ATNR Junior (Auckland Thursday Night Ride- Junior)

[Juniper]

So this ride is in conjunction with the ATNR (Auckland Thursday Night Ride) (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/33348-ATNR-(Auckland-Thursday-night-ride)-Discussion-thread/page566) but aimed at Learner riders/ Slower riders/ 250 Riders. We try to keep to the pace of the slower riders so that no one gets left out or behind. Big kids are more than welcome if you would like a relaxing ride or to pass some riding skills onto the more learner ones in the group. The ride takes about 1-1/2hours and is about 75-80km long.



Where: Mobil Petrol Station on Oteha Valley Road Click for Google Maps Link (https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/PSL+Mobil+Oteha+Valley/@-36.716959,174.714694,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x6d0d3ba36ced47e1:0x6ba97 ce0daec05bc)

(https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/PSL+Mobil+Oteha+Valley/@-36.716959,174.714694,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x6d0d3ba36ced47e1:0x6ba97 ce0daec05bc)
When: Leave 6.45-7pm in summer and 6.30-6.45 in winter (to avoid riding in too much dark) 1-1/2hr ride


Route: A few twisties, a few straights, a few nice curves. Sometimes changes. ;) about 75-80km long. Finish up at BAR AFRICA Cnr of William Pikering Dr and Omega Place, Albany (https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/Bar+Africa/@-36.753569,174.70698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x6d0d395f318d70e7:0xea990 f1cfaad60ef).

Structure: The Lead and TEC (Tail End Charlie) are comparatively experienced riders who know the route well. No one goes in front or behind these people. If the group stretches out we wait at intersections (where safe) to regroup as a whole. We ride in staggered formation.

Why: Just cause... Kids like to ride too (Not referring to age, all ages welcome lol)





I started this ride with a few L riders a while ago because I wanted to ride on Thursdays and then catch up with the others at the pub, but felt really bad holding the more experienced riders up on the corners. It seems to have grown and we would love to see new faces, even if I cannot make it.



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Disclaimer: I am NOT a teacher or an experienced rider. Just a person who likes to ride with other similar paced riders. Any advice or tips I give are stuff that I've picked up along the way from places/groups like NASS (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/77111-North-Auckland-Street-Skills-NASS/page405), advice I picked up on the L's rides (Thank you Maha and Mom), and other experienced riders that have mentored me along the way. I firmly believe that there is no absolute right way to ride, other than staying on your bike, so take all the advice you get and see what works for you.
You participate on this ride at your own risk. I will not be held accountable for anyone's actions, to/from or during the ride.. Anyone who is caught endangering or intimidating others by their actions will be asked to leave the ride and refused entry to forthcoming rides! This is a learner supportive ride, not a show off loose cannon ride.

I will not be responsible for people ending up god knows where due to not listening to instructions nor the TEC system failing. If the group stretches out we wait on corners to regroup as a whole.

[bawked]

Won't be able to make it tonight unfortunately.... red baron taking their sweet time with my bike. Next week for sure though!

[Juniper]

Won't be able to make it tonight unfortunately.... red baron taking their sweet time with my bike. Next week for sure though!

Sweet. See you next week. ZXR's unite?

[RuoskaNZ]

Sorry, stuffed that one. Found gas and headed home. Sorry for splitting the group.
Tried finding the bar but got lost, will see ya next week.

[kchoz]

Hi all,

I've only just got my Learner's a week and a half ago and while I've ridden around my local area a little since, I am obviously very new and quite inexperienced. I've hit 80km/h on Fred Taylor Drive near westgate a few times but haven't been on the motorway yet.

I was just wondering if it'd be too soon for me to join you guys on a ride this thursday. Should I ride around solo a little longer before attempting a group ride?


cheers

[Juniper]

Hi all,

I've only just got my Learner's a week and a half ago and while I've ridden around my local area a little since, I am obviously very new and quite inexperienced. I've hit 80km/h on Fred Taylor Drive near westgate a few times but haven't been on the motorway yet.

