Duc service in Auckland?

[NNN]

HI
After much consideration, i have decided to go for monster 696 over shiver. However the one I am thinking about buying is 2008 with 8K on speedo. I called cyclespot about the 12K service and they said it would cost me around $1000- because they would need to check the belts and all. Is there any other place where i can get it serviced? how good is the motorcycle dr?
The guy i am buying from says the belt don't need replacement until 20K. Still cyclespot says it will be 1000 because they need to check the belts.:brick:
Any suggestions?
Cheers

[f2dz]

A guy from work swears by the Motorcycle Doctor so could be worth calling him for a quote.

A grand for that seems a bit steep to me. Servicing costs are the main thing that puts me off buying anything European.

[Voltaire]

Its suggested for belt drive Ducatis that the belts are changed at 2 years or 10 000 mls ( thats according to the ST Forum).
4 years is a long time and belts apparently don't like to sit in the same position.
I do my own servicing but I have heard good things about http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CC4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Faucklandmotorcycleservices.co.nz% 2F&ei=jydDU9rPKerRiAeSqYCQAw&usg=AFQjCNFcrgqpSOdPRwgVefNQ6bqtVboIfw&sig2=AgjPri6rS9q7ukx-MNyV1A&bvm=bv.64125504,d.aGc

If they are going in as far as the belts it would be worth having a look at valve clearances.
I had a Jap import SS, 8 years old, mint with 17K on it and the belts were cracked and loose, valves were fine.

I have to check the valves and change the belts on my ST4s.... its a mission as you have to take off the mirrors, fairing, battery...etc.
I'm not so keen on modern bikes, took me less than an hour to take the gearbox out of my 74 R90s.

[swarfie]

I'm not so keen on modern bikes, took me less than an hour to take the gearbox out of my 74 R90s.

Yeah I'm getting good at that too...an hour? Jeez what took you so long :lol:

[Voltaire]

Yeah I'm getting good at that too...an hour? Jeez what took you so long :lol:
Tired after a hard day at the office.:innocent:

[yevjenko]

I may be wrong but I heard that duc's belts are not tensioned, hence the need to change them religiously [go for the shiver instead :-) ]

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[Voltaire]

I may be wrong but I heard that duc's belts are not tensioned, hence the need to change them religiously [go for the shiver instead :-) ]

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Yes you are wrong.
They need changing as they are a belt not a gear or a chain or a bevel drive.
The tensioner needs to be set up using a belt deflection meter ( tech version of pressing your thumb on it)
or the 1/2 a turn method, or the 5mm allen key feeler guage type method.
I'm looking at the Guitar Tuner app method next as its about 100HZ.
I lurned 2 do the 2 valvers off youtube....plus the manual.

In hindsight owning a 4 valve head liquid cooled 117 HP machine was probably not one of my greatest decisions.
If I was buying a Monster I'd go for a 900 air cooled one, unless you really 'need' more power than that.

[Marmoot]

When I had my 848, it was serviced at Haldanes.
"Small" service (every 12k) is around $750-$1000, and big service (engine must come off the bike, every 24k) is around twice that.
Sounds about right, unfortunately.
It is likely to be less than $1000, but always budget for the worst case scenario.
Such is part of owning such a beauty.

Japanese bikes cost half that to service, or less.

[Madness]

Buy a Jap IL4; Oil, Filter, Ride.

[sharp2183]

Aden from Restorace is worth calling. He is qualified and offers very high quality work at pretty competitive prices.

[pritch]

Ducati used to insist on new belts every two years, regardless of whether the bike was used or not. Some newer bikes are different I believe.

Seriously, you would not want a belt to fail. That is why the UK bike mags advise that if you buy a Ducati, you buy one with a full service history. If a belt fails you are up for a bill that would make that $1000 look like a down payment.

I had a 996 engine in my Monster, the 916 and 996 had a reputation for the chrome wearing off the cam followers occasionally. All sorts of random theories as to why and how to avoid it, but...

In the event the problem strikes the fix is to replace the cam followers, IIRC they are only about $100 each - but there are sixteen of them. I dreaded the shop telling me they had found chrome flakes in the oil.

Talk about "the passion". :whistle:

[SMOKEU]

"Small" service (every 12k) is around $750-$1000, and big service (engine must come off the bike, every 24k) is around twice that.


Why does the engine have to come out?

