Road racing makes full front page of Waikato Times

[rastus]

Well we all moan that our sort doesn't get enough coverage but today we got the whole of the front page of the Waikato Times. The heading was just about bigger than the Royal headings.

Riders to be P Tested

It is up on Stuff as well but I am not computer literate enough to work out how to link it sorry.
It has a half page photo of Lance Lowe on his bike. It's a shame and disgrace that somebody who only races once in two years can drag the sport and name of Road Racing down to this level when there are so many out there doing their best to give Road Racing a good name. The other sad part of it all was to name the rider who ran over him. Although the coroner said he was not to blame why did he have to have his name dragged into it.
Jim Tuckerman though I will give credit to as he stated that MNZ had changed the rules so that you had to do three club meetings in the past twelve months before competing at this type of event. He also said that they were involved in having riders drug tested randomly starting possibly in July.

[Oscar]

Try this:



Motorcyle racing industry introduces drug and alcohol testing

Motorcycle industry introduces drug testing
http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/9941803/Motorcyle-racing-industry-introduces-drug-and-alcohol-testing

[Oscar]

There are actually two bike related stories front and centre on the website.
The other one is about the toy run.

[scott411]

awesome, 1 person now causes a new rule to come in, that will make clubs have to do tests, which will cost money, and cause more stress to already stressed clubs workers,

[Shaun Harris]

awesome, 1 person now causes a new rule to come in, that will make clubs have to do tests, which will cost money, and cause more stress to already stressed clubs workers,




would th cost involved in this not come from the sporting tribunal and Not MNZ as such

In the past when I have been drugged tested, it had NOTHING to do with any one from the club at all apart from the introduction to the test team that came to do it, no matter what ya here I passed every single time

[Oscar]

awesome, 1 person now causes a new rule to come in, that will make clubs have to do tests, which will cost money, and cause more stress to already stressed clubs workers,

Yeah, there's only one rider in NZ on the P...

[Drew]

Random drug testing has been in the rules for a while, I've just never seen it happen.

[The Chow]

Yeah, there's only one rider in NZ on the P... I have at NZSBK Hampton Downs (2010 or 11?) At Manfeild 2011 NZSBK ? ) with no positive results and Paeroa again! (when a top rider was caught with dope in his system and lost his licence and ride I think). No room for drugs or booze in the systems of racers I'm all for Zero level , If the adrealine that racing gives you isn't a big enough buzz then get off the track .

[The Chow]

Random drug testing has been in the rules for a while, I've just never seen it happen. I have at NZSBK Hampton Downs (2010 or 11?) At Manfeild 2011 NZSBK ? ) with no positive results and Paeroa again! (when a top rider was caught with dope in his system and lost his licence and ride I think). No room for drugs or booze in the systems of racers I'm all for Zero level , If the adrealine that racing gives you isn't a big enough buzz then get off the track .

[Shaun Harris]

I have at NZSBK Hampton Downs (2010 or 11?) At Manfeild 2011 NZSBK ? ) with no positive results and Paeroa again! (when a top rider was caught with dope in his system and lost his licence and ride I think). No room for drugs or booze in the systems of racers I'm all for Zero level , If the adrealine that racing gives you isn't a big enough buzz then get off the track .




Zero level on track is exactually how it should be.

[MOTOXXX]

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about. Drug testing is a good thing.

if you have enough money to soke P AND race bikes, your probably a crim or doing something dodgy anyway.

[budda]

I have at NZSBK Hampton Downs (2010 or 11?) At Manfeild 2011 NZSBK ? ) with no positive results and Paeroa again! (when a top rider was caught with dope in his system and lost his licence and ride I think). No room for drugs or booze in the systems of racers I'm all for Zero level , If the adrealine that racing gives you isn't a big enough buzz then get off the track .

Dead right Rev/Dr/Mr Chow.

Random testing has been in place for quite a few years, and it is truly random, as in the Organisation(MNZ) doesn't timetable it.

I tried to arrange a sneak attack a coupla years back, and they don't just do it "at our request" - the testing regime is very thorough and there IS no grey with the guys doing the testing........ Exactly as it should be

The new programme about to start with MNZ is, as I understand it, supplemental ( i.e additional ) to the existing setup.

Cant come soon enough ........

[jellywrestler]

Random drug testing has been in the rules for a while, I've just never seen it happen.

it may have never happened right in front of you Drew but it has been happening at the tracks for years, fact.

