Watch the news - B777 missing

[YellowDog]

It's all solved and sorted now :yes:

Some of you guys were on it far earlier than others, but yes it was indeed a politically motivated business transaction, to put CNN shareholders back in business, that caused this plane to be taken by a Stealth SuperJet Transporter. It just swooped down and picked the plane up whole. The passengers have been drugged and released onto the streets of Auckland. They will remember nothing of their ordeal and will just blend in like they've always been there.

Glad that's all over. It was dragging on a bit :yes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/business/media/cnns-ratings-continue-to-hinge-on-flight-370-news.html?_r=0

[R650R]

It's probably just the remains of a boat full of refugees.

Not to mention all the garbage, dead whales and fukishima debri floating in the ocean.
We'll know for sure this is a conspiracy when they show us some grainy picture of wreckage and say its in an area to remote to salvage etc...

[YellowDog]

This entire charade is no more than a ploy by the Americans to flush out the unknown Chinese surveillance satellites and to see just how good they are!

The results to date have been somewhat disappointing :yes:

[mashman]

This entire charade is no more than a ploy by the Americans to flush out the unknown Chinese surveillance satellites and to see just how good they are!

The results to date have been somewhat disappointing :yes:


停止与你的阴茎打字 ...................

[Robbo]

停止与你的阴茎打字 ...................

HaHa.. Translated: "stop typing with your penis" :niceone:

[awa355]

This entire charade is no more than a ploy by the Americans to flush out the unknown Chinese surveillance satellites and to see just how good they are!

The results to date have been somewhat disappointing :yes:

Same theory as when the 747 got shot down over the Sea of Japan a few years ago. The Americans learnt a lot about the Russian response on that occasion. Although I very much doubt FH 370 is anything but a tragic accident.

[rustyrobot]

Same theory as when the 747 got shot down over the Sea of Japan a few years ago. The Americans learnt a lot about the Russian response on that occasion. Although I very much doubt FH 370 is anything but a tragic accident.

You know - that still amazes me... the USSR shot down a full passenger plane from New York, which included a US Senator, in the middle of the cold-war and then lied about it for a week or so - and WW3 didn't start. Makes you wonder if they'd ever really push the button.

[R650R]

You know - that still amazes me... the USSR shot down a full passenger plane from New York, which included a US Senator, in the middle of the cold-war and then lied about it for a week or so - and WW3 didn't start. Makes you wonder if they'd ever really push the button.

Don't forget TWA 800 that just happened to fall apart while the navy was testing missiles...
And the USS Vincinnes and the Iranian Airbus...

[avgas]

Don't forget TWA 800 that just happened to fall apart while the navy was testing missiles...
And the USS Vincinnes and the Iranian Airbus...
<object id="flashObj" width="700" height="394" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,47,0"><param name="movie" value="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?isVid=1&isUI=1" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><param name="flashVars" value="videoId=3221645508001&linkBaseURL=http%3A%2F%2Fti.me%2F1dMl0Cq&playerID=1917933886001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAAABGEUMg~,hNlIXLTZFZn-NQOazMchMDWH0SI1hX7f&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" /><param name="base" value="http://admin.brightcove.com" /><param name="seamlesstabbing" value="false" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="swLiveConnect" value="true" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?isVid=1&isUI=1" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" flashVars="videoId=3221645508001&linkBaseURL=http%3A%2F%2Fti.me%2F1dMl0Cq&playerID=1917933886001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAAABGEUMg~,hNlIXLTZFZn-NQOazMchMDWH0SI1hX7f&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" base="http://admin.brightcove.com" name="flashObj" width="700" height="394" seamlesstabbing="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullScreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" swLiveConnect="true" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></embed></object>

Installed and Commissioned in Feb.

[unstuck]

Is that the laser cannon that they used to try and shoot down that ufo? Fuck that was funny, that thing sidestepped like a ballet dancer.:dodge:

[Tigadee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_O3wgiymXg

[gjm]

They have found a few bits.. 2500ks south west of Perth.
Its satalite pics,, so not sure if its off a plane.
Aussies are out there,, few kiwi boats too.
Mayebe another tall story.
who knows

Dunno if this has bveen sorted yet (I've not been watching the news, online or elsewhere) but if, and it is a big if, the wreckage that is currently being investigated off Perth does in fact turn out to be MH370, it seems that the co-ordinates where it was located are only ~150m distant (over 3,164nm) from the equivalent coordinates to Urumpi airport in Xinjiang.
The only difference is that one latitude is North, the other is South. One press of one (the wrong button) button away.

[scrivy]

The only difference is that one latitude is North, the other is South. One press of one (the wrong button) button away.

But the pilot was Malaysian, not Chinese, so I doubt he pushed the WONG button.... :whistle::lol:

[Banditbandit]

But he might have pushed the WING button - wing wong .. whatever ...

[scrivy]

They have traced it's location, and it's exactly where I knew it would be.....

The lying bastards.....

295219

[avgas]

Is that the laser cannon that they used to try and shoot down that ufo? Fuck that was funny, that thing sidestepped like a ballet dancer.:dodge:
Similar. This was the one was a spin-off from the ASAT or MIACL (designed to shoot satellites). Most of the ground based ASAT's failed due to atmosphere dispersion. So they went back to the drawing board for ground based operations and came up with the ADAM. This thing initially just wacked out enough light to blind targeting cameras on missiles. Then when it got upgraded it could heat up warheads. Then the navy changed the configuration again so they could heat up fuel tanks.......thus the LAWS was born.

Problem is time, ASAT took about 30-60 seconds (in space), ADAM about 1-2 seconds (on very explosive payloads that could be heated - otherwise you got jack) and the LAWS is supposed to be good after 10-20 seconds. So if a plane is flying past you as Mach 2+, unless its clear skies forget it.

But drones are slow. So handy for those.

[Tigadee]

But the pilot was Malaysian, not Chinese, so I doubt he pushed the WONG button....

He was asian, so he pushed the Long button but got the Wrong one instead...

[R650R]

They have traced it's location, and it's exactly where I knew it would be.....

The lying bastards.....



From the latest news reports it seems like our theory was right, except for the hiffing then out the back of a C-130.
They probably just bulldozed the thing off the end of the runway at high tide and let the sea do the rest.

[scrivy]

From the latest news reports it seems like our theory was right, except for the hiffing then out the back of a C-130.
They probably just bulldozed the thing off the end of the runway at high tide and let the sea do the rest.

Yeah, they'll never find the "cargo".....

[willytheekid]

Which ever way you look at it...the sad fact remains

239 people, including two Kiwis...have lost there lives.

RIP MH370 :bye:....we will never know the truth in what actually happened* :no:



*...theres just far to many...odd! findings around this air crash and its investigation...something just dosn't seem right?

[unstuck]

*...theres just far to many...odd! findings around this air crash and its investigation...something just dosn't seem right?

That points to America right there.:yes:

[YellowDog]

Well that's a relief, they've found it!

It's in the Indian Ocean :lol:

http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8819298/mh370-location-found-by-comparing-pings

Now we've told you where it is, you other guys can get on and do the easy part :yes:

[mashman]

Well that's a relief, they've found it!

It's in the Indian Ocean :lol:

http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8819298/mh370-location-found-by-comparing-pings

Now we've told you where it is, you other guys can get on and do the easy part :yes:

Sounds like it's time for Beyond the Poseidon Adventure. The race is on.

[scrivy]

Well that's a relief, they've found it!

It's in the Indian Ocean :lol:

http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8819298/mh370-location-found-by-comparing-pings

Now we've told you where it is, you other guys can get on and do the easy part :yes:

You know what's got me fucked?? Why is it that the OZ and NZ flight crews were flying at 250ft for 4 days..... but when the Chinese came along on their first day and flew at 30,000 ft they saw it.....???

When you fly at 250ft, you can only see about 200-400ft either side of your visual area. Are they stupid or what?? No wonder the Chinese are the new brains of the world......

:oi-grr:

[Banditbandit]

You know what's got me fucked?? Why is it that the OZ and NZ flight crews were flying at 250ft for 4 days..... but when the Chinese came along on their first day and flew at 30,000 ft they saw it.....???

When you fly at 250ft, you can only see about 200-400ft either side of your visual area. Are they stupid or what?? No wonder the Chinese are the new brains of the world......

:oi-grr:



So you can see little pieces of aircraft in the water from about 5.6 miles can you ???

Have the Chinese really seen it or have they seen something else ???

It wasn't the Chinese planes that found this ..

[SMOKEU]

When you fly at 250ft, you can only see about 200-400ft either side of your visual area. Are they stupid or what?? No wonder the Chinese are the new brains of the world......

:oi-grr:

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[scrivy]

So you can see little pieces of aircraft in the water from about 5.6 miles can you ???

Have the Chinese really seen it or have they seen something else ???

It wasn't the Chinese planes that found this ..

I totally understand where you're coming from, and you're spot on, it wasn't visual - it was either radar or satellite.... (satellite my pick)

BUT..... I flew for a number of years, and did railway line/pipeline/dams/fencing visual inspections for companies in Aussie, and at 200 feet, you only see whats below you that's for sure....
Imagine how big the swell was and then throw in white caps..... you won't see jack shit at 250 ft!

The RAAF and NZAF were spanking their monkeys.....

Oh, and then also throw in the minimum 220kph-ish speed of the Orions......
Can you clearly identify a can of coke 30 feet from the side of the road at 220kms??? That was never going to happen...

[Banditbandit]

I totally understand where you're coming from, and you're spot on, it wasn't visual - it was either radar or satellite.... (satellite my pick)

BUT..... I flew for a number of years, and did railway line/pipeline/dams/fencing visual inspections for companies in Aussie, and at 200 feet, you only see whats below you that's for sure....
Imagine how big the swell was and then throw in white caps..... you won't see jack shit at 250 ft!

The RAAF and NZAF were spanking their monkeys.....

Oh, and then also throw in the minimum 220kph-ish speed of the Orions......
Can you clearly identify a can of coke 30 feet from the side of the road at 220kms???

Yeah .. I get all that ... but they knew what they were looking for and they were in the (approximately) right area ... they were not doing big sweeps looking for anything - they were grid searching looking in a specific area ..

At 220klicks I couldn't even see the bumble bee that came in my helmet and slammed me on the cheek ... (I dforgot to shut the visor) and at 220klicks on our roads I am too busy watching in front to worry about coke cans off to the side of the road ..

[oldrider]

Good news.

I have a feeling that they will find this plane wreck and it will reveal that there were difficulties on board due to malfunction, all will be exonerated! R.I.P. :weep:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good news.

I have a feeling that they will find this plane wreck and it will reveal that there were difficulties on board due to malfunction, all will be exonerated! R.I.P. :weep:

Pretty bloody deep water there innit? May make retrieving most of the wreckage near impossible.

[scrivy]

Pretty bloody deep water there innit? May make retrieving most of the wreckage near impossible.

Even if they find the wreckage, the black boxes could be 1000kms away... they will probably never find them.... stink.

[Swoop]

Pretty bloody deep water there innit? May make retrieving most of the wreckage near impossible.
I'm sure a brave Chinese man will step forward, don a humble wetsuit with a "special" air mix, dive down and return to the surface (unharmed) with the black boxes. He will then present them personally to the Chinese premier. Together they will proclaim the greatness of china and how they triumphed when everyone else failed.

Sun-setting film of glorious Chinese national flag waving in the breeze, etc, etc.



(The Chinese PR machine will be working overtime to turn this into a victory for the masses to celebrate)

[oldrider]

I'm sure a brave Chinese man will step forward, don a humble wetsuit with a "special" air mix, dive down and return to the surface (unharmed) with the black boxes. He will then present them personally to the Chinese premier. Together they will proclaim the greatness of china and how they triumphed when everyone else failed.

Sun-setting film of glorious Chinese national flag waving in the breeze, etc, etc.



