Looks like the rider is 100% at fault don't you think? [Archive]

Big Dog

31st March 2014, 00:34

Got all he deserved. Butt wait that same dick will do it again when he get his nice new bike and go pro.
No sympathy for this one, not even.

^^ +1 except for one minor detail.
Any one else think it strange that the people move came around the corner while the rider has a green light?

Still could And should have saved it if he had spent some of those thousands on rider training.

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Gremlin

31st March 2014, 00:37

^^ +1 except for one minor detail.
Any one else think it strange that the people move came around the corner while the rider has a green light?
Riding on the right, indicates it could be USA. If so, there is a free right turn even on reds, provided you give way to everything else (would be akin to a free left turn for us).

cynna

31st March 2014, 00:38

Haha! I don't get why he would release the video of his handiwork. From 2 angles as well?

waiting for the youtube royalties to roll in maybe?

strandedinnz

31st March 2014, 07:54

Conveniently blurred out speedo :-)

Devil

31st March 2014, 08:21

Like an awful lot of crap drivers, the car wasn't clearly heading for a lane and initially appeared to be heading out to the middle of the road. Rider guessed that was whats happening and aimed under. He guessed wrong.

The Reibz

31st March 2014, 08:26

Riders bike needed a louder exhaust. Then the cager would have known he was there.
Waste of a good bike.

Latte

31st March 2014, 08:32

Gee I wonder why he needed to blur out his speedo.

Banditbandit

31st March 2014, 08:44

It was obvious in the first 7 seconds what was going to happen ..

The rider has a huge anount of money and no road sense ...

pzkpfw

31st March 2014, 08:55

He shouldn't have been in the situation in the first place*, but I reckon he had escape room on the left of the SUV. (Yes, post #16, the SUV swung wide, but soon enough was on the right).

(* due to both his riding, and the SUV)

iranana

31st March 2014, 10:29

Is it just me or does he wait to get on brakes at very the last minute? Could have braked much much sooner IMO. Looks like he's speeding too

TheDemonLord

31st March 2014, 10:44

Ouch!

My first thought is that I would have done the same, but then I am thinking from the perspective of we drive on the left and overtake on the right.

Bad decisions (plural) on the part of the Biker
Bad lane discipline on the part of the Cager (singular)

Gotta go 66 -33 in favour of the Cager on this one

Larksea

31st March 2014, 10:47

hope I'm never dumb enough to try something like that.

biketimus_prime

31st March 2014, 11:23

Reading the comments elsewhere about it, it looks like he's had a couple of crashes before and this was a borrowed bike!
He was going well faster than other traffic and there was so much time to make good decisions.

James Deuce

31st March 2014, 11:42

Every rider can be held responsible for every crash they're involved in, not least because we are held to a much higher standard of road sense and capability by both the authorities and ourselves. Other people can indulge in massive fuckwittery up to and including vehicular homicide with no consequences, provided the vehicle has 4 or more wheels.

A motorcyclist doing a standing wheely on an empty piece of country road can be dobbed in by a quad bike-riding helmetless farmer and charged with careless use of a motor vehicle and sustained loss of traction because the front wheel isn't providing any, on the word of a moron who thinks a flat-deck hilux is the height of vehicular technology.

The guy in the video is just a fuckwit who should stick to punting 911s backwards into hedges. He's not a rider, he's not a motorcyclist, he's not a biker, he's piece of dried giraffe excrement who has been colonised by single-celled organisms excreted from a syphlitic whore's bottom, that has somehow assembled something approching enough sentience to get a license and a paycheck/inheiritance. He didn't make a mistake, he IS a mistake. A cosmically hilarious one.

f2dz

31st March 2014, 12:24

Have been waiting to see this video for a little while now. This guy is a well known motovlogger on YouTube, one of the more popular ones. He's gaining a reputation of being quite a reckless rider really, he's binned an R6 on camera before also.

The Panigale wasn't even his actually either. One of his subscribers on YouTube loaned him it because his bike wasn't running/was stolen or something, I forget.

rastuscat

31st March 2014, 12:40

Yawn. This happens most days in NZ somewhere. And we still find a way to blame the cagers.

pritch

31st March 2014, 12:49

More money than sense. Muppet!

biketimus_prime

31st March 2014, 13:25

pzkpfw

31st March 2014, 13:34

Yawn. This happens most days in NZ somewhere. And we still find a way to blame the cagers.

Credit where it's due, officer, I don't think that's been the attitude in this thread.

James Deuce

31st March 2014, 14:06

Credit where it's due, officer, I don't think that's been the attitude in this thread.

