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Mental Trousers
17th February 2014, 22:19
Paeroa's street races are a blast. It's such a fun event because of the great atmosphere, the weather is always good, the local businesses and residents get right behind it and we get to do stupid speeds down the main street without losing our licences. It's the only event that I want to do every year if possible and the only event where I don't care where I finish as long as I finish. My first time was in 2011 on the old Triumph. In my first ever street race I had some technical problems and got off the start line 10 seconds after everyone else because the bike wouldn't go into first gear so I finished dead last. In 2012 the Triumph threw a rod in the second practice when it missed fifth gear and over-revved into oblivion. 2013 I had 3 weddings on the same day as Paeroa, so 2014 is the first year I've had a proper go at Paeroa.
The weekend before I'd done the BRM Pacific club round at Taupo with the bike set up for Paeroa. The days between the two were very busy so there wouldn't be any time for me to alter the geometry to suit the streets as I don't have a steering damper, so at Taupo I ....
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p.dath
18th February 2014, 15:29
Will this be with your 4 cylinder modified to 3 cylinder bike?
Mental Trousers
18th February 2014, 15:34
Will this be with your 4 cylinder modified to 3 cylinder bike?
Yep that's the one
Akzle
18th February 2014, 16:50
fuken missed it. Yeah its a fkn good day out.
Yamahardman
18th February 2014, 16:58
i really enjoyed it! was great!
I got pretty jolly seeing the h2 kawasaki screaming along, sadly it wasn't as fast as the rest of the field, but it sure sounded nice!
Also those super motorrad races, just wow, so cool. I wonder if you can race a 2t motorrad in that class?
Anyway, twas awesome.
sharky
18th February 2014, 17:12
Fuckin sidecars up to their usual tricks - haha. At least it wasn't a post classic...
leathel
18th February 2014, 20:36
It was a great day and some mad racing! Those classic side cars are as nuts as the motards :P
swarfie
18th February 2014, 21:19
Fuckin sidecars up to their usual tricks - haha. At least it wasn't a post classic...
The problem was caused by an ACCIDENT (sidecar got punted in the side of the fairing in front of the side wheel which caused the oil cooler to get damaged) and MUST be stressed that this could have happened to any class of machine...comments like yours DON'T help thanks :shutup: The crew concerned feel bad enough as it is!
sharky
19th February 2014, 07:38
The problem was caused by an ACCIDENT (sidecar got punted in the side of the fairing in front of the side wheel which caused the oil cooler to get damaged) and MUST be stressed that this could have happened to any class of machine...comments like yours DON'T help thanks :shutup: The crew concerned feel bad enough as it is!
Just fishing..........:bleh:
jellywrestler
19th February 2014, 08:57
Just fisting..........:bleh:
fixed it for ya...
Paeroa re going to struggle to get competitors next year after their decision to pocket the prizemoney for round two rather than pay out double for round one....
a few people not happy about that i hear.
Shaun Harris
19th February 2014, 09:03
fixed it for ya...
Paeroa re going to struggle to get competitors next year after their decision to pocket the prizemoney for round two rather than pay out double for round one....
a few people not happy about that i hear.
who ever made that decision needs there arse kicked big time. It is the riders that are the show that bring the income to the community. Paeroa racing will be finished for ever very soon. Club racing does not belong on the streets
Mental Trousers
19th February 2014, 09:16
I guess there are people who turn up and ride for the prize money. But I'm pretty sure the majority of people are there cause it's a great day. Hell of a buzz racing in front of crowds that are so close, pit lane always has a great atmosphere with the crowds mixing amongst the riders and bikes etc. Best show I go to all year.
JayRacer37
19th February 2014, 12:34
Paeroa re going to struggle to get competitors next year after their decision to pocket the prizemoney for round two rather than pay out double for round one....
a few people not happy about that i hear.
Many people not happy.
I guess there are people who turn up and ride for the prize money. But I'm pretty sure the majority of people are there cause it's a great day. Hell of a buzz racing in front of crowds that are so close, pit lane always has a great atmosphere with the crowds mixing amongst the riders and bikes etc. Best show I go to all year.