(The Chinese PR machine will be working overtime to turn this into a victory for the masses to celebrate)

You mean the way the Americans have been doing it since WW2 (Thats as far back as I can remember) how USA is champion of the world at everything! :first:

[Swoop]

You mean the way the Americans have been doing it since WW2 (Thats as far back as I can remember) how USA is champion of the world at everything! :first:
The Chinese communist party need to be seen doing something, with all the toys their military has been spending up large on.
The population is restless and needs a bit of reassurance their country is in safe hands. PR machine to the rescue!

[oldrider]

The Chinese communist party need to be seen doing something, with all the toys their military has been spending up large on.
The population is restless and needs a bit of reassurance their country is in safe hands. PR machine to the rescue!

So you are saying what China needs is their own branch of Hollywood! ... God help them! (and us) :(

[Crasherfromwayback]

Even if they find the wreckage, the black boxes could be 1000kms away... they will probably never find them.... stink.

Yeah very sad for all the families involved. Prob never know wtf actaully happened and why the fuck the plane was where it was.

[mashman]

So you are saying what China needs is their own branch of Hollywood! ... God help them! (and us) :(

Awesome... I love Kung Fu movies.

[gjm]

Y'all want a conspiracy theory to explain this? (Other than the [even more?] ridiculous accusations coming out of the anti-Obama factions in the US...)

http://worldtruth.tv/rothschild-inherits-a-semiconductor-patent-for-freescale-semiconductors/


I hope we do get to hear the truth about what happened.



Edit: Oops. Apologies for the repost. :facepalm: :rolleyes: :o

[mashman]

Y'all want a conspiracy theory to explain this? (Other than the [even more?] ridiculous accusations coming out of the anti-Obama factions in the US...)

http://worldtruth.tv/rothschild-inherits-a-semiconductor-patent-for-freescale-semiconductors/


I hope we do get to hear the truth about what happened.

Repost........

[avgas]

The Chinese communist party need to be seen doing something, with all the toys their military has been spending up large on.
The population is restless and needs a bit of reassurance their country is in safe hands. PR machine to the rescue!
No they don't - as far as the population is aware, Japan is preparing to invade them.

(same thing could be said about NZ - with out "lack of enemies" who needs an armed force?)

[avgas]

Even if they find the wreckage, the black boxes could be 1000kms away... they will probably never find them.... stink.
Actually they can track that (in the next 20 days). So its not as bad as it sounds. Problem they faced was which direction they plane went......not where the ocean currents go.

[scrivy]

Actually they can track that (in the next 20 days). So its not as bad as it sounds. Problem they faced was which direction they plane went......not where the ocean currents go.

Oh, I thought they said only 30 days of battery...? Been 17 days so far.... 2 weeks to go.

I also thought the pings were only good for about 10km range from the boxes? Was that correct?? Don't know. But if it is, and the water is 5kms deep, thats only about a 9km radius above the boxes... not alot of hope in finding them really....

But.... they can hear whales fucking for hundreds of kms with their subs, so go figure..... maybe they shouldn't ping, but go.... Huuuuuurrgggghhhhh.... squirt.... arrrrrgggghhhhhhh instead........????!!!

[swarfie]

But.... maybe they shouldn't ping, but go.... Huuuuuurrgggghhhhh.... squirt.... arrrrrgggghhhhhhh instead........????!!!

They'd probly only find Scrivies if that was the case...:woohoo::yes::facepalm:

[scrivy]

They'd probly only find Scrivies if that was the case...:woohoo::yes::facepalm:

+1 CHAR :rolleyes::shifty:

[scrivy]

They'd probly only find Scrivies if that was the case...:woohoo::yes::facepalm:

What if it went 'fap...fap...fap....' instead??

[carbonhed]

So what's the latest conspiracy theory du jour? I lose track.

[rustyrobot]

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/9866023/Small-plane-missing-from-Auckland

Flew out to sea and disappeared from radar.

Not saying it's aliens....

[FJRider]

Oh, I thought they said only 30 days of battery...? Been 17 days so far.... 2 weeks to go.



How long will the battery last 20,000 feet below the sea surface ... ???

[Robbo]

Yeah very sad for all the families involved. Prob never know wtf actaully happened and why the fuck the plane was where it was.

Exactly Pete. At least now knowing that the plane has gone down and where it has gone down will give the families some sort of closure but the reasoning as to why may never be discovered as there are so many possible scenarios. It may turn out to be one of the great aviation mysteries.

[YellowDog]

Exactly Pete. At least now knowing that the plane has gone down and where it has gone down will give the families some sort of closure but the reasoning as to why may never be discovered as there are so many possible scenarios. It may turn out to be one of the great aviation mysteries.

Yip agree. Even though the families and friends always knew the likely outcome, it doesn't make it any easier when it is actually confirmed :no:

I heard a good interview this morning with a specialist whom claims that this incident was carried out with the utmost skill and precision. It was designed so that the wreckage and data recorders are not ever found.

The cnut responsible can rot in hell for the taking of innocent lives, just because he finally discover what most already know. All governments are corrupt and everyone knows that if you don't want to get personal faarked, you need to keep your head below their perceived radar.

Tosser!

[PrincessBandit]

I also thought the pings were only good for about 10km range from the boxes? Was that correct?? Don't know. But if it is, and the water is 5kms deep, thats only about a 9km radius above the boxes... not alot of hope in finding them really....



Up to 60km in ideal conditions

Still not great odds in that vast space :mellow:

[R650R]

No wonder they found it (still no tangible evidence provided) because it looks like the Dutch Airforce already found it!!!

http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenland/twee-f-16s-onderscheppen-vrachttoestel

A coincidence like this is almost as a rare as the military having a drill about 911 scenario on the same day that the real thing happened...

Google translate version:


March 24, 2014 13:01

Two F-16s intercepted freighter


From the Brabant Volkel airbase, two F-16s took off to intercept. A freighter

It turned out this was a cargo plane, a Boeing 777F LAN Cargo, which was en route to the airport. The unit flew from Miami in Dutch airspace and they could not connect to the device.

A spokesman for the Coordinator for Counterterrorism and Security unit had previously requested permission for the flight. That is because of the nuclear security summit in The Hague is mandatory.

The jets have the cargo plane accompanied this had left. Dutch airspace The unit flew independently to the airport in Frankfurt, Germany.

[carbonhed]

No wonder they found it (still no tangible evidence provided) because it looks like the Dutch Airforce already found it!!!

http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenland/twee-f-16s-onderscheppen-vrachttoestel

A coincidence like this is almost as a rare as the military having a drill about 911 scenario on the same day that the real thing happened...

Google translate version:


March 24, 2014 13:01

Two F-16s intercepted freighter


From the Brabant Volkel airbase, two F-16s took off to intercept. A freighter

It turned out this was a cargo plane, a Boeing 777F LAN Cargo, which was en route to the airport. The unit flew from Miami in Dutch airspace and they could not connect to the device.

A spokesman for the Coordinator for Counterterrorism and Security unit had previously requested permission for the flight. That is because of the nuclear security summit in The Hague is mandatory.

The jets have the cargo plane accompanied this had left. Dutch airspace The unit flew independently to the airport in Frankfurt, Germany.

:facepalm: :laugh:

[AllanB]

The early 80's were so much better - just blame Aliens for everything.

[oldrider]

This whole saga shows how fragile world harmony is ... tension and high flashpoints are everywhere ... not a good look IMHO! :shifty:

[mashman]

This whole saga shows how fragile world harmony is ... tension and high flashpoints are everywhere ... not a good look IMHO! :shifty:

It's going to have to get much worse before we can even think about things getting better... it's the sub-human way :facepalm:

[Tigadee]

This whole saga shows how fragile world harmony is ... tension and high flashpoints are everywhere ...

Since the beginning of time, mate... Women, territory, precious gems, livestock, energy, technology, missing airliners, you name it.

[Scouse]

Since the beginning of time, mate... Women, territory, precious gems, livestock, energy, technology, missing airliners, you name it.Specially when you put Asians flying sophisticated aircraft into the mix.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Specially when you put Asians flying sophisticated aircraft into the mix.

I thought they flew it into the sea?




...too soon?

[oldrider]

I thought they flew it into the sea?

Is that what they mean when they talk about getting a flew shot? :confused:

[FJRider]

The early 80's were so much better - just blame Aliens for everything.

I get by on ... It wasn't MY fault ... :beer:

Makes life so simple ... ;)

[Robbo]

Here is a photo you won't see very often (not everyone is in the picture)
but Aust, NZ, US, Chinese, South Korean and Japanese military personnel all
in the same room and working together.

The guy speaking is Australia's defense minister, the Chinese are in Blueish Camo
and the guy in the suit.

[scrivy]

Is that what they mean when they talk about getting a flew shot? :confused:

I think the pilot had a hidden agenda..... :facepalm::shit::shutup::innocent:

[scrivy]

I thought they flew it into the sea?

...too soon?

They found co-ordinates of runways on his simulator, and also noughts and crosses, scrabble, and even hide and seek cheats.......
:pinch:

[Waihou Thumper]

Specially when you put Asians flying sophisticated aircraft into the mix.

What a stupid ass wipe comment!
I bet you have and will fly without even knowing because you are too wrapped up in your own bigoted world! :finger:

[YellowDog]

As a side note: I flew Malaysian Air via KL last year.

Outstanding plane, greats service, and far stricter security than most airports I have visited.

This disaster would NOT stop me flying with them again; especially if they reduced their prices as a result of the fear factor :yes:

[FJRider]

This disaster would stop me flying with them again; especially if they reduced their prices as a result of the fear factor :yes:

Why ... the planes disappearance seems more to do with one of the pilots actions ... more than anything else.

[Berries]

This disaster would stop me flying with them again; especially if they reduced their prices as a result of the fear factor :yes:
Ha ha, if they reduced their prices I would be even more inclined to fly with them. You can't take this one random incident and extrapolate it that far. FFS, I am surprised you ride a motorbike with that attitude.

[YellowDog]

Why ... the planes disappearance seems more to do with one of the pilots actions ... more than anything else.

Beer typing again.

I would be happy to fly Malaysian Airlines again, no problem.
(An Airbus rather than a Boing though)

[oldrider]

You are most likely at greater risk of "pilot meltdown" every time you travel with another driver on the road plus you are surounded by potential nutters the whole time! :shit:

[Scouse]

What a stupid ass wipe comment!
I bet you have and will fly without even knowing because you are too wrapped up in your own bigoted world! :finger:Go fuck your self you are a dreamer. I cant think of any euro pilot that has committed hari kari with a load of paying customers on board but to date there have been several Asians that have. wake up and smell the coffee dork, their culture even treat suicide as doing the honourable thing.

[mashman]

And then it wasn't? (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/22252979/retrieved-debris-not-part-of-missing-jet/)

[scrivy]

Still haven't found it...........
FFS!!! Look in Diego Garcia.... That's where it is.............. What don't they get????
;):shutup:

Have they sent a sub to the area???

[YellowDog]

And then it wasn't? (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/22252979/retrieved-debris-not-part-of-missing-jet/)

There must be just so much discarded shit out there in the ocean. Boats illegally flushing tanks and dumping waste etc. etc. out there.

I heard a radio interview stating that the pilot was extremely skilled and will have used this to scuttled the plane so that it cannot ever be found.

I for one hope he has made a mistake and the plane is found, either by luck or by judgement. Finding the plane is the only chance the families and loved ones will ever have any chance of eventually moving on from this tragedy.

[oldrider]

There must be just so much discarded shit out there in the ocean. Boats illegally flushing tanks and dumping waste etc. etc. out there.

I heard a radio interview stating that the pilot was extremely skilled and will have used this to scuttled the plane so that it cannot ever be found.

I for one hope he has made a mistake and the plane is found, either by luck or by judgement. Finding the plane is the only chance the families and loved ones will ever have any chance of eventually moving on from this tragedy.

Plus one, for everyone concerned, especially the pilots.

[Laava]

There must be just so much discarded shit out there in the ocean. Boats illegally flushing tanks and dumping waste etc. etc. out there.

