1000cc bikes on tardme

[mike1991]

why is it that most of the newer liter bikes 2008+ for 10g have been dropped. seen i few that i like but get into the texts/phone calls and then you get the its been dropped by the owner before me shit.. maybe im looking in the wrong place but geez is annoying..

[Pound]

Probably the reason they are selling them?
Can't handle the power I suppose......

[mike1991]

possible at-least put it in the add so i don't have to waste my time asking.. lol

[Trade_nancy]

Fair percentage of bikes are dropped. Many in parks, garages etc. Not to do with power necessarily - just an accidental fall over. Been there. Dropped my first in 1972 on wet tarseal in town while pulling over to stop....front and rear went left real quick into the gutter with the sea of moving seal. Next drop in 2013...bike not even under power...fell over.

[Gremlin]

Bikes fall over, just the way it is. Try looking at a car falling over...

What's the issue? If there are marks on it, then it's a price discount, otherwise, it's been repaired. Hell, you'd probably drop it at some point...

[nodrog]

..... its been dropped by the owner before me shit.......

Its never the current owner.


Unless their name is DMNTD

[mike1991]

Bikes fall over, just the way it is. Try looking at a car falling over...

What's the issue? If there are marks on it, then it's a price discount, otherwise, it's been repaired. Hell, you'd probably drop it at some point...

maybe but they hardly move on price at all.. maybe i was expecting to much for getting a bike that has not been dropped for 10g meh would be nice to know in the actual auction though..

[haydes55]

So many people are called "by the previous owner".

Too much shame to admit they aren't infallible?

[Trade_nancy]

maybe but they hardly move on price at all.. maybe i was expecting to much for getting a bike that has not been dropped for 10g meh would be nice to know in the actual auction though..

Yeh - letting people know would be nice - but only for those that mind about such things a lot. From the other perspective - in my case anyhow - I have a new stock RH fairing, foot peg, bar end and lever. Better than it was before the tip - when the fairing had some stone chips and the peg had rubber worn down to the metal. Maybe I'd ask MORE? It's now newer! If a bike is repaired - plastic welding on fairings etc - I'd be cautious. My 1st 1L bike had that. Repaint on the fairings and broken fastener tabs were welded somehow. A bit of a let down inside. Tabs started to break off a year later. If repair is new parts and not visible - why worry?

[AllanB]

Most bikes in CHCH fell over in 2010 and/or 2011 ......................

If I drink enough I fall over - does that reduce my value?

[Drew]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-715500019.htm

One of the best all rounders ever made right there. You'd prolly get it for $5500-$6500, and never feel like you needed more of anything.

[mike1991]

hmm thanks for the insight maybe im just being to picky for my own good..trying to few a bike of tardme if all goes well i might come out with a new bike.

[tigertim20]

I agree with you that it would be nice to have that in the auction / advertising, its a bit annoying and you wonder what else has been ommitted . . .

Having said that, I dont understand why everyone shudders and draws away in fright when they hear a bike has been 'dropped'.
dropping a bike might be as little as dropping it while stationary in a car park, and bending a brake or clutch lever.
Its one thing if its been cartwheeled off a race track at full noise, but for the most part, its no different that an otherwise good car with a scratch on the door from a runaway shopping trolley at the supermarket, or a broken front indicator from the fence you nudged . . .

and yeah, it was always the 'previous owner'. Got told that once, but the seller didnt realise I knew the previous owner, and knew what condition the bike was sold to HIM in,
went a bit red when I told him that.

[Murray]

why is it that most of the newer liter bikes 2008+ for 10g have been dropped. seen i few that i like but get into the texts/phone calls and then you get the its been dropped by the owner before me shit.. maybe im looking in the wrong place but geez is annoying..

How long you been riding???

Everyone at sometime drops a bike, slip on ice putting foot down, gravel, earthquake, petrol station oil, side stand not down, parking on a slope. Depends on what you mean by being dropped??
Most of these mean nothing, I would be more worried about the engine and how thats been treated

[AllanB]

Mint example of the classic superbike - one careful owner, full service record. Many tasteful modifications. Be quick.