[The Reibz]

Buy a Jap IL4; Oil, Filter, Ride.
Truer words have never been spoken.

Safe to say this thread has put me off owning anything Italian

[Voltaire]

Truer words have never been spoken.

Safe to say this thread has put me off owning anything Italian

" Oh but the sound"....spose I could download an MP3 of a Ducati and just buy a Honda :innocent:

[yevjenko]

Yes you are wrong.
They need changing as they are a belt not a gear or a chain or a bevel drive.

Cool. Glad to be wrong this time :-)

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[yevjenko]

" Oh but the sound"....spose I could download an MP3 of a Ducati and just buy a Honda :innocent:

Or buy an Aprilia, sort the charging issues and you're sweet

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[pritch]

" Oh but the sound"....spose I could download an MP3 of a Ducati and just buy a Honda :innocent:

Buy an SP1, best of both worlds.

[NNN]

Bought a 696 finally.. just couldn't get myself to like gladius.. was getting hard to service Shiver. . Did call a few guys..
Btw motorcycle dr said it will be around 350 for 12000 service..n they will replace the belts as well if I buy them

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[Voltaire]

Ah... air cooled 2 valver, that makes life easier.
I was going to do a service on my ST4 over the winter and get my belts from http://ca-cycleworks.com/products/maintenance/timing-belts/tb696

Have fun.

[NNN]

Thanks for the link Voltaire. .

Btw still waiting for the bike to be delivered.. bought it from mid.co.nz in chch.

[Marmoot]

Why does the engine have to come out?

For 848, it is because the trellis frame is right next to the belts, and because the cylinder heads are covered by stuff (to adjust valve clearance).
Either unbolt the engine and drop it off the bike, or remove airbox etc to access top cylinder head and radiator etc to access the front cylinder head.
Unbolting the engine is easier and quicker, but still time consuming nevertheless due to wiring loom etc.
With hourly rate of above $100 nowadays being charged by the dealers, it amounts to a lot rather quickly. Plus, parts, sundries, and more importantly GST.
Normally a whole day job, so that is at least $800+GST just for the labour, add $100 for oil+filter, and whatever-what-not.

There is a lot of DIY guide on ducati forums if you are mechanically adept. It is not hard, but I guess some probably are best not to be risked (belt is one).

It is not that bad if you come to it with proper expectation.
But yeah a bit more expensive than jap bikes.
Great handling though, those Ducatis. Once you get how to ride them, normally you'd get hooked (until a large repair bill comes, then you'd be cursing the day you were born and swear not to buy another one again).



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[Drew]

There are transfer stations all over Aukland. Take it to anyone of them...and walk home.

[yevjenko]

Bought a 696 finally.. just couldn't get myself to like gladius.. was getting hard to service Shiver. . Did call a few guys..
Btw motorcycle dr said it will be around 350 for 12000 service..n they will replace the belts as well if I buy them

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Congrats dude. Enjoy the bike when it arrives

[NNN]

Cheers. ..
Has anyone used mcycle doctor

[Madness]

Cheers. ..
Has anyone used mcycle doctor

Use the search function up there, to the left but don't abbreviate (lazy cunt). There's heaps of feedback about George on here & I'm yet to see any negative comments.

[NNN]

ohh did not realise we have Pilkunnussija in here..

[Madness]

ohh did not realise we have Pilkunnussija in here..

There's all sorts of niggers on here dude. Do a search on BDOTGNZA while you're at it, quite a bit of reading though so it might be best to save that for when your Duc' breaks down.

[Voltaire]

If you want actual Ducati information thats useful I'd suggest http://www.ducati.ms/.
Save this forum for asking about waving, whinging, shopping, that sort of thing.:yawn:

[SMOKEU]

For 848, it is because the trellis frame is right next to the belts, and because the cylinder heads are covered by stuff (to adjust valve clearance).
Either unbolt the engine and drop it off the bike, or remove airbox etc to access top cylinder head and radiator etc to access the front cylinder head.
Unbolting the engine is easier and quicker, but still time consuming nevertheless due to wiring loom etc.
With hourly rate of above $100 nowadays being charged by the dealers, it amounts to a lot rather quickly. Plus, parts, sundries, and more importantly GST.
Normally a whole day job, so that is at least $800+GST just for the labour, add $100 for oil+filter, and whatever-what-not.