I heard a radio interview stating that the pilot was extremely skilled and will have used this to scuttled the plane so that it cannot ever be found.

I for one hope he has made a mistake and the plane is found, either by luck or by judgement. Finding the plane is the only chance the families and loved ones will ever have any chance of eventually moving on from this tragedy.

I think this pilot or pilots, has/have been very clever. Not in an admirable way but clever nonetheless.

[Tigadee]

their culture even treat suicide as doing the honourable thing.

Nah, you're just thinking Japanese for that kinda attitude, mate...

AND you obviously have no clue of the Malay culture. Talk to any non-Malay Malaysians (you probably don't know that there are three main races in that country, right? Malay, Chinese and Indian), and then you'll understand (if you want to)...

[Banditbandit]

Go fuck your self you are a dreamer. I cant think of any euro pilot that has committed hari kari with a load of paying customers on board but to date there have been several Asians that have. wake up and smell the coffee dork, their culture even treat suicide as doing the honourable thing.

You are wrong - 24 American pilots have done it in the last decade ..

Go here

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/03/11/just-how-common-are-pilot-suicides/?tid=pm_national_pop

None were flying commercial jets - but one day it will happen ..

[mashman]

There must be just so much discarded shit out there in the ocean. Boats illegally flushing tanks and dumping waste etc. etc. out there.

I heard a radio interview stating that the pilot was extremely skilled and will have used this to scuttled the plane so that it cannot ever be found.

I for one hope he has made a mistake and the plane is found, either by luck or by judgement. Finding the plane is the only chance the families and loved ones will ever have any chance of eventually moving on from this tragedy.

Aye, the ocean is full of wubbish.

I guess we'll never know if the pilot was in on it or not.

Even at that the family's didn't seem too happy that the debris had been found. Confusing times all round I guess.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Aye, the ocean is full of wubbish.

I guess we'll never know if the pilot was in on it or not.

.

Fuck yeah. Look what got washed into it after the tsunami in Japan! He surely must've been.

[mashman]

Fuck yeah. Look what got washed into it after the tsunami in Japan! He surely must've been.

He may have been in on it, he may have removed from the equation... we'll likely never know.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He may have been in on it, he may have removed from the equation... we'll likely never know.

Correct. But whoever was *in on it* sure as fuck had some pretty good flying and nav knowledge.

[mashman]

Correct. But whoever was *in on it* sure as fuck had some pretty good flying and nav knowledge.

Aliens. Deal with it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Aliens. Deal with it.

You trying to tell us Marq Marquez, Lorenzo, Rossi and Pedro stole a plane? Were they heading to Australia to have catchup beersies with the other one ?

[awa355]

Aliens, I've got their picture. Posing in Malaya about 4 weeks ago.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/Untitledpicture-5.png

[mashman]

You trying to tell us Marq Marquez, Lorenzo, Rossi and Pedro stole a plane? Were they heading to Australia to have catchup beersies with the other one ?

Nah nah nah, they're angels, not aliens.

[mashman]

Aliens, I've got their picture. Posing in Malaya about 4 weeks ago.

I knew they weren't TV stars.

[avgas]

Still haven't found it...........
FFS!!! Look in Diego Garcia.... That's where it is.............. What don't they get????
;):shutup:
Have they sent a sub to the area???
That's my thoughts also. Navy Base in Diego Garcia, or one of China's 1000's of hidden hangers in the mainland (towards Nepalese border).

Either way U.S. and/or China aren't talking.

[scrivy]

Correct. But whoever was *in on it* sure as fuck had some pretty good flying and nav knowledge.

Nope.
Spoke to my brother who has been a 777 captain and Safety Officer for Boeing for about 15 years.
Anyone with minimal flying time can be told what to do in less than 20 minutes to get the big bird to do other than normal shit.
Less than 20 minutes!! Someone could've entered the cockpit, taken out the pilots and had their way with her....

Even I've played around with sims to know what buttons to push and systems to dis-engage.... mind you, it did help that I lived with my bro for 6 months....

They may be big, but still simple to control if you know their systems.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nope.
Spoke to my brother who has been a 777 captain and Safety Officer for Boeing for about 15 years.
Anyone with minimal flying time can be told what to do in less than 20 minutes to get the big bird to do other than normal shit.
Less than 20 minutes!! Someone could've entered the cockpit, taken out the pilots and had their way with her....

Even I've played around with sims to know what buttons to push and systems to dis-engage.... mind you, it did help that I lived with my bro for 6 months....

They may be big, but still simple to control if you know their systems.

That's some freaky shit then!

[scrivy]

That's some freaky shit then!

Yeah, it is when you think before 9/11 there wasn't a locked door mentality....

[oldrider]

“Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice! :wacko:

[scrivy]

Any ground crew with just a bit of knowledge could have done it...
...and since he would have been known to the pilots...... would have been let in.... even if it had tits and a short dress it would've been let in.... (apparantely...)

[scrivy]

Just one spec of debris please.....:shifty:
:wait::wait:

[buggerit]

With the drone tech maybe everyone on board were just passengers

[scrivy]

With the drone tech maybe everyone on board were just passengers
Well they can't all have been pilots...... :pinch::rofl:

[Grashopper]

Just one spec of debris please.....:shifty:
:wait::wait:

Yeah, can't believe that they still haven't found anything yet. There is a lot of crab on Tomnod, but unfortunately it doesn't stay stationary. Just check out those Tomnod maps.

[gjm]

This may well have been mentioned before, but since 9/11 Boeings (in particular) have been fitted with systems that allows them to be controlled from the ground...

The same system wouldn't be difficult to fit into an(other) aircraft, flown fairly close to the 777.

[rustyrobot]

This may well have been mentioned before, but since 9/11 Boeings (in particular) have been fitted with systems that allows them to be controlled from the ground...

The same system wouldn't be difficult to fit into an(other) aircraft, flown fairly close to the 777.

Have you got any information on this that isn't from a conspiracy website? Did a little search myself but can't turn up anything from mainstream media, an airline or Boeing themselves.

[Tazz]

I totally understand where you're coming from, and you're spot on, it wasn't visual - it was either radar or satellite.... (satellite my pick)

BUT..... I flew for a number of years, and did railway line/pipeline/dams/fencing visual inspections for companies in Aussie, and at 200 feet, you only see whats below you that's for sure....
Imagine how big the swell was and then throw in white caps..... you won't see jack shit at 250 ft!

The RAAF and NZAF were spanking their monkeys.....

Oh, and then also throw in the minimum 220kph-ish speed of the Orions......
Can you clearly identify a can of coke 30 feet from the side of the road at 220kms??? That was never going to happen...

:rolleyes:

"A Royal New Zealand Air Force Orion spotted a cluster of 11 objects on Friday. No objects retrieved have been confirmed as wreckage from the plane."

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/22252979/retrieved-debris-not-part-of-missing-jet/

[scrivy]

:rolleyes:

"A Royal New Zealand Air Force Orion spotted a cluster of 11 objects on Friday. No objects retrieved have been confirmed as wreckage from the plane."

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/22252979/retrieved-debris-not-part-of-missing-jet/

Yeah, I've been in an Orion when my bro captained one for the NZRAF years back. They can be turned on a (relative) dime if needed. They could have seen if it was debris from the plane if they really wanted too.....

I still reckon US, Chinese, Rusky etc. etc. nuclear subs have been in that area patrolling.... they could hear the black boxes....

FFS... they think we're all stupid.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-460753/Britain-launches-massive-submarine-hear-ship-Atlantic.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-super-submarine-ambush-ahead-1323450

[Tazz]

Yeah, I've been in an Orion when my bro captained one for the NZRAF years back. They can be turned on a (relative) dime if needed. They could have seen if it was debris from the plane if they really wanted too.....

FFS... they think we're all stupid.....

I still reckon US, Chinese, Rusky etc. etc. nuclear subs have been in that area patrolling.... they could hear the black boxes....

You need to don yer floaties and get out there to find it for em!

[scrivy]

You need to don yer floaties and get out there to find it for em!

If my bro just gave me his newest acquisition.. a lear jet... i feckn wud!!

[ellipsis]

Have you got any information on this that isn't from a conspiracy website?

...this isn't from a conspiracy website...just a bloke who had little to do the afternoon he knocked this out...who needs dedicated sites for imaginative ramblings?...he's a pilot too...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The American is withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control system (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Talebans when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Talebans ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.
What the Talebans want is money. They want to sell the system to the Russian or the Chinese. The Russian is too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it.
Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile the American has engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they are determined to intercept and recapture the cargo.
The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American will not hijack or harm the civilian. So MH370 is the perfect carrier.
There are 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them.
When MH370 is about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, one American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.
How the AWAC can do it ? Remember 911 incident ? After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all the Boeing could be remote controlled by ground control tower. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones.
The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication system, changed course and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite.
The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react professionally.
The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anambas, South India and then landed at Maldives (some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refuelled and continued its flight to Garcia Deigo, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen. They believe only dead person will not talk. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot.
The American has put up a good show. First diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian is the co-actor.
The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists....

[YellowDog]

Sounds highly plausible :no:

[ellipsis]

...would make a great throwaway pulp spy fiction read when you are all seated comfortably on your trip to nowhere though...Sly Stallone could be the flight hostess in disquise...

[awa355]

Here's Sty, the air hostess.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/Untitledpicture-7.png

[jonbuoy]

Yeah, I've been in an Orion when my bro captained one for the NZRAF years back. They can be turned on a (relative) dime if needed. They could have seen if it was debris from the plane if they really wanted too.....

I still reckon US, Chinese, Rusky etc. etc. nuclear subs have been in that area patrolling.... they could hear the black boxes....

FFS... they think we're all stupid.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-460753/Britain-launches-massive-submarine-hear-ship-Atlantic.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-super-submarine-ambush-ahead-1323450

To put in in perspective take a map of the search area, now work out to scale how big of a dot the range of the black box is, dots for the number of submarines and search aircraft and their search limits and dots representing the size of debris they are looking for (you might need a magnifying glass or microscope for that and a very thin pencil).

Unless it's blind luck ships don't stand a chance of tripping over it - you can loose site of an object thrown overboard in a matter of seconds if you take your eye of it.

With no final semi accurate fix finding its a complete crap shoot.

[Tigadee]

Edward Snowden was on the plane on his way to China and the US shot it down (or hit it with a directed EMP weapon).

Now they've sent everyone on a wild goose chase away from the crash site (away from where it actually happened) looking in a hay stack for a non-existant needle...

And if you don't hear from me for at least a week, you know the CIA has come to get me!

Or it might've been aliens... calling Captain Kirk!

[avgas]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/d/dc/20110426163710!Glomar_Explorer_Suisun_Bay_CA.jpg
They have lost the plane but found the Glomar Explorer just off the west coast of Australia. :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSF_Explorer

[scrivy]

To put in in perspective take a map of the search area, now work out to scale how big of a dot the range of the black box is, dots for the number of submarines and search aircraft and their search limits and dots representing the size of debris they are looking for (you might need a magnifying glass or microscope for that and a very thin pencil).

Unless it's blind luck ships don't stand a chance of tripping over it - you can loose site of an object thrown overboard in a matter of seconds if you take your eye of it.

With no final semi accurate fix finding its a complete crap shoot.

I hear ya.
BUT...... as I stated above, submarines can hear "everything"..... You cannot tell me that they didn't hear a hunk of metal weighing over 200 tonnes hitting the water surface at over 200 mph?? WTF?? They CAN hear that stuff.... they haven't been up front about it either....

They have never mentioned 'Hearing' anything within the flight time of the aircraft... they would have checked their sonar/radar etc for impact 'noise' for sure. They have been very quiet about the whole saga.

...and now we have a different last radio signoff from the pilot.... I mean, come on, how can you have a different transcript from a recording??? FFS... they keep feeding us bullshit.

If I had family members on that plane, I'd be pretty fucked off by now...........