I was just wondering if it'd be too soon for me to join you guys on a ride this thursday. Should I ride around solo a little longer before attempting a group ride?


cheers

Nope this would be the perfect group for you. I'd also suggest coming along to NASS on Wednesday if you can.

[TheDemonLord]

I'll probably rock on up after I get my restricted and come have a hoon with yous

[kchoz]

Nope this would be the perfect group for you. I'd also suggest coming along to NASS on Wednesday if you can.

Awesome! Yeah I want to come along to NASS but timing clashes with something else atm. Will try to make it someday

[kchoz]

I've managed to get myself available for the NASS event tonight but unfortunately I can't make the ATNR tmro :(. Will join you guys next thursday.

Cheers

[Juniper]

I've managed to get myself available for the NASS event tonight but unfortunately I can't make the ATNR tmro :(. Will join you guys next thursday.

Cheers

Sweet, there should be a few of us dedicated ones lol.

I can promise you that the winter riding will be aimed at the really learner group. Mainly cause I'm as blind as a bat at night so wont be going any sort of fast at all. Need to work on my night riding too. Been a bit scared of late.

[DanielM8]

Sweet, there should be a few of us dedicated ones lol.

I can promise you that the winter riding will be aimed at the really learner group. Mainly cause I'm as blind as a bat at night so wont be going any sort of fast at all. Need to work on my night riding too. Been a bit scared of late.

Beware of dogs. HAHAHA (You can hit me for that later)

[GravelRashKid]

The weather forecast isn't looking too great is it?
If it's wet tonight, then I'll skip the big kids ride and join the juniors. I'm happy to be TEC.

[Juniper]

Depending on work I may or may not be able to make it.

[GSeX]

I'm gonna pass tonight

[Juniper]

Weathers looking good. And Paitence running thin at work.

[Red Dog]

Im in, should clear latter tonight....hopefully :niceone:

[Juniper]

Anyone else coming?

[bawked]

I came but everyone was just taking off and I was empty, what a waste of a trip haha

[gjm]

Anyone else coming?

:no:

One day...

[Juniper]

:no:

One day...

Good boy!! Now hurry up and get that motorbike!! It's wonderful wet weather today!!


Had a good ride.

I thought I saw you head onto the motorway going south????
See you next week then?


Had a nice group. More than the big kids!!! :p I was working on some line skills I picked up from NASS last night.

[GravelRashKid]

I came but everyone was just taking off and I was empty, what a waste of a trip haha

What a shame we didn't recognise you! We got away a bit late too, due to a wardrobe failure (departure planned for 6:45).
We'll see you next week then.

[bawked]

Ah, i thought 7 was the leaving time. Yeah maybe next week

[Juniper]

Ah, i thought 7 was the leaving time. Yeah maybe next week

6.45 in winter. I dont likes the cold!!

[GSeX]

Good ride tonight, nice pace but a shame a few had to branch off halfway

[Juniper]

Whose going tonight? Tbh I'm fuckingg shattered.

[DanielM8]

Whose going tonight? Tbh I'm fuckingg shattered.

I'll be at the bar. Ginny is sold, so last days with her lol :)

[Juniper]

I'm not keen tonight sorry boys.
I think I'm going to bail on the ride tonight. I stink like cat piss on my textiles and my boots are wet on the inside.

[GravelRashKid]

See you all at 6:30 tonight.
I'll be the one wearing thermals and a rainsuit.

[Juniper]

Heavy with hail........ http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/north-shore

So whose going??

[GravelRashKid]

I'm in tonight.

[angle]

I'll drop by the pub on my way from work.

[GravelRashKid]

Anyone interested in a day ride this Saturday 31 May?
Check out the thread for "Regular weekend rides".

[TheDemonLord]

this still happening?

[Juniper]

this still happening?

Kinda put on hold till better weather.... Mainly due to the fact I can't see in the dark very well. But just cause I'm out for a couple of months doesn't mean others can't enjoy!!

I'm sure if you post people will follow!!

Remember to layer up!!

[TheDemonLord]

Depending on work - I *Might* be along - but not really keen if it is just me there by my lelf

[Ntoxcated]

You may want to pick a different destination. Bar Africa has a $10 cover charge for a 'Men Only' evening. :blink:

[Juniper]

Haha yes I did get an email about that!!