*UPDATE*
I have just been advised by one of the organisers from the day that a further decision is pending on either prize money or a partial entry refund. This has to go though a committee process so is not instantaneous, but they are certainly considering the outcome being different from what it is now.
Yes, there are - I am one of them.
I entered Paeroa with a reasonable expectation of some good prize money, which was going to cover bills incurred to be there and race. I paid my entry fee(s) to be eligible for this potential earning, and having that potential firstly taken away, and secondly pocketed by the organising body feels pretty raw right at the moment.
As Shaun said, the riders are the show. To shaft them, when there were no additional costs to the organisers so it is purely more profit for them, doesn't bode well for people deciding to come back. Also, no issues to pay double for the first race, everyone had one...It was and is a great meeting, but this put a really sour turn on it for me (and many others).
Maybe following though on those thoughts, they could pay half the entry back to everyone, as only half the earning potential was available...Bet they would love to do that!
Banditbandit
19th February 2014, 13:08
Yeah - great day ... unfortunately it was cut short .. but hey, I'll be back next year ..
swarfie
19th February 2014, 13:22
Many people not happy.
Yes, there are - I am one of them.
I entered Paeroa with a reasonable expectation of some good prize money, which was going to cover bills incurred to be there and race. I paid my entry fee(s) to be eligible for this potential earning, and having that potential firstly taken away, and secondly pocketed by the organising body feels pretty raw right at the moment.
As Shaun said, the riders are the show. To shaft them, when there were no additional costs to the organisers so it is purely more profit for them, doesn't bode well for people deciding to come back. Also, no issues to pay double for the first race, everyone had one...It was and is a great meeting, but this put a really sour turn on it for me (and many others).
Maybe following though on those thoughts, they could pay half the entry back to everyone, as only half the earning potential was available...Bet they would love to do that!
A few years ago when Alan Satherley got killed in a sidecar race at Paeroa the sidecar fraternity all agreed to pay the prize money to his family...Paeroa Promotions Trust wouldn't even pass on the money. They said maybe the next year we could have reduced entry fees instead and that never happened either. They've done it again and as far as us sidecar competitors are concerned that SUCKS. :brick::brick: :brick:
JayRacer37
19th February 2014, 13:54
*UPDATE*
I have just been advised by one of the organisers from the day that a further decision is pending on either prize money or a partial entry refund. This has to go though a committee process so is not instantaneous, but they are certainly considering the outcome being different from what it is now.
JayRacer37
19th February 2014, 13:58
A few years ago when Alan Satherley got killed in a sidecar race at Paeroa the sidecar fraternity all agreed to pay the prize money to his family...Paeroa Promotions Trust wouldn't even pass on the money. They said maybe the next year we could have reduced entry fees instead and that never happened either. They've done it again and as far as us sidecar competitors are concerned that SUCKS. :brick::brick: :brick:
Hmm...That is not my understanding of the events that year, are you certain RE: outstanding prize money to the family? That situation was certainly very different to this years one.
Mental Trousers
19th February 2014, 13:59
*UPDATE*
I have just been advised by one of the organisers from the day that a further decision is pending on either prize money or a partial entry refund. This has to go though a committee process so is not instantaneous, but they are certainly considering the outcome being different from what it is now.
That's good to hear. Thanks for that.
swarfie
19th February 2014, 14:35
Hmm...That is not my understanding of the events that year, are you certain RE: outstanding prize money to the family? That situation was certainly very different to this years one.
Yes it was a different set of circumstances and some one else may be able to confirm but I am 99.9% certain the family never received a cent. I stood up and delivered a eulogy at Alans funeral and I was pretty cut up about it on the day.
I must be getting old/alziemers...All the sidecar guys including me donated OUR winnings from the first race to the Satherley family. Still doesn't change the rank attitude by Paeroa PromotionsTrust though )-:
nodrog
19th February 2014, 16:17
*UPDATE*
I have just been advised by one of the organisers from the day that a further decision is pending on either prize money or a partial entry refund. This has to go though a committee process so is not instantaneous, but they are certainly considering the outcome being different from what it is now.
Sweet, Daddy needs new shoes....