[Erelyes]

Mint example of the classic superbike - one careful owner, full service record. Many tasteful modifications. Be quick.

It not be quick any more!

[thehollowmen]

Maybe small bikes aren't heavy enough to do much damage?

My ex's scooter and my GN dropped several times, we picked them back up and they were fine.

My bandit has been knocked down three times by taxi drivers, just given enough of a bump to fall over, and it looks terrible. Taxi drivers won't admit fault either.

[caspernz]

why is it that most of the newer liter bikes 2008+ for 10g have been dropped. seen i few that i like but get into the texts/phone calls and then you get the its been dropped by the owner before me shit.. maybe im looking in the wrong place but geez is annoying..

Meh, the easy solution is just buy a new bike. That way you know the history...:niceone:

[mike1991]

Meh, the easy solution is just buy a new bike. That way you know the history...:niceone:

Hm if I had the dosh to spend on a brand new one I would not be looking on tradme...maybe sellers should put it in the add instead of hoping someone Wil buy it without asking..

[EJK]

Mint example of the classic superbike - one careful owner, full service record. Many tasteful modifications. Be quick.

Swap with a '94 Daihatsu good runner plus cash my way?

[Corse1]

I have dropped My St4s 3 times. Once from a stall while turning:facepalm:, once by putting my foot down on mud, once by stupid garage manoeuvre. Last one would have been 4 years ago. Its still what I would class as a mint condition bike, you would never know and doesn't matter as its not going to be sold in a hurry. The 999 was dropped by the first owner low speed low side. You would never tell.

Most bikes have been dropped as others have said. I would be concerned with bent frames or triples. How do they track when you take your hands off the bars. That's a good test.

[FJRider]

why is it that most of the newer liter bikes 2008+ for 10g have been dropped. seen i few that i like but get into the texts/phone calls and then you get the its been dropped by the owner before me shit.. maybe im looking in the wrong place but geez is annoying..

I've noticed very few car sales advertisements for cars (2008+ or not) that list previous collision / engine repairs ... why would it be more important with motorbikes ... ??? :scratch:

[DMNTD]

Its never the current owner.


Unless their name is DMNTD

lol....it's been 5 years, let it go bro! :bleh:

[Gremlin]

lol....it's been 5 years,
And probably 100 bikes :msn-wink:

[DMNTD]

And probably 100 bikes :msn-wink:

I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate!

[Big Dog]

Hm if I had the dosh to spend on a brand new one I would not be looking on tradme...maybe sellers should put it in the add instead of hoping someone Wil buy it without asking..

I stated that my bike had marks consistent with age but waited until they made contact to explain it had been dropped from stationary. Seeing it in person or fully explained it was not likely to lose sale, but getting a sale is all about getting that first contact.

I also did not paint over the scratches so people could see it was genuine and make up their own minds re cover up or leave it alone.

When buying, I don't care if nothing is said before I get there about a couple of scrapes but some of the shit on trade me with awesome pics is rediculous.


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[Drew]

Most bikes have been dropped as others have said. I would be concerned with bent frames or triples. How do they track when you take your hands off the bars. That's a good test.Sooo, you've ridden a bent bike and found it to be a problem this way?

I've currently got a little GL145, that is proper fucken bent. The front axle to swingarm pivot measurement is about 20mm too short, and the wheel sits off to the right a bit.

Take my hands off the bars all the time no worries. About the only thing I've ever noticed by taking my hands of the bars, is rooted or too tight steering head bearings.

Bent triple clamps, are usually accompanied by snapped forks. Though there are exceptions to that so not a hard and fast rule.

[Corse1]

Sooo, you've ridden a bent bike and found it to be a problem this way?

I've currently got a little GL145, that is proper fucken bent. The front axle to swingarm pivot measurement is about 20mm too short, and the wheel sits off to the right a bit.



Yes I have. It was a bike I bought. Also a friends bike he bought. One case had bent lower triple. The other had frame damage by the steering head.