[GSeX]

Depending on work - I *Might* be along - but not really keen if it is just me there by my lelf

Have work till 9 but definitely keen to continue ATNR Jr if others are interested. Only thing is im not the quickest rider so need a more experienced leader probably

[TheDemonLord]

9 is too late - I was thinking about pulling off the Mway as I go past around 5-5:30 and seeing who was there, but if no one else is going, probably won't bother

[Juniper]

So it's daylight savings this Sunday! Whose keen for ATNR Junor next Thursday?!?

[TheDemonLord]

Could be persuaded....

[GSeX]

I have some Thursdays free, would be interested

[DanielM8]

I'd be up for it!

[5ive]

Keen, if the weather is good.

[Juniper]

Awesome!! The old crew and some more!

[Juniper]

So meet at 6.15 and leave at 6.30??

Whose keen??

[DanielM8]

So meet at 6.15 and leave at 6.30??

Whose keen??

I won't be able to make it this week, I have something else on tonight. Seeya next week.

[GSeX]

Have work tonight :( next week

[Juniper]

Yeeeaaaahhhhh: http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/north-shore


Um I think next week should be the start of ATNRJ

[5ive]

Yeah, have been watching the live video feed from TV3's Skytower weather camera. That rain rolled in pretty quickly over the last ten minutes.

[Juniper]

me thinks I might head home now just to avoid getting caught in it

[Juniper]

Yes, no, maybe?

[Stryke]

Im going for a cruise tonight.
Anyone keen to come along?

[Juniper]

I'm going for a bit of a blat today instead. I'll be heading down to the track tonight.

10am westgate if your keen

[Stryke]

Ill be at Oteha 18:45 leaving 19:00 if anyone feels the inclination.

[Stryke]

Anyone keen for a ride tonight?

[Juniper]

Sorry heading south tonight.

[GSeX]

You guys riding tomorrow?

[Stryke]

Im keen, weather should be good for it as well.

[Juniper]

Maybe, Maybe not. Depends on if Mum wants to shout me dinner or not.

(jobless so any free meals are a bonus)

[5ive]

I'll be along if I remember and can finish work with enough time to get there.

[Stryke]

So who's still keen?
Meet up 18:45, leave 19:00.

[GSeX]

I'll be along to leave 7pm

[Stryke]

Alright, whos keen for a blat tonight?
Meet up 18:45 leave 19:00

[Juniper]

Even though the weather is absolutely amazing and I now have my restricted I'm so absolutely shattered that I wouldn't dare ride :(

[Braden]

Im keen, me and a mate will be there. :ride:

[Ninjacookie]

Hi everyone! I'm definitely keen to come along for some rides in the future!

Glad to see there's a few options for social riding out there!

[Stryke]

Awesome always good to have more people along, ill see you there on a Thursday... if I get my bike fixed by then.

[Pound]

Wish there was something like this in Hamilton....

Lucky for me, I'll be back living on the shore beginning of the year.

Woooo!:yes:

[5ive]

Awesome always good to have more people along, ill see you there on a Thursday... if I get my bike fixed by then.

Have you been using the road surface to try and make your fairings look symmetrical again? ;)

[Juniper]

Awesome always good to have more people along, ill see you there on a Thursday... if I get my bike fixed by then.

What happened to your bike!? (this time)


I suppose I should probably come along again, considering I kinda did start it lol!!!! :facepalm:

[Stryke]

Geez you make it sound like I do that sort of thing frequently, iv only been along the ground once more since that time at NASS.

Some [insert appropriate expletive here] messed with my bike on Friday night/Saturday morning.

[Juniper]

Geez you make it sound like I do that sort of thing frequently, iv only been along the ground once more since that time at NASS.

Some [insert appropriate expletive here] messed with my bike on Friday night/Saturday morning.

:crazy: Who did what?!?! I hope the nurses forget their pain meds!!

[Jezxa]

Geez you make it sound like I do that sort of thing frequently, iv only been along the ground once more since that time at NASS.

