View Full Version : The more I see one, the more I want it
matrox02
23rd March 2014, 17:13
Been seeing the 2013 cb500f about and had a sit on one and I felt comfortable on it compared to my dr650, question is... Is it worth upgrading? The Dr only has 9850 ish kms on it and is super tidy, but not exactly road friendly for me as I'm a short are and have to slump over one side to get a flat foot down, though is much easier to handle on its new road tyrea, no such issue on the cb... I think the Dr is worth about 8k on the current market as well, what's others views?
Grashopper
23rd March 2014, 17:52
Hat a sit on the CB500f the other day at the toy run. It now battles directly against the Duke 390 on top of my list for my next bike (in a few years or after winning the lotto, whatever comes first lol)
So yes, go for the Honda.
Doesn't sound like you would miss the DR650 much anyway. Only keeping a bike because it is newish and tidy seems like a waste of time you could better spend on a bike you love and you're happy with.
Ender EnZed
23rd March 2014, 19:13
compared to my dr650, question is... Is it worth upgrading?
No.
I think the Dr is worth about 8k on the current market as well, what's others views?
You're dreaming; they're only $9k for a brand new one.
matrox02
23rd March 2014, 19:17
Sounds like sound advice, though that could be because that's what I want to hear haha, I'll take one out for a test ride tomorrow and then think it over good and proper, the another thing is that the Dr is lighter but feels like it takes up a lot of space, didn't feel like that on my cbr250 that I had a while ago so I'm hoping to find a happy medium between them
matrox02
23rd March 2014, 19:21
No.
You're dreaming; they're only $9k for a brand new one.
That's true, its 9k for a brand new one + orc, so what's it actually worth? Iv recently seen a rough as guts one sell for 7500 and had 30k on the clock, and the reason its not worth upgrading?
nerrrd
23rd March 2014, 19:34
I went from my single f650 to a CB500X...different but the same. I was surprised by how much 'squirt' there is in the throttle compared to the lazy/roll-on acceleration of the f650, it's actually quite touchy I find. Moar gear changing required at higher speeds though to get any decent acceleration (for overtaking, anyway).
I've got 4000k on mine now, I can't fault the way it has performed for me, except...the whole package is staring to feel a little 'anaemic' now, maybe a little lacking on the personality front. It was a practical decision for me, maybe I should have been a little less sensible about it.
I have to say though that the seat on mine is the most comfortable seat I think I've ever sat on, no numbness at all for me, the F seat might be different though.
matrox02
23rd March 2014, 19:38
I went from my single f650 to a CB500X...different but the same. I was surprised by how much 'squirt' there is in the throttle compared to the lazy/roll-on acceleration of the f650, it's actually quite touchy I find. Moar gear changing required at higher speeds though to get any decent acceleration (for overtaking, anyway).
I've got 4000k on mine now, I can't fault the way it has performed for me, except...the whole package is staring to feel a little 'anaemic' now, maybe a little lacking on the personality front. It was a practical decision for me, maybe I should have been a little less sensible about it.
I have to say though that the seat on mine is the most comfortable seat I think I've ever sat on, no numbness at all for me, the F seat might be different though.
Yeah I saw your F650 up for sale at Botany when you had swapped, Was kinda interested in your thoughts about it,yeah i can see that it would feel that way after a while, and the cb500f seat is spectacular, I wont need to lose a gel seat on a long trip with this one :P
Ender EnZed
23rd March 2014, 20:47
That's true, its 9k for a brand new one + orc, so what's it actually worth? Iv recently seen a rough as guts one sell for 7500 and had 30k on the clock, and the reason its not worth upgrading?
I'd imagine you'd need to shell out roughly $5k in addition to your DR in order to get yourself a slightly heavier bike with no extra power that you can't take as many places. You could get a pretty flash seat for the DR for a lot less than that.
You mentioned the height of the DR is a bit of an issue; is yours already adjusted to the lowest setting?
matrox02
23rd March 2014, 20:59
I'd imagine you'd need to shell out roughly $5k in addition to your DR in order to get yourself a slightly heavier bike with no extra power that you can't take as many places. You could get a pretty flash seat for the DR for a lot less than that.
You mentioned the height of the DR is a bit of an issue; is yours already adjusted to the lowest setting?
Yes, at leased without going for an extended cross link thing, and im not worried about not being able to take it as many places, I have a Dirt bike for that :P, otherwise yeah, same power and an extra 30 kgs heavier, but more torque, so should even out? Im not really after speed, and the dr isnt as good as road use as the cb unless i convert to 17's and thats expensive :S
98tls
23rd March 2014, 20:59
I'd imagine you'd need to shell out roughly $5k in addition to your DR in order to get yourself a slightly heavier bike with no extra power that you can't take as many places. You could get a pretty flash seat for the DR for a lot less than that.
You mentioned the height of the DR is a bit of an issue; is yours already adjusted to the lowest setting?
What he said,tis your $ and do as you wish but doesnt seem to me your gaining anything...at all.
Ender EnZed
23rd March 2014, 22:24
Im not really after speed, and the dr isnt as good as road use as the cb unless i convert to 17's and thats expensive :S
Is there something about the way the DR rides you don't like or are you just after a change?
Is them both being LAMS approved just a coincidence or are you only considering learner legal bikes?
Ender EnZed
23rd March 2014, 22:27
Go have a ride on a CB anyway. That'll probably answer your question.
matrox02
23rd March 2014, 22:28
Is there something about the way the DR rides you don't like or are you just after a change?
Is them both being LAMS approved just a coincidence or are you only considering learner legal bikes?
Yeah, I dont liek the way the Dr handles, feels too top heavy, and doesnt filter well through traffic with me, I didnt mind it at first and thought it was just because i was coming from a sports bike and ill learn to get used to it, but nah, even with the road tires I don't like how it corners, and its not a coincidence, I was looking at only learners, I looked at the suzuki gsx650fu as well but that thing feels un neededly large
matrox02
23rd March 2014, 23:39
Yeah, I dont liek the way the Dr handles, feels too top heavy, and doesnt filter well through traffic with me, I didnt mind it at first and thought it was just because i was coming from a sports bike and ill learn to get used to it, but nah, even with the road tires I don't like how it corners, and its not a coincidence, I was looking at only learners, I looked at the suzuki gsx650fu as well but that thing feels un neededly large
Eh, Naf that noise, Decided its best just to wait the rest of my license out then actually look at alll my options, thanks for your advises otherwise :niceone:
iYRe
24th March 2014, 09:48
Rode with a guy on saturday who was on a 2014 model CB500F. Handles wickedly well, and he reckons he was having more fun on that than his 2013 CBR1000.
He had to slow down for me on the windy bits and kept up nicely on the straight bits (although we werent really going hammer and tongs). He's a fairly tallish chap and he seemed pretty damn comfortable
Ender EnZed
24th March 2014, 10:17
Eh, Naf that noise, Decided its best just to wait the rest of my license out then actually look at alll my options, thanks for your advises otherwise :niceone:
Sounds like a better plan than taking the depreciation hit on a new bike that you might not wanna keep too long after you get your full.
You could also consider picking up a cheapish GS500 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-705555474.htm) to last you through if you're sick of the DR. It won't be as nice as a new CB500 but will ride a lot more like the CB than the DR. If you're careful, it might not cost you anything compared to sticking with the DR either.
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