[jonbuoy]

I hear ya.
BUT...... as I stated above, submarines can hear "everything"..... You cannot tell me that they didn't hear a hunk of metal weighing over 200 tonnes hitting the water surface at over 200 mph?? WTF?? They CAN hear that stuff.... they haven't been up front about it either....

They have never mentioned 'Hearing' anything within the flight time of the aircraft... they would have checked their sonar/radar etc for impact 'noise' for sure. They have been very quiet about the whole saga.

...and now we have a different last radio signoff from the pilot.... I mean, come on, how can you have a different transcript from a recording??? FFS... they keep feeding us bullshit.

If I had family members on that plane, I'd be pretty fucked off by now...........

I dont know where the submarines were when it happened or what they were up to at the time. It must be possible for them to hear a plane crash into the water if they were listening for it.

Seems crazy that they screwed up the release of the final words from the plane. Complete torture for the relatives, I hope the passengers were unconcious or already dead when it ditched. I dont really hold with the governemnt conspiracy theories can see how one or two crazy people might be behind it.

Malaysian airlines havent handled this well, would be amazing if they survive this - check out their share price drop. Can see them heading the same way as Pan Am and TWA, maybe that was the plan - revenge?

[scrivy]

Can see them heading the same way as Pan Am and TWA, maybe that was the plan - revenge?

Hmm..... that's a new theory.......:shifty::corn:

[Tigadee]

Malaysian airlines havent handled this well, would be amazing if they survive this - check out their share price drop. Can see them heading the same way as Pan Am and TWA, maybe that was the plan - revenge?

Not surprising... they are semi-government owned and so filled with incompetent unqualified cronies; most large Malaysian companies are. None expect to face disasters and will always look to the government to bail them out.

[YellowDog]

[QUOTE=scrivy;1130701778]I hear ya.
BUT...... as I stated above, submarines can hear "everything"..... You cannot tell me that they didn't hear a hunk of metal weighing over 200 tonnes hitting the water surface at over 200 mph?? WTF?? [QUOTE]

The oversight is understandable. A sperm whale with bad wind sounds very similar :no:

[Scouse]

Not surprising... they are semi-government owned and so filled with incompetent unqualified cronies; most large Malaysian companies are. None expect to face disasters and will always look to the government to bail them out.Another Asian trait. Just sayin.

[R650R]

Yep every nuke sub in the Indian Ocean would have heard if that plane hit the water, not only the impact but the unique signature of tearing and cracking aluminium. And not only would they have heard it but as they record everything any new sound would be played back, analysed and logged.

The whole BS about 'we found it' is the classic misdirection common when a con job is going down, they think everyone will go ok and forget about it. But they underestimated the level of interest and voyuerisim around plane crashes, people want to see real wreckage before its over.

There has not been one single mention of Diego in news, surely the USA wouldn't miss a good publicity coup by running a search mission from such an ideal location...

I see the latest conspiracy involves an IBM engineer sending a black photo with the iphone5 EXIF data showing location at Diego...

[mashman]

Should ask the NSA, they know everything.

[scrivy]

Attention! Attention! ***BREAKING NEWS***
Click here! Click here! To increase views.
Here are summary points the media abuse:

The plane flew high, the plane flew low.
The captain went where nobody knows
The media is left to presuppose

The plane flew to the left, and then to the right
It vanished out of everyone’s sight
Lithium batteries explode like dynamite.

The plane flew low, then flew high
It decompressed and the passengers died.
Conspiracies soar that the government lied!

It flew over land and flew over ocean
It turned and turned in mysterious motion
“Abducted by aliens” has become a cult devotion

It could’ve gone south, then gone to the north
Or west and east and back and forth
Why aren’t Officials showing some remorse?

Malaysia still doesn’t know what to do
So the FBI has sent in its crew
Australia says the plane’s in the ocean blue

The Chinese scream, worrying time and a half
21 days have gone by, radar gaffe.
That what happens with an incompetent staff.

A friend of the pilot has spent days trying
Alerting police he was in “no state to be flying”
One more rumor Malaysia is denying

Some say their loved ones cell phones ring
Satellite data reveals a ping ping ping
Yet 3 weeks later many are left wondering

Why no hard evidence, and in odd context
Families of the victims received a late night text
“All lives are lost”, left many perplexed

A resolution that many couldn’t accept.
And one that media is forced to reject
Or else their ratings would be wrecked!

***THIS JUST IN*** ***THIS JUST IN***
300 debris pieces in the ocean
“One more story for media to spin!”

Another unconvincing theory is from Jim Stone
Who claims Philip Wood sent a text on his phone
After landing at Diego Garcia in a WIFI free zone

While ratings soar, journalism dies
Entertainment wins, despite all the cries
Of loved ones left to endure all the lies.

“Breaking News” is news not worthwhile
Just adding to the already unending media bile
To see whose journalism can be the most vile.

[scrivy]

There has not been one single mention of Diego in news, surely the USA wouldn't miss a good publicity coup by running a search mission from such an ideal location...

I see the latest conspiracy involves an IBM engineer sending a black photo with the iphone5 EXIF data showing location at Diego...

Hmmmm...... The only proof of the Indian Ocean theory came from the Inmarsat satellite providers........ I wonder if they were paid off to pedal a diversion???
If busted, they could always change their story like Malaysian airlines have....:facepalm: and say their technology was inaccurate....

What extent of a follow up was there to the claims from the residents of the Maldives, that they saw a jet airliner flying low over them at 6ish in the morning..... heading of all places South......... :shifty:

Surely they will eventually find wreckage in the drink, but it does make for great conspiracy theories.....:yes::yes::yes::love::shutup:

[scrivy]

Maybe fishermen will find fish with 777 parts inside them............:facepalm::no:

[jonbuoy]

Yep every nuke sub in the Indian Ocean would have heard if that plane hit the water, not only the impact but the unique signature of tearing and cracking aluminium. And not only would they have heard it but as they record everything any new sound would be played back, analysed and logged.

The whole BS about 'we found it' is the classic misdirection common when a con job is going down, they think everyone will go ok and forget about it. But they underestimated the level of interest and voyuerisim around plane crashes, people want to see real wreckage before its over.

There has not been one single mention of Diego in news, surely the USA wouldn't miss a good publicity coup by running a search mission from such an ideal location...

I see the latest conspiracy involves an IBM engineer sending a black photo with the iphone5 EXIF data showing location at Diego...

Really - anything to back that claim about the submarines up?

[avgas]

Yep every nuke sub in the Indian Ocean would have heard if that plane hit the water, not only the impact but the unique signature of tearing and cracking aluminium.
Errr no. If by hear you mean sound - you really need to listen to the ocean. It's not a quiet place. You are good for about 20km. Then the "noise" is too much. No to mention that a majority of the sound of something hitting the water actually travels through air, or at best through the water surface. This is why Tesla wanted to use surface waves as a communication medium.

Sound IN water would have be caused by something IN the water (i.e. plane exploding after it had submerged)......in a plane crash this happens on the surface.

Now if you are talking about Sonar - you would need a ping to hit the plane. Also difficult.

If your talking about british new wave sonar (supposedly the best) - HMS Astute was no where near unfortunately. And its "configuration" is unique unfortunately. Not even the USS New Mexico is as good.

So not saying its impossible........just very, highly implausible. More likely to find out exactly where the plane was in the air than where it crashed into the water.

[Woodman]

Its quite interesting watching conspiracy theories form. Nobody has a clue, but the theories just keep building:drool:

[scrivy]

..but the theories just keep building:drool:

Like watching good porn???? But ya can't rip one off??? :rolleyes::bleh:

[R650R]

Its quite interesting watching conspiracy theories form. Nobody has a clue, but the theories just keep building:drool:

Actually there are lots of clues and changed stories. Remember a conspiracy is where one or more third parties conspire to cause something to happen.
And just like in a criminal conspiracy where say three guys were going to beat someone up, commit fraud on a business or steal something and then get caught by cops who hear several different packs of lies.
Just like the three crims all the parties in this case keep changing their stories.
If this were a legitimate event all we would have heard is the plane is off course and lost like in the first few days.
But some of the players didn't stick with the script, just like in a robbery they knew some of their mates would talk to cut a deal and no one wanted to be left hanging there to dry when no deals left.
The first to get spooked was the General who knows all to well how harsh their justice system is and accidently announced they tracked the plane on radar then tried to say they didn't.
Then Rolls Royce not wanting an expensive lawsuit says hey our engines were still running 7 hours later... whoops...
And the corridor where the plane might be. Would have originally been a circle around that satellite parked close to diego. Now the fact that they chopped that circle into an arc and then used a real thick line to draw a 'corridor' shows deliberate misdirection.
This part of the world is just too busy to lose a plane with massive civilian shipping activity alone, then there is all the cumulative military activity in the region.
With Diego being an important SAC base that big 'empty' ocean would be heavily surveiled by all sorts and we continue to see the media not mention this well known spot.

[scrivy]

Info from the latest Sub launched in the UK.
"Astute’s sonar is so advanced that if she was lying in the English Channel she would be able to detect ships leaving New York harbour 3,000 nautical miles away (although the details of how she can do this are classified)."

Even if other subs in that area were half as good.......... ya'd think a navy would have said they 'heard' a crash....

[jonbuoy]

Info from the latest Sub launched in the UK.
"Astute’s sonar is so advanced that if she was lying in the English Channel she would be able to detect ships leaving New York harbour 3,000 nautical miles away (although the details of how she can do this are classified)."

Even if other subs in that area were half as good.......... ya'd think a navy would have said they 'heard' a crash....

From the press release.... That would be a hell of a lot of ships to be hearing at the same time... Maybe theoretically if they could crank the gain up high enough. Otherwise they will pick out every single trawler, yacht, commercial ship and whale fart across the Atlantic.

[scrivy]

Did a US Navy Submarine hear the plane impact the water off the Andaman Islands?
On March 13th, “U.S. officials said earlier that they have an “indication” the missing Malaysian Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.”

A sub’s passive sonar station is constantly manned night and day. It consists of a series of arrays of hydrophones that run along the hull on both sides and a computer that can analyze the sounds the sub hears and help classify them for the combat information center on the sub.

This computer can also determine a line of bearing on the contact and estimate the range (and even the depth if submerged) by comparing the sound signatures between hydrophones as they run along the hull. Its accuracy in predicting range decreases depending upon the distance of the sound source and other factors like temperature, depth, salinity and the thermocline layers that these factors combine to create.

A 330 ton airliner hitting the water at 500-600 kts. would sound like a gigantic explosion underwater. And I mean gigantic, roughly 4,500 lbs of TNT going off and exerting a force of 20,000 psi on the water at the impact area. This would result in a giant over-pressure condition in the water that would emanate out as a shock wave (in contrast, the big depth charge explosions in WWII movies were only 300lb charges). It would have a huge sound signature that would travel tens, if not hundreds, of miles, depending upon conditions.

If the sonar operator heard such a sound, they would give it a contact number and log it. At intervals during the day and night, the submarine un-spools an ultra-high frequency antenna buoy and transmits a micro-burst of radio energy to a Sat, which gives the subs position, course, heading, crew emails and various situation reports that would include contacts of interest or unusual occurrences that they think they should phone in. A large underwater explosion would probably qualify as an unusual occurrence.

Tell the time and place you heard the noise and you’ve got a good idea of that sub’s position. We can assume from the time the ACARS pings were being logged that this would have been early daylight of March 8th. That “indication” was considered so credible that the Navy diverted the USS Kidd to the area at high speed to investigate an area that was probably more narrowed down for it by the Pentagon.


So..... did it crash, is it in Diego, or did those pesky feckin aliens take them??
Imagine all that anal probing going on right now.... :rolleyes::lol:

[Banditbandit]

So..... did it crash, is it in Diego, or did those pesky feckin aliens take them??
Imagine all that anal probing going on right now.... :rolleyes::lol:


It's still aliens to blame ...

And I'm not sure I want to know what's being shoved up the arses at Malaysian Airlines !!!