[jellywrestler]

Jim Tuckerman though I will give credit to as he stated that MNZ had changed the rules so that you had to do three club meetings in the past twelve months before competing at this type of event. this has been the rule for sometime now, somehow he'd got through the system?
once agin shit reporting, traces of P, dunno anything about how long that shit stays in your system and coroner didn't state how long they thought it had been there either, might have been a factor or just muckraking.

[Billy]

this has been the rule for sometime now, somehow he'd got through the system?
once agin shit reporting, traces of P, dunno anything about how long that shit stays in your system and coroner didn't state how long they thought it had been there either, might have been a factor or just muckraking.

Actually,

Your both wrong,The old rule stated 3 entries in the logbook,But it didnt say when,I introduced the new rule last year that states "Within the past 12 months".....Your welcome.

[Billy]

I have at NZSBK Hampton Downs (2010 or 11?) At Manfeild 2011 NZSBK ? ) with no positive results and Paeroa again! (when a top rider was caught with dope in his system and lost his licence and ride I think). No room for drugs or booze in the systems of racers I'm all for Zero level , If the adrealine that racing gives you isn't a big enough buzz then get off the track .

You missed one,Ruapuna NZSBK round 2013,No positive results recorded then either.

[Shaun Harris]

You missed one,Ruapuna NZSBK round 2013,No positive results recorded then either.







so was the P user racing on a day license then at Paeroa when his suicide crash happened

[budda]

You missed one,Ruapuna NZSBK round 2013,No positive results recorded then either.

Been quite a few before that too, suppose in a back-handed way its a positive thing that we should have to reel them off on here ........ IF there'd been positive tests, it would be all over this site

[Billy]

so was the P user racing on a day license then at Paeroa when his suicide crash happened

Suicide crash?????? Who mentioned that anywhere.

That was before the new rule came in and he only required 3 entries in his logbook in total.

[Billy]

Been quite a few before that too, suppose in a back-handed way its a positive thing that we should have to reel them off on here ........ IF there'd been positive tests, it would be all over this site

Too true,

Funny how when I brought up the idea of us doing our own testing last year,I was told it would breach the agreement we had with drugfree sport NZ,I guess this will be another good idea the board came up with then???? Just like the beath analyser I suggested we get.

[Shaun Harris]

Suicide crash?????? Who mentioned that anywhere.

That was before the new rule came in and he only required 3 entries in his logbook in total.








Racing with drugs in ya system ya must have a suicide wish

[budda]

Too true,

Funny how when I brought up the idea of us doing our own testing last year,I was told it would breach the agreement we had with drugfree sport NZ,I guess this will be another good idea the board came up with then???? Just like the beath analyser I suggested we get.

Sorry mate, should have warned you I guess - your request obviously came along after mine ( pretty sure I CC'd you a copy of the outside Contractors quote at the time - if not, still got it on file ), and there was an answer ready for you ! If we all shake enough trees, all sorts of sh1t will no doubt fall out.

The IMPORTANT thing is that it is all go now, the existing one with the new MNZ system in action as well will sort out any idiots who put everyone elses lives at needless risk

[Kiwi Graham]

Too true,

Funny how when I brought up the idea of us doing our own testing last year,I was told it would breach the agreement we had with drugfree sport NZ,I guess this will be another good idea the board came up with then???? Just like the beath analyser I suggested we get.


Sorry mate, should have warned you I guess - your request obviously came along after mine ( pretty sure I CC'd you a copy of the outside Contractors quote at the time - if not, still got it on file ), and there was an answer ready for you ! If we all shake enough trees, all sorts of sh1t will no doubt fall out.

The IMPORTANT thing is that it is all go now, the existing one with the new MNZ system in action as well will sort out any idiots who put everyone elses lives at needless risk

If we are talking claiming rights here, I was way ahead of both of ya ;-)

Kits, samples, companys, results and research

[budda]

If we are talking claiming rights here, I was way ahead of both of ya ;-)



You might well be Sir - I started investigating breathalysers for the 1983 nationals ?

EDIT: To be fair, back then, I was possibly part of the problem !!!!!!!!!!!

[nodrog]

Only users lose drugs.

[Billy]

If we are talking claiming rights here, I was way ahead of both of ya ;-)

Kits, samples, companys, results and research

Haha,

Yip I'm sure your in a better postion to access that sort of info,But who at MNZ did you talk to about it,Nothing came through my inbox from you.

