So when will the sharemarket crash in 2014?

[Voltaire]

It’s Not Coming It’s Here: Evidence For an Unstoppable Catastrophic Nightmare—There Is Zero Time Left! (http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2015/08/its-not-coming-its-here-unstoppable-economic-crash-commencing-as-world-tumbles-into-stock-market-and-oil-crisis-2754390.html)


Russian double hits a new low as oil prices plunge

Is the Dooble in Trouble?:lol:

[mashman]

Is the Dooble in Trouble?:lol:

Had a chuckle at that too... I thought they meant vodka measure though :laugh:. Who will survive, the govt or the bank?

[Voltaire]

Had a chuckle at that too... I thought they meant vodka measure though :laugh:. Who will survive, the govt or the bank?

The Chinese look to have done the property thing in China then jumped on the Stock Market and as they were able to move money offshore global property.
Given the Chinese economy is slowing and the sharemarket is being propped up by Govt decree you would have to wonder how long the 'overseas' money can stay here.
Are the Aussie banks in good shape..? The CBA had a good year.
If there is a crash it will probably hit here just before the election and the poor opposition will inherit a poisoned chalice.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02038/end-of-the-world_2038061c.jpg
http://oi30.tinypic.com/2rggu2a.jpg

[oldrider]

If there is a crash it will probably hit here just before the election and the poor opposition will inherit a poisoned chalice.

Well at least it's something that Labour knows a lot about! :shifty: (Train of thought anyone)

[mashman]

The Chinese look to have done the property thing in China then jumped on the Stock Market and as they were able to move money offshore global property.
Given the Chinese economy is slowing and the sharemarket is being propped up by Govt decree you would have to wonder how long the 'overseas' money can stay here.
Are the Aussie banks in good shape..? The CBA had a good year.
If there is a crash it will probably hit here just before the election and the poor opposition will inherit a poisoned chalice.


Meh... it's gotta happen at some point for any number of reasons.
So, early election then :shifty:

[husaberg]

Meh... it's gotta happen at some point for any number of reasons.
So, early election then :shifty:

John Key will Flag it.................

[nodrog]

Well at least it's something that Labour knows a lot about! :shifty: (Train of thought anyone)

Peter Davis reckoned it tasted alright.

[nodrog]

It’s Not Coming It’s Here: Evidence For an Unstoppable Catastrophic Nightmare—There Is Zero Time Left! (http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2015/08/its-not-coming-its-here-unstoppable-economic-crash-commencing-as-world-tumbles-into-stock-market-and-oil-crisis-2754390.html)

sounds legit, I take all my financial advice from chicks with dangling earrings on webcams in their bedrooms.

[mashman]

sounds legit, I take all my financial advice from chicks with dangling earrings on webcams in their bedrooms.

Oh... I'm generally fucking them, but next time I'll ask them for a tip.

[Brian d marge]

I prefer the news from chicks in their bedrooms with earrings

rather than the usual economic pundits who are saying the same thing

https://www.google.co.jp/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=dow+jones&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=i8zbVZbZPMKT8QeX4ay4CQ


so we have a ways to go ... BUT , a currency run will happen over night , Friday afternoon all ok , Monday morning banks closed , due to a computer virus or what ever

and you kiss goodbye to your money. ( your money is no an unsecured creditor or something like that ...bail INS anyone ?)

IMHO

you already have ( a kind of) hyperinflation in the asset market , commodities are tanking ( dont quote as Im not near a computer , but if I remember they are ALL down over the last year )


China , http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/aug/24/global-stocks-sell-off-deepens-as-panic-grips-markets-live

that will stop Yellen increasing interest rates , ( almost seems like US and china are working together , yellen CANT put up interest rates and now she has an excuse ......QE 100 anyone ?)


So As I said before , Roll on September and we will get ( or have now )
http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/aug/24/global-stocks-sell-off-deepens-as-panic-grips-markets-live

currency wars

trade war

World war ( and this/these wont be fought with sticks and stones , WW4 will but not these ones )

anyway , just IMHO

BTW, lets look at the conditions that led to the 29 market crash .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_Crash_of_1929#Economic_fundamentals

Companies reporting record stock prices ( check )

Rampant speculation ( check )

S and p composite index ( p/e) SEPTEMBER 1929 ; 32 , currently 20

http://www.multpl.com/table


All we need now is a red flag to cause commodities ( ?) to crash and hey its 1929 all over again


Anyways

if ya do have a back up plan or a get out of jail card , your dumber than a horses patoot

Skills , not bits of paper , food in the house , and cash to cover the house ....and a fk load of beer,,,,,,,.IMHO

Stephen

All in the best possible taste of course

[oldrider]

Hmmm - anybody smell hear or see a weasel? :eek:

[husaberg]

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[oldrider]

True or false - funny thing is - I would still rather have the current mob in there than any of the others currently on serious (read media approved) offer! :rolleyes:

Problem is - their attachment to NZ becoming a pseudo star on the American flag! :oi-grr:

[Voltaire]

True or false - funny thing is - I would still rather have the current mob in there than any of the others currently on serious (read media approved) offer! :rolleyes:

Problem is - their attachment to NZ becoming a pseudo star on the American flag! :oi-grr:

In this Global world the Govt here is more like a council.

The only interest to Americans is an outpost in the Pacific.

[Brian d marge]

This stock market is taking it time to crash aint it



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[nodrog]

This stock market is taking it time to crash aint it



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4UFQWKjy_I

[oldrider]

[video=youtube;l4UFQWKttps://www.you.com/watch?v=l4UFQWKjy_I[/video]

FFS! - He wore a badge - he should have been obeyed without question! - What is this fucking world descending to? :facepalm:

[husaberg]

This stock market is taking it time to crash aint it



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It might have broker down.:innocent:

[Brian d marge]

It might have broker down.:innocent:
Very good . . Badoom ching

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[husaberg]

Very good . . Badoom ching

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[mashman]

This stock market is taking it time to crash aint it

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As long as there is money being "pumped" in, it can grow forever... given that money is infinite like.

[Ocean1]

As long as there is money being "pumped" in, it can grow forever... given that money is infinite like.

In which case you won't have a problem handing over all yours to me, will you?

[Brian d marge]

In which case you won't have a problem handing over all yours to me, will you?
You can use it as wallpaper

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[mashman]

In which case you won't have a problem handing over all yours to me, will you?