[jonbuoy]

Did a US Navy Submarine hear the plane impact the water off the Andaman Islands?
On March 13th, “U.S. officials said earlier that they have an “indication” the missing Malaysian Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.”

A sub’s passive sonar station is constantly manned night and day. It consists of a series of arrays of hydrophones that run along the hull on both sides and a computer that can analyze the sounds the sub hears and help classify them for the combat information center on the sub.

This computer can also determine a line of bearing on the contact and estimate the range (and even the depth if submerged) by comparing the sound signatures between hydrophones as they run along the hull. Its accuracy in predicting range decreases depending upon the distance of the sound source and other factors like temperature, depth, salinity and the thermocline layers that these factors combine to create.

A 330 ton airliner hitting the water at 500-600 kts. would sound like a gigantic explosion underwater. And I mean gigantic, roughly 4,500 lbs of TNT going off and exerting a force of 20,000 psi on the water at the impact area. This would result in a giant over-pressure condition in the water that would emanate out as a shock wave (in contrast, the big depth charge explosions in WWII movies were only 300lb charges). It would have a huge sound signature that would travel tens, if not hundreds, of miles, depending upon conditions.

If the sonar operator heard such a sound, they would give it a contact number and log it. At intervals during the day and night, the submarine un-spools an ultra-high frequency antenna buoy and transmits a micro-burst of radio energy to a Sat, which gives the subs position, course, heading, crew emails and various situation reports that would include contacts of interest or unusual occurrences that they think they should phone in. A large underwater explosion would probably qualify as an unusual occurrence.

Tell the time and place you heard the noise and you’ve got a good idea of that sub’s position. We can assume from the time the ACARS pings were being logged that this would have been early daylight of March 8th. That “indication” was considered so credible that the Navy diverted the USS Kidd to the area at high speed to investigate an area that was probably more narrowed down for it by the Pentagon.


So..... did it crash, is it in Diego, or did those pesky feckin aliens take them??
Imagine all that anal probing going on right now.... :rolleyes::lol:

I've read that blog as well - the one thing he doesn't mention is that at speed a plane hitting the water is like hitting concrete how deep underwater would a plane go? A depth charge explodes under the water the shock wave travels in all directions. A fair amount of the force from the plane hitting the sea must have been directed above the surface.

Regardless no one knows where it crashed or the number and location of submarines in that area at the time.

[YellowDog]

A plane travelling at speed would hit the 'concrete like' water and break up in the thousands of pieces on the surface. As there would have been little or no fuel left, the supposed explosion may not have occurred.

[scrivy]

the supposed explosion may not have occurred.

Haven't you watched Hollywood movies....?? Everything explodes..... :facepalm::shutup::blink:

[YellowDog]

Haven't you watched Hollywood movies....?? Everything explodes..... :facepalm::shutup::blink:

AND the 911 explosions were far better than any Hollywood movie.

They must have had a Huuuuuuuge budget for that one AND it was performed in front of a live audience :yes:

[scrivy]

AND the 911 explosions were far better than any Hollywood movie.

They must have had a Huuuuuuuge budget for that one AND it was performed in front of a live audience :yes:

True that...
But it would have been more believable if they had of released just one of the 85 CCTV cameras that covered the plane trajectory that flew into the Pentagon.... then we'd know it was a plane and not a cruise missile....:niceone:

Oh, and here's their movie with a smaller budget....... http://www.operationterror.com/

:shutup::innocent::facepalm::shit::no::shifty:

[Banditbandit]

Haven't you watched Hollywood movies....?? Everything explodes..... :facepalm::shutup::blink:

Yeah .. Alien technology can explode anything ...

'T'was aliens I tell ya ..

[rickstv]

Yeah .. Alien technology can explode anything ...

'T'was aliens I tell ya ..

No way was it aliens. It was the Dingo silly.:no:

[scrivy]

And I'm not sure I want to know what's being shoved up the arses at Malaysian Airlines !!!

I had a friend on that flight.... he smuggled out a recording he made on his samsung phone...... he hid it up his ass too...... He said he was blind-drunk too.....

The noises I can hear on the recording are of aliens doing things in his ass - that's why they're so clear on his phones microphone..... his phone was still up there...... :shutup::blink::shit:

Feckin Aliens and their cloaking technology......
295590

[R650R]

I just had a though... 300 odd passengers, most with cellphones and laptops. All those lithium ion batterys must be succumbing to the depth and seawater now and be exploding like mini depth charges...

With those two subs going to the area to search, whats the bet a few ships go missing if they get to close to the truth???

[YellowDog]

I just had a though... 300 odd passengers, most with cellphones and laptops. All those lithium ion batterys must be succumbing to the depth and seawater now and be exploding like mini depth charges...

With those two subs going to the area to search, whats the bet a few ships go missing if they get to close to the truth???

It may have been an alien controlled waterproof I-Phone that caused all of this :gob:

[Berries]

I just had a though... 300 odd passengers, most with cellphones and laptops. All those lithium ion batterys must be succumbing to the depth and seawater now and be exploding like mini depth charges...

With those two subs going to the area to search, whats the bet a few ships go missing if they get to close to the truth???
You are assuming that the plane is underwater.

[Scouse]

fukem juuuuuuws. Knew it.
Itsa wonder it wasnt "hijacked by ukranians" and flown into buildings for extra media mileage.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/p403x403/10167988_10152029329797934_145658957_n.jpg

[Banditbandit]

No way was it aliens. It was the Dingo silly.:no:

I don't believe that a dingo could drag a large plane into the undergrowth and eat it ... Planes are not Azaria-flavoured you know ..

Unless ... hang on ... Unless the dingo was inhabited by the soul of an evil alien ...

[scrivy]

Unless ... hang on ... Unless the dingo was inhabited by the soul of an evil alien ...

Dingo is almost like Diego - Only saying..... :lol:

[gjm]

Dingo is almost like Diego - Only saying..... :lol:

It's too close to just be a coincidence!

[scrivy]

It's too close to just be a coincidence!

I did hear the Malaysian Prime Minister say "The Diego's stolen my baby"... mind you, I did find it hard to understand his speech - it could possibly have been Dingo??? :rolleyes:

[Banditbandit]

Maybe he said the daigo stole his baby (meaning his aeroplane ...)

[gjm]

Maybe he said the daigo stole his baby (meaning his aeroplane ...)

Or does he think the hijacker was Scandinavian? "The Dane gone stole my baby..."

[ellipsis]

...'ere ya go scrivy...

MUST GO VIRAL. READ ALL OF THE FACTS BELOW LINK: Flight MH370 Co-ordinates to a remote island taken by a confirmed passenger of Malaysian Flight 370 named Philip Wood reveal what is known as a small island called Diego Garcia. The co-ordinates came from Philip's cellphone when he uploaded a black photo with a message claiming he himself is being held prisoner by unknown military.

iPhone 5 co-ordinates: EXIF: LAT: 7deg 18′ 58.309″ South ; LONG: 72deg 25′ 35.559″

Converted co-ordinates: LAT: -7.316197 ; LONG: 72.426544

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/0...-diego-garcia/

**SPREAD THESE FACTS**

UNREPORTED FACTS REGARDING Flight MH370 and the United States Military Base Diego Garcia:

* Diego Garcia is a US Military island base in the Indian Ocean
* Diego Garcia has never been mentioned to the public
* Diego Garcia has a fully operational runway and Airport
* Diego Garcia is 2,142 miles from Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia)
* The island was leased by Britain in 1966. It is due for renewal in 2014
* Diego Garcia flight co-ordinates were logged into the renown Pilot's Flight Plan Simulator
* The pilot's flight simulator has 'remote take-over' capabilities
* The data from the pilot's flight simulator has now been erased
* Flight MH370 was under 'suspicious cargo' surveillance by the GRU (Russian Main Intelligence)
* 20 of the passengers work for a company which specializes in futuristic warfare and technology
* Australian Military Radar Base: The Jindalee Operational Radar Network has the capabilities of detecting movements within a radius of 37,000km
* Malaysian authorities have pleaded with the US and Australia to release to them information from their top secret radar bases in Australia
* Island residents of the Maldives (647 miles north of Diego Garcia) reported seeing a huge low flying aircraft heading SOUTH which is the direction of Diego Garcia at 6.15am the morning after it 'disappeared' from radar
* The time of departure from Kuala Lumpur to the time of the plane's sighting is accurate
* The National Maldives Defence Force dismissed these eye witness accounts on the premise of no radar detection
* It is public knowledge that flight MH370 was not detectable, or had lost signal to radar
* Almost every member of the public had no idea there was an island in the Indian Ocean housing a US Military base and Airport before the above post was shared
* Diego Garcia has been completely dismissed from the International search, and completely dismissed from public investigative speculation

Just some more news articles related to the facts in this story if your interested ...

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight...

http://www.express.co.uk/.../Malaysian-plane-20-on-board...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=diego%20garcia%20island...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../US-officials-convinced-two...

http://intellihub.com/rothschild-owned-blackstone-group.../




...this must surely prove that it's hidden under a tarp at Drago Guzzia...it has the hallmarks of a well planned SMERSH op...:wait:

[R650R]

You are assuming that the plane is underwater.

Well assuming also that their lie about finding wreckage is true and their lie about it being in that part of the ocean where it is rough seas also...

BTW for that cut and paste about phone story, contains few errors so it can be easily discredited just like that other debunk site with sub story.
There's nothing secret about Diego, been mentioned in media plenty of times before this disaster, maybe just badly written up in that article.

[husaberg]

I so love a good conspiracy as much as the next foil hat wearing nutter........ but wtf the US have a massive sub and surface and airforce base and likely a detention facility as well sitting in the middle of the Indian ocean,
one that has been used for launching bomber air raids during various middle east peace expeditions;)
Yet they have not been able to track where this rather large plane went even though it was not on a normal flight path seems a bit odd, But then again when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour the yanks thought it was a flock of birds ....


Strategic Air Command began deploying Boeing B-52 Stratofortress bombers and aerial refueling aircraft to the newly completed airfield facilities in 1987.[34]

Following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in August 1990, three ships of COMPSRON 2 sortied, delivering a Marine Expeditionary Brigade to Saudi Arabia for participation in the Gulf War. Other COMPSRON 2 ships offloaded the munitions, bombs, and fuel on Diego Garcia that were required for the American bomber fleet that deployed to airfield. Subsequently, B-52G bombers flew more than 200 17-hour bombing missions over 44 days and dropped more than 800,000 short tons (730,000,000 kg) of bombs on Iraqi forces in Iraq and Kuwait. One of the B-52s crashed from mechanical failures just north of the island with the loss of three of its six-man crew.[34]

Beginning on 7 October 2001, the United States again commenced military operations from Diego Garcia using B-1, B-2, and B-52 bombers to attack enemy targets in Afghanistan following the attacks on New York City and the Pentagon. A B-1 bomber was lost on 12 December 2001 to mechanical failures just after take off from the island, but the crew survived and was rescued by the USS Russell (DDG-59).[35] Combat operations resumed in the spring of 2003, with MPSRON TWO sortieing to the Persian Gulf for Operation Iraqi Freedom, and bombing operations began again, this time against Iraq.[36] Bomber operations ceased from Diego Garcia on 15 August 2006.[37]

[YellowDog]

I so love a good conspiracy as much as the next foil hat wearing nutter........ but wtf the US have a massive sub and surface and airforce base and likely a detention facility as well sitting in the middle of the Indian ocean,
one that has been used for launching bomber air raids during various middle east peace expeditions;)
Yet they have not been able to track where this rather large plane went even though it was not on a normal flight path seems a bit odd, But then again when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour the yanks thought it was a flock of birds ....

Did someone say 'Flock of Seagulls'?

<iframe width="720" height="485" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/BJ7NVjZ-Eyg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[scrivy]

“As a whole, the RMAF currently possesses total radar coverage save for some gaps at certain height levels, details of which are classified. The Sistem Pertahanan Udara Nasional (SPUN-National Air Defence System) is said to be currently between stage one and two of its three stage development goals, with stage one being full coverage of Malaysian airspace, stage two being the full integration and networking of all armed forces radar coverage along with the Malaysian Department of Civil Aviation while the third and final stage would be the addition of satellite coverage, AEW&C aircraft and surface-to-air missile systems into the air defence network.”