Yes. Just to be clear, my rant was a more a reflection of my perception of the media and officialdom's apparent attitude to motorcycling and the targeted deconstruction of an idiot. Sort of like kicking the ball into his nuts, thereby playing the ball and the man.

tigertim20

31st March 2014, 15:50

what a dick... yeah the car shouldn't have pulled out, .
why not?

^^ +1 except for one minor detail.
Any one else think it strange that the people move came around the corner while the rider has a green light?

Still could And should have saved it if he had spent some of those thousands on rider training.

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not strange at all. in the usa (not sure if that's where the vi was taken) you are allowed, in most states, to take the 'easy turn' even when you have a red light. given the speedo being blanked out, an the rider travelling a reasonable amount faster than the car he passes earlier in the clip, I'd say the fucktard got what he deserved.
You can buy a fancy bike, but you can't buy brains or skill

caspernz

31st March 2014, 18:37

Darwinism in action. Why would one be dumb enough to ride like that, AND post the evidence of said dumbness on Youtube?

His mummy should have swallowed...:rolleyes:

Katman

31st March 2014, 19:10

Some background on how this squid found himself on a Panigale.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/NsIzZVH2lf0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The twat was a crash waiting to happen.

TheDemonLord

31st March 2014, 19:33

Personally - I hate Vlogs,

No problem with someone videoing a ride and then afterwards doing voice over to talk about a topic, but riding while talking results in several things:

1: Long winded rambling as opposed to concise and insightful points
2: a Distracted rider who is thinking about the Views they are going to get on pootube as opposed to the road.

EnzoYug

31st March 2014, 22:27

he was undertaking in slow moving city streets, undertaking a TAXI no less.

asking for it.

Flip

1st April 2014, 10:03

Like all sports bike riders he had more speed than skill.

At least he is off the road for a while.

rustyrobot

1st April 2014, 10:15

Some background on how this squid found himself on a Panigale.

I cannot fathom how anyone could have watched any of this guy's videos and then thought - "I'll lend him my $40k bike to ride for a while". Had initially felt sorry for the bike's owner but really... he cannot be surprised by the outcome.

imdying

1st April 2014, 10:39

The twat was a crash waiting to happen.No exaggeration there.

Did learn something though... a Panigale sounds much like a GPX250.

Like all sports bike riders he had more speed than skill.Heh, that's funny... like most of your ilk your mouth is bigger than your brain :yawn:

Taxythingy

1st April 2014, 11:25

a Panigale sounds just like a GPX250 when it's crashed.

Fixed.

10char

sil3nt

1st April 2014, 12:55

Did learn something though... a Panigale sounds much like a GPX250.
:yes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFbN_qt3HGs

bawked

1st April 2014, 13:13

Headbanger

1st April 2014, 15:58

The only way this video could possibly suck less would be if the champion driver of the 4-wheeled automobile jumped the fuck out and kicked the useless cunt in the fucking nuts while he was rolling around feeling sorry for himself after body slamming himself into that fence.

imdying

1st April 2014, 16:20

:yes:Holy crap... there was a certain amount of piss-take in my post, but it's actually on the money :laugh:

imdying

1st April 2014, 16:22

This guy is such a muppet, the car pulled out when probably it shouldn't have.... but this dude didn't even think about braking and giving himself time. Can't have you braking and being safe on youtube though, gotta be edgy and take small gaps to get subscribers.....I'm not actually surprised, watch his videos, all he does it take those same risks over and over... shame it all caught up with him when he was riding somebody else's expensive toy. No sympathy though, he must have seen his videos before offering it.

pzkpfw

1st April 2014, 16:40

I wonder if the insurance company has "the internet"?

James Deuce

1st April 2014, 19:29

There are no bad roads. Only bad people.

There are only bad insurance companies.

biketimus_prime

1st April 2014, 20:28

I know this isn't a bike, but another example of avoidable accidents. Just happened recently.
Could have been a bike in this situation and he would have come out much worse. However if bike or car was going slower...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfS8iz2NaLE

YellowDog

1st April 2014, 20:43

It's annoying when a car does that in our path, but at least this clever guy taught the cager a life lesson :no:

This is really basic survival stuff and being a dick is not a good strategy :spanking:

yevjenko

5th April 2014, 19:31

Riders bike needed a louder exhaust. Then the cager would have known he was there.
Waste of a good bike.

Have you heard the Panigale? It's not exactly quiet with the standard exhaust, never mind if he's got the Termignoni's on. Went out for a ride with my mate on his Panigale. While at the front of the group I could hear him at the back over everybody else

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Kickaha

5th April 2014, 19:35

Have you heard the Panigale? It's not exactly quiet with the standard exhaust, never mind if he's got the Termignoni's on. Went out for a ride with my mate on his Panigale. While at the front of the group I could hear him at the back over everybody else

In a car with windows up and radio on you wouldn't hear shit, loud pipes do fuck all

Gremlin

5th April 2014, 19:37

In a car with windows up and radio on you wouldn't hear shit, loud pipes do fuck all
I was quite surprised actually. In a van with a mate, him driving. Windows down, 50kph area. Bike comes past, splitting through vehicles. I only heard the bike when he was probably a few metres off the rear quarter of the van. Both of us ride, we both commented how little we heard the bike. I'm picking it was an RSV or similar.

FJRider

5th April 2014, 20:35

I was quite surprised actually. In a van with a mate, him driving. Windows down, 50kph area. Bike comes past, splitting through vehicles. I only heard the bike when he was probably a few metres off the rear quarter of the van. Both of us ride, we both commented how little we heard the bike. I'm picking it was an RSV or similar.

I drive a truck most days ... and even with the windows down I seldom hear them until (as) they pass me. I need to watch the mirrors ... so I usually see them coming. The headlight is a good early warning for those that look for it.

Bikes with standard exhaust systems I seldom hear at any point .... regardless of windows up/down or radio on/off ...

I see a lot of idiot overtaking by bikers traveling either towards me ... or going in the same direction as me ...

It's amazing how much you can see when your bum is 6 feet off the deck ...

yevjenko

5th April 2014, 22:32

I'm not actually surprised, watch his videos, all he does it take those same risks over and over... shame it all caught up with him when he was riding somebody else's expensive toy. No sympathy though, he must have seen his videos before offering it.

It wasn't his bike? Fuck....

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Headbanger

5th April 2014, 22:34

I remember the last time I borrowed someones bike.

wait...

.....never fucking happened.

People are fuckheads.

yevjenko

5th April 2014, 22:42

I've lent my 4/5 grand Suzuki out to friends, but a 40k Ducati? My mate with the Panigale has offered it to me for a ride, but I refused... I'd be too scared I'd drop it.

That's the second borrowed Panigale I've seen totalled in the US on YouTube

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biketimus_prime

6th April 2014, 21:02

A recent video doing the rounds, I think this is what people talk about when they say "target fixation". He came around the corner and instead of looking through it, he looked at the car and went towards it
Newspaper article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594921/Video-motorcyclist-surviving-40ft-fall-Britains-dangerous-road.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYkuYg5qvPI

pritch

6th April 2014, 22:29

I think this is what people talk about when they say "target fixation". He came around the corner and instead of looking through it, he looked at the car and went towards it

That would not seem to be a good illustration of target fixation. He didn't hit the car. He was just going waaaaay too fast for his abiity to take the corner.

Berries

6th April 2014, 23:00

That would not seem to be a good illustration of target fixation. He didn't hit the car. He was just going waaaaay too fast for his abiity to take the corner.
I thought that. Over took his mate, fair enough. Overtook the guy they caught up with, yeah, ok. Perhaps gave it a bit too much in to the next corner to show off? Meh. It was not a hard corner and he should have made it. Probably checking his mirrors at the wrong time.

Moral of the story- Anyone who puts a camera on their bike/helmet is a twat.

Discus.

oneblackflag

6th April 2014, 23:15

Moral of the story- Anyone who puts a camera on their bike/helmet is a twat.

Discus.

60/40 to the twats... They're the ones with the youtube channel 'for the hits'. Good example here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K028FeUWQnk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Plenty of strange crashes from these guys in their other vids. Darwin will sort it.

biketimus_prime

7th April 2014, 21:11

That would not seem to be a good illustration of target fixation. He didn't hit the car. He was just going waaaaay too fast for his abiity to take the corner.

I thought it seemed like he could have easily taken it had he kept looking through it. Assumed he was looking at the car as it came around and by then it was too late to tighten the line as he was heading for it.

60/40 to the twats... They're the ones with the youtube channel 'for the hits'. Good example here:

Plenty of strange crashes from these guys in their other vids. Darwin will sort it.

That video made me pretty angry. What a pair of idiots. The backfiring was hilarious but damn, scaring families and stuff and riding like idiots everywhere is pretty rude.

oneblackflag

7th April 2014, 21:17

That video made me pretty angry. What a pair of idiots. The backfiring was hilarious but damn, scaring families and stuff and riding like idiots everywhere is pretty rude.

In another video he accidently wheelies from an intersection and drops the bike in the middle of the intersection, cracks the case and oil pours all over the road :facepalm:

pritch

7th April 2014, 23:23

I thought it seemed like he could have easily taken it had he kept looking through it. Assumed he was looking at the car as it came around and by then it was too late to tighten the line as he was heading for it

In a classic example of target fixation he would have centre punched the car. There is an attachment I have posted before but it would appear to have some relevance here...

yevjenko

8th April 2014, 08:11

There is an attachment I have posted before but it would appear to have some relevance here...

He he. The inscription says, the bike will always go where the rider is looking

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Mike.Gayner

8th April 2014, 08:21

60/40 to the twats... They're the ones with the youtube channel 'for the hits'. Good example here:

Plenty of strange crashes from these guys in their other vids. Darwin will sort it.

Wow what a pair of fucking wankers.

Ender EnZed

8th April 2014, 09:36

In a classic example of target fixation he would have centre punched the car.

I bet he looked at it more directly and for longer than he should have though. If the car hadn't been there he may well have stayed entirely within his own lane.

f2dz

8th April 2014, 09:43

In another video he accidently wheelies from an intersection and drops the bike in the middle of the intersection, cracks the case and oil pours all over the road :facepalm:

The wheelie was accidental and they're learner riders. They're also teenagers/in their early 20s. I'm sure you were young once?

They're easily not as reckless as the guy on the Panigale, kinda random to compare the two really.

oneblackflag

8th April 2014, 11:25

The wheelie was accidental and they're learner riders. They're also teenagers/in their early 20s. I'm sure you were young once?

They're easily not as reckless as the guy on the Panigale, kinda random to compare the two really.

If you can read, go back and re read what I wrote... I said it was accidental, still stupid and he narrowly missed crashing into the side of the other cars he had filtered past. I was young once yep, but I didn't go round filming my fuck ups so I could get a youtube following. That crash was one of many, even in the intro the other guy nearly goes over then bars stopping for an intersection.

Again if you read what I wrote I wasn't compering It to the other video... It was in reply to Berries comment about how strapping a cam to your helmet turns you into a fuckwit. These guys are prime examples. I did have a laugh watching though.

f2dz

8th April 2014, 15:04

If you can read, go back and re read what I wrote... I said it was accidental, still stupid and he narrowly missed crashing into the side of the other cars he had filtered past. I was young once yep, but I didn't go round filming my fuck ups so I could get a youtube following. That crash was one of many, even in the intro the other guy nearly goes over then bars stopping for an intersection.

Again if you read what I wrote I wasn't compering It to the other video... It was in reply to Berries comment about how strapping a cam to your helmet turns you into a fuckwit. These guys are prime examples. I did have a laugh watching though.

I saw, and I was simply reiterating that it was accidental. Were GoPros around when you were younger? If not, you can hardly judge those two guys for doing what they do. You may have very well done the same if in the same opportunity at the same age.

Strapping a camera to your helmet turns you into a fuckwit as much as riding a motorcycle turns you into a gang member. Laughing at someone else's misfortune kinda makes you the fuckwit.

oneblackflag

8th April 2014, 16:03

I saw, and I was simply reiterating that it was accidental. Were GoPros around when you were younger? If not, you can hardly judge those two guys for doing what they do. You may have very well done the same if in the same opportunity at the same age.

Strapping a camera to your helmet turns you into a fuckwit as much as riding a motorcycle turns you into a gang member. Laughing at someone else's misfortune kinda makes you the fuckwit.

Jesus, im hardly old.

Like I said 60/40 to the twats.... Not 100% like you seem to think I think.

Straping a camera on and being a fuckwit then showing the world hardly helps motorcyclists image does it.

f2dz

8th April 2014, 17:16

Jesus, im hardly old.

Like I said 60/40 to the twats.... Not 100% like you seem to think I think.

Straping a camera on and being a fuckwit then showing the world hardly helps motorcyclists image does it.

Sorry, didn't mean for it to come across like I think you're old and jaded. Just irks me a bit when people get too judgey about the antics of younger people or people who have every right to film their riding if they want to.

Back to the topic of the Panigale and the whole tangent of talking while riding and uploading the footage – I don't see a problem with it at all so long as it doesn't endanger anyone else or anyone else's property. In the OPs video this obviously isn't the case however.

You could even argue that riding with a camera makes you somewhat more accountable for your riding and your actions.