Trade Me gripe

[drift77nz]

Hello all,

Just a bit of a rant about TM. I have been looking for a Road bike for myself for a while now, and have noticed this happening quite a bit. Bikes I have bid on or bikes I have been watching, with reserve met, have been withdrawn by the seller, then re-advertised. Sometimes at a higher price. Has anyone else struck this?

[oneblackflag]

Hello all,

Just a bit of a rant about TM. I have been looking for a Road bike for myself for a while now, and have noticed this happening quite a bit. Bikes I have bid on or bikes I have been watching, with reserve met, have been withdrawn by the seller, then re-advertised. Sometimes at a higher price. Has anyone else struck this?

Report to Trademe...

[drift77nz]

Report to Trademe...

It doesn't seem right, eh. Will chuck TM a message regarding the recent one. Pissed me off as I was quite keen, but if the seller is going to pull this sort of stuff, can they be trusted?

First Listing,

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=696017309

New Listing,

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=696938905

[oneblackflag]

It doesn't seem right, eh. Will chuck TM a message regarding the recent one. Pissed me off as I was quite keen, but if the seller is going to pull this sort of stuff, can they be trusted?

First Listing,

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=696017309

New Listing,

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=696938905

Will be interseting to see what TM say since he reckons they told him to do it, sounds like bullshit to me, against site rules as far as I knew.

[jellywrestler]

It doesn't seem right, eh. Will chuck TM a message regarding the recent one. Pissed me off as I was quite keen, but if the seller is going to pull this sort of stuff, can they be trusted?

First Listing,

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=696017309

New Listing,

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=696938905

it's simple, the guys listing a ducati for sale in the one ad, dob him into trademe for trying to avoid fees....

[pritch]

The reserve was met on the first auction? I guess his logic is that if the sale was that easy, he should have asked for more.

Not on TM, but there is a rare bike locally that was for sale at a fairly high price. When a punter fronted who was keen to buy, the seller withdrew, I believe due to a thought process similar to that noted above.

I'm sure we'd be interested to hear what TM's response is.

[R650R]

Prob had a timewaster not come through with money.
I pulled an auction once as goods advertised elsewhere and someone made a good offer.
No big deal just follow the menus and tell TM legit reason for pulling auction and no drama.
Another item I had didn't sell once and I had losers offering too low for it and asking dumb questions, and about ten watchers who didn't take offer at end of first auction. So when it got around to third auction and same losers still watching and not bidding I did a fixed price offer above the reserve price just to stick it to the buggers, no one accepted the offer LOL.

[AllanB]

Easy if you think about it.

Set your self up a TM account at home and a different one at work.

Advertise your bike with a low reserve knowing darn well you will not let it go for that but hope the interest starts a bidding frenzy. If it is not selling at the value you want use your 'work' TM address to bid so you win the auction.

Wait a week and relist the bike saying the buyer pulled out do to personal reasons that you have reluctantly accepted and start again.

Against the rules and a CHCH car dealer was done for doing the above a year or so back - bidding against his own auctions to raise the value! They are still trading .....

Linky here: http://www.comcom.govt.nz/the-commission/media-centre/media-releases/detail/2011/christchurch-car-company-pleads-guilty-to-fair-trading-act-breaches

[drift77nz]

If the reserve is met, the listing shouldn't be able to be removed.

[Katman]

If the reserve is met, the listing shouldn't be able to be removed.

And if Trademe were at all interested in the integrity of the auction process it would be piss easy for them to do exactly that.

Unfortunately, all they're interested in is their fees.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And if Trademe were at all interested in the integrity of the auction process it would be piss easy for them to do exactly that.

Unfortunately, all they're interested in is their fees.

Couldn't agree more. They're out of fucking control with their fees now.

[drift77nz]

Prob had a timewaster not come through with money.
I pulled an auction once as goods advertised elsewhere and someone made a good offer.
No big deal just follow the menus and tell TM legit reason for pulling auction and no drama.
Another item I had didn't sell once and I had losers offering too low for it and asking dumb questions, and about ten watchers who didn't take offer at end of first auction. So when it got around to third auction and same losers still watching and not bidding I did a fixed price offer above the reserve price just to stick it to the buggers, no one accepted the offer LOL.

He had just under a week to run on this particular listing. Reserve was met. Good way to annoy buyers and get a bad rep.:angry:

[Mike.Gayner]

Another item I had didn't sell once and I had losers offering too low for it and asking dumb questions, and about ten watchers who didn't take offer at end of first auction. So when it got around to third auction and same losers still watching and not bidding I did a fixed price offer above the reserve price just to stick it to the buggers, no one accepted the offer LOL.

Uh, you really showed them...I guess....

[drift77nz]

Trade me's stance on this is this. Seeing as He was a new member and he apparently made a mistake putting it on at $2500 with no reserve. That is why they let him withdraw it and then relist it at a higher price. They also gave him a warning about advertising the other bike in the same auction.