I was looking forward to my Easter ride

[EmBe]

I'd planned to head on up to Waitotora tomorrow for a couple of nights with my brother, his wife and my 4month old niece but a little bloody nail has gone and pierced thru my tyre, and oh yay its a long weekend of public holidays, damn you murphy! :weep:

Ah well at least i've got beer and chocolate, praise jesus.

general bike related question, can bike tyres just be plugged if it's a small clean puncture? Cos it's only been on for 2 1/2 months with low wear.

Still looking forward to the ride up my first escape from welly on two wheels, next weekend now fingers crossed :wait:

actually found a second nail in there too, bloody bloody grr rant rant, don't think it's right thru though but will leave it sitting there just in case

nailed! :mad:

[awa355]

Two nails, Leave the bike untill you can get the tyre replaced.

[Gremlin]

general bike related question, can bike tyres just be plugged if it's a small clean puncture? Cos it's only been on for 2 1/2 months with low wear.
Two types of plug. The string one (sticky piece of goo) otherwise called a dog turd is supposed to be a temporary patch to get you home. I've ridden on one for a while with no drama though.

Second, the mushroom, is a proper patch applied by the bike shop. The tyre is removed and patched from the inside. This is a good repair and should last the life of the tyre. However, it can't be applied to every puncture, nor can it be applied near an existing patch. Also, some tyres handle the patches better than others. The Pilot Road 2 is known, due to it's construction, to not always be successful with a patch.

[pete376403]

Looks like a conventional spoked wheel, probably not a tubeless tyre, so plugging or not is moot.

EmBE - where in Welly are you - I've got a spare 17" tube if you're keen

[caspernz]

Mushroom patch and it's all good. As for riding this weekend, unless you wanna wash your bike and riding gear whilst riding...enjoy the chocolate and beer, that's what we're doing.

Who called me a fair weather rider?? :laugh:

[breakaway]

Been there, done that on my 2001 GSXR. The repair lasted the lifetime of the tyre http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/97456-Oh-shit!

Make sure the repair is carried out correctly with a mushroom plug, and not a 'dog turd' style fix (http://iforce.co.nz/i/34fa6c91ad481ab0c46b45e8818c99ff.JPG).

http://iforce.co.nz/i/20af061e3e6f74e9e730df64ff769416.JPG

http://iforce.co.nz/i/3jrfnvhy.jpg

[gammaguy]

If your bike is in fact a BMW F650 then it has tube type tyres,so your issue is in fact a punctured tube,not just the tyre

A qualified person should assess the tyre and check for wire or debris that could remain and pierce the new tube.

All that being well a new tube will be fitted and you are on your way.

And no,you do not patch a tube under any circumstances,it is illegal for road use in NZ anyway

[FJRider]

If your bike is in fact a BMW F650 then it has tube type tyres,so your issue is in fact a punctured tube,not just the tyre

A qualified person should assess the tyre and check for wire or debris that could remain and pierce the new tube.

All that being well a new tube will be fitted and you are on your way.

And no,you do not patch a tube under any circumstances,it is illegal for road use in NZ anyway

The trick is finding somebody open and willing to repair it ... :msn-wink:

[ellipsis]

...the only thing coming between riding and losing it is a thin line of shit sticking to the tarmac...tyres are not expensive if you think about it...

[pete376403]

If your bike is in fact a BMW F650 then it has tube type tyres,so your issue is in fact a punctured tube,not just the tyre

A qualified person should assess the tyre and check for wire or debris that could remain and pierce the new tube.

All that being well a new tube will be fitted and you are on your way.

And no,you do not patch a tube under any circumstances,it is illegal for road use in NZ anyway

I mentioned the wheel as pictured was a conventional spoked (therefore tubed) yesterday.
And, really? Illegal to patch a tube? As of when? If this is true then at least three of the four bike wheels in my shed are committing criminal acts.

[Kickaha]

And no,you do not patch a tube under any circumstances,it is illegal for road use in NZ anyway
Since when? tubes have been patched and used on the road in NZ in everything from scooters to Heavy Trucks for as far back as I can remember

Personally I always fit a new tube but I'd have no hesitation in using a patched tube if I had to

[denefoster]

Little late to the party, but I've got a spare tube (off a DRZ400, 17" 150 or so) which should do, some wrenches and a set of tire irons. Providing some beer could probably get it sorted out for you tomorrow eve if you still need a hand

[400sm]

I'd planned to head on up to Waitotora tomorrow for a couple of nights with my brother, his wife and my 4month old niece but a little bloody nail has gone and pierced thru my tyre, and oh yay its a long weekend of public holidays, damn you murphy! :weep:

Ah well at least i've got beer and chocolate, praise jesus.

general bike related question, can bike tyres just be plugged if it's a small clean puncture? Cos it's only been on for 2 1/2 months with low wear.