Not at all... when the day comes I'll happily give you the lot.

[Ocean1]

Not at all... when the day comes I'll happily give you the lot.

So money's not infinite today?

[mashman]

So money's not infinite today?

Yes it is, but today isn't the day.

[Ocean1]

Yes it is, but today isn't the day.

If it's infinite then it's worthless, either throw it all away or admit you're full of shit.

[Brian d marge]

If it's infinite then it's worthless, throw it all away .

thats the 2nd most intelligent thing you have posted

Catching up quick you is


Stephen

[Ocean1]

thats the 2nd most intelligent thing you have posted

Catching up quick you is


Stephen

Which is close to the least intelligent thing you've said, a moron could tell you he's full of shit after the first sentence he utters.

[mashman]

If it's infinite then it's worthless, either throw it all away or admit you're full of shit.

I've already said that I'm giving it to you.

[Brian d marge]

Which is close to the least intelligent thing you've said, a moron could tell you he's full of shit after the first sentence he utters.

looks like we have an inverse relationship .....

Marx said , that capitalism would eat itself from the inside out , and we are seeing that with the US and China relationships ,,, so far the evidence is stacking up in favour , of the mashman.....

[Ocean1]

Marx said , that capitalism would eat itself from the inside out , and we are seeing that with the US and China relationships ,,,

And Marx was an authority on capitalism, was he? Only I seem to recall he fucked up horribly by heading in the other direction.


so far the evidence is stacking up in favour , of the mashman.....

Aye. Like the '14 sharemarket crash evidence.

[Brian d marge]

And Marx was an authority on capitalism, was he? Only I seem to recall he fucked up horribly by heading in the other direction.



Aye. Like the '14 sharemarket crash evidence.

That crash of 14 was a shocker wasnt it , Glad I watched you tube and let South Canterbury finance look after my retirement

Dont suppose you have noticed a common thread ......or are the houses just going to get bigger ....


Comrade

[Ocean1]

Dont suppose you have noticed a common thread ....

Yes. In the history of fuckwits predicting the sky is falling exactly none have ever been right.

[Brian d marge]

Yes. In the history of fuckwits predicting the sky is falling exactly none have ever been right.

Well the nay sayers have a quite an impressive record

here is a list of Empires , any of them still going ? possibly the Zulu nation? and of course the American empire ....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires

We are of course talking about failed Empires and not skies falling ....

[Ocean1]

We are of course talking about failed Empires and not skies falling ....

Then you're wildly off topic, as usual.

The rest of us are talking about the share market. In particular we're talking about it not crashing as predicted.

Fucking inconvenient innit?

[husaberg]

The rest of us are talking about the share market. In particular we're talking about it not crashing as predicted.
Fucking inconvenient innit?

If you are a high rise window salesman maybe,
But not if you are a stockbroker who suffers from vertigo.

[Ocean1]

If you are a high rise window salesman maybe,
But not if you are a stockbroker who suffers from vertigo.

Well, the thing is stockbrokers aren't any better at predicting market behaviour than anyone else. Worse than average in fact.

Last time I looked some of the wrinklier flavours of mathematicians occasionally provided a slightly better option than a completely random selection. Kiwibiker Chicken Little fan club members? Pfffftt.

[Brian d marge]

Then you're wildly off topic, as usual.

The rest of us are talking about the share market. In particular we're talking about it not crashing as predicted.

Fucking inconvenient innit?
Capitalism . . .i assumed you were keeping up
My bad
Sorry

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[Ocean1]

Capitalism . . .i assumed you were keeping up
My bad
Sorry

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Oh I am. With the facts. Which are that capitalist economies have been and continue to perform better than any other sort in recorded history.

Which bullshit are you keeping up with?

[mashman]

Oh I am. With the facts. Which are that capitalist economies have been and continue to perform better than any other sort in recorded history.

Which bullshit are you keeping up with?

:killingme... No shit Sherlock.

If you weren't so entrenched, you'd know.

Come by.........

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/ftpuploads/bloguploads/0913/wtf-cant-explain-sheep-people.jpg

[husaberg]

Well, the thing is stockbrokers aren't any better at predicting market behaviour than anyone else. Worse than average in fact.

Last time I looked some of the wrinklier flavours of mathematicians occasionally provided a slightly better option than a completely random selection. Kiwibiker Chicken Little fan club members? Pfffftt.

May not be so great at predicting it granted, but super doper great at reacting to it.
Shaun Harris has it sorted he hedging Milo options.

[Ocean1]

:killingme... No shit Sherlock.

If you weren't so entrenched, you'd know.

You've got a fucking short memory, last time we had this discussion and I asked you to point out the non-capitalist countries in the list of top performing economies on the planet you couldn't count far enough down the list to find any. Even with your shoes off.

But, y'know bullshit and bluster probably makes you look a little less of a fuckwit. :yawn:

[Ocean1]

May not be so great at predicting it granted, but super doper great at reacting to it.
Shaun Harris has it sorted he hedging Milo options.

I don't really care, I've never bought shares from a professional broker in my life, don't intend to start.

And if SH is into futures all power to him, I wish him the best of luck, no matter who's money he's using.

[husaberg]

I don't really care, I've never bought shares from a professional broker in my life, don't intend to start.

And if SH is into futures all power to him, I wish him the best of luck, no matter who's money he's using.

I'm not sure it really is futures, as its tangible, plapable and has a upcoming expiry date. Its more Presents. or maybe Pasts.
I'm not sure you should use a Prostitute for advice on Stocks and bonds, but maybe for money laundering.

[Ocean1]

I'm not sure it really is futures, as its tangible, plapable and has a upcoming expiry date. Its more Presents. or maybe Pasts.
I'm not sure you should use a Prostitute for advice on Stocks and bonds, but maybe for money laundering.

I think it qualifies.

Difficult to see how your money would be less safe with the pro-pro, and you're money's just as spent either way.

[husaberg]

I think it qualifies.

Difficult to see how your money would be less safe with the pro-pro, and you're money's just as spent either way.

I don't know if there were tricks to be turned I think the pro pro would be a bit more upfront with what's going down.
They likely also have there finger on the pulse of the comings a goings.:lol:
Either way when the bubble burst you are equally fucked.