With the vast budget that has been given to procure radar facilities through the years, there is no excuse for failing to trace MH 370. From the statement by the RMAF chief the day following MH370’s disappearance, RMAF RADAR DID TRACE MH370’S TURN BACK. Otherwise, on what evidence was RMAF chief General Tan Sri Rodzali Daud's statement that the military radars had detected a possible turn back of flight MH370 based upon?

But Malaysian military operators took no action even when their radar detected an unidentified aircraft traveling across the country! Now when we bear in mind that in 2011 Malaysia claimed that there were 2,058 incidents of airspace violations by Singapore’s air force since 2008, how could they miss one MH370 on 8 March 2014?

Apart from the millions spent on our radar systems, MH370’s erratic route should have activated our Sukhois and F18s to be scrambled to prove their worth. Unfortunately, they were idle when they were most needed.

It gets even more interesting...... a definite cover-up??:shutup:
Perfectly adequate radar, and no military intervention when the flight went awry..... when they have intervened in the past....:blink:

[FJRider]

But Malaysian military operators took no action even when their radar detected an unidentified aircraft traveling across the country! Now when we bear in mind that in 2011 Malaysia claimed that there were 2,058 incidents of airspace violations by Singapore’s air force since 2008, how could they miss one MH370 on 8 March 2014?



As I understand ... MH370 did not re-enter Malaysian airspace after leaving ... and most routes shown that it flew over Thailand/Burma (I forget the new name) If it was being followed on Radar ... it's origin would be known by the operators. And I doubt they would know it's intended destination/flight plan.

Singapore and Malaysia are at constant loggerheads regarding their own National security. BOTH expecting the other to invade them. Singapore ... because of it's size and financial wealth it generates. And Malaysia because of the natural resources it possesses ... AND free land space Singapore would (could .. ???) kill for ...

Wars have been started for less ...

[husaberg]

As I understand ... MH370 did not re-enter Malaysian airspace after leaving ... and most routes shown that it flew over Thailand/Burma (I forget the new name) If it was being followed on Radar ... it's origin would be known by the operators. And I doubt they would know it's intended destination/flight plan.

Singapore and Malaysia are at constant loggerheads regarding their own National security. BOTH expecting the other to invade them. Singapore ... because of it's size and financial wealth it generates. And Malaysia because of the natural resources it possesses ... AND free land space Singapore would (could .. ???) kill for ...

Wars have been started for less ...
I bet they are both scared shitless of Indonesia.
Assuming it did go down past Aussie, how come no one noticed? i doubt it is a common flight path for any plane.

[FJRider]

I bet they are both scared shitless of Indonesia.
Assuming it did go down past Aussie, how come no one noticed? i doubt it is a common flight path for any plane.

Assumptions are the mother of all fuck-ups ...

Indonesia has the large population base ... but not that far advanced with the amount of Hi-tech gear to pose a real and sustained threat.

Both are Muslim ... the real threat is seen to the North East.

[husaberg]

Assumptions are the mother of all fuck-ups ...

Indonesia has the large population base ... but not that far advanced with the amount of Hi-tech gear to pose a real and sustained threat.

Both are Muslim ... the real threat is seen to the North East.

Yeah that's right all religions that are the same get on;)

But it still doesn't compute why the Aussie defenses and air control missed it?
Like i said it seem like a rather odd flight path and it was hardly a Cessna

[scrivy]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/9909646/Ship-detects-ping-in-search-for-MH370

They heard a 'ping' on their boat?? So, did they hear a Chan, Wong, Ching?? :facepalm:

[scrivy]

http://conservativeread.com/the-mh370-conspiracy-are-the-israelis-planning-another-9-11-using-the-missing-boeing-777/#.U0B5Jxz4srI

Hmmm.... another False Flag anyone??? :shifty::shutup::shit::facepalm:

[FJRider]

Yeah that's right all religions that are the same get on;)

I think Malaysian feeling about Indonesia is more of mistrust than fear. The Muslim hardliners in Indonesia tend to embarrass the Malaysian Muslim based Government.


But it still doesn't compute why the Aussie defenses and air control missed it?
Like i said it seem like a rather odd flight path and it was hardly a Cessna

They haven't found the plane yet (with any degree of certainty) ... so it's hard to say who missed it ... (or why)

[husaberg]

I think Malaysian feeling about Indonesia is more of mistrust than fear. The Muslim hardliners in Indonesia tend to embarrass the Malaysian Muslim based Government.



They haven't found the plane yet (with any degree of certainty) ... so it's hard to say who missed it ... (or why)


But it still doesn't compute why the Aussie defenses and air control missed it?
Like i said it seem like a rather odd flight path and it was hardly a Cessna
Seem................ i used Seem........


Assuming it did go down past Aussie, how come no one noticed? i doubt it is a common flight path for any plane.
I also used assuming it did go down ........
PS it looks like air traffic control relies on the transponder signature for location, so i guess with the transponders turned off.
To civilian radar it would be invisible............
The battery in the blackbox radar would also be near exhausted by now..............

[YellowDog]

Where have you guys been?

There's now a hopeful pulse: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8825744/pulse-signal-detected-in-plane-search

They should send the former Italian prime minister down there. He'll faaark anything with a pulse :yes:

[oneofsix]

Where have you guys been?

There's now a hopeful pulse: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8825744/pulse-signal-detected-in-plane-search

They should send the former Italian prime minister down there. He'll faaark anything with a pulse :yes:

The forking chinese again. How the hell are you meant to have a good covert operation when the friggin chinese keep buttin in with their own satellites and undersea search ships :doh: The yanks had just set it up so they looked like they were trying the hardest, lending their Aussie mates a ping detector ship, pity it can only search at a snails pace, and then along come the chinks and say "hey we have found something" - again. :facepalm:

:corn:

[husaberg]

They should send the former Italian prime minister down there. He'll faaark anything with a pulse :yes:

I fairness to the Italian poonhound I would be still keen if she had only recently departed

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00437/131035612__437501b.jpg

[awa355]

The forking chinese again. How the hell are you meant to have a good covert operation when the friggin chinese keep buttin in with their own satellites and undersea search ships :doh: The yanks had just set it up so they looked like they were trying the hardest, lending their Aussie mates a ping detector ship, pity it can only search at a snails pace, and then along come the chinks and say "hey we have found something" - again. :facepalm:

:corn:

The chinks would probably say that anyway. :shutup::shutup:

[Swoop]

iPhone 5 co-ordinates: LAT: 7deg 18′ 58.309″ South ; LONG: 72deg 25′ 35.559″
An iphone? Those things can't even tell you where you are in a built up city... well unless you phone google maps and ask for better location information! :rofl:

[scrivy]

http://putlocker.bz/watch-twa-flight-800-online-free-putlocker.html

Interesting movie......
Don't think it happened in this case tough...........

[Woodman]

How do we know that the plane wasn't landed gently like the one on the Hudson river, and then gently sunk leaving no debris.

[carbonhed]

How do we know that the plane wasn't landed gently like the one on the Hudson river, and then gently sunk leaving no debris.

Because oceans have waves.

[Woodman]

Because oceans have waves.

Of course waves:brick:, forgot about those enormous things that never get small.

It must have been a Chinese/American/Alien conspiracy then:yawn:. As you were.

[awa355]

Because oceans have waves.

418 posts and some buggar has to bring up WAVES .
:brick:

Sorry, wong kinda wave,

[oldrider]

I discovered a weak pulse in bed this morning but nobody was interested in that either! :cry::violin: (John must try harder!)

[scrivy]

News just in:
A Diego Garcia Colonel has revealed that a US C-130 dropped the Black boxes from MH370 into the suspected crash area of the Indian Ocean.

More news to follow!!

[scrivy]

Fuck that guy above ^^^ is a lying c@nt!!!

It was Aliens - it's been proven.....

The Chinese found lots of anal probes floating in the Indian Ocean....

[YellowDog]

News just in:
A Diego Garcia Colonel has revealed that a US C-130 dropped the Black boxes from MH370 into the suspected crash area of the Indian Ocean.

More news to follow!!

Now they are saying that the 'about a month' battery life expectation for the black box pinging device was referring to a non-leap year February.

The pings have hence stopped :shit:

[Berries]

The Chinese found lots of anal probes floating in the Indian Ocean....
I find it quite offensive that you refer to refugees in that way.

[avgas]

So Americans can track everything.....unless its a Boeing 747-777........seriously?

[scrivy]

The pings have hence stopped :shit:

The pings were coming from a nuclear sub........ to divert peoples attention away from D.... G......
:eek5::lol:

[Banditbandit]

A Diego Garcia

Is he, like, related to Jerry Garcia ??? Or is that one alien probe too many???

[Banditbandit]

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSk6z2o5VhPsf-yA8N5rY7o10MytZhCzmwfDg4O4992NhgWaKSD

[carbonhed]

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSk6z2o5VhPsf-yA8N5rY7o10MytZhCzmwfDg4O4992NhgWaKSD

Dude... the internet's primary function is to allow clueless fuckwits to network with similarly clueless fuckwits and thereby find transcendence. All you can do is sit back and watch.

[Tazz]

[]https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSk6z2o5VhPsf-yA8N5rY7o10MytZhCzmwfDg4O4992NhgWaKSD[/IMG]

pffffft :p

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/165052-Watch-the-news-B777-missing?p=1130693391#post1130693391

[Robbo]

Searchers for the missing Malaysian airliner have found the Wings.......

But..

Mr and Mrs Wing have no idea where the plane is though......:msn-wink:

[scrivy]

Maybe the passengers should have drunk more Red Bull??
They'd have enough wings to keep the 777 in the air......296013

[R650R]

Now they are saying that the 'about a month' battery life expectation for the black box pinging device was referring to a non-leap year February.

The pings have hence stopped :shit:

That was the original one. This one will be a cloned one made for the job and they will switch it off once they have enough pings for their cover story.
Military buffs might remember the old Sosus listening system in the atlantic from cold war. That was years ago.
Its incomprehensible to think in todays modern world that there isn't something in that region either fixed or mobile that would have heard the pings as soon as they started.
Even our navy has antisub frigates the Oz must have a few. With the Anti Somali pirate ops there must be plenty of various naval ships transiting indian ocean also...

[avgas]

Announcing RNZAF's new stealth bomber.
http://cbswomc2.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/black777.jpg?w=615&h=347&crop=1
Can fly directly near countries over water for 5+ hours and be undetectable by radar.

Also destroys 100 level buildings perfectly in suicide runs.

[scrivy]

Still got me fucked, that in todays techno world, why can't the 'Black Box' info be streamed live to either, Boeing/Airbus or the H/O of the Airline?
With that, why can't a stream of a cockpit camera do the same??

There'd be no need to search for the fucking things!! It would probably cost less than this one MH370 search!!

[YellowDog]

Still got me fucked, that in todays techno world, why can't the 'Black Box' info be streamed live to either, Boeing/Airbus or the H/O of the Airline?
With that, why can't a stream of a cockpit camera do the same??

There'd be no need to search for the fucking things!! It would probably cost less than this one MH370 search!!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/166018-US-Stealth-Project-Cancelled!?p=1130704848#post1130704848

[scrivy]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/166018-US-Stealth-Project-Cancelled!?p=1130704848#post1130704848

LOL!!

Good 'ol Yanks....

[Katman]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/shock-claim-flight-370-diego-garcia-per-gps-data/#JeSJTsCZsMuZ7LCI.01

[R650R]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/shock-claim-flight-370-diego-garcia-per-gps-data/#JeSJTsCZsMuZ7LCI.01

Already read about that on another site, seems quite plausible.
Especially as the GPS coordinates are not the exact ones you would get the easy way via google maps and typing in the name, but further down the island where the plane or prisoners could be detained in building etc...
Also same site the guy used image software to fully pull the exposure. Even in the dark a digital camera will still record some differences in shadows etc. The noisy as hell final image reveals an outline of what could be a hooded figure taking a selfie in a dark cell.