Some [insert appropriate expletive here] messed with my bike on Friday night/Saturday morning.

Bastards.

I thought you were just talking about your toothless sprocket :D

[GSeX]

Bastards.

I thought you were just talking about your toothless sprocket :D

Toothless sprockets and loose chains are trending this summer

[5ive]

He had just fixed the sprocket, maybe he shouldn't of...

[Stryke]

Anyone keen for a ride tonight?
Let me know before 17:15.

[Juniper]

Anyone keen for ATNR junior tonight?

[jeeron]

keen http://micapeak.com/DPG/cartoons/mg_bird.gif

[kiwi-on-wheels]

DAMNIT!!!! just saw this... shall keep this on the cards!!

[jeeron]

I`ll be going for a ride tonight. Was thinking about grabbing scenic dr. I`m desperate for some corners.

[GravelRashKid]

I`ll be going for a ride tonight. Was thinking about grabbing scenic dr. I`m desperate for some corners.

Most of Scenic Drive is good at the moment. However there's a stretch of about 5kms that's rubbish new seal. Friends had to strip all 4 car brakes after going over that road.

[Juniper]

Mr Mans bike is deaded so were lamenting at home.

[GravelRashKid]

Mr Mans bike is deaded so were lamenting at home.

You could take Mr Man on the back of your bike...

[Juniper]

You could take Mr Man on the back of your bike...

Hahahahahahahahahahahah




No

[koi]

This still up and running? I'd be keen to come along tomorrow as I've just recently got my Learners' and I'd be keen to get out on the road with other people so it wouldn't be as scary ahaha ;v;

[Stryke]

Havnt been out on one of these for ages, but unfortunately its going to be raining tomorrow. Try again next week and ill see if I can come out for a cruise with you. NASS is excellent as well, if you can head out on a Wednesday.

[koi]

Havnt been out on one of these for ages, but unfortunately its going to be raining tomorrow. Try again next week and ill see if I can come out for a cruise with you. NASS is excellent as well, if you can head out on a Wednesday.

NASS was so good ahhh I went tonight for the end practice bit at the carpark and it was incredible I learned so much in less than an hour ahaha :')

[5ive]

Havnt been out on one of these for ages, but unfortunately its going to be raining tomorrow. Try again next week and ill see if I can come out for a cruise with you. NASS is excellent as well, if you can head out on a Wednesday.

Yeah man, I'm keen as well if the weather is good next week.

[5ive]

NASS was so good ahhh I went tonight for the end practice bit at the carpark and it was incredible I learned so much in less than an hour ahaha :')

Nice one! I've learnt heaps from NASS as well, really helped my low-speed riding, u-turns, etc.

[Juniper]

Yeah unfortunately this ride gets a bit quiet in winter. Mainly due to the fact I'm totally blind at night!!

[Juniper]

Sooooo day-light savings has kicked in..... I'm thinking in a week or 2 we might start this up again.

[TheDemonLord]

I could be tempted - since Change Control (at work) is on Wednesday nights - I haven't been able to attend.

[The End]

Sooooo day-light savings has kicked in..... I'm thinking in a week or 2 we might start this up again.

Another stunner today - I'm keen for a hoon after work tonight.

[Juniper]

Another stunner today - I'm keen for a hoon after work tonight.

Maybe, maybe not for me. Something has come up and I just don't have it in me to ride. I shall let the masons know and they may be keen for a pootle with you.

[DanielM8]

Maybe, maybe not for me. Something has come up and I just don't have it in me to ride. I shall let the masons know and they may be keen for a pootle with you.

Alright guys,
I'll make it official and organise this tonight ;)

The same meeting place/time/route applies as usual, the details are below as a reminder for everyone.

Where: Mobil Petrol Station on Oteha Valley Road Click for Google Maps Link (https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/PSL+Mobil+Oteha+Valley/@-36.716959,174.714694,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x6d0d3ba36ced47e1:0x6ba97 ce0daec05bc)


When: Leave 6.45-7pm in summer and 6.30-6.45 in winter (to avoid riding in too much dark) 1-1/2hr ride


Route: A few twisties, a few straights, a few nice curves. Sometimes changes. about 75-80km long. Finish up at BAR AFRICA Cnr of William Pikering Dr and Omega Place, Albany (https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/Bar+Africa/@-36.753569,174.70698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x6d0d395f318d70e7:0xea990 f1cfaad60ef).