Still looking forward to the ride up my first escape from welly on two wheels, next weekend now fingers crossed :wait:

actually found a second nail in there too, bloody bloody grr rant rant, don't think it's right thru though but will leave it sitting there just in case

nailed! :mad:






It's a shame that a puncha stopped your weekend .

A puncture like yours is so easy to fix that every rider should at least know how to do it.

Getting the tyre off the rim will be one of the most difficult things....the other is avoiding pinching the tube on reassembly.

It seems you are thinking of a fix for a tubeless tyre.

IF it aint...
Pull the nails out, patch the tube, put back it together and go for your ride !

Sounds easy....it aint....only practice will get you there.
It's an invaluable skill that will save you one day.
Lucky you got a flat in your shed.....not in the Rainbow!

[gammaguy]

I mentioned the wheel as pictured was a conventional spoked (therefore tubed) yesterday.
And, really? Illegal to patch a tube? As of when? If this is true then at least three of the four bike wheels in my shed are committing criminal acts.

Not so fast

Quite a few motorcycles including a number of BMW have tubeless spoked wheels

And anyone who is WOF certified knows it is illegal to patch a tube in NZ for road use

[caseye]

Not so fast

Quite a few motorcycles including a number of BMW have tubeless spoked wheels

And anyone who is WOF certified knows it is illegal to patch a tube in NZ for road use

Bullshit on the tube patching.
Same thing would have to apply to patching/turding or mushrooming a tyre too then!

[pete376403]

Not so fast

Quite a few motorcycles including a number of BMW have tubeless spoked wheels

true dat- but thread is about a specifics, not generalities. The first picture of the original post showed a conventional rim with spoke nipples through the centre of the rim, ergo - tubed tyre.

And I'd still like to see a reference to the illegality of patch repairing a tube for on road use. How is a wof tester supposed to see if the tube is patched?

[gammaguy]

true dat- but thread is about a specifics, not generalities. The first picture of the original post showed a conventional rim with spoke nipples through the centre of the rim, ergo - tubed tyre.

And I'd still like to see a reference to the illegality of patch repairing a tube for on road use. How is a wof tester supposed to see if the tube is patched?

Not to mention most shops charge as much to patch a tube as they do to sell and fit a new tube,the WOF issuing authority informed me on a number of occasions not to patch a tube for road use as the liability would fall on myself if the repair failed.

Since I sold new tubes for $15 it was a no brainer really

And repairing a tube and repairing a tyre are two completely different scenarios

[pete376403]

Well that's not quite the same thing. Liability is on you if you fail to do the repair correctly. But that doesn't mean its illegal.

[EmBe]

opps, been off the nets all week so wasn't following my post. Thanks gammaguy, pete376403, denefoster for your tubed tyre observations and offers of help, if you're happy to share steps on other bike maintenance in the future i'm over in island bay and always willing to share beers. It's all sorted now, at my expense, but I have now educated myself about my tyre type and tube replacement. The 'tubeless' tyre currently fitted had me all fooled :facepalm:. Guess before it happens again (hopefully no time soon :blink:) i should get myself a spare tube to put aside and invest in some tyre levers...and build myself a workshop/garage so that everything doesn't get covered in sand when its in pieces :eek:

[EmBe]

It's a shame that a puncha stopped your weekend .

A puncture like yours is so easy to fix that every rider should at least know how to do it.

Getting the tyre off the rim will be one of the most difficult things....the other is avoiding pinching the tube on reassembly.

It seems you are thinking of a fix for a tubeless tyre.

IF it aint...
Pull the nails out, patch the tube, put back it together and go for your ride !

Sounds easy....it aint....only practice will get you there.
It's an invaluable skill that will save you one day.
Lucky you got a flat in your shed.....not in the Rainbow!

Yeah definitely is something I should've been more aware of about my bike and been able to at least attempt a fix.

Learnt up about it since, and watched a video on F650 forum of wheel removal and tube replacement so kinda know how to go about it now.

Don't wanna make a habit of sending my bike off to the shop for small fixes that every rider should be able to do!

[denefoster]

Yeah definitely is something I should've been more aware of about my bike and been able to at least attempt a fix.

Learnt up about it since, and watched a video on F650 forum of wheel removal and tube replacement so kinda know how to go about it now.

Don't wanna make a habit of sending my bike off to the shop for small fixes that every rider should be able to do!

If you haven't yet, checkout the maintenance vids from the chain gang;

http://faq.f650.com/dvd/index.htm#DiscImages

Can make you a copy if you're unable to get 'em. They're pretty easy bikes to work on (I put ~25,000kms on one when I lived on a remote island with no bike mechanics)

We're based out in Khandallah, and have a garage full o bikes and tools, if you need wrench space we can certainly spare it for an arvo

(Slight ulterior motive, my partner would love to kick a leg over an F650 to see how she likes it and can handle the weight!)