Hey it's only a GL 145! If you know a bike has been dropped and it doesn't track straight it's cause for concern. All I'm saying.

[Banditbandit]

why is it that most of the newer liter bikes 2008+ for 10g have been dropped. seen i few that i like but get into the texts/phone calls and then you get the its been dropped by the owner before me shit.. maybe im looking in the wrong place but geez is annoying..

So ??? What ??? You've never fallen off ???

[imdying]

why is it that most of the newer liter bikes 2008+ for 10g have been dropped. seen i few that i like but get into the texts/phone calls and then you get the its been dropped by the owner before me shit.. maybe im looking in the wrong place but geez is annoying..Mine is a one owner 2009, and yup it has been dropped. I don't control earthquakes, what ya want me to do.... insurance replaced everything scratched (it only fell against my tool chests), but I still can't sell it as having never been dropped.

Just do what I do, buy them new. If you're too cheap for that, then it's just tough luck.

[caspernz]

Just to change the angle a little on this topic...I'd be more concerned about buying a bike that looks mint, when in effect it's been cobbled together after a prang, with bits bought on E-bay and from wreckers, to come up looking mint...:nono:

[Mike.Gayner]

maybe sellers should put it in the add instead of hoping someone Wil buy it without asking..

This is what pisses me off - what do they think, that you're just going to show up to pick up your bike and not care about the cracked fairings and scraped engine covers? You shouldn't have to ask about something as straight-forward as fall damage.

[sharp2183]

I've only ever owned 1 bike that hasn't been dropped. All have been great. I agree with some here who say the first instance of contact is essential. Being negative about the bike isn't going to help. Ok, if a bike is damaged then always be honest, but some people put this on their auctions:

'CBSXR6 FOR SALE. Good bike, goes real well. Lots of scratches and a dent on the tank. I could repair it but it's never been an issue to me. Test rides ok but if you drop it you buy it.'

That's honest, true, but what a terrible way to advertise a bike. It may actually be a fantastic bike that needs hardly any attention, but about 90% of potential buyers instantly look away. I've bought heaps of bikes and cars advertised like this. All of them have been really good deals funnily enough, because I was the first/only to look!

So I'm ok with sellers not giving me the bikes cosmetic condition in essay form, as long as I ask the right questions when I go and look at it!

[Drew]

Just to change the angle a little on this topic...I'd be more concerned about buying a bike that looks mint, when in effect it's been cobbled together after a prang, with bits bought on E-bay and from wreckers, to come up looking mint...:nono:If it's been an insurance write off, the reg status will reflect. If not, as long as the bikes not dangerous, who cares?

A mint bike is a mint bike, a mint 'looking' bike is just that too. So long as someone doesn't misrepresent anything, it's all good 'n da hood.

[mike1991]

maybe im being picky and yes i have fallen off but if i sold it i made sure it was put in the add with photos..
not forgetting about putting it in the add and only taking good photos of one side of the bike then a far away for the other side. just seen a bike i was keen on was talking with the guy said it was dropped low speed fairings was fixed by him did a check on it and turns out the insurances company rid it off because of the crash so sounds to me more then a "drop"

it aint hard to be truthful about something but maybe that's just me?




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[sharp2183]

maybe im being picky and yes i have fallen off but if i sold it i made sure it was put in the add with photos..
not forgetting about putting it in the add and only taking good photos of one side of the bike then a far away for the other side. just seen a bike i was keen on was talking with the guy said it was dropped low speed fairings was fixed by him did a check on it and turns out the insurances company rid it off because of the crash so sounds to me more then a "drop"

it aint hard to be truthful about something but maybe that's just me?




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Nah that's fair, deliberately only taking pictures of 1 side of the bike is pretty bad.

