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Stylo
10th April 2014, 18:18
Up to 40,00 Toyota's to be recalled in NZ following minor faults identified overseas and , this a global recall and not the first from Toyota, here we go, yet again.

Hmmm. That's a lot of cars .

Don't recall another manufacturer of vehicles having so many problems , wondering if there isn't other faults they haven't gone public with.

I thought Toyota was supposedly the benchmark of reliability ??

JimO
10th April 2014, 18:25
at least they are fixing the faults, the spiral cable or clockspring has been a problem in hiluxes for years, it breaks and you have no airbags or horn

Ocean1
10th April 2014, 18:38
Up to 40,00 Toyota's to be recalled in NZ following minor faults identified overseas and , this a global recall and not the first from Toyota, here we go, yet again.

Hmmm. That's a lot of cars .

Don't recall another manufacturer of vehicles having so many problems , wondering if there isn't other faults they haven't gone public with.

I thought Toyota was supposedly the benchmark of reliability ??

They are, but they're not infallible.

And consider, the qualifying benchmark for "fault" is considerably lower now than ever before, soon manufacturers will be held responsible for their clients driving...

awa355
10th April 2014, 18:55
They are, but they're not infallible.

And consider, the qualifying benchmark for "fault" is considerably lower now than ever before, soon manufacturers will be held responsible for their clients driving...


Already been tried, eg the young man in Aussie years ago that tried to sue Yamaha for allowing him to buy a bike ( RZ350 LC ) that was going to tempt him to exceed his ability. This, after he smashed himself up. :brick:

R650R
10th April 2014, 19:02
At least they are being upfront about it. These days its probably more of a check it at next service than full on recall and don't drive etc... wonder how much new service work they pick up from all those customers who don't normally visit the Toyota dealership hmmmmmmm...

Better than Suzuki and their dodgy plastic fuel pump pipes inside GSXR and TL1000 tanks. Mine broke when I tried to leave work one night after a very long day, was not impressed when I found out they knew of the issue but because it doesn't happen to a lot of bikes they keep quiet and just fix the ones that break for free... Had to pay for towie into Colemans next day to get it done though...
Bike had done about 30000km and already had the fuel tank seal recall done.
Felt sorry for the poor towie though, big workplace and not everyone knew about the breakdown. When he came next day and started putting it on truck a few of the gorilla sized forkies ran out in jake the muss mode thinking he was stealing it, luckily someone else intervened with right info...

pzkpfw
10th April 2014, 19:02
It's a bunch of different models being recalled, for different, fairly minor, issues in each.

On one of them, aparently some spring can break if you adjust the seat "too often".

Meh.

Oakie
10th April 2014, 19:21
Don't recall another manufacturer of vehicles having so many problems
Because no other manufacturer has so many vehicles!


I thought Toyota was supposedly the benchmark of reliability ?? You are correct. They are. They are also not perfect. (Yes ... we've owned only Toyotas for the last 12 years ... first for 9 years and just about ticked over three years with the second.)

Akzle
10th April 2014, 19:27
Don't recall another manufacturer of vehicles having so many problems


I thought Toyota was supposedly the benchmark of reliability ??

1) which manufacturers ship the same numbers as toyota?

2) yeah. Up till the 90s.

tigertim20
10th April 2014, 19:33
don't kid yourself. vehicle recalls from all manufacturers are quite common!

Murray
10th April 2014, 19:36
Somebody's got to say it!!! BUGGER

Stylo
10th April 2014, 19:38
It's a bunch of different models being recalled, for different, fairly minor, issues in each.

On one of them, aparently some spring can break if you adjust the seat "too often".

Meh.

Seems it's always Toyota having another recall, regardless of the severity of the issue, broken spring whatever..

Another recall ? Toyota ...yet again, what a surprise.

Mazda, Subaru, Honda, Nissan, even Mitsubishi, the bottom feeders of the group, don't have the problems that Toyota have and no re-calls that I can remember from recent memory at least not in the frequency that Toyota seem to have experienced..

Motu
10th April 2014, 20:03
I thought Toyota was supposedly the benchmark of reliability ??

I don't know where this myth of Toyota reliability comes from....the media? After 44 years of fixing cars for a living, I've never noticed Toyota staying away from any workshop I've worked in...my job has probably depended on Toyota to some extent.