Structure: The Lead and TEC (Tail End Charlie) are comparatively experienced riders who know the route well. No one goes in front or behind these people. If the group stretches out we wait at intersections (where safe) to regroup as a whole. We ride in staggered formation.

[The End]

Alright guys,
I'll make it official and organise this tonight ;)



Cheers mate, great night out for a ride

Hopefully more people show up next time :banana:

[Juniper]

Zoomey zoom zoom zoom.

[Juniper]

No zoomey?

[GSeX]

Anybody still there?

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[Stryke]

Ride.
Oteha Mobil.
Meet: 19:20.
Leave: 19:30.

[Pound]

Ride.
Oteha Mobil.
Meet: 19:20.
Leave: 19:30.

Is this tonight?

[Stryke]

Haha missed that piece of information eh?
Yearp tonight: 21/01/16

[Pound]

Haha missed that piece of information eh?
Yearp tonight: 21/01/16

Sounds good.

Pen pen and i will be there :)

[Juniper]

Yeah I'm thinking so too.

[Pound]

Yeah I'm thinking so too.

Pen pen would like that :)

[Juniper]

Pen pen would like that :)

Pen Pen????

[Pound]

Pen Pen????

The penguin.....:)

[Juniper]

The penguin.....:)

Dude where'd you go?

[Juniper]

The penguin.....:)

We're off to Bar Africa if you would like to join.

Allergic to the rain lol

[Pound]

Dude where'd you go?


Hey sorry about that.

Honestly?

I felt out of my depth riding with you guys (I still consider myself very much a learner rider, dispite having my full) and was very uncomfortable with my lack of skill taking corners like that going at those speeds. I am a very slow and sedate rider, and was expecting a whole bunch of leaner riders on 250s that I could just pottle along with. Definitely need to up my confidence and skill levels, so I'm looking forward to attending NASS next week on Wednesday.

Love your bike by the way! (Looks even better in person)

:)

[haydes55]

Hey sorry about that.

Honestly?

I felt out of my depth riding with you guys (I still consider myself very much a learner rider, dispite having my full) and was very uncomfortable with my lack of skill taking corners like that going at those speeds. I am a very slow and sedate rider, and was expecting a whole bunch of leaner riders on 250s that I could just pottle along with. Definitely need to up my confidence and skill levels, so I'm looking forward to attending NASS next week on Wednesday.

Love your bike by the way! (Looks even better in person)

:)
Not being pressured to keep up and riding your own ride so you feel comfortable... nice work dude. Prehaps carry on with the ride til you catch up and let someone know you're leaving first, might be helpful.

Anyway nice work, ride your own ride.

[nzspokes]

Not being pressured to keep up and riding your own ride so you feel comfortable... nice work dude. Prehaps carry on with the ride til you catch up and let someone know you're leaving first, might be helpful.

Anyway nice work, ride your own ride.

Agreed. Good work.

[Juniper]

Hey sorry about that.

Honestly?

I felt out of my depth riding with you guys (I still consider myself very much a learner rider, dispite having my full) and was very uncomfortable with my lack of skill taking corners like that going at those speeds. I am a very slow and sedate rider, and was expecting a whole bunch of leaner riders on 250s that I could just pottle along with. Definitely need to up my confidence and skill levels, so I'm looking forward to attending NASS next week on Wednesday.

Love your bike by the way! (Looks even better in person)

:)

Hey dude we're really sorry about that, that's not what ATNRJ was started for. As I could see you behind me I thought you were ok, but when we didnt see you after the intersection we all panicked and started checking everywhere for you.
Luke said you were riding perfectly fine so we were really confused about why you left, that's what the TEC is for to make sure everyone is ok. And the Lead always stops at intersections to check that he can see all riders behind him.

We made the wrong assumption after seeing your awesome bike. It's not a mistake we will make again, I will go back to doing my original ATNRJ riding brief no matter which bike turns up.