Bikemad
19th February 2014, 17:27
was it just me or did anyone else think competitor numbers were down a bit this year........i seem to remember more ezy-ups and stuff in the pits years past.......i also noticed some geezers walking round with "banned from racing at Paeroa" T shirts on......can anyone shed any light on this? or is it a piss take
nodrog
19th February 2014, 17:47
was it just me or did anyone else think competitor numbers were down a bit this year........i seem to remember more ezy-ups and stuff in the pits years past.......i also noticed some geezers walking round with "banned from racing at Paeroa" T shirts on......can anyone shed any light on this? or is it a piss take
One person not racing in this year's battle of the streets is last year's winner Patric Nussbaum and his Black Pearl Kawasaki ZX10. Patric is the first winner in the history of the Battle of The Streets to be given a life ban after celebrating his 2013 win with a wheel stand on the run to the line. His supporters are campaigning to have the decision overturned, seeking likes on the Patric Nussbaum Facebook page, saying the decision is harsh, unfair and completely unnecessary. His supporters have a tent at the end of the back straight on the embankment, and there are T-shirts. - See more at: http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/64522-superbikes-battle-streets.html#sthash.lREKTtqu.dpuf
Bikemad
19th February 2014, 18:26
fuck that is harsh............yeah i did wonder why he wasn't there but didn't make the connection..........i always looked forward to seeing and hearing his bike........work of art
merv
19th February 2014, 18:29
Yeah way to kill your sport dudes, what silly organisers.
BigAl
19th February 2014, 18:37
What's wrong with this country. Banning a rider because he wheelstands WTF ?
Any race meeting that has this type of attitude deserves to go down the gurgler IMO.
Madness
19th February 2014, 18:42
I wondered if the rider that did a burnout on the start/finish line during the closing parade ended up getting a banning as well :facepalm:
Mental Trousers
19th February 2014, 18:53
What's wrong with this country. Banning a rider because he wheelstands WTF ?
Any race meeting that has this type of attitude deserves to go down the gurgler IMO.
All race meetings have rules about doing wheelies. However, that's the first time I know of where they've handed out a life time ban.
Katman
19th February 2014, 18:56
Yeah way to kill your sport dudes, what silly organisers.
I was recently contacted by the organiser of the recent MV Augusta Classic race day at Taupo asking for sponsorship money for the individual races.
I asked him how much of the money would be going to the competitors as prize money.
I was told that none of it was going to the competitors. Apparently it's costs a fortune to host these meetings.
I politely told him to fuck off.
merv
19th February 2014, 18:58
All race meetings have rules about doing wheelies. However, that's the first time I know of where they've handed out a life time ban.
Why? The victory wheelie over the line was part and parcel of the sport for years?
Mental Trousers
19th February 2014, 19:06
Why? The victory wheelie over the line was part and parcel of the sport for years?
Why don't you ask the people that implemented the rule. No doubt it was something to do with safety.
nodrog
19th February 2014, 19:08
I was recently contacted by the organiser of the recent MV Augusta Classic race day at Taupo asking for sponsorship money for the individual races.
I asked him how much of the money would be going to the competitors as prize money.
I was told that none of it was going to the competitors. Apparently it's costs a fortune to host these meetings.
I politely told him to fuck off.
Was that Robert Cockran?
Katman
19th February 2014, 19:15
Was that Robert Cockran?
Why - is he your boyfriend?
Ocean1
19th February 2014, 19:21
No doubt it was something to do with safety.
Meh. Micromanaging misiscule risks associated with the massive primary risk of racing motorbikes in the first place is pretty silly innit?
Like all of the rest of our silly engineered safety culture.
nodrog
19th February 2014, 19:24
Why - is he your boyfriend?
He wishes..
Drew
19th February 2014, 19:33
Meh. Micromanaging misiscule risks associated with the massive primary risk of racing motorbikes in the first place is pretty silly innit?
Like all of the rest of our silly engineered safety culture.
Interesting take on it.
I think it's a fair enough to impose harsh penalties. Bet a lot of people would be singing a different tune if Choppa had died the year he did a wheelie across the line at Wanganui, and his steering damper jammed up.