Voltaire
10th April 2014, 20:09
I don't know where this myth of Toyota reliability comes from....the media? After 44 years of fixing cars for a living, I've never noticed Toyota staying away from any workshop I've worked in...my job has probably depended on Toyota to some extent.

Must have some good Austin Allegro and Marina stories bro.:lol:

AllanB
10th April 2014, 20:10
Toyotas have been loved over other equivalent brands in NZ four years and resale of used ones reflects this. No idea why - maybe just volume.


News this morn said there were a number of recalls (5 I think) over many cars - common parts shared by different vehicles thus the volume.


Better than a cracked Suzuki swing-arm.

pete376403
10th April 2014, 20:14
The Toyota problems are pretty insignificant compared to GM knowing their cars ignition switches were faulty for 10 years or more, but some beancounter decided the cost of recall/repair was more than paying out a few lawsuits over fatal accidents.

(engines were apparently turning off, so suddenly no power steering and no power brakes. Throw a less than competent driver into the mix and bang, instant crash)

Motu
10th April 2014, 21:22
Must have some good Austin Allegro and Marina stories bro.:lol:

With a very small stroke of a black felt tip pen in the rear badge of and Allegro, you can turn the A into an R. You need to back it into the car park so the customer doesn't see the boot lid first.

Ocean1
10th April 2014, 21:30
I don't know where this myth of Toyota reliability comes from....the media? After 44 years of fixing cars for a living, I've never noticed Toyota staying away from any workshop I've worked in...my job has probably depended on Toyota to some extent.

Which conflicts with observations from my local. They reckon they see slightly fewer Toyotas in spite of their numerical predominance in the national fleet. A reliability more or less directly in line with the premium prices they command, they said.

You can't fool all of the people for very long at all when it comes to the value of reliable transport.

They did point out that there's a fairly wide spread in reliability even across Toyota models, though.

Logpot
10th April 2014, 21:31
My Triton has had to have a clockspring and entire steering column replaced, neither under warranty or recall.:mad:

And our Commodore has had numerous recalls to fix "potential" faults.

imdying
11th April 2014, 09:02
Mazda, Subaru, Honda, Nissan, even Mitsubishi, the bottom feeders of the group, don't have the problems that Toyota have and no re-calls that I can remember from recent memory at least not in the frequency that Toyota seem to have experienced..They have the same problems, they just don't give as much of a crap about their reputation and don't issue recalls.

TheDemonLord
11th April 2014, 09:09
My Missus Swears by Toymotas - and I have to say, they are pretty reliable - The engines are quite bulletproof, I have had less problems with the Toymotas that we have owned than with other cars. The problems we have had, have all been reasonably minor as well (like replacing worn brake pads)

Banditbandit
11th April 2014, 09:17
I don't know where this myth of Toyota reliability comes from....the media? After 44 years of fixing cars for a living, I've never noticed Toyota staying away from any workshop I've worked in...my job has probably depended on Toyota to some extent.

I'm sure you will remember Top gear's Hilux - the one they tried to kill and could not ...

http://www.topgear.com/au/assets/cms/5fb93d9e-f17d-46ed-979a-045ad06fcc0a/670x377Image.jpg?p=091009_03:45

Ribit
11th April 2014, 09:28
According to the 'dog and lemon guide' writer, hondas are the most reliable cars these days.
The bikes have a pretty good rep too....

devo
11th April 2014, 09:59
According to the 'dog and lemon guide' writer, hondas are the most reliable cars these days.
The bikes have a pretty good rep too....

but fortunately not everyone is gay.

Tazz
11th April 2014, 11:32
Seems it's always Toyota having another recall, regardless of the severity of the issue, broken spring whatever..

Another recall ? Toyota ...yet again, what a surprise.

Mazda, Subaru, Honda, Nissan, even Mitsubishi, the bottom feeders of the group, don't have the problems that Toyota have and no re-calls that I can remember from recent memory at least not in the frequency that Toyota seem to have experienced..

Without even putting much thought into it (bit dangerous) have a look at what they are fixing and then Google the Nissan ZD30 (aka hand grenade), which has never been recalled and I bet is a massive problem compared to whatever is being sorted at the minute.

Best Regards,

A non Toyota driver.

Didn't the new head of GM just do a recall on something they have been sweeping under the carpet for a number of years (that possibly killed a few people?).