Still got me fucked, that in todays techno world, why can't the 'Black Box' info be streamed live to either, Boeing/Airbus or the H/O of the Airline?
With that, why can't a stream of a cockpit camera do the same??

There'd be no need to search for the fucking things!! It would probably cost less than this one MH370 search!!

They were kinda, via the LIVE monitoring of the leased Rolls Royce engines in that bird. Even trucking companies have live monitoring of GPS, which leads to funny stuff when they ring up a driver to complain about him doing XXXkm/h but said he HAS to be in Gisborne by .......
The media story of the Rolls Royce satellite handshake is a bluff to end the story. Those LEASED engines are worth megabucks and would be auto monitored 24/7 and emails/txt alerts instantly to right people if fuel burn/rpms/run time/fuel consumption outside normal parameters etc

[Tigadee]

I bet they are both scared shitless of Indonesia.

You've hit the nail right on the head.

Singapore is sandwiched between two large Islamic countries: One moderate and one potentially radical and with a huge population.

That is why Singapore was more than quick to offer a $1 bil economic relief package to Indonesia when the Asian Currency Crisis started in 1997.... while arming themselves with 20 AH-64 Apaches and Leopard 2 MBTs (182 + 30 spare), and are looking at the purchase of likely two squadrons of F-35s to supplement their existing air fleet of F-16 Fighting Falcons and F-15 Strike Eagles.
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Peace_00fb0c_702678.jpg

[YellowDog]

Already read about that on another site, seems quite plausible.
Especially as the GPS coordinates are not the exact ones you would get the easy way via google maps and typing in the name, but further down the island where the plane or prisoners could be detained in building etc...
Also same site the guy used image software to fully pull the exposure. Even in the dark a digital camera will still record some differences in shadows etc. The noisy as hell final image reveals an outline of what could be a hooded figure taking a selfie in a dark cell.



They were kinda, via the LIVE monitoring of the leased Rolls Royce engines in that bird. Even trucking companies have live monitoring of GPS, which leads to funny stuff when they ring up a driver to complain about him doing XXXkm/h but said he HAS to be in Gisborne by .......
The media story of the Rolls Royce satellite handshake is a bluff to end the story. Those LEASED engines are worth megabucks and would be auto monitored 24/7 and emails/txt alerts instantly to right people if fuel burn/rpms/run time/fuel consumption outside normal parameters etc

Yeah.... that's right. He may have had a hood on, but we all know it's really Captain Hook.

Did you see the one after Peter Pan got Tinkerbell to unlock the chains?

All true and all perfectly plausible.

I was also amazed how the Diego Garcia cell phone tower offers an, unmonitored or restricted, full service, including data, with no Roaming ripp-off charges.

No wonder they are all happy to stay there, living happily ever after :clap:

[R650R]

I was also amazed how the Diego Garcia cell phone tower offers an, unmonitored or restricted, full service, including data, with no Roaming ripp-off charges.

No wonder they are all happy to stay there, living happily ever after :clap:

Well with 1500 civilian employees and contractors involved in various base operations it probably just turns into a logistics head ache to limit it.
You could have a B1b waiting to takeoff but the Lockheed contractor can't finish the software install on the flight computer because he can't phone home and get the software authentication key.
Mr Woods was IBM so he be a company phone that wont be billed till next month anyway :)
My truck and personal phone still worked fine when I was delivering at USAFE Lakenheath and Mildenhall.

[jonbuoy]

And people say smoking weed is harmless......

10 days afterwards with an iPhone? He must have smuggled charger up his arse too. GPS doesn't work indoors I guess he must have a good size window in his cell? If he managed to pull the phone out of his ass why not take the bag off his head. Try using a touch phone with a bag over your head/blindfolded.

And lastly No doubt Diego Garcia has its own cellphone tower with a sattelite uplink controlled by DG! I don't think Vodafone will have been able to put a tower there.

[awa355]

Describing the size of ocean within the radius of the ' pings'

" Matthews said the detections indicate the beacon is within about a 20-kilometer radius, equal to a 1,300-square-kilometer chunk of the ocean floor.

That's like trying to find a desktop computer in a city the size of Los Angeles and would take the sub about six weeks to two months to canvass. So it makes more sense to continue using the ping locator to zero in on a more precise location, Matthews said. "

[R650R]

And people say smoking weed is harmless......

10 days afterwards with an iPhone? He must have smuggled charger up his arse too. GPS doesn't work indoors

Never touched the stuff, all my ramblings are completely stone cold sober and straight... LOL
The story is the guy was involved in advanced voice activation phone systems and you can properly turn the things off if you know what you are doing and don't have too many rubbish apps installed.
GPS does work indoors, the real problem is the weak signals from satellites are easily overwhelmed by electrical noise sources/computers etc.

Well I'm picking in about 4 days well see some grainy underwater footage worthy of the the thunderbirds tv show that will alledgedly show wreckage on the floor of the ocean but will prob be some rollercoaster parts in a disused algae filled swimming pool.

[jonbuoy]

Never touched the stuff, all my ramblings are completely stone cold sober and straight... LOL
The story is the guy was involved in advanced voice activation phone systems and you can properly turn the things off if you know what you are doing and don't have too many rubbish apps installed.
GPS does work indoors, the real problem is the weak signals from satellites are easily overwhelmed by electrical noise sources/computers etc.

Well I'm picking in about 4 days well see some grainy underwater footage worthy of the the thunderbirds tv show that will alledgedly show wreckage on the floor of the ocean but will prob be some rollercoaster parts in a disused algae filled swimming pool.

Define indoors - in a wooden house with plenty of windows yes you can pick something up. In any substantial concrete/brick building (prison) with small/no windows the signals are non existent.

So the story is he somehow managed to nip to the toilet before they took everyones cellphone un-installed all his power hungry apps, wedged the phone up his arse (ouch!) waited 10 days for the right moment - presumably removing the iphone periodically to take a shit before snapping a quick selfie but not taking the time to give further information. Then the recipient of the picture immediately released it to the press putting the other guys life in danger and destroying any chance of further contact. And that´s assuming that diego garcia let him connect to their cellphone or wifi network - you would think with a situation like that the first thing they would do is black out all non essential communications - there are up to 3000 civilian/military personnel working there - wouldn't want any of them sending reports now would they.

[Maha]

WTF? If they are looking for a Ping, they need to in China, there has to millions of them there.

[Murray]

WTF? If they are looking for a Ping, they need to in China, there has to millions of them there.

Get back to your check ins and making beds???

Hows it going?? Not an easy business!!!!

[awa355]

WTF? If they are looking for a Ping, they need to in China, there has to millions of them there.


I still say " Aliens " :angry::angry:

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/Untitledpicture-9.png

[Woodman]

[QUOTE=jonbuoy;1130705914- there are up to 3000 civilian/military personnel working there - wouldn't want any of them sending reports now would they.[/QUOTE]

This.

3000 people either enlisted or not must know that a 777 landed there at some stage. :facepalm:

Or did they send them all on a field trip that day, or maybe drugged them all, or used a mind clearing device like on "Men in Black"

[mashman]

This.

3000 people either enlisted or not must know that a 777 landed there at some stage. :facepalm:

Or did they send them all on a field trip that day, or maybe drugged them all, or used a mind clearing device like on "Men in Black"

You mean every plane that flies into a military base is greeted by 3000 plane spotters? They've got nothing better to do?

[mashman]

Looking for a machine that goes Ping?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc

[Woodman]

You mean every plane that flies into a military base is greeted by 3000 plane spotters? They've got nothing better to do?

Fair call, :bleh: but how would the baddies know would have seen it or not? way too many holes in this theory.

[scrivy]

3000 people either enlisted or not must know that a 777 landed there at some stage. :facepalm:

Or did they send them all on a field trip that day, or maybe drugged them all, or used a mind clearing device like on "Men in Black"

Just like all the people that fabricated the 9/11 hoax..... way too many of them..... :shutup::facepalm::innocent::crazy::eek5::shit::bl ink:

Still doesn't mean it didn't happen to deceive the public.... :love:

[R650R]

Remember the TV comedy series Allo Allo about the resistance, everything is on a Need to Know basis.
And the military is a bit like fight club, except they call talking about fight club treason and no one wants to relocate to gitmo...
Or they could have run an attack drill and have all unnecessary personal in bomb shelters etc...

[YellowDog]

Hopes of recovering the aircraft's black box rose significantly in the past week after Australian vessel Ocean Shield detected four signals believed to have come from MH370's all-important flight recorder.

However, the Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC) said on Saturday morning that no new signals had been detected in the past 24 hours.

Nine military aircraft, one civil aircraft and 14 ships will continue the hunt for MH370 on Saturday, visually searching an area measuring 41,393 square kilometres about 2300 kilometres northwest of Perth, the JACC said.

[mashman]

Fair call, :bleh: but how would the baddies know would have seen it or not? way too many holes in this theory.

Why would the baddies care? All you'd have to do is land the plane at night and then laugh at anyone that says it was the missing plane. Why would that be so hard to do?

[Woodman]

Why would the baddies care? All you'd have to do is land the plane at night and then laugh at anyone that says it was the missing plane. Why would that be so hard to do?

And that is why the baddies like TFWs.

Like it or not, you nutbars are their greatest allie.(ally, alli wtf ever)

[Robbo]

It is playing games with us.:lol:

[mashman]

And that is why the baddies like TFWs.

Like it or not, you nutbars are their greatest allie.(ally, alli wtf ever)

They do indeed. However they prefer us to be sheeple as they wouldn't have to be so careful then.

True... as much of a double edged as it is it means that we'll never forget and we'll keep on lookin and ya never know, someday we may find out some truth. Much better than ignoring it and letting them drive humanity into an early grave. :rofl: exactly how pissed are you.

[scrivy]

It is playing games with us.:lol:

FFS!! Now the co-pilots phone was turned on.... why wasn't that brought up earlier... only been 1 month.... :rolleyes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603075/Co-pilot-missing-flight-MH370-desperate-call-mobile-phone-AFTER-aircraft-lost-normal-communication-ground.html

[mashman]

FFS!! Now the co-pilots phone was turned on.... why wasn't that brought up earlier... only been 1 month.... :rolleyes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603075/Co-pilot-missing-flight-MH370-desperate-call-mobile-phone-AFTER-aircraft-lost-normal-communication-ground.html

I guess the accusations against the pilot didn't fly.

[YellowDog]

FFS!! Now the co-pilots phone was turned on.... why wasn't that brought up earlier... only been 1 month.... :rolleyes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603075/Co-pilot-missing-flight-MH370-desperate-call-mobile-phone-AFTER-aircraft-lost-normal-communication-ground.html

Ah... The Daily Mail.... I highly credible source of news facts and information :no:

[scrivy]

Ah... The Daily Mail.... I highly credible source of news facts and information :no:

Also reported on Reuters, The Independent, NZ Herald, The Guardian, NYDailynews, The Telegraph....... :bleh:

[YellowDog]

Also reported on Reuters, The Independent, NZ Herald, The Guardian, NYDailynews, The Telegraph....... :bleh:

That just shows that there are morons at Reuters, The Independent, NZ Herald, The Guardian, NYDailynews, The Telegraph that read the Daily Mail.

Much like in the USA, the UK's media is so heavily censored that they just release stories to suit other motives.

If it aint on Aljazeera, it didn't happen :lol:

[mashman]

That just shows that there are morons at Reuters, The Independent, NZ Herald, The Guardian, NYDailynews, The Telegraph that read the Daily Mail.

Much like in the USA, the UK's media is so heavily censored that they just release stories to suit other motives.

If it aint on Aljazeera, it didn't happen :lol:

:killingme .... must spread etc...

