more appropriate than others.

[Lou Girardin]

Why did you join the MOT? Was it so you could go fast on motorbikes? Its an analogy that could be implied to any profession, some just seem a hell of a lot more appropriate than others.

Nice come back.
That was a good part of it though. That and making our roads a safer place for me and my mates to use our immunity.

[Motu]

Same reason so many head cases want to be psychologists?

My sister in law to a ''T'' - half the loonies on ''The Farm'' became phycologists...didn't help her to know why she is a nutter,her life has just gone down the tubes....again....

You need an ambition in life to get somewhere - my brother in law had ambition....he wanted to be an alcoholic when he grew up....at 14 he was in the Knox Home for alcoholics.He's 49 now and has been a burden on the State his whole life,a life of ''incidents'' you couldn't fit into all the paper in an economy pack of toilet paper.

[Hitcher]

She was a charmer alright. No surprises that her kid is a mouth-breathing waste of DNA.
Was he called Sasha?

[scumdog]

Who saw the story on the gang of 13/14 yr olds in ChCh?
My God, how times have changed, gangs used to be called Black Power, Mongrel Mob etc. Now we have the Boys from Shirley.
That's got to be the gayest gang name ever.

What a sorry arsed bunch of losers these kids were, if they could only see themselves as we see them.

I feel almost sorry for them, they have (at present) no future but the worrying thing is that they could breed - and they are also too short sighted to see what a bunch of wankers they look to the general public..

Though they all could be faggots as I didn't see too many sheilas in the 'gangs' (probably got more brains than this bunch of slack-jawed mouth breathing improvident lack-witted oxygen theives).

And out taxes are paying for their loser lifestyle! Sheesh!!

[skidz]

She was a charmer alright. No surprises that her kid is a mouth-breathing waste of DNA.
And why do so many of life's failures want to be social workers?You are right on the button there Lou!

[Sniper]

So does that mean I cannot go around there on my "sports bike" any more?

[Lou Girardin]

You are right on the button there Lou!

Is it a version of Stockholm Syndrome?

[Pathos]

I was in a Catholic school 96-03. Even there was a gang like culture amoung many maori students. There was an unspoken rule not to be friends with pakeha unless they kissed ur ass. They would go around doing shit just to piss people off trying to prove they were the shit. I believe a few were involved with actual gangs cause they had nothing better to do with their lives.

Some of them I wouldn't be surprised if it was because of bad parenting but the rest was peer pressure.

I greatly dislike the 'bilingual' class idea, a special class for those who want to learn subjects in English and Maori. Sure they learnt how to speak maori better which is perfectly fine but they had little interaction with white students which made the division between the groups worse.

Too many of my generation were never taught how respect others unless they rapped or killed people. And I do a majority of the blame on the parenting of the previous generation (not all :) ), eg letting 5yr olds play GTA3 instead of socialising properly.

[Lou Girardin]

On the subject of brain dead filth, the two cat killers in Huntly got 9 months.

[SpeedyGirl]

Its a pain in the butt living in ChCh, having a 15 year old, very impressionable niece living with you, who for some strange reason likes these dropkicks :oi-grr: ..... I have taken her in to show her the 'other' side of life and hopefully can bring her around (if its not too late) :nono: Certainly do not want them anywhere near my niece or my house..... it is certainly a parenting thing tho, what they grow up in (no hope) they think is normal, no self worth

[Lou Girardin]

Just to add to the general feeling of disgust and loathing, some scumbag killed a cat belonging to the cop who arrested the Huntly Heroes.
I really hope they die lingering painful deaths.

[Hitcher]

Its a pain in the butt living in ChCh, having a 15 year old, very impressionable niece living with you, who for some strange reason likes these dropkicks... I have taken her in to show her the 'other' side of life and hopefully can bring her around (if its not too late). Certainly do not want them anywhere near my niece or my house..... it is certainly a parenting thing tho, what they grow up in (no hope) they think is normal, no self worth
"Dropkicks" they may be. But they don't go to school or work, have no responsibilities, procure enough folding to acquire smokes and kai (and probably booze and other elicit), hang around being "cool" and tormenting The Man. To some, this is an enviable lifestyle.

[idb]

Sure, they looked ridiculous but the whole thing smelled like a bit of a beat-up to me.
The ones that they interviewed actually seemed quite intelligent and most said that they weren't interested in the real gangs and were just hanging out and having fun while they were young.

It seemed to me that a lot of them were just looking for a bit of a steer, something that they weren't getting from home.
I dunno, I wasn't left too despondent after the programme.

God, aren't you supposed to get grouchier and vote NZ First as you get older, wha..wha..what's happening to me...I feel....woozy....

[Pixie]

Saw it. Pretty sad. Those kids need to get involved in something constructive/interesting for them - maybe motorcycling!?

What they're doing now is a waste of a good life. Anyway, I guess it's far more complicated than that.
Yeah,get them bikes and the'll start wearing jackets with "Hell's Angles" on the back.
(no I didn't spell it wrong)