Always ride your own ride. Please do feel free to come along next week, we are actually a bunch of supportive riders as we have all been in your shoes before, and that's why I started ATNRJ.

Personally in the past I have ended up in tears after having the same thing done to me, so you have no idea how bad I feel about this.
I look forward to seeing you on Wednesday.

[Pound]

Prehaps carry on with the ride til you catch up and let someone know you're leaving first, might be helpful.

Anyway nice work, ride your own ride.

Yeah sorry about that, I know I should have, and I felt like a dick for just turning off, but I felt that I tried to keep up, I probably would have crashed, so I made a decision to slow down, and turn off.

[Pound]

Hey dude we're really sorry about that, that's not what ATNRJ was started for. As I could see you behind me I thought you were ok, but when we didnt see you after the intersection we all panicked and started checking everywhere for you.
Luke said you were riding perfectly fine so we were really confused about why you left, that's what the TEC is for to make sure everyone is ok. And the Lead always stops at intersections to check that he can see all riders behind him.

We made the wrong assumption after seeing your awesome bike. It's not a mistake we will make again, I will go back to doing my original ATNRJ riding brief no matter which bike turns up.

Always ride your own ride. Please do feel free to come along next week, we are actually a bunch of supportive riders as we have all been in your shoes before, and that's why I started ATNRJ.

Personally in the past I have ended up in tears after having the same thing done to me, so you have no idea how bad I feel about this.
I look forward to seeing you on Wednesday.

Hey thanks so much Juniper!

Am very sorry for just turning off, but I really did feel the pressure to keep up, and just didn't feel good about taking anymore corners going at a speed above my skill level.
I was actually in a situation like that when I lived in Hamilton a year ago on my Ninja. I had joined a group of local riders to go for a ride around rural Hamilton back roads, and they were going at a pace that was too much for me to handle, long story short, I almost didn't mange to negotiate a turn and nearly came off going 100kph.......... Needless to say, It scared the crap out of me!

From then on, I said to myself "Don't try and be a macho idiot and try to ride beyond your abilities and experience levels"

Since then, I've done quite a bit of reading about riding and the mental, and emotional side of things, and how we are all susceptible to peer pressure somewhat (Not a good thing when biking!) and I also attended and Ride safe bronze course and have since learned to try and not to put too much pressure on myself, because I know that if I do that it will lead to me having an accident sooner or later.

Anyway, I do hope you guys enjoyed the ride, and it was a pleasure to meet you all, you're certainly a warm and friendly bunch, with some sweet skills and bikes to match!


*In best Japanese accent*

FORGIVENESS PLEASE! :)

[eldog]

Hey thanks so much Juniper! I really did feel the pressure to keep up, and just didn't feel good about taking anymore corners going at a speed above my skill level.

That's a problem with joining a group ride.
Everyone learns at a different pace and have varying skill levels.

You should go along next week, but ride at the level/speed that YOU feel comfortable with
The others will follow

Put yourself behind the leader, great place to see what to look for and avoid.
Let someone Rider in charge (RIC) or Tail End Charlie (TEC) know if you want to pull out

If your really unsure, tell the TEC that you will follow but may fall behind or stop and not to worry about you BEFORE you start.
Is a great way to observe the riders in front and you can pull out no worries

You should go along next week, you will improve and look back in a few months at your improvement.

[5ive]

Bugger, looks like I missed out on a good ride. Didn't know this was still a thing.

I'll have to remember to visit KB more often so I don't miss out.

[hokckeyholic]

Just out of curiosity, is this still happening? Just got my lisense and sounds like something I'd be keen on :)

[Juniper]

Just out of curiosity, is this still happening? Just got my lisense and sounds like something I'd be keen on :)

Hey, It hasent been running in a while mainly due to weather and being winter. But now the sun is lasting longer in the evening we might start again.

There is NASS though that would be good if you have just got your licence. It starts out with an open road ride and then we practice slow speed carpark skills.

There is a Kiwibiker page for NASS but we have now moved to Facebook. Check us out here: https://www.facebook.com/NassNZ