There is a lot of DIY guide on ducati forums if you are mechanically adept. It is not hard, but I guess some probably are best not to be risked (belt is one).

It is not that bad if you come to it with proper expectation.
But yeah a bit more expensive than jap bikes.
Great handling though, those Ducatis. Once you get how to ride them, normally you'd get hooked (until a large repair bill comes, then you'd be cursing the day you were born and swear not to buy another one again).



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Thanks for that. I'm sticking with Japanese bikes. I refuse to buy something that's so expensive to maintain, although I suppose that an Italian bike will have a "soul" that Japanese bikes don't have.

[DMNTD]

Thanks for that. I'm sticking with Japanese bikes. I refuse to buy something that's so expensive to maintain, although I suppose that an Italian bike will have a "soul" that Japanese bikes don't have.

Our RSV4 and Tuono V4 aren't overly expensive to service at all and my Diavel worked out pretty cheap too due.
The Duc Testastretta motors are noticeably cheaper to own over the earlier jobbies

[Swoop]

Or buy an Aprilia, sort the charging issues and you're sweet
Have a search of Hitcher's posts regarding owning a bike of that brand.
The support network in NZ leaves a lot to be desired.

[pritch]

Have a search of Hitcher's posts regarding owning a bike of that brand.
The support network in NZ leaves a lot to be desired.

To be fair you can't single out Aprilia in that regard; Triumph, BMW, and who knows what else are handled by the same guy.

[Voltaire]

Have a search of Hitcher's posts regarding owning a bike of that brand.
The support network in NZ leaves a lot to be desired.

Support Network :killingme

Yes modern bike ownership is a pita for parts.

[Corse1]

If you want actual Ducati information thats useful I'd suggest http://www.ducati.ms/.
Save this forum for asking about waving, whinging, shopping, that sort of thing.:yawn:

Second that on Ducati.ms
Belts 20000km or 4 years is what I do and they always come off looking in bloody good nick. Some say that the 2 years applies to the older non kevlar reinforced belts and 5 years is ok now. But I make sure the bike is ridden every month at a minimum (Only as I have more than one:rolleyes:)
Had my St4s for 8 years and no flaking rockers yet. Only the first valve check required any adjustment. Only thing to let me down in all that time is a brake light switch and a remote reservoir hose on the Ohlins shock worked loose. Only had 700kms when I bought it. And it still has the original battery.....for an 11 year old bike!

I am lucky dollar wise though as all services are completed by myself.

If the bike is running fine and there is no service history factor in a valve check and new belts when you negotiate the sell price and don't look back. Thats what I did with the 999 a couple of years ago and its been all good.

[Marmoot]

Thanks for that. I'm sticking with Japanese bikes. I refuse to buy something that's so expensive to maintain, although I suppose that an Italian bike will have a "soul" that Japanese bikes don't have.

Wise decision.
Not so much "soul" as it is handling. The way they go through fast sweepers gracefully is just feckin brilliant.
Can be quite a handful in slow corners and on the bumpy roads in general. Ah, I digressed...
And you have to admit, Ducatis are just pretty :)


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[Drew]

Wise decision.
Not so much "soul" as it is handling. The way they go through fast sweepers gracefully is just feckin brilliant.
Can be quite a handful in slow corners and on the bumpy roads in general. Ah, I digressed...
And you have to admit, Ducatis are just pretty :)


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkOh yeah, pretty bikes are worth up to 50% more than functional ones.

[Voltaire]

So about 3 useful posts out of 36, not bad of Keyboard Biker :killingme

[Marmoot]

Oh yeah, pretty bikes are worth up to 50% more than functional ones.

I guess one would just buy one that one wants. Some things and some people sometimes don't need economic justification.

For instance, why race in NZ? The prize money is not even worth the cost.


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[swarfie]

For instance, why race in NZ? The prize money is not even worth the cost.



prizemoney....PRIZEMONEY... Hahahahaha, we'll tell the jokes...who frick pays prizemoney? Even the street meet organizers keep the prizemoney :Oi: :weird::doh:

[nodrog]

prizemoney....PRIZEMONEY... Hahahahaha, we'll tell the jokes...who frick pays prizemoney? Even the street meet organizers keep the prizemoney :Oi: :weird::doh:

Careful Nev, you might have your MNZ license cancelled for such an outburts.