I did wheelies at the streets. But I'd accept penalties if they were handed out too.
merv
19th February 2014, 19:47
Interesting for sure Drew you sound all growed up now.
swarfie
19th February 2014, 19:53
Interesting for sure Drew you sound all growed up now.
Yep...so growed up he sounds like he's goin through menopause :killingme
busadayz
19th February 2014, 19:55
was it just me or did anyone else think competitor numbers were down a bit this year........i seem to remember more ezy-ups and stuff in the pits years past.......i also noticed some geezers walking round with "banned from racing at Paeroa" T shirts on......can anyone shed any light on this? or is it a piss take
Numbers were definitely down this year, I have a copy of last years programme/entry list.
I count approx 176 last year, this year 133. A substantial drop. Me and a mate tried to boost numbers by racing this year after watching for the last 20 years. I am sure there are many reasons why racers have not entered, politics of it all, costs, having to be there the day before to sign on, dangers???, other commitments etc etc.
Even though I came last in my race and had an encounter with a hay bale, I enjoyed the whole thing, being new to me I guess.
With regards to Patric being banned, maybe a bit harsh for life. He is certainly an entertainer. But imagine "IF" he did crash while pulling his wheelie while waving to the crowd and dropped oil everywhere or worse and the meeting got cancelled because of it, same issues as some of the good folk are having with prize money now. The riders would probably want his head on a stick. The organisers have their hands tied there.
Paeroa maybe on its way out with associated costs and declining entries, real shame.
Look forward to being there next year though.
Anyone know how many came through the gates?
Mom
19th February 2014, 20:03
No doubt it was something to do with safety.
Safety! Annoys the shit out of me that sort of thing at the street races. Honestly. You riders take your own risks racing. You enjoy it. It shows.
The organisers have marshalls and scrutineers to make sure all runs well.
Us spectators take our own risks attending. Something of a joke really expecting to be injured as a spectator.
I still have a hunk of Steven Briggs crankcase that came flying in to the people waiting to cross the track next time it opened. I stopped it with my leg :baby:
I did not attend Paeroa this year, but appreciate the angst of the ones that did.
The organisers of this event would be well insured for race day incidents.
The punters don't need to be refunded, but the competitors certainly need to be recompensed for the entry fees (or some of them) at the very least, to ensure they come back next year.
I have been attending Paeroa most years since it started, it cant NOT continue.
Ocean1
19th February 2014, 20:14
Interesting take on it.
I think it's a fair enough to impose harsh penalties. Bet a lot of people would be singing a different tune if Choppa had died the year he did a wheelie across the line at Wanganui, and his steering damper jammed up.
I did wheelies at the streets. But I'd accept penalties if they were handed out too.
Harsh penalties should be reserved for seriously endangering innocent bystanders, and I doubt anyone attending Paeroa or participating in the races really objects to a victory wheelie.
So who's behind the ban? Is it anyone the racers or the paying public give a fuck about?
I can see occasions where being a general dick should be discouraged, but let's keep things in perspective, compulsory donation of any winnings to charity orta cover it Shirley.
trustme
19th February 2014, 20:53
I was recently contacted by the organiser of the recent MV Augusta Classic race day at Taupo asking for sponsorship money for the individual races.
I asked him how much of the money would be going to the competitors as prize money.
I was told that none of it was going to the competitors. Apparently it's costs a fortune to host these meetings.
I politely told him to fuck off.
Who ripped your nightie ???
The meeting was run by the NZCMRR, they never pay prize money. I don't think any of the competitors want prize money, we just want the opportunity to race our old bikes & have a bit of fun. The Taupo meetings lose money , this year the club tried more promotion & sponsorship to raise the profile of the event & increase spectator numbers. If the classic guys wanted prize money we would simply exacerbate the shortfall, it would be self defeating.
This in no way means that I don't support prize money at other events.
skinman
19th February 2014, 21:23
banned for a wheely...WTF have the organisers not seen super bikes or moto GP. those guys often have the fronts up just for the hell of it
Gremlin
19th February 2014, 21:30
What's wrong with this country. Banning a rider because he wheelstands WTF ?
Any race meeting that has this type of attitude deserves to go down the gurgler IMO.