[avgas]

..... before snapping a quick selfie but not taking the time to give further information.......
Well technically the photo was black - how we not know its the inside of his colon :laugh:

Also after looking at an iphone today, all I can say is good god - how would you shove that up there?
Oh god someone is going to scour the internet to find video/pics of someone doing it to post here aren't they????? :puke:

[husaberg]

seeing as you assed
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f225/iphone-up-arse-foiled-when-started-ringing-125875/

[SMOKEU]

seeing as you assed


That's fucking crazy! :sick: Reminds me of the porn video of a chick shoving a Nokia phone up her pussy.

[Woodman]

seeing as you assed
]


Nasty.


Sent from my I-phone using shitty fingers

[husaberg]

Nasty.


Sent from my I-phone using shitty fingers

Pics or it never happened................

[Tazz]

Pics or it never happened................


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROqj2NdkiqW1iw4fG0HURtfSXtIKrg9 M8WR98cBCX0Ifrlyp81

(It's only an esophagus. Wasn't keen on Google image searching for anything else XD)

[husaberg]

(It's only an esophagus. Wasn't keen on Google image searching for anything else XD)

been there done both even done the 2 for one combo. hope they did the esophagus first:eek5:

[R650R]

Well technically the photo was black - how we not know its the inside of his colon :laugh:

Also after looking at an iphone today, all I can say is good god - how would you shove that up there?
Oh god someone is going to scour the internet to find video/pics of someone doing it to post here aren't they????? :puke:

Maybe it was just wedged between the cheeks, was an office worker, could have been obese etc... hence why gaurds wouldn't do thorough search LOL
Or maybe it was just the Bluetooth earpiece and the phones in his carry on luggage.

BTW note at the moment how in that Daily telegraph article they are making a big issue of whether or not the 'new' story of the co pilots cellphone call was possible but; after 911 to back up the boxcutter fable they categorically said cellphones from planes was workable (despite being in a giant faraday cage).
Wonder if they'll reel out footage of the 911 shanksville shootdown, sorry crash as the reason why there is no wreckage...

[jonbuoy]

Maybe it was just wedged between the cheeks, was an office worker, could have been obese etc... hence why gaurds wouldn't do thorough search LOL
Or maybe it was just the Bluetooth earpiece and the phones in his carry on luggage.

BTW note at the moment how in that Daily telegraph article they are making a big issue of whether or not the 'new' story of the co pilots cellphone call was possible but; after 911 to back up the boxcutter fable they categorically said cellphones from planes was workable (despite being in a giant faraday cage).
Wonder if they'll reel out footage of the 911 shanksville shootdown, sorry crash as the reason why there is no wreckage...

Faraday cage has nothing to do with blocking RF signals.

[YellowDog]

Maybe it was just wedged between the cheeks, was an office worker, could have been obese etc... hence why gaurds wouldn't do thorough search LOL
Or maybe it was just the Bluetooth earpiece and the phones in his carry on luggage.


He might have previously worked as a highly successful and now retired homosexual prostitute , which would mean there could well be sufficient room for said I-Phone with charger. Perhaps an I-Pad too :sweatdrop

And before anyone posts the actual photos and also a recording of the phone call itself, Malaysia has officially stated that the call did not happen: http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8829671/malaysia-says-no-mid-flight-call-on-mh370

Perhaps the charger cord got caught around the items making it near on impossible for this poor giant bucket arseholed person to remove the phone?

On the other hand, this theory could just be total bollox.

Aren't phones just so much smaller these days :yes:

[Berries]

And before anyone posts the actual photos and also a recording of the phone call itself, Malaysia has officially stated that the call did not happen:
And they have been on the ball since this started.

[pete376403]

BTW note at the moment how in that Daily telegraph article they are making a big issue of whether or not the 'new' story of the co pilots cellphone call was possible but; after 911 to back up the boxcutter fable they categorically said cellphones from planes was workable (despite being in a giant faraday cage). ...

In 1991 John Banks was fined $750 for answering a cell phone call during a commercial flight in NZ, so they worked ok in planes then.

[YellowDog]

And they have been on the ball since this started.

The official line is what counts. Evidence, facts, and proof mean nothing :no:

[jonbuoy]

Mobiles have always been able to work to some extent - the main reason no one uses them in the air is possible interferance. If you hold an older mobile phone next to a powered speaker while you make or recieve a call or send a message you can hear the interferance it causes. Imagine what would happen if the same level of interferance was induced on a feedback signal from a control surface or engine sensor. Lufthansa are allowing people to connect to their onboard roaming cell now so I guess they have enough evidence that control signals wont be affected by mobile calls.

[R650R]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=11237806

The missing Malaysia Airlines plane was "thrown around like a remote control drone" just after it lost contact with authorities in a bid to dodge radar, Malaysian military investigators believe.

Flight MH370, which disappeared more than a month ago en route to Beijing, is thought to have climbed to heights of 13,700m - 3000m above its normal altitude - before plummeting to just below 1500m.

The new lead in the investigation comes as the methodical search being carried out in the Indian Ocean continues amid fears that the jet's black box may have run out of battery.

The drastic manoeuvres which must have been taken for the plane's alitutude to change so suddenly suggest that the plane was deliberately trying to avoid radar signals and disappear, a source said.

Speaking to the Sunday Times, the source said: "It was being flown very low at very high speed. And it was being flown to avoid radar."


I'm always sceptical about any media article with unnamed sources these days, usually always turns out to be unsubstantiated. It implies they do have a record of the radar data then for some period. So thrown around like a fighter jet yet deemed a non threat...

http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/bitch-please-stealth-plane-lost-1131276.jpeg

[awa355]

I knew the Americans were behind this, see! they do have the technology :shit:

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/Untitledpicture-10.png

[mashman]

I knew the Americans were behind this, see! they do have the technology :shit:

FFS man, this is the 21st century. And we thought this was CGI

http://media4.onsugar.com/files/2012/05/18/2/192/1922507/d435a4f1878a88ee_avengers_sq.xxxlarge_0.jpg

[Tazz]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/10155573_710473625669714_8262057260762530051_n.jpg

[Jay GTI]

Faraday cage has nothing to do with blocking RF signals.

Yes they do. In fact there is most likely a Faraday cage in your kitchen, blocking the emission of electromagnet waves, otherwise known as radio waves.

A plane certainly isn't a Faraday cage however.

[scrivy]

Yes they do. In fact there is most likely a Faraday cage in your kitchen, blocking the emission of electromagnet waves, otherwise known as radio waves.

A plane certainly isn't a Faraday cage however.

A microwave and fridge......

or in your garage..... a car....

[jonbuoy]

Yes they do. In fact there is most likely a Faraday cage in your kitchen, blocking the emission of electromagnet waves, otherwise known as radio waves.

A plane certainly isn't a Faraday cage however.

No that's not a farraday cage thats RF shielding. You can sit inside a farraday cage doesn't mean your shielded from RF in any way at all.

If an aircraft is struck by lightening the metal body forms a farraday cage- it protects the occupants the charge flows safely around the metal body and down to the ground. Just like a car.

[oneofsix]

No that's not a farraday cage thats RF shielding. You can sit inside a farraday cage doesn't mean your shielded from RF in any way at all.

If an aircraft is struck by lightening the metal body forms a farraday cage- it protects the occupants the charge flows safely around the metal body and down to the ground. Just like a car.


The reception or transmission of radio waves, a form of electromagnetic radiation, to or from an antenna within a Faraday cage is heavily attenuated or blocked by the cage.

A Faraday cage will block most RF, screened rooms used in RF testing are Faraday cages.

[Crasherfromwayback]

[url]: "It was being flown very low at very high speed. And it was being flown to avoid radar."
]

Bit slow with the pic Bro. Check post # 229

[jonbuoy]

A Faraday cage will block most RF, screened rooms used in RF testing are Faraday cages.

Except in an airplane, car..... Depends entirely on the cage. One thats designed for high voltage protection will do nothing to block high frequency RF. You can make an RF shielded building from fibreglass with a fine mesh laid up inside it - won´t do anything to protect you in a lightening strike as the mesh will not be able to carry the current of a lightening strike and it will jump to the nearest path to ground.

You can´t even drill a hole in a government RF shielded building without it being approved - the hole doesnt stop it forming a Farraday cage but it does stop it shielding all RF.

Bearing in mind - Faraday´s work was done in 1836 and radio waves werent "discovered" or detected for another 50 years.

[R650R]

Well even the official fable now admits the plane flew over the straights of Malacca which turn out to be the most pirate infested waters in the world.
Was watching this the other day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OsVDjOirP0 and the crew of the Emma Maersk set up high pressure fire hoses running down sides of boat and lock themselves inside for day or so whiel passing thru.
Now given how bad it is off coast of Somalia and the well publicised western military help, it stands that surely around the Malacca straights there must also be a significant presence, frigates with radar etc...

[FJRider]

Now given how bad it is off coast of Somalia and the well publicised western military help, it stands that surely around the Malacca straights there must also be a significant presence, frigates with radar etc...

Not actually the case .. two very different areas and the shipping patterns in either area are vastly different.
Somalia has no legitimate armed forces to guard against or stop piracy actions. Indonesia and Malaysia have some armed (offshore) patrol craft ... and can and sometimes do ... respond to calls for help. But that force can hardly be described as "Significant" (or even fast)

Hence ... International shipping use their own various piracy prevention methods .. as they are entitled to in international waters.

[Tigadee]

:yes: A lot fo military forces in the region look good on paper only (with the exception of the well-trained and -equipped Singapore armed forces).

[avgas]

Yes they do. In fact there is most likely a Faraday cage in your kitchen, blocking the emission of electromagnet waves, otherwise known as radio waves.

A plane certainly isn't a Faraday cage however.


No that's not a farraday cage thats RF shielding. You can sit inside a farraday cage doesn't mean your shielded from RF in any way at all.

If an aircraft is struck by lightening the metal body forms a farraday cage- it protects the occupants the charge flows safely around the metal body and down to the ground. Just like a car.


A Faraday cage will block most RF, screened rooms used in RF testing are Faraday cages.


Except in an airplane, car..... Depends entirely on the cage. One thats designed for high voltage protection will do nothing to block high frequency RF. You can make an RF shielded building from fibreglass with a fine mesh laid up inside it - won´t do anything to protect you in a lightening strike as the mesh will not be able to carry the current of a lightening strike and it will jump to the nearest path to ground.

You can´t even drill a hole in a government RF shielded building without it being approved - the hole doesnt stop it forming a Farraday cage but it does stop it shielding all RF.

Bearing in mind - Faraday´s work was done in 1836 and radio waves werent "discovered" or detected for another 50 years.

Some confusion here.
Faraday's work was on electromagnetic charge, not waves. He assumed that all charge went around not through. He is right to an extent. This is why SOME waves don't make it through (generally low freq). You can actually get waves through a faraday cage, with is reliant on antenna theory not charge theory.
So yes - cellphones work on planes fine because all you require to get cellphone signal is a small hole proportional to the carrier freq. @ 850 MHz that hole could be 0.0000000117 m big.

This is why you cellphone works even though though the antenna is on the inside of the case......and in some instances the case is metal.

[YellowDog]

I think you'll find that the reason cell phones work on planes is largely because the airline hijacks your mobile phone service and charges you their own special tariff for the privilege of being able to use your phone whilst aboard. Other than that, assuming the service was switched off, you are dependent upon being able to connect via a service providing tower. Fat/remote chance of that out in the Indian Ocean.

[ellipsis]

...we are only 45 minutes from Chch and the fucking things wont even work out here...

[scrivy]

...we are only 45 minutes from Chch and the fucking things wont even work out here...

Looks fine with ya neighbour...... :rolleyes:296193

[avgas]

I think you'll find that the reason cell phones work on planes is largely because the airline hijacks your mobile phone service and charges you their own special tariff for the privilege of being able to use your phone whilst aboard. Other than that, assuming the service was switched off, you are dependent upon being able to connect via a service providing tower. Fat/remote chance of that out in the Indian Ocean.
You are correct. DG? Who knows? :wait: