New car adverts

[AllanB]

I've been taking notice for some time of new car advertising on TV.

And it is depressing me :no:

Apart from Alfa it appears the pros of purchasing a new car now revolve around its electronics - blue tooth, wi-fi, touch screens, electronic lane management, park assist, auto rain censoring wipers, anal temperature reading etc etc.

Nary a word about 'performance' or similar - fark one Mitzi advert states 'it's just better' ..........

What's the world coming too?

Look out it will affect motorcycles soon, Honda 700 thingy is a example .......

[Edbear]

Suzuki at least has a sporty ad with the Hyabusa morphing into the Kizashi. From personal experience of owning a Kizashi for nearly three years now, it truly is a sports sedan. But generally you are right, it's not PC to advertise performance these days, which is a shame.

[awa355]

Here's one for ya. from the ' good old days ' A real action ad.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TwOc62YXJc

[nerrrd]

I've been taking notice for some time of new car advertising on TV.

And it is depressing me :no:

Apart from Alfa it appears the pros of purchasing a new car now revolve around its electronics - blue tooth, wi-fi, touch screens, electronic lane management, park assist, auto rain censoring wipers, anal temperature reading etc etc.

Nary a word about 'performance' or similar - fark one Mitzi advert states 'it's just better' ..........

What's the world coming too?

Look out it will affect motorcycles soon, Honda 700 thingy is a example .......

Errr...Honda 700 thingy has...a storage area. And is economical. Doesn't even have ABS in NZ.

You're obviously talking about the latest top of the range BMW / Kwaka / Suzuki / Triumph / Ducati / Aprilia etc with oodles of traction control / power modes etc I hear some of them even have heated grips / seats / stereos (Goldwings, Harleys) electric windscreens and so on.

Shocking state of affairs.

[Gremlin]

Apart from Alfa it appears the pros of purchasing a new car now revolve around its electronics - blue tooth, wi-fi, touch screens, electronic lane management, park assist, auto rain censoring wipers, anal temperature reading etc etc.
The car industry is facing a potential future crisis. Young people today, especially city dwellers are less and less likely to purchase a car. This obviously doesn't apply to New Zealand, as we have shit public transport (and mostly love cars), but otherwise, the car is seen as taking up expensive space, cost of maintenance and if you're driving you can't be fiddling with Facebook/whatever (ok, some don't let that stop them).

Anyway, to appeal to new buyers, this is the track that has been taken. Wifi, bluetooth, a more connected car fitting in with your life style.

[ducatilover]

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[SVboy]

Suzuki at least has a sporty ad with the Hyabusa morphing into the Kizashi. From personal experience of owning a Kizashi for nearly three years now, it truly is a sports sedan. But generally you are right, it's not PC to advertise performance these days, which is a shame.

A BMW m5 is a sports sedan. A Clubman R8 is a sports sedan. A falcon fpv is a sports sedan. A Merc 6.3 AMG is a sports sedan. A lexus is 450F Sport is a sports sedan. A Kizashi is not........but your happy and thats the main thing....

[Ocean1]

Young people today, especially city dwellers are less and less likely to purchase a car. This obviously doesn't apply to New Zealand,

But it does, the percentage of licence holders amongst 20yr olds is dropping heaps.

And it's nothing to do with bling, the whole process is apparently just see as too difficult. And nor is the lack of public transport seen as a problem, they expect their parents and friends to ferry them around.

[Ocean1]

Here's one for ya. from the ' good old days ' A real action ad.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TwOc62YXJc

It was all bullshit even back then I see, that land crab would have expired immediately on contact with any puddle a great deal smaller than that one.

[ducatilover]

It was all bullshit even back then I see, that land crab would have expired immediately on contact with any puddle a great deal smaller than that one.

Don't go there.




It wasn't a landcrab

[bogan]

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Solution, watch better Ads. No mention of bluetooth in that one.


Suzuki at least has a sporty ad with the Hyabusa morphing into the Kizashi. From personal experience of owning a Kizashi for nearly three years now, it truly is a sports sedan.

Less power, 5x the weight, seems legit :rolleyes:

[awa355]

It was all bullshit even back then I see, that land crab would have expired immediately on contact with any puddle a great deal smaller than that one.

My father bought a brand new MG1100 in Sept 1964. Went to pick it up about 5pm. At 7.30 we thought mum and dad had taken it for a decent ride. Turns out they were still at the dealers trying to get the wipers to work.

[AllanB]

That Morris 1100 advert cracked me up. Excellent stuff. I suspect half of the 'urban off-roaders' would not do so well now days - all that mud and shaking may upset their heated cup holders.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yep they don't make em like they used to


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpWzqugO5Q

[Akzle]

fuck.
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[mashman]

fuck.
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Well I spose that's something to do until the shiney stuff becomes appealing again.

[DMNTD]

From personal experience of owning a Kizashi for nearly three years now, it truly is a sports sedan...

You are taking the piss, surly? :mellow:

[Akzle]

You are taking the piss, surly? :mellow:

dunno mann, i dropped opiates once, my single speed raleigh turned into some lance armstrong shit, it was sweeeet

[Edbear]

A BMW m5 is a sports sedan. A Clubman R8 is a sports sedan. A falcon fpv is a sports sedan. A Merc 6.3 AMG is a sports sedan. A lexus is 450F Sport is a sports sedan. A Kizashi is not........but your happy and thats the main thing....


You are taking the piss, surly? :mellow:

Okay, it may be a couple hundy kilowatts short but it handles like a sports car and show it the twisties and you better be on the ball if you want to get ahead of it. It's a very fast car point to point and will be happy when others are falling off the corners. But then I have owned it for nearly three years and know how to get the best out of it. The really fun bit is at the gas station when you see the huge difference between a 2.4lt four and a 5lt V8. ..

But you're right, it's mine and I love it and I am happy. :niceone:

[Flip]

I've been taking notice for some time of new car advertising on TV.

And it is depressing me :no:

Apart from Alfa it appears the pros of purchasing a new car now revolve around its electronics - blue tooth, wi-fi, touch screens, electronic lane management, park assist, auto rain censoring wipers, anal temperature reading etc etc.

Nary a word about 'performance' or similar - fark one Mitzi advert states 'it's just better' ..........

What's the world coming too?

Look out it will affect motorcycles soon, Honda 700 thingy is a example .......

The car makers have forgotten why we buy a vehicle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THgeRlhVs0Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJXEmWIsVk

[SVboy]

Okay, it may be a couple hundy kilowatts short but it handles like a sports car and show it the twisties and you better be on the ball if you want to get ahead of it. It's a very fast car point to point and will be happy when others are falling off the corners. But then I have owned it for nearly three years and know how to get the best out of it. The really fun bit is at the gas station when you see the huge difference between a 2.4lt four and a 5lt V8. ..

But you're right, it's mine and I love it and I am happy. :niceone:

Ed, sorry, I am not going to feed the troll......

[SMOKEU]

Speaking of new cars, I love the Model S. They've got modern V8 like performance too, so not bad at all for an electric car. Integrated web browser too, so you can watch porn while on the mish.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kCG-WqpVnI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndb_4L-6ZP0

[Edbear]

The car makers have forgotten why we buy a vehicle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THgeRlhVs0Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJXEmWIsVk

All manufacturers have a petrol-head or three within the company who would love to build a proper sports car. Scale of operations and the competitive market mean that most have to concentrate on cars for the mass market. However, witness ToySubaru and the GT86/BRZ, shows what they can do when they get the green light.

More power to Lotus and the like!

[Edbear]

Speaking of new cars, I love the Model S. They've got modern V8 like performance too, so not bad at all for an electric car. Integrated web browser too, so you can watch porn while on the mish.]

And a 400km range.

[SMOKEU]

And a 400km range.

Long trips could be a problem, but otherwise it should be more than enough range for most people. That 400km range is only for the flagship model though, the ones with the smaller battery packs have a range not that much greater than a modern sports bike.

[Mike.Gayner]

And a 400km range.

Of course you're fucked if you wanted to go somewhere 600km away, that's suddenly a 2-day journey.

Oh and don't make the mistake of accidentally leaving the car unplugged for a couple of weeks, because that has a repair cost of literally $USD40,000.

[bogan]

Of course you're fucked if you wanted to go somewhere 600km away, that's suddenly a 2-day journey.

Oh and don't make the mistake of accidentally leaving the car unplugged for a couple of weeks, because that has a repair cost of literally $USD40,000.

With a bling-bling car like that, bitches be making the journey to your town, not the other way around.

Also, source? Be highly surprised if it doesn't have a BMS that takes care of the batteries when a charger is not plugged in for long periods; I mean it isn't made by shorai :rolleyes:

[Mike.Gayner]

With a bling-bling car like that, bitches be making the journey to your town, not the other way around.

Also, source? Be highly surprised if it doesn't have a BMS that takes care of the batteries when a charger is not plugged in for long periods; I mean it isn't made by shorai :rolleyes:

http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devastating-design

Ridiculous as apparently this is a continuing issue even with the Model S. Such an easy fix, I have no idea why Tesla haven't addressed it. They're doing their absolute best to not draw any attention to this bricking problem, which means inadequate warnings to owners unfortunately.

edit: Actually a quit google search shows the Model S might not suffer from this problem as the Roadster did. I'm doing a bit more reading now.

[bogan]

http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devastating-design

Ridiculous as apparently this is a continuing issue even with the Model S. Such an easy fix, I have no idea why Tesla haven't addressed it. They're doing their absolute best to not draw any attention to this bricking problem, which means inadequate warnings to owners unfortunately.

edit: Actually a quit google search shows the Model S might not suffer from this problem as the Roadster did. I'm doing a bit more reading now.

Well colour me surprised, must be one hell of a parasitic drain to flatten a battery pack that huge though.

[Geeen]

The car makers have forgotten why we buy a vehicle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THgeRlhVs0Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJXEmWIsVk

Is that second Vid shot at Cadwell Park??

[DMNTD]

Okay, it may be a couple hundy kilowatts short but it handles like a sports car and show it the twisties and you better be on the ball if you want to get ahead of it. It's a very fast car point to point and will be happy when others are falling off the corners. But then I have owned it for nearly three years and know how to get the best out of it. The really fun bit is at the gas station when you see the huge difference between a 2.4lt four and a 5lt V8. ..

But you're right, it's mine and I love it and I am happy. :niceone:

Onya that you enjoy it, but you really need to try out some of the offerings out there these days.
If you were closer to where I now work I'd put you in a few different cars that would enlighten you

[Edbear]

Onya that you enjoy it, but you really need to try out some of the offerings out there these days.
If you were closer to where I now work I'd put you in a few different cars that would enlighten you

I do keep up with much of the latest. The likes of Toyota Hyundai and Honda keep trying to tempt me by offering test drives. I admit that some have caught up to the Kizashi now but to get anything better would cost at least double the price and even more than that would only get me more power. Handling and bling are still at the top of the tree.

I am planning on getting it chipped shortly which will go some way to addressing that.

[DMNTD]

I do keep up with much of the latest. The likes of Toyota Hyundai and Honda keep trying to tempt me by offering test drives. I admit that some have caught up to the Kizashi now but to get anything better would cost at least double the price and even more than that would only get me more power. Handling and bling are still at the top of the tree.

I am planning on getting it chipped shortly which will go some way to addressing that.

$33,990 and I have something that would smoke the doors off it...just saying but heck, I would now wouldn't I :whistle:

[DMNTD]

Any car with suspension like that would sell well for use on ChCh roads

I drove a Citroen C6 for a night, nicest drive I've had down here since I moved in

[bogan]

Toyota Hyundai and Honda

Names synonymous with sports sedan pedigree :killingme

BMWho? Volvon't know what you're talking about? Mercedese don't count? JaguaR U serious?

[Edbear]

$33,990 and I have something that would smoke the doors off it...just saying but heck, I would now wouldn't I :whistle:

True dat, but a different class of car. The immediate competition is the Camry, Mazda 6, Honda Accord, i45, Passat etc. What's your one?

[R650R]

Speaking of new cars, Integrated web browser too, so you can watch porn while on the mish.

nek minnit they be adding an interior window wiper for next years model then...
Watch the crash rate rise with touch screen controls for stuff. Even in my 2001 Nissan for some reason the feckers made all the aircon switches same tiny size and smooth instead of the sensible big chunky controls in like a mitsi...

Just wait till there's a few more electrics on the road and more frequent fires, you know like at the moment how ipads and iphones batteries can just detonate themselves.
Instead of giggling at some numb nutrs in the fast lane whose radiator is starting to steam we'll be getting sprayed with lithium shrapnel when someones battery overheats.
Wonder how the batteries will cope with real world vibration long term as opposed to easy smooth round town roads that the likes of prius etc are usually doing.

[bogan]

Just wait till there's a few more electrics on the road and more frequent fires, you know like at the moment how ipads and iphones batteries can just detonate themselves.

Yeh, let's stick with a highly flammable liquid, cos that never goes poorly :facepalm:

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/07/15/swisscars_wideweb__470x317,0.jpg

[Edbear]

nek minnit they be adding an interior window wiper for next years model then...
Watch the crash rate rise with touch screen controls for stuff. Even in my 2001 Nissan for some reason the feckers made all the aircon switches same tiny size and smooth instead of the sensible big chunky controls in like a mitsi...

Just wait till there's a few more electrics on the road and more frequent fires, you know like at the moment how ipads and iphones batteries can just detonate themselves.
Instead of giggling at some numb nutrs in the fast lane whose radiator is starting to steam we'll be getting sprayed with lithium shrapnel when someones battery overheats.
Wonder how the batteries will cope with real world vibration long term as opposed to easy smooth round town roads that the likes of prius etc are usually doing.

Currently there' are about 6 Lithium based technologies and the batteries like Shorai use LiFePO4 which is inherently safe and why so many are being used in racing. It's been said that if petrol was just now being introduced it would be banned as a fuel for vehicles.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Meh. When I am buying a car the key criteria, in order, are: stereo. heater/a/c. price. perceived value. So I drive a 2l automatic toaster oven. But it bluetooths my phone, and I can play music off the built in USB slot.

Cars are appliances which you buy with your head and wallet. bikes? not so much.

[Gremlin]

Whats the bet that in 10 years time a lot of the electronics will be removed due to being the cause of crashes while people try and play with it while driving.
In 10 years we'd be lucky if we can buy brand new regular self drive cars. All the tech to auto drive is now available, just has to be linked together.

[SMOKEU]

In 10 years we'd be lucky if we can buy brand new regular self drive cars. All the tech to auto drive is now available, just has to be linked together.

With the state of the drivers in this country that might actually be a very good thing.

[Gremlin]

Imagine the lawsuits if such technology was to screw up. Once self drive is introduced it will possibly be another 10 years before the technology bugs are ironed out or it could be scrapped all together depending on the number of lawsuits.
Already being considered and tackled. In some states in the USA the cars have been granted a permit to be on the road, but with a human still present in case of issues occuring and they can take control.

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One of the biggest industrys that could be changed would be stuff like long haul trucking. Trucks could run pretty much 24/7, stopping for gas or when the system raises a service alert.

[Akzle]

Already being considered and tackled. In some states in the USA the cars have been granted a permit to be on the road, but with a human still present in case of issues occuring and they can take control.

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One of the biggest industrys that could be changed would be stuff like long haul trucking. Trucks could run pretty much 24/7, stopping for gas or when the system raises a service alert.

fuck trucks. Whats wrong with maglev trains.
Of course, most of the shit that gets moved doesnt have to be.

[SMOKEU]

Whats the bet that in 10 years time a lot of the electronics will be removed due to being the cause of crashes while people try and play with it while driving. The less electronics the better as far as I am concerned as its not DIY fixable and expensive
to the point if it dies it could mean an excellent car mechanically is written off.

That will never happens since cars won't be able to pass emissions or safety testing. Cars should have more and more electronics added to them, especially things like ESC and other such things to lessen the risk of crashes. Drivers are so bad that they manage to crash into trains, so they need all the help they can get to keep "safe".

[Flip]

Lets not forget the sexy road test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MgzfIT3Qs

[Akzle]

One bit of electronics I do like the sound of though is collision prevention radar which applies the brakes if you come up too fast behind another car but I think the technology only is available for city speeds to stop bumper to bumper crashes. I think it is available in Lexus and Volvos. Would many drivers be able to afford such technology as it will take many years before the masses who buy used cars can afford it.

ive got a better idea.
PAY FUCKING ATTENTION.
I think a 3 foot stainless steel spike should replace the drivers airbag, for crashes that happen under 140km/h.

[AllanB]

Sexy Road Test.


Future cars will be full of electronics - governments will insist on it. Anti-skid brakes are a good example.

[DMNTD]

One bit of electronics I do like the sound of though is collision prevention radar which applies the brakes if you come up too fast behind another car but I think the technology only is available for city speeds to stop bumper to bumper crashes. I think it is available in Lexus and Volvos. Would many drivers be able to afford such technology as it will take many years before the masses who buy used cars can afford it.

Merc, Chrysler, Jeep and a couple of others. Not too expensive really

[vifferman]

A BMW m5 is a sports sedan. A Clubman R8 is a sports sedan. A falcon fpv is a sports sedan. A Merc 6.3 AMG is a sports sedan. A lexus is 450F Sport is a sports sedan. A Kizashi is not........but your happy and thats the main thing....
LOL. A couple of years ago, I was looking at buying my first car in 10 years, so I checked out the Kizashi, as I'd read such good things about it. Drove it about 100m or so up the road, and said to my missus, "What do I do?!? I really don't like this!" Went a km or so down the road, sat in a car park for a few minutes, then drove back to the yard. The salesman bounces up, all excited and enthusiastic, "So - what did you think?!?"
"Um.... I don't like it.":confused:
He was pretty much gob-smacked, but eventually stuttered, "S-s-o, what don't you like about it?"
"The engine, the transmission, the seats, the interior, the handling...."
The keyless entry was OK, but everything else felt WRONG after driving European cars.

[DMNTD]

LOL. A couple of years ago, I was looking at buying my first car in 10 years, so I checked out the Kizashi, as I'd read such good things about it. Drove it about 100m or so up the road, and said to my missus, "What do I do?!? I really don't like this!" Went a km or so down the road, sat in a car park for a few minutes, then drove back to the yard. The salesman bounces up, all excited and enthusiastic, "So - what did you think?!?"
"Um.... I don't like it.":confused:
He was pretty much gob-smacked, but eventually stuttered, "S-s-o, what don't you like about it?"
"The engine, the transmission, the seats, the interior, the handling...."
The keyless entry was OK, but everything else felt WRONG after driving European cars.

Exactly and I don't care what anyone says, a CVT is not an enjoyable transmission.
Must admit that Suzuki do have a creative marketing department though :lol:

[Edbear]

LOL. A couple of years ago, I was looking at buying my first car in 10 years, so I checked out the Kizashi, as I'd read such good things about it. Drove it about 100m or so up the road, and said to my missus, "What do I do?!? I really don't like this!" Went a km or so down the road, sat in a car park for a few minutes, then drove back to the yard. The salesman bounces up, all excited and enthusiastic, "So - what did you think?!?"
"Um.... I don't like it.":confused:
He was pretty much gob-smacked, but eventually stuttered, "S-s-o, what don't you like about it?"
"The engine, the transmission, the seats, the interior, the handling...."
The keyless entry was OK, but everything else felt WRONG after driving European cars.

<_< :bash: :girlfight::ar15::bleh::first:

Lol!

[scumdog]

Meh. When I am buying a car the key criteria, in order, are: stereo. heater/a/c. price. perceived value. So I drive a 2l automatic toaster oven. But it bluetooths my phone, and I can play music off the built in USB slot.

Cars are appliances which you buy with your head and wallet. bikes? not so much.

Me?

Style, class and grunt with a bit of handling thrown it. (but not essential).

You can shove all those fancy electronic gizmos and 'driving aids' up your arse as far as I'm concerned!

[oneofsix]

I bet you would not like a stainless steel spike going through you if you were the innocent party in a head on collision though?

Nope, and that's the point (see what I did there?). You drive careful so no retard makes you an innocent victim, the same way motorcyclists do :facepalm:

The real idea of spike is that the driver is then in touch with the fact that there action have consequences instead of believing they are traveling in a mobile coffee lounge. And it isn't an Akzle original, it came from a British road safety professor.

[Tazz]

http://i.imgur.com/1OXSzCf.jpg?1

[Akzle]

Nope, and that's the point (see what I did there?). You drive careful so no retard makes you an innocent victim, the same way motorcyclists do :facepalm:

The real idea of spike is that the driver is then in touch with the fact that there action have consequences instead of believing they are traveling in a mobile coffee lounge. And it isn't an Akzle original, it came from a British road safety professor.

fuck the british.

[Akzle]

ive got a better idea.
PAY FUCKING ATTENTION.
I think a 3 foot stainless steel spike should replace the drivers airbag, for crashes that happen under 140km/h.
I bet you would not like a stainless steel spike going through you if you were the innocent party in a head on collision though?
no. I want it through your head.
Which is why my car doesnt have any of that gay shit and is made of plate steel rather than leftovers from fisher and paykel.

[gjm]

In an effort to show that there are still decent car ads, I submit for the consideration of the jury.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEec-zfxiQQ