My view: There are wheelies and then there are wheelies. Some are harmless, and some are downright dangerous. Plenty are somewhere in the middle. Ultimately, if a racer can't select the right time and place and affects others, they can expect to be pulled up for it.
Stationary burnouts also fuck the surface of the track/road...
Katman
20th February 2014, 09:20
Who ripped your nightie ???
The meeting was run by the NZCMRR, they never pay prize money. I don't think any of the competitors want prize money, we just want the opportunity to race our old bikes & have a bit of fun. The Taupo meetings lose money , this year the club tried more promotion & sponsorship to raise the profile of the event & increase spectator numbers. If the classic guys wanted prize money we would simply exacerbate the shortfall, it would be self defeating.
This in no way means that I don't support prize money at other events.
The way I see it, if an event organiser is charging competitors to race at an event and they are charging the public to spectate at an event they should be offering some sort of reward to the competitors who are actually the ones taking the ultimate risk and who are the people that the public are coming to see.
I would hazard a guess that those competitors who say they don't want prize money are quite likely those who would have little chance of being in the running for any prize money anyway. (I'm happy to be corrected if that isn't the case).
It seems that a lot of race organisers are taking a lead from the very top of the sport with how the likes of Youthstream (MXGP) appear to see themselves as being greater than those that are actually doing the competing.
Edbear
20th February 2014, 12:04
One person not racing in this year's battle of the streets is last year's winner Patric Nussbaum and his Black Pearl Kawasaki ZX10. Patric is the first winner in the history of the Battle of The Streets to be given a life ban after celebrating his 2013 win with a wheel stand on the run to the line. His supporters are campaigning to have the decision overturned, seeking likes on the Patric Nussbaum Facebook page, saying the decision is harsh, unfair and completely unnecessary. His supporters have a tent at the end of the back straight on the embankment, and there are T-shirts. - See more at: http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/64522-superbikes-battle-streets.html#sthash.lREKTtqu.dpuf
fuck that is harsh............yeah i did wonder why he wasn't there but didn't make the connection..........i always looked forward to seeing and hearing his bike........work of art
Yeah way to kill your sport dudes, what silly organisers.
What's wrong with this country. Banning a rider because he wheelstands WTF ?
Any race meeting that has this type of attitude deserves to go down the gurgler IMO.
Harsh penalties should be reserved for seriously endangering innocent bystanders, and I doubt anyone attending Paeroa or participating in the races really objects to a victory wheelie.
So who's behind the ban? Is it anyone the racers or the paying public give a fuck about?
I can see occasions where being a general dick should be discouraged, but let's keep things in perspective, compulsory donation of any winnings to charity orta cover it Shirley.
Patric is a good guy and a genuine celebrity. He was intially disqualified for the wheelie but when he kicked up about it he was then banned. I was talking to him at Paeroa and he said that the event organiser asked him to register after MNZ had told him it wasn't them behind the ban, but was the event organisers!
Then at the last minute the organiser, (I'm not using names here), rang Patric and said that at an emergency meeting, he was told by MNZ that if they let Patric race, MNZ would not turn up. So it appears that MNZ are behind the ban after all.
Whatever the story, it sucks and Patric feels he's had the guts ripped out of him.
MIXONE
20th February 2014, 12:21
A life ban for doing a wheelie.What sort of PC bullshit is that?
SPman
20th February 2014, 12:44
A life ban for doing a wheelie.What sort of PC bullshit is that?The same sort of bullshit that always occurs when little authoritarians with big egos and a bullying personality, feel their "authority" is being threatened!
trustme
20th February 2014, 16:22
The way I see it, if an event organiser is charging competitors to race at an event and they are charging the public to spectate at an event they should be offering some sort of reward to the competitors who are actually the ones taking the ultimate risk and who are the people that the public are coming to see.
I would hazard a guess that those competitors who say they don't want prize money are quite likely those who would have little chance of being in the running for any prize money anyway. (I'm happy to be corrected if that isn't the case).
It seems that a lot of race organisers are taking a lead from the very top of the sport with how the likes of Youthstream (MXGP) appear to see themselves as being greater than those that are actually doing the competing.