[tigertim20]

Just to change the angle a little on this topic...I'd be more concerned about buying a bike that looks mint, when in effect it's been cobbled together after a prang, with bits bought on E-bay and from wreckers, to come up looking mint...:nono:

unless the seller is dishonest, or lies by omission, whats the problem? It may well actually BE mint if its been repaired properly.
I sold such a bike a while back - description in the ad went something like - has been damaged, and repaired to a high standard . . .
I supplied copies of the revin paperwork, the engineers report and receipts for everything purchased to repair it.
Never heard a single complaint from the bloke that bought it.

[imdying]

I dunno man. I can see your point, but you're in that segment of the market. Trademe, ads in the paper, whatever, they're just a precursor to actually inspecting a bike. You don't buy anything with wheels without checking it out. I think if you assume everyone selling you a bike is a cunt, and act accordingly, you're more likely to stay happy. They've all been dropped because even though they're lightweight, they're still a big two wheeled 1xxhp toy and shit happens.

[Erelyes]

You don't buy anything with wheels without checking it out.

I dunno about that. I bought my 07 Ninja off trademe from Invers, had never seen it, paid half, had it delivered, paid the other half on delivery.

It was described perfectly (had sat for a while, but in generally good condition / low miles), I knew exactly what I was getting and that's what I got. At a fair price.

Maybe it's different dealing with a $10k bike. Maybe even more so when buying a 'mint' $15k bike for $10k.

I dunno, I tend to find it fairly easy to work out when a seller is genuine and when they're full of shit though. "Goez mint heeps of spears" immediately makes me suspicious.

[rustyblade]

I've dropped and crashed a fair few in my time.
Older bikes held up infinitely better, fairing was thicker and the paint was liberally applied -

CBR600RR lowslide on ice: $700+ worth of fairing damage as it's paper thin + brake lever + wingmirror + indicators - $1000+
VFR800FI lowslide on ice: new brake lever, touch up paint, slight scuff on wingmirror. ~$40

you'd never tell.

If there's a bike out there that's been ridden, it's probably been dropped, hell when a motogp rider goes down they don't care as long as the bike goes straight.
Blade had a little drop from the Japanese person who owned it before me, I'm terrified of dropping her but when/if I do - it's probably no biggie. Me being 60kg picking up 185+kg is more of a concern.

[rustyblade]

I dunno, I tend to find it fairly easy to work out when a seller is genuine and when they're full of shit though. "Goez mint heeps of spears" immediately makes me suspicious.

"go for a test ride, but I'll need cash in hand" says infinitely more than service history.

[imdying]

I dunno about that. I bought my 07 Ninja off trademe from Invers, had never seen it, paid half, had it delivered, paid the other half on delivery.Just because you're a dumbarse and were fortunate enough to get away with it, does not make it good practice. Worst, you're foolish enough to think you can spot when you're being sold down the river.

[Erelyes]

Just because you're a dumbarse and were fortunate enough to get away with it, does not make it good practice.

Yeah, probably. However, buying a bike unseen does not always mean you get a lemon; and sometimes if the price is right (mine was a $1 res auction) the extra risk is worth it.


Worst, you're foolish enough to think you can spot when you're being sold down the river.

Not saying I'm infallible, and I sure have been made a fool before (heavy duty clutch my ass :mad:). But after buying 20 odd vehicles you get a bit better at it.

Once I went to view a car specifically cos I could tell something was off, and I wanted to see how full of shit they were. Long story short, the car had a botched repair to the front end, the VIN didn't match the rego plate which didn't match the licence sticker... :laugh:

[Big Dog]

Yeah, probably. However, buying a bike unseen does not always mean you get a lemon; and sometimes if the price is right (mine was a $1 res auction) the extra risk is worth it.



Not saying I'm infallible, and I sure have been made a fool before (heavy duty clutch my ass :mad:). But after buying 20 odd vehicles you get a bit better at it.

Once I went to view a car specifically cos I could tell something was off, and I wanted to see how full of shit they were. Long story short, the car had a botched repair to the front end, the VIN didn't match the rego plate which didn't match the licence sticker... :laugh:

So stolen then?
I hope you dobbed the bar stools in. Only a few lower forms of life than vehicle thieves.


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