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Mo NZ
15th March 2014, 15:24
Replacing the water pump in my daughters Mitsi.
Seems I have to remove the bottom pulley to get the plastic cam cover off which partially covers the water pump..
1999 Lancer 1.5p.

I have an impact basher.
Left of Right thread.? Tips?

Akzle
15th March 2014, 15:40
err, mitsi lancer forum?

Most things will be normal rh thread. Some covers you can get off by lowering front of sump and pulling em straight fo'ard like. Dont know yours in particular.
Do redneck crank pulley nut removal. Leave a socket and handle on it and crank the engine.
Unless your socket set is shit. In which case go and find a man to do it because its no job for you.
Because shortly after you want a balance and or bearing puller. Or a couple of crowbars if youre black.
Then youre into it.

Probably do the belt and idler while youre in there.

caseye
15th March 2014, 15:45
There's one born every minute, Aye!
Butt as is so often the case of late, he's right.
Hadn't thought of the socket and handle before, must pass that one on to the mec for the race car.
Good luck with the mitsi mate.

Laava
15th March 2014, 15:50
This any help?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBaVA4Xh8-g&sns=em

Akzle
15th March 2014, 15:50
There's one born every minute, Aye!
Butt as is so often the case of late, he's right.
Hadn't thought of the socket and handle before, must pass that one on to the mec for the race car.
Good luck with the mitsi mate.

i cringed when i heard it first. But my ratchets and breakers have rubber/plastic handles, did it once, none of my predictions of doom happened.
converted.

Mo NZ
15th March 2014, 15:51
Its the lower pulley for the power steering unit. Seems to be bolted to the end of the ( edit Crank not cam shaft ) . Have to remove the plastic cam belt cover to get to the rest of the water pump mounting bolts.
Might try the impact wrench.

Mo NZ
15th March 2014, 15:56
Cheers laava.
viewing video

Akzle
15th March 2014, 15:59
Its the lower pulley for the power steering unit. Seems to be bolted to the end of the Cam shaft. Have to remove the plastic cam belt cover to get to the rest of the water pump mounting bolts.
Might try the impact wrench.

p/steer driven off cam shaft??
I dun thinkso.

Mo NZ
15th March 2014, 16:07
Nah. Cam belt cover. Lower pulley. Must be the crank driven.

Mo NZ
15th March 2014, 16:14
The video doesn't seem to show the pulley removal. Different but similar engine.
I will have a go tomorrow with my basha type impact wrench tomorrow.
Going to be pissing down it seems.

Thanks .

The Reibz
15th March 2014, 16:41
Pretty sure you are talking about the HARMONIC BALLANCER on the CRANKSHAFT.

Akzle
15th March 2014, 16:48
Pretty sure you are talking about the HARMONIC BALLANCER on the CRANKSHAFT.

fuck away with your properspeak.
Hes got a basha driver.

Drew
15th March 2014, 16:48
Reassemble it so you can turn the motor over with the key.

Put a grunty 1/2 inch strong arm in the hole made for it on the crank. Turn it so its up against something solid, then turn the key to start. It'll wind that bolt right out.

You're welcome.

This is not a joke. It works, it doesn't damage stuff, and it's free.

Woodman
15th March 2014, 16:53
Yeah, using a strong bar and the starter is the oldest trick in the book.

BTW a lot of the plastic cam covers can be pulled off with the front pulley in place. The hole is open at the bottom and butts up against the inner front cover. Check first.

Drew
15th March 2014, 17:10
Yeah, using a strong bar and the starter is the oldest trick in the book.

BTW a lot of the plastic cam covers can be pulled off with the front pulley in place. The hole is open at the bottom and butts up against the inner front cover. Check first.Had to take it off on every Mitsi I've ever worked on...and that's more than care to think about.

unstuck
15th March 2014, 17:20
Still going to need a puller to get the sucker off though, betya.:yes:

Mo NZ
16th March 2014, 07:16
I had a look at this.
http://www.fixya.com/tags/harmonic_balancer_remove_replace/cars/mitsubishi/lancer.
Some good info in that.
Also found out, confirmed counter clockwise to remove.
!30 lbs of torque.
and I wish I had a rattle gun.

And yes its the "Harmonic Balancer", not apparently a lower double pulley.

I will spin the starter and check its going the right direction and maybe follow Drew's suggestion.

Mo NZ
16th March 2014, 08:28
Its off. Took a couple of taps onto the subframe. Then wooosh. It spun right off as Drew said. Shot out of the shed over the concrete and under up under the Ute.

Drew
16th March 2014, 08:30
Still going to need a puller to get the sucker off though, betya.:yes:They have always come off by hand for me. They're not a tapered shaft, so don't pull too hard and wiggle ever so slightly to get it started.


Its off. Took a couple of taps onto the subframe. Then wooosh. It spun right off as Drew said. Shot out of the shed over the concrete and under up under the Ute.
Good news. Though as soon as the motor starts turning, let the key go next time.

Akzle
16th March 2014, 08:31
engines always go clockwise. Always.

Drew
16th March 2014, 08:33
engines always go clockwise. Always.
Depends what end of the crank you look at.

But no, nearly every bike manufacturer has toyed with spinning the crank the other way.

Woodman
16th March 2014, 08:58
engines always go clockwise. Always.

Most Hondas go anticlockwise.

Akzle
16th March 2014, 09:04
Depends what end of the crank you look at.


:laugh:
the front. :p Coon!

Mo NZ
16th March 2014, 10:04
Good news. Though as soon as the motor starts turning, let the key go next time.

Will do. It took off like a rabbit with a Foxie up its arse.:Oops:

Thanks for the tips.

Woodman
16th March 2014, 10:19
Also be real careful when doing that on some later motors, Ford Focus etc. The bottom timing pulley is on a taper, e.g. no locating key. Will cause bent valves when said timing pulley bolt is loosened.:niceone:

Akzle
16th March 2014, 10:56
Also be real careful when doing that on some later motors, Ford Focus etc. The bottom timing pulley is on a taper, e.g. no locating key. Will cause bent valves when said timing pulley bolt is loosened.:niceone:

to be fair. Your fault for having a ford.

Woodman
16th March 2014, 11:02
to be fair. Your fault for having a ford.

Nout wrong with Fords, and anyway it was a company car. Was getting its cambelt replaced as per service at a Ford dealership:facepalm: when the mechanic bent all the valves.