I would be the first to admit that I am not at the pointy end of the field so prize money is irrelevant. I know a few who frequent the pointy end & never heard them moan about the lack of prize money
The way I see it the club organises these race meetings for the benefit of the members who wish to race their bikes. Ultimately the club is US, organising races for OUR benefit. The club attempts to do no more than break even, some meetings make a buck , some don't. If the club had to pay prize money the entry fees would rise , this would be of benefit to the few at the pointy end but the great unwashed would simply find the cost of competing would escalate & fewer would participate, [ entry numbers are already down & no, it is not due to a lack of prize money ]. Alternatively the club could pay prize money , go broke & we would all be losers.
nodrog
20th February 2014, 16:43
Patric is a good guy and a genuine celebrity. He was intially disqualified for the wheelie but when he kicked up about it he was then banned. I was talking to him at Paeroa and he said that the event organiser asked him to register after MNZ had told him it wasn't them behind the ban, but was the event organisers!
Then at the last minute the organiser, (I'm not using names here), rang Patric and said that at an emergency meeting, he was told by MNZ that if they let Patric race, MNZ would not turn up. So it appears that MNZ are behind the ban after all.
Whatever the story, it sucks and Patric feels he's had the guts ripped out of him.
While it is a shitty outcome for something quite entertaining and miniscule, I'm all for people getting the punishment everybody was told about at riders briefing.
Rules are rules no matter how dumb.
skinman
20th February 2014, 16:58
"Rules are rules no matter how dumb."
the council mantra
It is no excuse for asshole behaviour on the organisers (or any other organisations) part & never should be.
apply common sense FFS
Edbear
20th February 2014, 17:05
While it is a shitty outcome for something quite entertaining and miniscule, I'm all for people getting the punishment everybody was told about at riders briefing.
Rules are rules no matter how dumb.
If the riders were told at the briefing not to do it then it's fair that he was disqualified for flouting the rules despite his exuberance. However a life ban for arguing the point seems rather harsh.
Mental Trousers
20th February 2014, 18:19
While it is a shitty outcome for something quite entertaining and miniscule, I'm all for people getting the punishment everybody was told about at riders briefing.
Rules are rules no matter how dumb.
That's right. Everyone agrees to the MNZ Regs and Supplementary Regs and it's on the entry form as well
Wheel Standing. The organisers acknowledge that wheel standing is an accepted part of street racing. HOWEVER, THE STEWARDS WILL PUNISH OVERLY LONG OR SUSTAINED WHEEL STANDS, PARTICULARLY ON THE FRONT STRAIGHT.
It's there in plain English, it's even in caps to highlight it. So anyone who does pop a wheelie has already stated (by signing the form) they agree to abide by the rules and if they break those rules they acknowledge there will be some form of punishment.
If the riders were told at the briefing not to do it then it's fair that he was disqualified for flouting the rules despite his exuberance. However a life ban for arguing the point seems rather harsh.
I agree the life ban is very harsh. But having met Patric and talked to him a number of times I'm willing to bet the lifetime ban is because he wouldn't shut up.
vinducati
20th February 2014, 20:01
He has already been banned from certain trackday events.
I think his lively discussion with the people running it was the case.
I am sure he is am entertaining man but it seems he may have a few people who have perhaps had enough.
scrivy
21st February 2014, 12:22
The riders would probably want his head on their stick.
Only if he was awesome at it......:rolleyes:
Grumph
21st February 2014, 13:32
I would be the first to admit that I am not at the pointy end of the field so prize money is irrelevant. I know a few who frequent the pointy end & never heard them moan about the lack of prize money
The way I see it the club organises these race meetings for the benefit of the members who wish to race their bikes. Ultimately the club is US, organising races for OUR benefit. The club attempts to do no more than break even, some meetings make a buck , some don't. If the club had to pay prize money the entry fees would rise , this would be of benefit to the few at the pointy end but the great unwashed would simply find the cost of competing would escalate & fewer would participate, [ entry numbers are already down & no, it is not due to a lack of prize money ]. Alternatively the club could pay prize money , go broke & we would all be losers.
Couple of questions...Do the Register actually charge admission at taupo ? And has taupo got different levels of hire fees depending on whether admission is charged or not ?