[Brian d marge]

You've got a fucking short memory, last time we had this discussion and I asked you to point out the non-capitalist countries in the list of top performing economies on the planet you couldn't count far enough down the list to find any. Even with your shoes off.

But, y'know bullshit and bluster probably makes you look a little less of a fuckwit. :yawn:
If i can include past economies
As we kinda have destroyed and forced upon other a centralistic banking system
So the term successful is null and void

Or you would be saying pol pot had a very successfull regime

How would you like to quantify successfull ?



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[Brian d marge]

:killingme... No shit Sherlock.

If you weren't so entrenched, you'd know.

Come by.........

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/ftpuploads/bloguploads/0913/wtf-cant-explain-sheep-people.jpg
Ya beat me to it

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[Drew]

It's well into 2015. So the answer to the original question is never. Why is this thread still showing up in the new posts section?

[Ocean1]

If i can include past economies

You mean failed ones? Sure, fill your boots.


As we kinda have destroyed and forced upon other a centralistic banking system

Forced you to borrow money from the bogey man eh?

Gun against your head was it?


So the term successful is null and void

Or you would be saying pol pot had a very successfull regime

How would you like to quantify successfull ?

Bullshit. Success is simply managing a sustainable market where there's enough freedom to encourage productive behaviour.

Which makes Pol Pot much more like your typical socialist/communist economy: a millstone around the neck of any productive effort, a failure waiting to happen.

[Ocean1]

It's well into 2015. So the answer to the original question is never. Why is this thread still showing up in the new posts section?

So we can laugh at the fuckwits insisting the sky is falling. Again.

[husaberg]

Why is this thread still showing up in the new posts section?

Because Drew this thread just like the Forsyth Barr Stadium has new posts.

[mashman]

You've got a fucking short memory, last time we had this discussion and I asked you to point out the non-capitalist countries in the list of top performing economies on the planet you couldn't count far enough down the list to find any. Even with your shoes off.

But, y'know bullshit and bluster probably makes you look a little less of a fuckwit. :yawn:

And yet it's a non-capitalist country that's #1 :killingme... that and you're using capitalist measures to measure non-capitalist society's and claim fact :killingme... fuckin moron.

Good to know I can improve. My commiserations to you, as I can't say the same.

[Brian d marge]

You mean failed ones? Sure, fill your boots.



Forced you to borrow money from the bogey man eh?

Gun against your head was it?

Try NOT using money and see how far you get ,,,,and money IS DEBT .... ( tis how it enters the system ,,,,,, so someone somewhere borrowed )



Bullshit. Success is simply managing a sustainable market where there's enough freedom to encourage productive behaviour.

The first nations had a long sustainable economy ( using your criteria ,,,) ,,,one wonders how they minted coins ,,,oh thats right they didnt....... and , I would say they had a successful setup for how long??? 12000 odd years give or take ......

until we forced a central bank on em ...which would make your statement below quite correct ...except for your failure to understand socialism and communism (of which Im am waiting with baited breath for your explanation )

Which makes Pol Pot much more like your typical socialist/communist economy: a millstone around the neck of any productive effort, a failure waiting to happen.


Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds nought and six, result misery.

Save your money and work hard and you will lead a successful life full of security and happiness


:brick:

[Ocean1]

Save your money and work hard and you will lead a successful life full of security and happiness

Yup. You're the only person in the whole world it doesn't work for.

Well, you and all them other whiny arsed pinko bastards.

[Ocean1]

And yet it's a non-capitalist country that's #1 :killingme... that and you're using capitalist measures to measure non-capitalist society's and claim fact :killingme... fuckin moron.

Good to know I can improve. My commiserations to you, as I can't say the same.

It is? News to the rest of the world, which paragon of socialist success is this masked nation?

And I am? Which measures am I using?

And you can't help but improve when you're as destitute of clues as you.

[Brian d marge]

Yup. You're the only person in the whole world it doesn't work for.

Well, you and all them other whiny arsed pinko bastards.
I tend to work smarter unlike some

And i own a house in tokyo
Motorbikes

Cars

And kids through school

Played that game . . Been there done that and according to your rules . . Successful

Which would make me qualified to comment one would think




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[mashman]

It is? News to the rest of the world, which paragon of socialist success is this masked nation?

And I am? Which measures am I using?

And you can't help but improve when you're as destitute of clues as you.

China. Yes, it was news, and so the rest of the world does know, but not you it seems :niceone:

Money.

Given that you're unable to shift from your position (much, I suspect not only, to my amusement I might addd) and are hell bent on clasping on to some form of archaic view of the world that the rest of us are rapidly realising is a failure, it's hardly surprising that that is the best you have as a response. Don't be so scared, and old, and white, and blind, muthafucka. If you can't shift position, you won't see the clues... stands to reason really.

[Ocean1]

China. Yes, it was news, and so the rest of the world does know, but not you it seems :niceone:

Money.

Given that you're unable to shift from your position (much, I suspect not only, to my amusement I might addd) and are hell bent on clasping on to some form of archaic view of the world that the rest of us are rapidly realising is a failure, it's hardly surprising that that is the best you have as a response. Don't be so scared, and old, and white, and blind, muthafucka. If you can't shift position, you won't see the clues... stands to reason really.

Wrong, miles down the list.

Wrong, sustainable standard of living is the correct measure of success.

And the only people with a view of the world that's failing are the "anti-austerity" socialist fuckwits that want something for nothing.

[Ocean1]

I tend to work smarter unlike some

And i own a house in tokyo
Motorbikes

Cars

And kids through school

Played that game . . Been there done that and according to your rules . . Successful

Which would make me qualified to comment one would think




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So it worked for you....



Save your money and work hard and you will lead a successful life full of security and happiness :brick:

.... but it still deserves contempt?

And it's not fair that we have to work to succeed?

Bit of a childish attitude innit?

[mashman]

Wrong, miles down the list.

Wrong, sustainable standard of living is the correct measure of success.

And the only people with a view of the world that's failing are the "anti-austerity" socialist fuckwits that want something for nothing.

Pessimist.

Yet China are sustaining the largest population on the planet.

:killingme ok, stay old, white, scared and blind then.

[Ocean1]

Pessimist.

Yet China are sustaining the largest population on the planet.

:killingme ok, stay old, white, scared and blind then.

Fuckwit.

Most of China have living conditions indistinguishable from those of a century ago. Some of them the same as three centuries ago. If you like that lifestyle I can arrange it for you. No charge.

[Brian d marge]

Fuckwit.

Most of China have living conditions indistinguishable from those of a century ago. Some of them the same as three centuries ago. If you like that lifestyle I can arrange it for you. No charge.
Coming to nz if it already hasnt arrived

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[Ocean1]

Coming to nz if it already hasnt arrived

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Before or after the 2014 sharemarket crash?

[Laava]

Bump.............

[mashman]

Fuckwit.

Most of China have living conditions indistinguishable from those of a century ago. Some of them the same as three centuries ago. If you like that lifestyle I can arrange it for you. No charge.

Arse.

OMG you mean, no, it can't be what, things are different. However we were more sustainable back then, so your chosen measure, like your what I can only assume is a booze addled mind, is fubar. Thanks for the offer, but I'd rather we found our own way with today's advantages... in fact that way will be achieved with no charge.

[husaberg]

When will the stockmarket crash in 2014 it bloody did
nobody knew because the CIA covered it up, they just seen crash and thought it was more stuff about 911.:clap:

[Brian d marge]

Wrong, miles down the list.

Wrong, sustainable standard of living is the correct measure of success.

And the only people with a view of the world that's failing are the "anti-austerity" socialist fuckwits that want something for nothing.

So , now that we have established I am eligible to comment using your metrics , a sustainable economy ...... as I said would be the first nations , 12000 years ....continuous society ,,we cant even last 500

As for socialist ...Im now convinced you have no knowledge of the "use" and the "meaning" of the word and are completely unqualified in the use of .

[Ocean1]

So , now that we have established I am eligible to comment using your metrics , a sustainable economy ...... as I said would be the first nations , 12000 years ....continuous society ,,we cant even last 500

As for socialist ...Im now convinced you have no knowledge of the "use" and the "meaning" of the word and are completely unqualified in the use of .

Anybody's eligible to comment, dude.

But if you reckon all of human pre-history was a single, continuous society OR a continuous economic system then I'd suggest you save yourself the embarrassment.

And I think you've just exposed your qualifications to comment on my knowledge of the meaning of the word socialist. They're transparent drivel.

[Brian d marge]

Anybody's eligible to comment, dude.

But if you reckon all of human pre-history was a single, continuous society OR a continuous economic system then I'd suggest you save yourself the embarrassment.

And I think you've just exposed your qualifications to comment on my knowledge of the meaning of the word socialist. They're transparent drivel.

all of human pre-history

now where did I say that

and your going to have hot flushes when you realise that one was the cause of the others longevity ....

( and when you retire you will rely on it !)

[Ocean1]

all of human pre-history

now where did I say that

and your going to have hot flushes when you realise that one was the cause of the others longevity ....

( and when you retire you will rely on it !)

Right here:


a sustainable economy ...... as I said would be the first nations , 12000 years ....continuous society

And the only thing I'm relying on in my retirement is that fuckwits keep their hands off my property. Same as now.

[Brian d marge]

Right here:



And the only thing I'm relying on in my retirement is that fuckwits keep their hands off my property. Same as now.

good luck with that

[Ocean1]

good luck with that

Got plenty of 10swg luck in stock.

[Voltaire]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/china-halts-stock-trading-for-second-time-this-week-after-markets-plunge-a6800116.html

interesting how the Govt can suspend trading when it drops 7%, and forbid anyone owning more than 5% of a company selling within 6 months.
Rumour is the Chinese Govt have over rated/estimated growth.
Is this this what happens when you have a dictatorship running a Free Market Economy.:lol:

[Brian d marge]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/china-halts-stock-trading-for-second-time-this-week-after-markets-plunge-a6800116.html

interesting how the Govt can suspend trading when it drops 7%, and forbid anyone owning more than 5% of a company selling within 6 months.
Rumour is the Chinese Govt have over rated/estimated growth.
Is this this what happens when you have a dictatorship running a Free Market Economy.[emoji38]
Qe money flowed in to the emerging markets and now is on its way out when they tapered

The smart money bailed about a year ago

I still have interests in china

She told me for 2 dollars she would love me for quite sometime

And I think shes on the level

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[J.A.W.]

Qe money flowed in to the emerging markets and now is on its way out when they tapered

The smart money bailed about a year ago

I still have interests in china

She told me for 2 dollars she would love me for quite sometime

And I think shes on the level


2 dorras!

US dorras?

For happy ending?

Ok then..

But for lound worrd, 5 dorra minimum!


As for Volteface's ludicrous anti-red China spiel, he's so last millenium..

Full credit to the Poiitbureau for pulling the plug on the casino losers mob-panic routine..

[oldrider]

Federal reserve system? - Guaranteed to fail? - Well not for it's owners and they are private people "not governments"! :oi-grr:

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[oldrider]

So who actually owns the federal reserve bank?

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[Brian d marge]

So who actually owns the federal reserve bank?

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Webster tarpley . . Enjoy you will

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[mashman]

Why didn't it crash? Well this guy, former head of the Dallas FED and a part of the decision making at the FED, explains why.

Richard Fisher admits Stock Markets are Fake, driven by QE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnIYZiWlaUY

[Ocean1]

Why didn't it crash?

Because all of the "money free" fuckwits were wrong.

Don't you have some circles to run around in, what with the sky still up there an' all?

[Brian d marge]

Because all of the "money free" fuckwits were wrong.

Don't you have some circles to run around in, what with the sky still up there an' all?
Youre right for once

Money isnt free as it retains wealth

Currency isnt feee as it retains debt

Qe however was there to pay tax
In order to pay interest on debt

A giant ponzi scheme as others have noted

But then you probably knew that

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[mashman]

Because all of the "money free" fuckwits were wrong.

Don't you have some circles to run around in, what with the sky still up there an' all?

Nope. Perhaps you should listen to what one of the heads of the FED said... then again, you probably wouldn't understand it because they're explaining how the economy works today, not 60 years ago.

I'm FED up with running circles around you.

[Brian d marge]

Nope. Perhaps you should listen to what one of the heads of the FED said... then again, you probably wouldn't understand it because they're explaining how the economy works today, not 60 years ago.

I'm FED up with running circles around you.
Its on you tube


Actually it is im not jokin ben bernanki saying we print money

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[mashman]

Its on you tube


Actually it is im not jokin ben bernanki saying we print money

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heh... good old Max explained it quite well the other day: 16 trillion printed via QE, not a blip on inflation. That goes against the religiously held economic belief that you can't print money without inflation going bonkers... certainly not 16 trillion worth. Perhaps NZ should have listened to the Greens when they said it's ok to print more money :killingme :killingme :killingme :crybaby: :killingme :killingme :killingme

[Brian d marge]

heh... good old Max explained it quite well the other day: 16 trillion printed via QE, not a blip on inflation. That goes against the religiously held economic belief that you can't print money without inflation going bonkers... certainly not 16 trillion worth. Perhaps NZ should have listened to the Greens when they said it's ok to print more money :killingme :killingme :killingme :crybaby: :killingme :killingme :killingme
If ya print money then put it in a shoebox the money outside the shoebox doesnt get inflated

The monwy inside the shoebox u lend to dorklanders in order to buy inflated shoeboxes

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[mashman]

If ya print money then put it in a shoebox the money outside the shoebox doesnt get inflated

The monwy inside the shoebox u lend to dorklanders in order to buy inflated shoeboxes

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I guess 0% interest helps that along nicely.

[Brian d marge]

I guess 0% interest helps that along nicely.

to know ya past is to know your future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BqZNJ9rnU










(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BqZNJ9rnU)

[mashman]

to know ya past is to know your future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BqZNJ9rnU

Or accept that the past is full of scared blind old white muthafuckas and the ways of scared blind old white muthafuckas and forge your own future by doing something that makes sense instead ;)

[Brian d marge]

Or accept that the past is full of scared blind old white muthafuckas and the ways of scared blind old white muthafuckas and forge your own future by doing something that makes sense instead ;)
too scary
Ill stick to the old ways thanks

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[Ocean1]

to know ya past is to know your future

The share market didn't crash in '14, didn't crash in '15, so it's not going to crash in '16?

Wish all you Chicken Littles would make up your fucking mind, do we finally get to gloat at the rich pricks this year or not?

[mashman]

The share market didn't crash in '14, didn't crash in '15, so it's not going to in '16?

Wish all you Chicken Littles would make up your fucking mind, do we finally get to gloat at the rich pricks this year or not?

It did and it took vast quantities of QE to keep it from looking that way. It's common knowledge. I told you that money could be printed without inflation. Ironically making you Chicken Little.

Gloat? bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[mashman]

too scary
Ill stick to the old ways thanks

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No worries... hell, you'll likely not even notice that it's happened :shifty:

[Ocean1]

It did and it took vast quantities of QE to keep it from looking that way. It's common knowledge. I told you that money could be printed without inflation. Ironically making you Chicken Little.

Gloat? bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Yeah, whatever.

That sky's still up there, better do another lap or two for good measure, eh.

[Indiana_Jones]

Thanks, Obama, Clark, Churchill and Gaddafi.

[yokel]

Know the difference between money and currency.
The shits going to hit the fan.

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[mashman]

Late March...

[mashman]

Yeah, whatever.

I've got an up to date economics book you can borrow if you like

http://orig02.deviantart.net/4556/f/2012/125/c/6/loser__by_dmlxo21-d4yl9jt.png


That sky's still up there, better do another lap or two for good measure, eh.

No, that's just a reflection of the Ocean.

[Voltaire]

Time to sell my $500 of Fletchers shares :bye: already dropped 17%

Chinas Ghost City http://gizmodo.com/welcome-to-the-worlds-largest-ghost-city-ordos-china-1541512511

[Voltaire]

Crikey...need to convert my fiat money into gold...:brick:

Is money in your Aussie banks Govt guaranteed or was that just that Ponzi Cuntaberrie Finance?

[J.A.W.]

Crikey...need to convert my fiat money into gold...:brick:

Is money in your Aussie banks Govt guaranteed or was that just that Ponzi Cuntaberrie Finance?


Good as gold mate.. chillax.. ah, yeah, the Red Chinese do have all our actual Au metal, sure, but even so..

[mashman]

World economy on edge of recession: Citi (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/world-economy-edge-recession-citi-164546136.html)... SELL SELL SELL :killingme. Maybe I'll accept that Davos invite next time ;)

[Brian d marge]

World economy on edge of recession: Citi (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/world-economy-edge-recession-citi-164546136.html)... SELL SELL SELL :killingme. Maybe I'll accept that Davos invite next time ;)
I though it was already happening

ping me an email when they start fighting

the wife will kill me if i leave the washing out

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[Voltaire]

Thanks to The Don, the Dow is at an all time high based probably on making America Great...

I read on MSM that its been the longest run ever ( of for a long time).

Low interest rates have been around for so long that its almost thought of as normal.

Will the Federal Reserve raise the rate this week?

[jim.cox]

Will the Federal Reserve raise the rate this week?

Bit slow off the mark there mate.

Yellen announced a rate rise wednesday last week.

[Akzle]

you're a Bit slow cunt.
.

fify .

[pritch]

Thanks to The Don, the Dow is at an all time high based probably on making America Great...



Prolly 'cause he's removing obstacles to making money such as regulations covering health and safety, food and drugs, environmental protections, etc - and lowering taxes for the rich.

Great for some. Tough about the 24 million who could lose their medical insurance and those who only get poisoned water to drink though.

[husaberg]

Thanks to The Don, the Dow is at an all time high based probably on making America Great...

I read on MSM that its been the longest run ever ( of for a long time).

Low interest rates have been around for so long that its almost thought of as normal.

Will the Federal Reserve raise the rate this week?

What goes up must go DOWn
look at the chart.
<a href='http://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart'>Dow Jones - 100 Year Historical Chart</a>
http://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart

[Brian d marge]

I do have to say , I did think the stock market would have had a correction by now , So in that respect people like ocean are correct.
but
I mean ALL , and I do think ALL the indicators are pointing to a correction .

However I did hear a good point the other day , which is worth bearing in mind , If you use a big computer and inject cash to the fail point , bank , company ,,whatever it has the effect of c\kicking the can down the road a bit longer , just a thought thats all.

They re fked , insolvent. markets looking lier the 1920s. gold and silver markets rigged , and people starting to wake up to their games

I suspect the rates rise will be small, UNLESS they have all the chess pieces in place, kinda along the lines of the last time

to shift the world paradigm you need a global event ....... one wonders

[Brian d marge]

What goes up must go DOWn
look at the chart.
http://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart
Come to the dark side Luke....


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[husaberg]

Come to the dark side Luke....


sent for a divine source

Nah...
but it looks like the SS Trumps heading for a iceberg.
but hes too full of bull to notice.

[Brian d marge]

Nah...
but it looks like the SS trumphs heading for a iceberg.
but hes too full of bull to notice.
You do know that wasn't the Titanic rather her sister ship with the plate swapped , which had suffered an major expensive uninsured accident..

It's very interesting over in the dark side ...And the fashionable head wear is all the rage...

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

You do know that wasn't the Titanic rather her sister ship with the plate swapped , which had suffered an major expensive uninsured accident..

It's very interesting over in the dark side ...And the fashionable head wear is all the rage...

sent for a divine source

You appeared to be rather foiled.
http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-now-is-the-winter-of-our-discontent-made-glorious-summer-by-this-sun-of-york-and-all-william-shakespeare-46-2-0201.jpg
But over here winters approaching and there certainly now appears to be icebergs on the horizon. i'll go shag kate winslet while you play till the end in the band.
http://i.imgur.com/utom2TG.gif

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23309/4581976-url.gif
Actually maybe kate beckinsdale available. She might be better in the zombie apocalypse

[Ocean1]

I do have to say , I did think the stock market would have had a correction by now , So in that respect people like ocean are correct.

Given that the only aspect I commented on was the rank stupidity of amateurs attempting to predict bulk market events I'd say the fact that I was correct was firmly established years ago.

[Brian d marge]

Given that the only aspect I commented on was the rank stupidity of amateurs attempting to predict bulk market events I'd say the fact that I was correct was firmly established years ago.
And the professionals, trained in Yale and Harvard

Get it right ....

Nice try , but firmly established , there are some who would disagree

sent for a divine source

[Ocean1]

And the professionals, trained in Yale and Harvard

Get it right ....

Nice try , but firmly established , there are some who would disagree

sent for a divine source

You can tell those that get it right: they're the ones who have made lots of money investing in the market.

So disagree all you like, unless you're bank balance shows otherwise it's just more proof that I'm right.

[Brian d marge]

You can tell those that get it right: they're the ones who have made lots of money investing in the market.

So disagree all you like, unless you're bank balance shows otherwise it's just more proof that I'm right.

House bought and paid for
just changed the car so a liitle in debt , not bad

saving took a hit a hit recently , my bad .
but this seems to work ;
“Annual income 20 pounds, annual
expenditure 19 pounds six; result:
happiness. Annual income 20 pounds,
annual expenditure 20 pounds ought
and six; result: misery.”

now back to the stock market

two words ; Zero interest.

[Katman]

You can tell those that get it right: they're the ones who have made lots of money investing in the market.

You almost make them sound honest.

[Ocean1]

House bought and paid for
just changed the car so a liitle in debt , not bad

saving took a hit a hit recently , my bad .
but this seems to work ;
“Annual income 20 pounds, annual
expenditure 19 pounds six; result:
happiness. Annual income 20 pounds,
annual expenditure 20 pounds ought
and six; result: misery.”

now back to the stock market

two words ; Zero interest.

So you're still all talk, then. And still wrong.

[Ocean1]

You almost make them sound honest.

You sound like you have evidence to the contrary.

Which, we all know is a crock of shit.

[Brian d marge]

So you're still all talk, then. And still wrong.
In your humble opinion

Which is valued

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[Ocean1]

In your humble opinion

Which is valued

sent for a divine source

It's also correct, as demonstrated by the fact that none of you chicken little idiots have got it right yet.

But you go right on predicting Armageddon, the sky's gota fall one day, eh?

[Woodman]

You almost make them sound honest.

Why do you assume they aren't?

[Brian d marge]

It's also correct, as demonstrated by the fact that none of you chicken little idiots have got it right yet.

But you go right on predicting Armageddon, the sky's gota fall one day, eh?
oh no not at all , the stock market will just grow and grow , and think with all that new found wealth you could buy heaps of stuff.

in 1982 you could buy a 2 door basic fiat uno in Britain for 5k , what are they now 13 k? or more...... a fiat panda is 10 grand now , a Dacia Sandero Access 1.2 16v is 6k

so ya got this bit of paper issued by the biggest thieves in town which used to buy a pint of milk now you are lucky if you get the bottle ....oh thats right ya dont , its a tetra pack now

yup everything looks sweet as ...cant see any problems here .....

[Ocean1]

oh no not at all , the stock market will just grow and grow , and think with all that new found wealth you could buy heaps of stuff.

in 1982 you could buy a 2 door basic fiat uno in Britain for 5k , what are they now 13 k? or more...... a fiat panda is 10 grand now , a Dacia Sandero Access 1.2 16v is 6k

so ya got this bit of paper issued by the biggest thieves in town which used to buy a pint of milk now you are lucky if you get the bottle ....oh thats right ya dont , its a tetra pack now

yup everything looks sweet as ...cant see any problems here .....

None of which is even slightly relevant to the fact that none of you chicken little idiots have got a market collapse prediction right yet.

[Brian d marge]

None of which is even slightly relevant to the fact that none of you chicken little idiots have got a market collapse prediction right yet.
Why don't you ring them up ?

If ANYONE knew the date they would do very nicely thank you

I'm on the Titanic , thinking all is well , very worried about all this ice , so have my life jacket and a dress on, standing next the life boat


You can listen to the band play , they're playing waltzing Matilda


You will like that

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[Ocean1]

Why don't you ring them up ?

If ANYONE knew the date they would do very nicely thank you

I'm on the Titanic , thinking all is well , very worried about all this ice , so have my life jacket and a dress on, standing next the life boat


You can listen to the band play , they're playing waltzing Matilda


You will like that

sent for a divine source

Who is it, exactly that you want me to ring up?

Only, in spite of your endless drivel the number of people influencing any given market is roughly the number of people trading in that market. Be a tidy wee phone bill.

Or are you still trying to pretend that there's a small, powerful but un-nameable group of bogymen calling all the shots who are preventing you from being the massive success you so clearly deserve to be?

[Brian d marge]

Who is it, exactly that you want me to ring up?

Only, in spite of your endless drivel the number of people influencing any given market is roughly the number of people trading in that market. Be a tidy wee phone bill.

Or are you still trying to pretend that there's a small, powerful but un-nameable group of bogymen calling all the shots who are preventing you from being the massive success you so clearly deserve to be?
U are a gift that just keeps on giving

I don't even think I can give u an answer , the post was so stupid

The medium is whiskey , three people in a boat , one person has ice , another the bottle of whiskey the third nowt

Who controls the market

Here's one to get ur juices flowing

Libor



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[Ocean1]

I don't even think I can give u an answer

I know fucking well you can't.

Let's just chalk it up to #3 shall we?

[Brian d marge]

I know fucking well you can't.

Let's just chalk it up to #3 shall we?
did u miss something?

libor?

sent for a divine source

[Brian d marge]

Awfully quiet here now ...

sent for a divine source

[carbonhed]

Must be about time to dust this little gem off.

The usual gobshites still waiting...........................:finger:

[russd7]

Must be about time to dust this little gem off.

The usual gobshites still waiting...........................:finger:
weeeellll, based on the fact that we have a NZ 1st gubberment led by a fascist uneversity student who very obviously is trying to play the trump card against Kim while our dirty dairy is poluuting our water so that the introduced fish can't survive and our tourism industry that is so obviously based purely around such dead fish is goung to continue to fall off the milford road while our wouldbe leader is making spaghetti pizzas with pinnapple no less.

sooo based on all that i will now stand up and drop me dacs so the missus can pull a date out of me arse, and that date has turned in to a little bread bun type object and is scone

[Graystone]

Must be about time to dust this little gem off.

The usual gobshites still waiting...........................:finger:

Bitcoin though, just you wait...

[oldrider]

Meanwhile a little country waits. (as they say in the adds) :wait:

[Voltaire]

Well...its year 9 of the longest Bull run since dubya dubya two, global debt has exceeded the pre GFC levels,AU and NZ have

just finished a mega house buying spree mortgaged to the hilt, and the US is run by Trumph Inc, whats to go wrong really.


I should have bought more AIRN shares in 2016 but thoughts of 87 linger.

[mashman]

wibble. wibble.

[oldrider]

The road ahead is starting to show signs of getting a little rocky - check your seatbelts and keep your wits about you - :eek: - :shit: - :confused:

[pritch]

Trump has claimed credit for the ongoing six year rise in the stock market over fifty times. He has gone silent on the matter over the last few days.
I was half expecting the Republican line to be that it was somehow Hilary Clinton's fault, but Hannity has announced that the crash was caused by Obama. Amazing!

It's all smoke and mirrors, the stock market is not the economy, so unless you're name is Bezos, Gates, Koch or similar you can just relax and do whatever you were doing before.

[sidecar bob]

This is about when investors will dump their shares & go property, re igniting the cooling housing market. Bravo!

[Voltaire]

This is about when investors will dump their shares & go property, re igniting the cooling housing market. Bravo!


My play portfolio has dropped about 5% this week.

US shares are probably overvalued as no where else to put your money really other than banks and property.

Still, nine years is a good run.....unless of course you bought in year 9

[mashman]

It's all smoke and mirrors, the stock market is not the economy, so unless you're name is Bezos, Gates, Koch or similar you can just relax and do whatever you were doing before.

Glad they don't have employees, coz they're usually first on the choppin block when it comes to efficiency drives. Fortunately they'll also not suffer from technological unemployment either.

[Brian d marge]

wibble. wibble.Easy stages.. Mr Grimshaw , easy stages

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[Woodman]

Apparently interest rates may rise worldwide. Can't say I am unhappy about that.

[Brian d marge]

Apparently interest rates may rise worldwide. Can't say I am unhappy about that.Some say ...that when interest rates rise ( I heard 10,% I think lower) a lot of people will be , to put it mildly , knee deep in shit.

Tin foil hat on ....ommmmmmm

See economist cover above .. I think , just think mind , cause there is nowt I can do about it so why worry.
I think ..if you are obsessed with power.. then total power is what u want...ya wont be able to work with another ( who may also want total power)
Sooooo... As power consolidates so infighting increases

Aka ..the market at the moment. ..

It will collapse either in fits and bounds ...or suddenly

Up and down untill the 20 / 12 / 2020 ( when Pluto is in conjunction with Saturn in aquarius )

Or over the weekend so Monday morning markets fked and closed aka 1929 all over again. October 24, 1929,
( Which equals 9)

Either way if you are in debt and haven't an escape plan

U is fked

Tin foil hats off

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[carbonhed]

Time for the annual thread dredge to see how it's panning out for y'all... amazingly it looks like ya got it wrong... again :shit:

Except of course for the great bitcoin crash of 2018 :-

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12165499&fbclid=IwAR0HzkuHIXokkfeX0eUyzO4hQQnLYd9NADlD0c9Qj je0w7lRw8gaHk9e4yc

[oldrider]

Time for the annual thread dredge to see how it's panning out for y'all... amazingly it looks like ya got it wrong... again :shit:

Except of course for the great bitcoin crash of 2018 :-

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12165499&fbclid=IwAR0HzkuHIXokkfeX0eUyzO4hQQnLYd9NADlD0c9Qj je0w7lRw8gaHk9e4yc

Might want to try this one then it's a little more today/tomorrows trending. - https://expatmoneyshow.com/evm/ maybe there a motorcycle equivalent? :ride:

[Voltaire]

Whilst its a given that Electric Vehicles will grow, how does investing in the individual companies differ to " shady mining companies" ....who will

no doubt still be involved as copper and other battery ingredients don't grow on trees.

Also means you can lay loads of staff off.

Bitcoin was no surprise, people prefer the current fiat currencies.

Kawasaki 750 triples and Boat Tailed Harleys are where the serious money is.:innocent:

[oldrider]

Whilst its a given that Electric Vehicles will grow, how does investing in the individual companies differ to " shady mining companies" ....who will

no doubt still be involved as copper and other battery ingredients don't grow on trees.

Also means you can lay loads of staff off.

Bitcoin was no surprise, people prefer the current fiat currencies.

Kawasaki 750 triples and Boat Tailed Harleys are where the serious money is.:innocent:

I have no idea - just wondered if anyone else might see something that I didn't - IMHO return on investment is simply a "personal" choice and "gamble". :shifty:

Hope I didn't break any forum rules in posting that - guess it is really just another advertisement after all? :shit: - :spanking: - :o

[Voltaire]

I have no idea - just wondered if anyone else might see something that I didn't - IMHO return on investment is simply a "personal" choice and "gamble". :shifty:

Hope I didn't break any forum rules in posting that - guess it is really just another advertisement after all? :shit: - :spanking: - :o

You might loose Social Credit and not be allowed on the bus.:rolleyes:

[oldrider]

You might loose Social Credit and not be allowed on the bus.:rolleyes:

:lol: Did you see the new Chinese version of "Social Credit"! :facepalm:

[Ocean1]

Are we there yet?

[mashman]

Are we there yet?

Yes. It crashed and was propped up with funny money. The resultant current economy kind of proves that, but hey..........

[sidecar bob]

Yes. It crashed and was propped up with funny money. The resultant current economy kind of proves that, but hey..........

What was funny about the money? Did it have jokes written on it?

[mashman]

What was funny about the money? Did it have jokes written on it?

It did, something to do with promising to pay the value or some such. It's money backing money, not asset backing money. At least asset has some honour in it.

[Voltaire]

What was funny about the money? Did it have jokes written on it?


" In God we trust"

[oldrider]

Maybe it’s because I’m a Londoner ��... oh, hang on. - https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1159209072085872642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow% 7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - There's no place like home - never will be again it seems. :facepalm:

Was it on their money too! - " In God we trust" ?

[mashman]

Maybe it’s because I’m a Londoner ��... oh, hang on. - https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1159209072085872642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow% 7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - There's no place like home - never will be again it seems. :facepalm:

Was it on their money too! - " In God we trust" ?

Nah, we had Queeny. She's the next best thing as she is his servant....... as we are hers lol. Multiculturalism in a world that defines what the values of any given country are supposed to be... or else. What could possibly go wrong :killingme

[sidecar bob]

Time for the annual dust off of this old nugget again.:facepalm:

[mashman]

Time for the annual dust off of this old nugget again.:facepalm:

It was crashing i.e. the crash was happening, and it was propped up using printed money. No mystery. But keep looking for evidence to back your position........ :killingme

[sidecar bob]

It was crashing i.e. the crash was happening, and it was propped up using printed money. No mystery. But keep looking for evidence to back your position........ :killingme

Must be pretty chur printed money, it's still doing the trick:killingme:killingme:killingme
Try googling "share market crash 2019" plenty of predictions, that's all.

[mashman]

Must be pretty chur printed money, it's still doing the trick:killingme:killingme:killingme
Try googling "share market crash 2019" plenty of predictions, that's all.

Well it "worked" for the housing crisis....... and the various other crisiseses before that. I'm almost tempted to have a look at the 2019 predictions as the 2019 land value cycle was toted as potentially causing issues. Meh, they'll just print more money.

[Voltaire]

I did read an article saying that with the US Boomers retiring ( 100 000 per year) in droves and pulling money out of the market it could get interesting.

[sidecar bob]

I did read an article saying that with the US Boomers retiring ( 100 000 per year) in droves and pulling money out of the market it could get interesting.

Wouldn't it be smarter to leave the capital invested & live off the return?
As soon as you start living off your capital there's a finite time until you end up with nothing.

[Voltaire]

Wouldn't it be smarter to leave the capital invested & live off the return?
As soon as you start living off your capital there's a finite time until you end up with nothing.

On the face of it yes, but I think a lot of people have been burnt in the US stock market and while its running along nicely past the 9 year stage as they say bull runs don't die of old age.
US companies have taken advantage of Quantitative Easing and cheap interest to expand but it can only go on so long.
Google the top 10 most indebted companies and its scary numbers, probably why the Federal Reserve are keeping the rates down.

[Ocean1]

I did read an article saying that with the US Boomers retiring ( 100 000 per year) in droves and pulling money out of the market it could get interesting.

Never mind the various investment related markets, how much income tax is that disappearing from the books?

I suspect it's the biggest hit our economy will take in the next decade as well.

[sidecar bob]

This is about when investors will dump their shares & go property, re igniting the cooling housing market. Bravo!

How right was I with that prediction.
Not helped of course by labour buying up existing houses against first home buyers, and pretending that those homes have somehow added to
housing stock.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/04/government-buys-hundreds-of-houses-in-direct-competition-with-first-home-buyers.html

[sidecar bob]

It was crashing i.e. the crash was happening, and it was propped up using printed money. No mystery. But keep looking for evidence to back your position........ :killingme

That printed money is still standing up.:killingme:killingme:killingme
Not long now for sure.:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:kill ingme

[mashman]

That printed money is still standing up.:killingme:killingme:killingme
Not long now for sure.:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:kill ingme

Of course it is. That's kind of the point behind printing it instead of creating it against some asset... duh.
As mentioned, it's been here for a while... but only human beings understand such things.

[Viking01]

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2021/07/the-fed-announces-plans-to-permanently-backstop-wall-street-with-a-standing-repo-loan-facility-of-500-billionstarting-tomorrow/

[mashman]

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2021/07/the-fed-announces-plans-to-permanently-backstop-wall-street-with-a-standing-repo-loan-facility-of-500-billionstarting-tomorrow/

Kind of inevitable really. They had no choice but to formalise the process that was keeping the economy afloat. Same as Glass-Steagall. Only stays quiet if the practice and proceeds are restricted to the club, which is pretty hard to do with a few extra trillion lying around and an economy that's finding it hard to shift it in any meaningful way. Not surprising that some people start to ask questions and come up with answers that are unpopular given what job public knows about financial and economic theory.

[R650R]

The share market is a giant casino for its owners to launder dirty money and play games with companies they don’t like. Their toy will be plugged in for as long as it’s useful for THEM.

The more likely scenario will be a govt mandated bail in.... this is where the economy/share market or banks implode due to our selfish consumer debt and greed....
And to ‘save’ the system they will take away 10-15% of your cash/assets and give it to the failing party....
And you will like it and love your govt for saving you.... every time they do it....