[scrivy]

When I started racing in '87, I was amazed by the amount of shit floating around back then. Cocaine was a favourite of a few.... I stuck to beer.

[budda]

Haha,

Yip I'm sure your in a better postion to access that sort of info,But who at MNZ did you talk to about it,Nothing came through my inbox from you.

nor mine ........

[Billy]

When I started racing in '87, I was amazed by the amount of shit floating around back then. Cocaine was a favourite of a few.... I stuck to beer.

Yip,

Certainly was a problem alot earlier than most think,I wasn't suggesting that I was the instigator of drug testing,Just relaying the reason I was given for us not doing it ourselves.

[The Chow]

When I started racing in '87, I was amazed by the amount of shit floating around back then. Cocaine was a favourite of a few.... I stuck to beer. Yep plenty of it back then , Coke , Smack , Pills , and booze you name it . Living in Christchurch then there was plenty on offer and easy to get , looking back it was crazy , I remember going to Australia in the late 1990's and at a race at Oran Park wondering why some riders where sucking on cough/flu lollies when they didn't have colds or anything , you can't buy that brand now without a prescription and signing for it.

What about these new fangled legal highs can they be traced? That shit should be completely banned , I have seen a work mate who has been fucked up severely because of that crap.

[scrivy]

What about these new fangled legal highs can they be traced? That shit should be completely banned , I have seen a work mate who has been fucked up severely because of that crap.

Did you see that young guy on Campbell live?? He was fucked!!

[Biggles08]

Haha,

Yip I'm sure your in a better postion to access that sort of info,But who at MNZ did you talk to about it,Nothing came through my inbox from you.

Pretty sure you had some correspondence from me on this subject....but I'll shut my mouth or i might lose my license :motu::innocent:

[Billy]

Pretty sure you had some correspondence from me on this subject....but I'll shut my mouth or i might lose my license :motu::innocent:

Hahahahahaha,

Say what you like mate,Yip you had your say.

[Biggles08]

If anybody has nothing to do for the next two days...here the original thread about drug testing in motorcycle racing

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/161889-Drug-testing

[jellywrestler]

I remember going to Australia in the late 1990's and at a race at Oran Park wondering why some riders where sucking on cough/flu lollies when they didn't have colds or anything , you can't buy that brand now without a prescription and signing for it.

sometimes you shouldn't ask questions Ian, my girlfriend has condoms in her handbag and doesn't even have a cock, i'm not even going to ask about that one...

[jellywrestler]

Did you see that young guy on Campbell live?? He was fucked!!

john campbell isn't that young is he?

[Kiwi Graham]

sometimes you shouldn't ask questions Ian, my girlfriend has condoms in her handbag and doesn't even have a cock, i'm not even going to ask about that one...

Don't you mean she doesn't have a cock 'now' prob just forgot to take them out bro.

[budda]

If anybody has nothing to do for the next two days...here the original thread about drug testing in motorcycle racing

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/161889-Drug-testing

Be really good if some on here thought about this word ..........

[Shaun Harris]

If anybody has nothing to do for the next two days...here the original thread about drug testing in motorcycle racing

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/161889-Drug-testing






way way to much un educated dribble in amongst all those posts to read it all Biggles. I walked into the toilet block at Manfield 2 years ago during a club meeting to smell that Chemical pot being smoked in there so I walked out and waited to see who came out, lordy lordy it was a team owner!!!!! I checked there was no else in there when he was in there

[Drew]

Racing with drugs in ya system ya must have a suicide wish

To play devil's advocate, perhaps it had been a couple days since the riders was on a bender. Thinking he was clean, he entered and rode his bike.

[Shaun Harris]

To play devil's advocate, perhaps it had been a couple days since the riders was on a bender. Thinking he was clean, he entered and rode his bike.



possibly, P is like that as in it leaves your system very quickly, that is why a lot of (for example) Oil rig workers smoke it these days.

POT I believe stays attached to your system for the longest. If you know anyone that smokes Pot ask them how they feel the next day after getting stoned only on Pot, then ask someone who got pissed/drunk the night before and how they how they feel the next day, yet the drunk will pass a breath test, go figure.

Race tracks and drugs an alcohol do NOT belong together, if you are going to use drugs get a test done by your GP to know how long it stays in your system as everyone is different so you are clean and 100% safe for all involved around you