The SI circuits certainly do have different rates - roughly twice the cost at Ruapuna if you charge admission....This is how CAMS generally are able to cover costs - and it seems as though ambulance costs are lower here too.
Wheelies....I'd hope that Greymouth organisers among others take a lesson from Paeroa and actually state their policy in the supp regs...It's been the secret police in action for some years and no one has known precisely where they stand. I've been at meetings too where nothing has been said at briefing - again, uncertainty.
merv
21st February 2014, 13:56
Whereas back when Croz and co raced this was how you were supposed to ride. Photo from Facebook of a Canberra Street race 1978 - Stu Avant #2, Murray Sayle #22, Croz #68 and Robbie Phillis #32.
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leathel
21st February 2014, 14:30
Whereas back when Croz and co raced this was how you were supposed to ride. Photo from Facebook of a Canberra Street race 1978 - Stu Avant #2, Murray Sayle #22, Croz #68 and Robbie Phillis #32.
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Classic pic :D
Bit more room to the side of the tracks than Paeroa in that pic!
Although did they sign a form saying they weren't going to pull wheel stands then get upset and dispute the ruling when punished for breaking the rules?
BigAl
21st February 2014, 14:36
Whereas back when Croz and co raced this was how you were supposed to ride. Photo from Facebook of a Canberra Street race 1978 - Stu Avant #2, Murray Sayle #22, Croz #68 and Robbie Phillis #32.
Ahh the good old days without the PC Nazis!
merv
21st February 2014, 14:46
Ahh the good old days without the PC Nazis!
Yeah they would have been encouraged to ride like that to increase the spectacle, but now we just see a decrease of the spectators - roll on the slow demise of the sport.
I suppose moto-x guys won't be allowed to fly over jumps soon either and will have to keep their wheels on the ground at all times, in case, yes in case, they have too much fun and the crowd smiles too much.
Kickaha
21st February 2014, 17:37
Yeah they would have been encouraged to ride like that to increase the spectacle, but now we just a decrease of the spectators - roll on the slow demise of the sport..
How much do you think it would hasten the demise of the event if a fucked up wheelie put a bike into the crowd?
Drew
21st February 2014, 17:42
Yeah they would have been encouraged to ride like that to increase the spectacle, but now we just a decrease of the spectators - roll on the slow demise of the sport.
I suppose moto-x guys won't be allowed to fly over jumps soon either and will have to keep their wheels on the ground at all times, in case, yes in case, they have too much fun and the crowd smiles too much.
And what a sad state of affairs that would be.
So tell ya what. Put up or shut up. You an MNZ member? If so, get yourself on the board and spend the time trying to keep it (the sport) alive your fucken self aye?
I've moaned about a couple things over the years I've raced, sure. As a club member it is my right to voice an opinion. I've never felt strongly enough about any of it to try and change it from the top, though I've always known the option was there.
Drew
21st February 2014, 17:44
How much do you think it would hasten the demise of the event if a fucked up wheelie put a bike into the crowd?Wonder if you'll get a reply? I seemed to get ignored when I asked something of a similar question.
nodrog
21st February 2014, 17:47
Unintentional wheelstands from accelerating out of a corner or cresting a hill are excepted. Like the photo.
nodrog
21st February 2014, 17:49
.... I seemed to get ignored ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWnOiLIdwgo
leathel
21st February 2014, 17:59
Unintentional wheelstands from accelerating out of a corner or cresting a hill are excepted. Like the photo.
Yup but popping one to celebrate when you have been warned not to especially on the back strait are not so expected... Thats more for show...... then making shirts the next year saying how you were banned for support and having a wheel standing bike on them is being a cock :P
merv
21st February 2014, 18:36
Wonder if you'll get a reply? I seemed to get ignored when I asked something of a similar question.
So have you retired from doing wheelies on the road like you used to as well? Where it was safer than on the racetrack of course.
caspernz
21st February 2014, 21:02
Interesting comments...and having been to Paeroa for quite a few years, only one comment from me;
Competitor numbers down, spectator numbers way down, gate prices have gone up too fast, and sadly I reckon you can count the number of times Paeroa will see racing again on the fingers of one hand...and you'll have fingers left over.
Kickaha
21st February 2014, 22:00
So have you retired from doing wheelies on the road like you used to as well? Where it was safer than on the racetrack of course.
Well most likely there'd be a lot less spectators you could clean up when it goes wrong
GD66
22nd February 2014, 00:58
Whereas back when Croz and co raced this was how you were supposed to ride. Photo from Facebook of a Canberra Street race 1978 - Stu Avant #2, Murray Sayle #22, Croz #68 and Robbie Phillis #32.
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And John Pace #36.
Brian d marge
22nd February 2014, 01:05
Some of the lads and lasses at HRC want to ride at Paeroa
its the IOM of the pacific
Stephen
Drew
22nd February 2014, 05:48
So have you retired from doing wheelies on the road like you used to as well? Where it was safer than on the racetrack of course.Of course not. But I know the consequences of getting caught or crashing, and I accept them.
It has been said at briefing for years, that wheelies at Paeroa are not tollerated.
Lance Lowe got fined for doing them a few years ago, I think Frenchy did too. I kept my wheelies for the back straight where I could argue that it was caused by the humps. Got a pretty cool picture of me doing a wheelie, in the Herald the year I raced.
Mental Trousers
22nd February 2014, 10:57
Some of the lads and lasses at HRC want to ride at Paeroa
its the IOM of the pacific
Stephen
Talk them into it. It could be a team building exercise or something.
Shaun Harris
22nd February 2014, 11:17
Some of the lads and lasses at HRC want to ride at Paeroa
its the IOM of the pacific
Stephen
Wanganui fits that description Stephen
caspernz
22nd February 2014, 16:20
I wondered if the rider that did a burnout on the start/finish line during the closing parade ended up getting a banning as well :facepalm:
Hope not, that was rather entertaining, regardless of whether it's within the rules of the event...
http://youtu.be/r4Ext9otPvs
caspernz
22nd February 2014, 16:25
The parade lap this year was cool, made up somewhat for the shortened event.
http://youtu.be/wkzq4haxo7E
gammaguy
22nd February 2014, 16:34
Talk them into it. It could be a team building exercise or something.
Or a team crashing exercise
Brian d marge
22nd February 2014, 23:05
Talk them into it. It could be a team building exercise or something.
more like a holiday , in the sun
with a bit of bike thrown in for good luck
Im back in April , damn airfare alone is 5k , ( 2 adults 2 kids )
But I know the wee girl who is the test rider at hrc and she races in the weekend , she would love to give it a crack
( as would I , her )
Stephen
gammaguy
23rd February 2014, 01:10
But I know the wee girl who is the test rider at hrc and she races in the weekend , she would love to give it a crack
( as would I , her )
Stephen
Why, doesn't she have one?
ellipsis
23rd February 2014, 01:19
Why, doesn't she have one?
...I thought they all had them but just transverse...
wharfy
23rd February 2014, 14:19
Paeroa's street races are a blast. It's such a fun event because of the great atmosphere, the weather is always good, the local businesses and residents get right behind it and we get to do stupid speeds down the main street without losing our licences. It's the only event that I want to do every year if possible and the only event where I don't care where I finish as long as I finish. My first time was in 2011 on the old Triumph. In my first ever street race I had some technical problems and got off the start line 10 seconds after everyone else because the bike wouldn't go into first gear so I finished dead last. In 2012 the Triumph threw a rod in the second practice when it missed fifth gear and over-revved into oblivion. 2013 I had 3 weddings on the same day as Paeroa, so 2014 is the first year I've had a proper go at Paeroa.
The weekend before I'd done the BRM Pacific club round at Taupo with the bike set up for Paeroa. The days between the two were very busy so there wouldn't be any time for me to alter the geometry to suit the streets as I don't have a steering damper, so at Taupo I ....
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Nice one Shane :)
angelindisguise
26th February 2014, 17:38
Unfortunately there is more to Patrick's ban than just one wheelie. I can't/won't go into details, but please be aware there is more than just his side to his story...
Don't know if people are aware but he's also been banned from Hampton Downs for the same issues...
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