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Big Dog
14th April 2014, 23:55
So, I know I need to replace it but is there a way to unseize a throttle cable? I just need to test a CDI for someone else on here and I have no money to replace the cable just now.
It will be replaced before I rebuild the engine.


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Rhys
15th April 2014, 00:22
Have you tried WD40 or CRC

Brian d marge
15th April 2014, 01:07
If its nylon coated then it may have swollen and the answer is no

If wd 40 or penetrating oil make a funnel plasticine and let drip /soak over night untill it runs out other end

Or the easiest way buy some inner cable and ends from a bicycle shop ( or make some out of a bolt ) and replace the inner

probably cheaper than the wd40 and quicker to

Stephen

Big Dog
15th April 2014, 01:16
I have tried crc, and applying heat figuring it may be the yamalube stuff that seems to crystallise if I unused for a while. That has freed the top segment but alas the bottom segment is going no where.


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Mongolian
15th April 2014, 04:47
Do you have one of these at all http://www.scootertherapy.com/clube3.JPG they work a treat at forcing the lube down there.

If your in town at some stage give me a buzz and ill lend you mine if needed.

unstuck
15th April 2014, 06:17
Do you have one of these at all http://www.scootertherapy.com/clube3.JPG they work a treat at forcing the lube down there.

If your in town at some stage give me a buzz and ill lend you mine if needed.

Those things are the shizz, only about $10 too.:niceone:

Mongolian
15th April 2014, 06:30
Those things are the shizz, only about $10 too.:niceone:

Yep they work real well especially if you use the specific cable lube spray, it stays in the cable for ages and keeps it good and smooth.

Think i got mine at cycletreads or something

skippa1
15th April 2014, 06:57
So, I know I need to replace it but is there a way to unseize a throttle cable? I just need to test a CDI for someone else on here and I have no money to replace the cable just now.
It will be replaced before I rebuild the engine.


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Ha......that happened to me about 1981 on an Yamaha TS 650 going down Newton gully. Caused a policeman to pull me over and issue a ticket for 80 in a 50 and wrong class of licence.:weep:
he couldn't get the throttle to stick on the side of the road so didn't believe me:baby:

Big Dog
15th April 2014, 11:56
Do you have one of these at all http://www.scootertherapy.com/clube3.JPG they work a treat at forcing the lube down there.

If your in town at some stage give me a buzz and ill lend you mine if needed.

Yes, I have one and tried putting more cable lube down. :weep:
I suspect the old cable lube. The last throttle cable froze after sitting for 8 weeks while the busa was registered for the summer.
I wind if it is because I use cable lube instead of the Suzuki recommended engine oil?


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Big Dog
15th April 2014, 11:58
Having said that the action was so smooth before it seized it was incredible. Mixture of alloy throttle tube and regular cable lubing.


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iranana
15th April 2014, 12:28
You sure the cable hasn't started to fray somewhere? A while back, the throttle cable on my RG150 seized and upon cutting the cable open to have a look see, it was fraying and had turned into this horrible tangled mess.

imdying
15th April 2014, 12:34
Quite often the source of a seized cable is a single strand having let go, which then works itself inside the outer. Pulling the old inner out can be a prick, generally you need to put the inner in a vice and heave on the outer, although sometimes it becomes a crowbar job (although at that point I would discard everything and rebuild from scratch).

Regular cable lubing and dying after a mere 8 weeks without use do not compute. Shit I would expect it to still be free 2 or more years later, not seizing after 2 months.

Big Dog
15th April 2014, 13:00
Quite often the source of a seized cable is a single strand having let go, which then works itself inside the outer. Pulling the old inner out can be a prick, generally you need to put the inner in a vice and heave on the outer, although sometimes it becomes a crowbar job (although at that point I would discard everything and rebuild from scratch).

Regular cable lubing and dying after a mere 8 weeks without use do not compute. Shit I would expect it to still be free 2 or more years later, not seizing after 2 months.

So "she's dead Jim" is what you're saying?

I agree that it is odd. But then going from slick free movement to stuck while parked up seems kind of odd too.

Last time I cut the end and pulled it through with some significant force. I could not see any breaks but it definitely came through pretty easy once the first bit got moving.

When I first pulled the current one off the bike I screwed the adjuster apart. That part was initially stuck too but a bit of crc got that moving.

If I twist the cable but hold the housing the cable does not turn beyond the coupling. Not sure if that is relevant.


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imdying
15th April 2014, 13:18
Well, given it will do it's best to kill you given half a chance, yeah, it's dead.

Breaks typically only in two places; at the barrel end, and a few inches down should the inner rub on the outer. Those you can spot as when you extend the cable fully, you can see a shiny spot on the inner.

They're cheap, just order another :)

Big Dog
15th April 2014, 19:48
Well, given it will do it's best to kill you given half a chance, yeah, it's dead.

Breaks typically only in two places; at the barrel end, and a few inches down should the inner rub on the outer. Those you can spot as when you extend the cable fully, you can see a shiny spot on the inner.

They're cheap, just order another :)

I will when I do the rebuild it needs later in year. No Money for parts until I can source and pay for piston and gasket kit. I was hoping I could get it moving to test someone else's CDI.
Guess I'll have to work out how to kick start while kneeling beside the bike operating throttle manually.


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imdying
16th April 2014, 09:46
Just wind the idle on a little?

Big Dog
16th April 2014, 12:37
Up here for thinking...
I'll give that a crack.


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